This guy couldn't handle bouncing at chuck e cheese.

Thanks. :)

Ha how do u tell? I figured they use bots but had never heard anything. Either way I love how it looked right at the car.

@@LlamaCommando you see how he flicks around super fast and then doesnt flinch when the truck is coming full speed at him

@@enderemyy basically

@UCFSut0M9FPs6voMEylyS0Ag or billysmom48 like i got one time

ey man the guy just sent him back to old map xdd too funny

You seem like the kinda guy who eats at weenie hut jr's.

@@LlamaCommando what is that? Like Carl's jr? They make a pretty mean burger? Anyways you boys look like your bouncing at your local library. Finished cleaning your trumpet after band practice waiting for your mama to cook you dinner. I actually thought your video was supposed to be comedy. I laughed like a maniac watching it. Well done

@@jakesellers9447 doesn't mean a lot coming from a weenie hut jr's goer.

@@LlamaCommando where do you work?

@@jakesellers9447 the salty spittoon, think it's across the street from ur mom's house.

Jimmy Alonso sure man! Glad to help. Stay safe out there.

Careful, that arm lock is easy to escape.

AnInnocentLittleBoy Hey dude I appreciate the book recommendation, and that one is on my list ... But ... Wait for it... Dramatic build up... Dot dot dot You're wrong! But just kind of wrong, not completely wrong. If you pay attention to the context of when I advise using that technique it's right when two guys are about to fight. You might not be able to talk the instigator down. You're right about my advice possibly escalating the situation but that's not a bad thing. It's either let that person fight the other person, or get that person to focus the fight on you (which is your job if you're a bouncer). It's a dare. It lets em know clearly, they can fight but it won't go their way because you're ready to handle it. Most will back down, I've never seen anyone take a swing after using that. But if they do take a swing, you're ready for that too. Talking doesn't always work. It's important to know the difference because you've gotta try talking em down as much as you can. But when you can't, you need to realize that asap.

1 year as a regular team guy, 2 years as team leader, then ... 3? years after that as an alternate when I started bounty hunting and wasn't as available. Still do it on occasion for a myriad of different clubs and danger levels. If all you've got is a personal attack, why say anything? You're not helping anyone learn, you're not critiquing my approach or what I say, you're raising your hand and saying "I'm not smart enough to do anything else, so I'm just going to call you a stupid head." Go back to grade school with that.

Victor Leading Horse What I'm saying is that you do not have the presence needed to be a professional bouncer. That is not an insult, it's just a fact. So IF a company took you on as a bouncer, I would have to question the standard of the company or the venue. And as for the fact that you became a team leader after only a year? I was a sniper in a C.O.P unit in the force's. Then I worked in various countries in security before I worked the doors. And I still took years to work up to become the head doorman in the club's. I also have always been involved in MMA, boxing aswell as fitness. So I have quite high standards. Which I'm sorry, but you wouldn't pass the first part of my interview to become a doorman.

All right, show us how it's done then. Let's see your high standards, make a video for us all. How would a former sniper do it? What does a bouncer need? Suggest solutions for us to learn from instead of just pointing out problems you have with me.

@@jimp7173 sounds more like you just have a bad temperament and that lagged you back. This guy js undersized, but most of the basics in the video aren't wrong. I also enjoyed your laundry list of accolades that makes you think you should have the right to come into any setting and take over as head of security. A competent HoS who has a fraction of your overall experience but has a few years of that bar has the situational experience and will likely always know the bar, the crowd, and the tactics needed within it to handle the job better than you. As aggressive as you come off in text format, you're likely the type of gung ho jackass who'd beat someone and throw them out for knocking over a drink by accident. Get over yourself dude.

Cute, but through 18 different real (as in not during training, with strangers, who may or may not have had weapons) violent encounters I've been in, no one has done that. Not just bouncing either, I've taken fugitives back to jail. You don't need to lift weights, and you don't really need MMA just to defend yourself or even to bounce. MMA frankly would be a waste of time and lots of money for bouncing (are you an MMA coach? MMAers always say you need years of training because their business model depends on you believing that) Let's be real here, you're just trying to feel special by criticizing someone who's actually doing something. How about you step into this arena and make your own video? Let's see you do it better.

Well you're more thoughtful than I assumed. A personal attack isn't worth anything so I point those out to help them get downvoted, but you're trying to make some real points. If your approach demands a certain kind of strength, you misunderstand leverage as a philosophy and what a human's weapons are. Strength helps, sure, but strength isn't enough. Anytime something isn't enough by itself to solve a problem, you should ask if you need it at all. MMA training would be a fine supplement, but not needed because of the specialized approach I teach (it's evolved quite a bit from this video). It doesn't take much strength at all because it should work for anybody. I could train a reasonably healthy grandma to do this stuff. That's leverage. (altho she might be bad at intimidating folks ha) A human's greatest weapon isn't strength, if it was we'd be gorillas or buffalo. No, our weapon is our mind. And our mind gives us incredible leverage over everything. A few hours, with a bit of force on force training, and I can have someone ready to handle violence. With a FTO (like police use) to mentor them for their first couple shifts, they're fine. MMA or strength training isn't necessary. They're a distraction and a waste of time and money unless you like doing them anyway. When I was team leader, my best guys were never the MMAers. The mmaers escalated and started fights where there were none. My best bouncers were the military folk who saw combat, paramedics, and firefighters. The reason they were the best is because they stayed cool under pressure, they could handle their adrenaline. That's something MMA doesn't directly help with unless the fight happens in a cage. So why bother with MMA at all if I can teach the key skills better than they can? Oh and ... if your approach can't handle some hair pulling, it's not very good is it? If it ever happened, I'd be fine, I'd know what to do, but nobody pulls hair as far as I've seen. ... well except for chick fights. Ha, but they only pulled each others' hair.

Nope.

Jim laker

You should put suivineers of your bounties in your pony tail.

Kinky

Never happened, but even if so, that's not a great way to strangle anyone. If it happened, I'd just turn around into it and make them regret it. Most people aren't stupid enough to try it.

Just cut them off, if they are drunk normal logic doesnt apply. And saying something to take their drink could set them off. Make sure you get the emptys though.

Don't know what to tell ya, it works for us. Maybe you should make a video and show us how it's done.

read a book and get an attention span

That's good advice. You're right! We should waddle around like penguins all the time, keeping our legs together so no one can ever kick us in the balls. You better tell the Navy SEALs because they need this advice.. And cops ... think of how many people your expert advice will help!

Mr.Mask Maker you're missing my point. get some real experience, then see what advice matters to you. if youve got a critique on a point, write better.

Michael Leading Horse I think you are the one missing the point. I have real Experience so don't assume you know me this seems like what someone lacking in rel experience would say and there was nothing wrong with how i wrote it your reaction was something I'd expect from a teenager.

Mr.Mask Maker well your advice is just so basic, its kind of like putting "must breath oxygen" on a job listing. its weird to say. stancing isn't as impotant as an intuitive sense of your balance, and checking a kick is really easy. Further, being that neither me, nor any of my team have been nutted on the job through nearly 30 violent encounters across the team, it's a waste of typing based on our experiences. Has keeping your legs together really been key to your successes in your alleged encounters?

Michael Leading Horse there you go again talking shit and over exaggerating it's like talking to a kid that said "the world is going to end if you don't by me that toy" checking a kick you cant see coming from a square on stance ain't easy at all it wouldn't happen and once again you need to read what i said I did not say stand with your legs together just don't stand like a idiot with your balls out there saying kick me. a side on stance or boxer stance is better. and "alleged encounters" I find it hard to believe based on this you have done any real life door work if you think "checking a kick is really easy" easy if you know its coming but this isn't a martial arts class that kind of fight is not easy to predict could be a knee to the balls or a push from that stance would shove you backwards I'm just saying based on my years of door work it doesn't work like that and getting in the middle of them and shouting chill the fuck out is not something I'd recommend either I'd sand at the side and say whats going on here and that works because then they are talking to you and you can calm them down if i pushed one and said CHILL THE FUCK OUT they would most likely say or what? or fuck off. everyone has their own way of dealing with shit but the main issue i had was with your attitude in the first reply.I'm done now pointless arguing with someone that twists everything i say.

Interesting. Maybe you can show us all how it's done then?

None taken, I know exactly what you mean. It was a quickie made for my bouncers because we had a lotta new guys and they needed a quick reference to review on their own.

I've kicked out plenty of bigger guys, and plenty who fought. Usually had backup but not always. Size makes a difference but so does mace and technique. Backup is preferable, not always possible.

Hit Him ?

Jamal miller small guys have the ability of leverage. always go low on these guys of you have to, were all the same height on the ground, im a little bigger at 5'8" but you know how it goes when you gotta throw a 6'4" guy out.

Esslimani Channel quick way to lose your job......

Jamal miller yea...left hook to the liver drops any man...if it comes to blows

Carry a 🔪

Thanks for the feedback, I haven't had to use that one in a real scenario, and I prefer and used another that just seemed too complicated for the guys I made this video for. Looking back, I would've chosen something different too. Still that's some good feedback you dropped. :D

+Michael Leading Horse have you ever used a kubaton or an expandable baton?

jaime munoz Expandable yes. Be very careful and know about the local laws, just carrying one can be a misdemeanor in a lot of places. Never hit to the head unless it's life or death, batons to the head kill really easily.

Hey glad you found it useful. Best way to talk down comes from negotiation and we call it "refer to a higher power"--basically a threat that isn't under your control. Threat of arrest works better than threat of calling the cops for some reason even though they both mean about the same thing. "Hey man, you're done. Don't make me arrest you." Or "If you hit him, I'll have to arrest you. Etc etc" Most states actually do give you citizen's arrest authority (know your laws first though, I'm not a lawyer) but it never gets to that. The threat is enough. If you get protesting just be firm. "I don't care what he/she/they did, you're done. Just come back next week, or go somewhere else". Most guys don't want to fight and the ones who do, want a fight they can win. Dominant body language, acting really calm (even if you're afraid on the inside) a clear, authoritative, louder voice, and having one of your team there with you will keep control and be very persuasive to most guys. Try to work in pairs as much as possible if you think violence is about to ensue/have to kick someone out. Too intoxicated: The bartender/servers usually let you know but the rule is if they're being a nuisance and/or if other patrons complain about them (far more common and usually women getting harassed). If they can't stand very well use your judgement. Sometimes though, the crowd will get too thick and you'll miss one or two of these guys. We had 2 guys who couldn't stand fall into a pole and a wall in the corner--knocking themselves out. We found them at the end of the night. We think they were fighting but neither one remembered if they were. Ha. Stay safe out there!

+Ash Man, I've been doing security for 18+ years in various states and 9 times out of 10 you can talk someone out of a club rather then have to resort to physical force. If you have to use force then you failed as a security guard, IMO, because there was a breakdown in communication. The key is to stay patient. One of my catch phrases to get someone to at least get close to the door/exit is something along the lines of "Hey, can I talk to you for a second? But its really loud in here. Can we talk somewhere quieter?" Or "*cough* *cough* my throat really hurts. Can we talk somewhere quieter so I don't have to yell?" and motion towards the nearest exit. Typically they will follow you out the door, or at least get very close to it. At which point you state bluntly why they were asked to leave. They may not like it, but who cares you got them out without using force and your job is done. Just go back inside. The door guy will make sure that person doesn't go back in.

I would be careful about threatening arrest, or really anything that you're not prepared to or capable of carrying out. A smart guy would say, "What, are you a cop or something?" and that instantly puts you in a stickier situation, since saying "No" would decrease your authority and credibility in their eyes, increasing the likelihood of needing backup. WhichAnd answering "Yes" if it's not true could potentially jam you up legally. Just my two cents! (Former bouncer and federal law enforcement, 7+ years)

+Ian Knowland, in some states, like CA, bouncers with Guard Cards have the power of arrest and can put you in hand cuffs etc. Most major cities in CA require bouncers to have a guard card. So if a bouncer there says you will get arrested, they mean it.

Pet Rock's Garage Interesting! I had no idea about that, I've never encountered that in Oregon so I'm not sure if we have that same program. Good to know!