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@winstonsmith8898
@winstonsmith8898 Күн бұрын
Good review Paul, thanks.
@bubbagasm1
@bubbagasm1 2 күн бұрын
Wilford Brimley lives!
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema Күн бұрын
I'm NOT growing that mustache!
@mortenpettersen7008
@mortenpettersen7008 3 күн бұрын
Hi. What machine you`d prefer for my yard? About 300-400 m2 mixed wet and powder snow. Living by the coast in Norway. Was looking into the Cub Cadet XS3 66 SWE and the Ariens Platinum 24 SHO EFI moastly. I have a hard time to pick one. They both cost around 2460 dollars here.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 күн бұрын
I recommend the Ariens Platinum 24 SHO EFI. You have a lot different snow in Norway than we do in the U.S. That said, the people I've helped from Norway over the years tell me the Ariens snowblowers work a LOT better than the Cub Cadet and Husqvarna models. In addition, I specifically don't recommend the 3-stage Cub Cadet snowblowers.
@user-ur3np5ow5o
@user-ur3np5ow5o 22 күн бұрын
Do you live in the Midwest northeast?
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 20 күн бұрын
Lived in Chippewa Falls, WI until 4 years ago. Now live in Clinton, IA
@michaeldavis6550
@michaeldavis6550 22 күн бұрын
Ok my question is who actually makes that Toro branded engine cause it's not Toro. They don't make the engines, Their made by someone else & i would love to know who. I'm not a Briggs fan espically today with the junk plastic carburetors but I like the engine on your mower & really wanna find out more detailed information on it. Thank you for any help.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 22 күн бұрын
Toro engines are made by Loncin to Toro's specs. Loncin is one of the world's largest small engine manufactures. If you watch any video that shows any small cars, motorcycles or 3-wheelers in the Far East the engine in them is probably made by Loncin. Loncin is based in China. Toro snow and lawn engines have proven very reliable and parts are readily available through toro.com.
@michaeldavis6550
@michaeldavis6550 22 күн бұрын
@PaulSikkema To bad its from China, Maybe good but we should boycot anything from China today & going foreword, Thank you & I've never heard of loncin before.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 21 күн бұрын
Yes, some of the other brands that were having engines made in china have moved production to other countries. LCT for example, has gotten out of China and now makes the engines in Vietnam.
@danlynch7079
@danlynch7079 27 күн бұрын
Hi Paul! I have a 928 HD. Intermittent drive when turning sharp on driveway pavement. Jerky action and not sure if its auto steering issue or transmission. Any ideas?
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 25 күн бұрын
The autoturn in the Toro is not as smooth as the Ariens. (different gearing) It will have some jerking. That said, check your belt tension from the engine to the transmission. I have another video where I take the bottom cover off and you can use that as a reference to see if anything is sticking or broken. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH-0hXZ6rc2Ia5Y
@danlynch7079
@danlynch7079 22 күн бұрын
@@PaulSikkema Thank you!
@danlynch7079
@danlynch7079 21 күн бұрын
@@PaulSikkema Thank you!
@SlipperymonkeyVR
@SlipperymonkeyVR 28 күн бұрын
Great video!! Can’t wait for mine to come in.
@user-dr7uy4kj4y
@user-dr7uy4kj4y 28 күн бұрын
Fantastic review!!!! Thanks!!!!!
@danielclose7911
@danielclose7911 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for all your videos. Learning a lot.
@owenblake90
@owenblake90 Ай бұрын
Never heard the price.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 29 күн бұрын
The price constantly changes with inflation and other factors so I don't mention it. Check your local dealer, Farm & Fleet and Lowes to find current pricing.
@danielclose7911
@danielclose7911 Ай бұрын
What RPMs are you finding does the best job.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 29 күн бұрын
Full throttle. Adjust your travel speed by how far you push the steering levers.
@danielclose7911
@danielclose7911 Ай бұрын
Would like to adjust the deck height. Where can you get a service manual? The website doesn't have one listed.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 29 күн бұрын
The deck height is accurate from the factory. Use the magnetic pin to set the height - make sure both rear tires have the same pressure. The side to side tilt is adjusted using the holed plates you see on the sides of the deck.
@richardnichols2064
@richardnichols2064 Ай бұрын
If you want some nice grass its ok to water the lawn. Nice video!
@paulpatenaude3208
@paulpatenaude3208 Ай бұрын
Excellent comparison of both machines I have the husqvarna ST430T, Excellent steering system And throws the snow without clogging
@charlescroteau4768
@charlescroteau4768 Ай бұрын
Do you know how wide it make the overall width from right to left when the bagger is installed? Great video!
@hosoiarchives4858
@hosoiarchives4858 Ай бұрын
Does the bagger even work?
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema Ай бұрын
I dare you to go to my channel and watch the next video after this...
@MINAR3L_GR3Y_2V
@MINAR3L_GR3Y_2V Ай бұрын
Would you recommend this one or the ariens edge zero turn mower?
@victorpayne6586
@victorpayne6586 Ай бұрын
Subscribed.
@Wizardweirdling
@Wizardweirdling Ай бұрын
Why are there snowblower inside the house?Did they get cold?
@TheRealRobM
@TheRealRobM 2 ай бұрын
thanks for posting this. I own the 21357 model and the bagging system is terrible. I would have gone one strip of lawn at that length and it would have clogged up. it's as if the bottom part of the bag is on too much of an angle and it doesn't shoot the clippings toward the back of the bag. flawed design.
@AppleFanX2
@AppleFanX2 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review Paul! Thanks, Lindsay
@scottt3362
@scottt3362 2 ай бұрын
How’s it held up over the years?
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
It has had no issues and it still looks like new! I just changed the oil/filters in it last weekend. I installed the mulch kit one year ago and it really does a good job of mulching grass and leaves. It's being used on a 1/2 acre property near Chicago and my daughter loves it! If you install the mulch kit I suggest you get an extra set of mulching blades right away. That way you can always have a sharp set ready to use. I had a hard time finding an extra set.
@scottt3362
@scottt3362 2 ай бұрын
@@PaulSikkemathanks for the reply. I went by a dealer to look in person and the guy told me if you use it as intended, residential of small/medium (I’m on an acre) they’re great and the only issues he hears if folks attempt to use this model as commercial and wasn’t built for that. Guess I’ll grab it Friday!
@cwsosby
@cwsosby 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I'm putting this hitch on my 42" Ikon today. On sale @ Lowes for $48 this week!!
@villafane123
@villafane123 2 ай бұрын
How about the wheels? I’ve seen a couple of reviews complaining about the wheels especially the front wheels going flat many times. Thanx for a great detailed video I’ve learned a lot about your presentation and will be buying one soon.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
I've had no problems with the front tires on this IKON. I like these larger tires. The properties I mow are all old houses and two empty lots that had houses demolished on them in the last 10 years. (I've had four flat tires on my car in the last two years because of nails) I had constant flat front tires on the older IKON XD I have. I finally filled both of them with Slime tire sealant and fixed that issue.
@villafane123
@villafane123 2 ай бұрын
@@PaulSikkema Hello, and thank you for the quick response. That was the only concern I had and was leery about pulling the trigger. One thing I had noticed on the reviews is the signs of hard operator used especially for a non-commercial unit. I like yourself from what I have seen take good care of my equipment and don’t abuse it. Either way thanks so much for the education and service you provide through your detailed video, keep up the good work.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the "two guys and a mower" crews don't realize that they use a zero-turn more in one season than a homeowner does in five years - and they can't understand why the residential mower they bought is not holding up :) In addition they always HAVE to modify it and then complain it doesn't mow right... They just have to realize that to make money - you have to spend money. Buying commercial equipment actually saves them money and a lot of headaches.
@philipfrank
@philipfrank 2 ай бұрын
I am looking to upgrade my Toro 22" electric push. Grass has become very healthy this season and it has been taking me 2+ hours to mow (bagging) my 3/4 acre lawn. Will also be using a new machine to help with leaves in fall. Looking at the Ariens Ikon 42/48, Gravely ZT 42 & ZTX 48. Any suggestions on one of these machines over the others? Thanks!
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
The mowers are the same frame, etc., but the Gravely has more "features." For example, the Gravely's have serviceable transmissions and more aggressive tires. The ZTX has the most extras like spring assist for the deck, vibration foot pad and seat, tool box and so on. If you want the best value - get the Ariens. If you want the most features - get the Gravely.
@philhull29
@philhull29 2 ай бұрын
I just picked up this same mower only used it twice so far but love it
@Allan-vm1sh
@Allan-vm1sh 2 ай бұрын
Kooooooool
@pristinecarpetcleaning
@pristinecarpetcleaning 2 ай бұрын
How long does the battery last? I have an ego mower and now that it's three years old the battery doesn't last as long and replacements are almost as much as I paid for the whole mower.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
I have about 14 batteries and some of them are five years old. They have all been perfect except one 7.5 AH - it's not the oldest but it only has about 80% of it's rated capacity.
@MarkR2530
@MarkR2530 2 ай бұрын
Any videos of the power unit for comparison to the setup with nonpowered? I remember you saying you had/have both at some point.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
I do have the power unit but the standard unit works so well I have had no ambition to install the power head and try it out. Unless you mow/bag a lot of new wet grass I don't think you need the power unit. (The new deep deck and the stock blades are the key to why this works so well)
@usmcgunz1066
@usmcgunz1066 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the detailed walk through of this Ariens Ikon. Earlier this month I bought a Cub Cadet Ultima 50" from HD. After 2 uses the PTO/electric clutch stopped working. I exchanged it for another Cub Ultima. After one use on the second Cub the ignition switch on that one went out. Returned it for a refund and bought this Ariens Ikon 52 from Lowes. I just picked it up this morning and mowed my back yard as soon as I got home. Man was I impressed. Cut quality was noticeably better than the Cub. I am hoping to get many years of good service out of this mower.
@richardaquino1640
@richardaquino1640 2 ай бұрын
If you really need to Throw the snow that far add a impeller kit
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 2 ай бұрын
Why not just buy a snowblower that was designed and built right the first time? For the price and labor to install a "kit" you could move up and have the right one if you need to throw snow farther.
@MrSeneca55
@MrSeneca55 3 ай бұрын
Just bought the same machine. hopefully my bagger will be here tomorrow. like your vids. I may have to do some slight mods for mine because I built a custom hitch. front and back. but got plans thanks for the video, should make my installation go better,
@raypell7553
@raypell7553 3 ай бұрын
Nice video. Do you feel any loss of hp due to the additional drag on the pulley system, does the motor seem to lose any power? Thank you
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
Not at all. The Kawasaki has a lot more torque than I expected and it can handle the bagger or very tall grass without lugging down
@dylandurr92
@dylandurr92 3 ай бұрын
Any updates on the belt issue? I just ordered one. Supposed to be here Thursday.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
The belt issue was fixed last year and only involved a few mowers sold through Lowes
@harrybaulz666
@harrybaulz666 3 ай бұрын
So grateful for beta testers! I almost bought one of these chicom junks
@paulpatenaude3208
@paulpatenaude3208 3 ай бұрын
Awesome review, Thank you for the effort
@markd9105
@markd9105 3 ай бұрын
Yes i could hear it power up.
@jhull4981
@jhull4981 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to my neighbors I had a chance to try a Rapidtrack in January, and it was.. interesting. The thing is unstoppable, but the nature of my back injuries and their sensitivity to side forces would mean I'd have to tip toe a little until I got used to driving without trigger steering. Not a surprise that trying to muscle against the autosteer/track drive is a bad idea though. I did confirm that the lifting forces required to lock the track in the dig in position are borderline high enough to aggravate my back, so wheels may be my only option, as I'm not quite ready to go full Kraken and have it all be electric! One of my other neighbors has a new Deluxe 30 wheeled unit that he let me try around the same time; it also throws really well, although I must say my impeller modded Troy Bilt can throw almost as far as a STOCK Ariens, but the Ariens clears snow from the auger/impeller SO much faster and more efficiently. After driving both I'm actually pondering going with the Great Lakes 24" EFI for the lighter weight, as my wife and I aren't getting any younger or less broken. I don't like giving up the width, but it might be the smart play for the long term? I think net/net the ability of an Ariens to take fuller cuts without bogging down might make it sixes in terms of how long I'd be out there. Side Note: I just got back from a trip to central Wisconsin for a wedding, and managed to fit in a trip to the Ariens museum. It was charming, and I even got a picture of me in the giant snow globe. ;-> I did try to wrangle a factory tour, but they were retooling for the 24/25 models, and were under a veil of secrecy. If you are in the area it's worth going over for an hour to check it out.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
The Great Lakes 24" EFI actually has more capacity than the Deluxe 30. 73 tons per hour verses 71 for the Deluxe 30. If you get a lot of snow the narrower width will not make that much difference in how fast you get done. Yes, the Ariens museum is worth the trip. I've had many Gravely mowers/tractors and Gravely tillers over the years so it's always fun to see which ones are on display.
@jimeckenrode1271
@jimeckenrode1271 3 ай бұрын
I am impressed at how well it cut that tall grass.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
I cut two lawns this week that had not been cut yet this year and the bluegrass was 24 inches tall. It cut the grass evenly after only two passes. What impresses me the most is even moving that much grass the discharge always spreads it evenly - it never leaves clumps.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the capabilities of the machine, most people review it on perfect lawns so it's difficult to gauge if it can handle tough stuff. I did write this mower off but after seeing this video I'll have to reconsider.
@twp2600
@twp2600 3 ай бұрын
Great video, I have been looking into the Ariens Ikon. This has helped me out. Thanks
@EXEON727
@EXEON727 3 ай бұрын
It's all nice and dandy until you have to deal with battery degradation each year and replacing them which costs too much.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
I currently have Toro 60-volt batteries that are going on six years old and I have had no issues with them. Compared to the cost of fuel and engine maintenance they are a good choice for most people.
@rugmankc
@rugmankc 2 ай бұрын
Looking at this for wider cut. Have had Ego products for seven plus years and no battery issue on any of my Ego products. I think Toro will do same.
@kirkjohnson5612
@kirkjohnson5612 3 ай бұрын
How high will mower cut
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
5 inches
@user-vg7hb9mz2n
@user-vg7hb9mz2n 3 ай бұрын
When cleaning deck instructions have to set cutting height to #6. Tilt handle forward. It locks in place. Then mower can stand upright for cleaning or storage. Of course remove the battery and fuse when doing this cleaning. Pays to read the instructions so you don't damage the mower. ONCE AGAIN, you do NOT spray mower with water.
@PainterD54
@PainterD54 3 ай бұрын
They seem to be well built and will last a long time, IF you do the required maintenance and keep up with oil and gear box lubrication. My Toro is 30 some years old and works like new yet, because I do preventative maintenance on it every year.
@daflea66
@daflea66 3 ай бұрын
Nice vid, thank you. Looking at the commercial unit but this demo was very helpful
@volodymyrtkach
@volodymyrtkach 3 ай бұрын
Can I use this bagger on my 2022 Aries Ikon XD 42"?
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
No, the 2022 and older models use a different bagger
@volodymyrtkach
@volodymyrtkach 3 ай бұрын
@@PaulSikkema thank you for the answer. I'm trying to find one for my mower but found only powered model which is 1300$
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
Check with a Gravely dealer. The decks were the same on the 2022 ZT1 and ZT2 mowers as the IKON XD
@frankie7508
@frankie7508 3 ай бұрын
Paul, Did you see the youtube video by big south outdoors on this machine. He ran it for about 143 Hours and had defects all over the machine. Based on his review I would never buy this machine.
@PaulSikkema
@PaulSikkema 3 ай бұрын
I responded to his second video a while back. I'm going to repost that here for you. Let's go through a couple of points from his video. At the end I'll let you know why I know this stuff and that he has a lot yet to learn. 1. Getting grass all over the operator is not a problem with the mower or the design of the mower - it's changes that he made to the mower that caused this to happen. 2. The Ariens deck and the Ariens blades are designed to work together. You will have to watch Big Souths other video to know this but he is not using the Ariens blades. He found aftermarket blades for a Dixie chopper that were cheaper and has them installed. The problem with the the aftermarket blades is the aerodynamics of the blades is completely wrong for this deck. They are too short, too flat, cut at a different level and the sail of the blade is wrong so that they don't give the proper lift and throw to get the grass out of the discharge. The new IKON deck is much taller/deeper than other residential decks. When you are using the Ariens blades this allows the blades to lift the grass up, cut the grass evenly and the keep the clipping above the blades. The sail and the other curves in the Ariens blades then use that deep deck to get the clippings out the discharge as quickly as possible. By putting those after market blades on he screws up that aerodynamics. Because the aftermarkets are flat, they don't lift the grass as well and don't keep the grass up in the top of the deck to get rid of it out the discharge. Instead the grass clipping want to blow out the bottom of the deck - and - up over the operator platform. 3. Discharge chute and notch in the deck Leave the discharge cover down when using this mower. Ariens designed it so that it doesn't sag over time and leave windrows. With the correct blades and the cover down you will never have any problems with grass blowing up in your face. The notch on the top of the deck is there so when you install a bagger the bagger discharge boot doesn't stick out so far. It only sticks out about 4 inches instead of the 8-14 inches other manufactures baggers boot stick out. Even with the discharge cover held up - and using the proper blades that notch will not cause grass to fly up in your face. The deck really does work great with the correct blades and the discharge cover down. Watch this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGLch5ulibRml7c. I mowed tall dry grass for over two hours and had almost NO grass on the top of the deck and NONE up on the operator's platform. The correct blades are the key. 4. I learned deck and blade design from one of the industry's leading deck engineers, Gary Kunz. I have spent many hours over the last 30 years listening to him and learning how decks work. This Ariens deck uses all that information, years of Ariens/Gravely testing, and state-of-the art engineering to give you the best cut and get the grass out of the deck as quickly and cleanly as possible. If you use the correct blades and leave the safety discharge chute cover down you will never experience the "blow by" he showed you in the video. 5. The gas tank filler broke because he hit something with it. You can clearly see the scratches in the fender from a heavy branch or other unmovable object. That is an "operator error" not a defect in the machine. 6. Last - and I'm going to be blunt because I made the same mistake as he did many years ago. IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO MAKE MONEY MOWING LAWNS YOU HAVE TO BUY A COMMERCIAL MACHINE. The Ariens IKON is a residential machine - it will last you many, many years mowing your lawn. It is not designed to mow 10-20 lawns a day, it's not designed to be loaded (read banged around) on a trailer multiple times a day. In reality, he is using and abusing this mower in one season that for most homeowners it will take them 10 years to do the same damage (and that's if you have teenagers running it :) My story, in 1994 I went to my local ZTR dealer and bought two brand new ZTRs. They lasted a week before my crew broke them to the point where I had to wait 2 months for parts. What I didn't know then was the dealer only sold to residential customers. So I went to another dealer and he sold me two Gravely mowers. He told me they were a lot better than the ones we just trashed. Yes, they were, but they lasted ONE day before my crew knocked the decks completely off! I returned them. So, I then went to a third dealer. His parking lot was full of other mowing companies like me and everyone I talked to was very happy with the mowers he was selling. I went in and talked to him, he asked what I was using them for and then spent an hour showing me why the mowers I was buying were not made for what I needed to do. I ended up buying two ExMark Laser Z's that day. Both of them ran flawlessly for years because they were commercial mowers built for mowing many lawns a day and riding on trailers for thousands of miles. Over the next 5 years, I bought over a dozen commercial mowers from him and they all ran 2-3000 hours without problems. Why so many mowers? During that time I had over 325 lawns and was mowing a little over 400 acres a month. The lawns ranged from "postage stamps" to over 40 acres each. So, trust me when I say, "It's not the mower's fault he is having so many problems."
@frankie7508
@frankie7508 3 ай бұрын
@@PaulSikkema Paul I knew I could count on you for a thorough and honest response. I have 17 - 20 degree sloped hill For my backyard. When I moved into this house in 2019, I looked at all of the residential mowers And none of them were rated for slopes greater than 15 degrees. So I decided to do a detailed investigation for walk behind mowers. I then test drove The machines which I believed were high quality built with excellent operator reviews - an Exmark, Ferris and Gravely. I looked at the reliability of the machines according to owners of them, The design of the machines, and how they actually performed on High slopes. The gravely had the best center of gravity, The largest tire patch area on the ground, A deep rich history of performance excellence, The longest warranty, the best customer satisfaction ratings and lowest price. I purchased my 36" gravely pro walk in 2020. And I will never look back. The machine has performed absolutely flawlessly. And I use it for a residential application. It's most unfortunate that people are very deceptive and then trash A high quality name such is Ariens/ Gravely, Which is why I wanted to hear what you had to say. I completely concur with your Statements regarding aerodynamics and flow that decks and blades are a designed system That work together. And if you want to see my review of the 36" Gravely prowalk, Then you will see it on the Gravely website. Mike in maryland, That's me! The only thing that's plastic on my proWalk is the gas tank! It's one of the reasons why I rejected the Toros. The Ferris walk behinds were not sufficiently balanced and the front end would lift up; The manager who demonstrated the unit said.I would need a weight kit on the front; Absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. The Exmarks had control reliability problems in 2019, which they may have resolved by now. I did not like the build quality of the scaggs. The hustlers were priced too high. And gravely beat them all. It was shocking to me after using the gravely proWalk that when I went to clean under the deck there was nearly no built up grass! I was shocked at how well designed the Deck and the blades worked together to evacuate out all grass clippings. Now I don't even bother cleaning under the deck. Of course, every time I use my machine, I use my blower to completely clean it including the deck and under it. I can't say enough positive about the gravely proWalk. Thanks again Paul, and take care.
@briantodd2376
@briantodd2376 3 ай бұрын
Looks like bluegrass from the close up shot. If that’s the case bluegrass grows thick and if it was damp like you said I can see why you had to slow your cut speed down. Not the mowers fault.
@markrussell1390
@markrussell1390 3 ай бұрын
grass just too high