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@winstontelly2232
@winstontelly2232 22 күн бұрын
Care to make a 2024 update? Given where we are now with AI
@Venoxisguides
@Venoxisguides Ай бұрын
Reminds me of the whole trans debate and their version of "truth"
@WiseConfucius
@WiseConfucius Ай бұрын
2024 anyone?
@Godzilla_Star_Eater
@Godzilla_Star_Eater Ай бұрын
13 years later Fox news ks actually good now
@mwhiteside7185
@mwhiteside7185 Ай бұрын
Well, checking in from 2024, this aged a little too well.
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 Ай бұрын
This needs to be coupled with the game's ending, where Kojima highlights the importance of subjective truths and finding something to believe in.
@private3946
@private3946 3 ай бұрын
this video is god dam amazing o-o ... Quite shocking how stupid we are and everything was that obvious from the start. that or Kojima is very very smart? idk lol
@pedrohenriquepontes9506
@pedrohenriquepontes9506 3 ай бұрын
i'm here to relate that all the info in this video is pretty accurate nowadays 23 year later the game.
@jopenope457
@jopenope457 4 ай бұрын
The problem is logo is saying you can’t argue against making useless entertainment is bad for us but through history people have been doing that, so the argument is pretty bull shit
@itismyelement
@itismyelement 4 ай бұрын
2024 and looking at our leaders the A.I. is right and it's here.
@itismyelement
@itismyelement 4 ай бұрын
2024 and this actually happening.
@EmoDKTsuchiya
@EmoDKTsuchiya 4 ай бұрын
Oh look. Its our current reality
@deadspace4755
@deadspace4755 4 ай бұрын
"Without free will, there is no difference between submission and rebellion." What does it mean exactly? He is referring to the patriots(Submission) and Solidus(Rebellion) but what is the connection between them(the words)? Prez means that without free will all is pointless? Surely l missed something or missed between the lines. But this quote still rings true as every line in this game, in our era. l want so much to milk every detail that is helpful that Kojima wants us to see and understand, since almost everything(if not all) is relevant to this day.
@deadspace4755
@deadspace4755 4 ай бұрын
"Without free will, there is no difference between submission and rebellion." What does it mean exactly? He is referring to the patriots(Submission) and Solidus(Rebellion) but what is the connection between them(the words)? Prez means that without free will all is pointless? Surely l missed something or missed between the lines. But this quote still rings true as every line in this game, in our era.
@LogosSteve
@LogosSteve 4 ай бұрын
Yeah you got it. Without free will everything is pointless, basically. This is all coming from another big theme across Japanese media called Self-Identity I will have to make a video on, at some point. It's very similar to free will.
@deadspace4755
@deadspace4755 4 ай бұрын
@@LogosSteve Free will, who gave that to us? Our own Creator, God. Without free will, we are just a machine or animal. But even with free will, we can still destroy others or our own self. So, it is about how you use it.
@lotheravanti4295
@lotheravanti4295 5 ай бұрын
No one can dispute how the most epic moment in the game is the Quiet scene at the very end and how the lyrics mix so well with the themes.
@anthonycovert9113
@anthonycovert9113 6 ай бұрын
The AI is right
@RESIDENTNINTENDO
@RESIDENTNINTENDO 6 ай бұрын
22 years later….
@jojoalsodayri5256
@jojoalsodayri5256 7 ай бұрын
Extremely beautiful and insightful videos, thank you so much.! Kindly, will there be vids for MGS3 and 4?
@LogosSteve
@LogosSteve 7 ай бұрын
Kind of. I've decided the next videos will be more about themes in japanese games/anime as a whole and I'll talk about them
@zlodrim9284
@zlodrim9284 4 ай бұрын
@@LogosSteve That's great to hear!
@deminidze
@deminidze 7 ай бұрын
so profound and intelligent, but for Christ's sake there is no need in retelling everything i've just heard with your own words. frankly, the way you put and the way they do is junk and it won't hold me enough to another coolass postmodern story how cats and foxnews enslaves us via internet and stuff, sry im off to do more valueable stuff my sink is more profound than this and there goes lotta crap i tell ya but, im not a sink
@BR-cr3bj
@BR-cr3bj 7 ай бұрын
it's 2024 and A.I did not help me write this
@monkeyspank3005
@monkeyspank3005 7 ай бұрын
Lost me when you singled out fox news.
@thelordofthelostbraincells
@thelordofthelostbraincells 8 ай бұрын
Our beloved monsters, *enjoy yourselves*
@Trippykiyay
@Trippykiyay 8 ай бұрын
It’s practically 2024. Now that AI is being utilized at large scale , I think it’s safe to say that this game was clairvoyant.
@mcdoogle_robotman
@mcdoogle_robotman 9 ай бұрын
And here we are.
@chrysm6842
@chrysm6842 10 ай бұрын
Ty !
@chrysm6842
@chrysm6842 10 ай бұрын
Thanks !
@chrysm6842
@chrysm6842 11 ай бұрын
A masterpiece.
@chrysm6842
@chrysm6842 11 ай бұрын
I just tried the URL we can read at 4:08 and it doesn't seem to be working... But I found this : junkerhq.net/MGS2gameplan.pdf
@chrysm6842
@chrysm6842 11 ай бұрын
++
@madeOfClay99
@madeOfClay99 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to watching more content from you, Steve
@FolstrimHori
@FolstrimHori 11 ай бұрын
where did you go?
@sebastianlindsey4495
@sebastianlindsey4495 11 ай бұрын
make an update video
@renegade637
@renegade637 Жыл бұрын
2006: Twitter is founded 2016: Twitter explodes when Trump becomes president. 2016-2023: Twitter becomes an echo chamber that amplifies the voices of the Woke and the Leftists, allowing them to create their own petri dish that stews with ideas that attempt to mold our society into something anti-societal. Obviously, it can be debated as to whether or not it was AI that actually did this, considering Twitter was engineered to push algorithms that favored the Woke and the Leftists, allowing the echo chamber to fester. We didn't even have chatbot until 2022. However, considering Twitter was engineered to work in a specific way, it can easily be insinuated that the programmers at Twitter designed the algorithm, programming it to learn how to push certain things, and then left it to it's own devices.
@barak363363
@barak363363 Жыл бұрын
8:00-e
@Ayahuasca98
@Ayahuasca98 Жыл бұрын
How does this get more relevant with time it’s absolutely interesting
@yugoxgc
@yugoxgc Жыл бұрын
The fact this game was released around 3 years after Google was founded is... a lot to process O_o
@YY-wu7et
@YY-wu7et Жыл бұрын
0:25 "AI's cannot possess any abilities that give them anything closer to freewill than humans have. We can make decisions ourselves." EXTREMELY presumptuous. Not only that humans actually have that but that AI technology will not evolve to possess a greater capacity for it that humans.
@kaneclarke4825
@kaneclarke4825 Жыл бұрын
I don’t find it depressing though. I don’t know if it needed to be uplifted.
@jimmieraper5807
@jimmieraper5807 Жыл бұрын
I remember this game very well
@bunkerbill
@bunkerbill Жыл бұрын
Makes me want a series on MGS3.
@LogosSteve
@LogosSteve Жыл бұрын
I wrote one but it's expanded into a larger project on themes in general of Japanese games/anime. It will cover all the big stuff in MGS3. And some of the stuff in MGS4.
@MarukoshiSeramoto
@MarukoshiSeramoto Жыл бұрын
lmao what about a remake of this video?
@shayhan6227
@shayhan6227 Жыл бұрын
Please continue to make content. This was a beautiful analysis
@ifthisismyhandlewhereismyspout
@ifthisismyhandlewhereismyspout Жыл бұрын
Kojima is one crazy dude... in the best way possible. The things he's responsible for me thinking about is something else. What a guy. I hope this world makes more like him. I really wish I could thank him.
@keiranbygate3752
@keiranbygate3752 Жыл бұрын
I always come back to this every once and a while first saw it at 16 I'm now 27.
@guerillahag
@guerillahag Жыл бұрын
✊🏽🥲 there is no ghost in the shell
@sleepingfury117
@sleepingfury117 Жыл бұрын
I'll never forget when I first encountered this for the first time in the middle of the night. Young innocent man maybe 11 years old at the time, just got his mind blown away. I'm pretty sure this dialog is why I can't meld with "society". I'm not even mad. No regrets.
@kuushix
@kuushix Жыл бұрын
Things that was happening from then coming out now how do you know who’s real and who’s not ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️🍌🍌🍌🍍🌰🌰🍐☄️🍎🌱🍓🌱🍑🍑🥝🥭🌕🍊🍏🍊🍉🍈 Thanks for this man all these years later damn 💜💚💜💚
@CYI3ERPUNK
@CYI3ERPUNK Жыл бұрын
glad to see this still being referenced in 2022/2023
@jonipp1
@jonipp1 Жыл бұрын
im here because a bald man from twitch KEKW edit: i feel like i just won lottery because your channel is literally made from gold, i have now watched pretty much everyone of your videos and i fucking love your content
@LogosSteve
@LogosSteve Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! I apologize for the reviews I think they're my weakest stuff by far.
@jonipp1
@jonipp1 Жыл бұрын
well this aged well
@puppetmaskerr
@puppetmaskerr 4 ай бұрын
How