I think my problem is that Butler's thesis appears to be incredibly limited in it's effectiveness. If we were to abandon the "subject-object" dichotomy of representation then aren't we severely handicapping our ability to view the problem in anything other than the broadest possible strokes? How can marginalised groups advocate on the behalf of a "we", if said "we/I" cannot be coherently defined? If parody is constituted in opposition to a contradictory "truth" to what extent is parody as a mode of deconstruction subordinate to the very thing it is attempting to "de-naturalise"? Doesn't drag insist upon an original gendered subject in order to provide a heightened rendition of a inversion? Let's take for example the image of a drag queen. Could it be argued that the exaggerated "feminine" aesthetic expression the queen takes on during "her" moment of drag, contrary to exposing an artificiality at the core of gendered/sexed bodies, produce laughter on the basis of the conflict between the performance of gender and the "reality" of sex? The double contradiction of drag only works if we pre-supposed that the interior of the performer IS indeed "feminine". Drag has been, and to a lesser capacity currently very much still is, a factice of hetro-normative culture; The Daily Wire production "Lady Ballers" could be cited as a recent example (Shakespearean/Tudor theatre tradition could be another although far less contemporary). Is it then necessary to distinguish between "queer" and "cis-het" variations of drag? Where the former is defined by this supposed "feminine" interiority. Could that not lead to these modes of deconstruction being written off as an expectation to the well accepted rule? Displaced to the very fringes of legible identities? To what extent does the contemporary act of drag take the "male"/"female" binary as a given? Is there a possibility of drag representing "non-legible" identities? Taken further, is it even possible to represent these identities at all? What other modes of deconstruction can we take up besides drag and parody in order to facilitate "queer" and "women's" liberation? In light of Butlers repudiation that any alternative system that exists outside the current hegemonic culture can be reached is emancipation possible? Could it be argued in trying to free feminist politics (whatever that even means in a post-"I" context?) to new possibilities Butler has ironically trapped it in a fatalistic struggle? In which hetro-normativitve patriarchy can only ever be subverted not surpassed? I'm not entirely sure about all these points. I definitely come off as "anti-drag" which is not my intention, I merely wish to suggest it may have it's limits as a mode of praxis (is that the correct usage in this context?). I don't even wish to disavow the text which is clearly a monumental achievement in academic deconstruction. But eventually you must reconstruct what you have taken apart, no? I don't know, Gender Trouble is incredibly specific with it's language and densely packed so I could be grossly misrepresenting Butlers ideas, please let me know if I am as I'm still pretty new to philosophy :p. If I may practise what I preach however I would like to provide one more "insight". Butler disagrees with Lacan and Kristeva on their ability to provide a critique of patriarchy that doesn't eventually fold into it/"phallocentrism"; She doesn't, however, appear to FULLY dispute the logic these theories/analysis run on. Is there a possibility for a post-Butler Lacanian and/or Kristevain school of thought? One that fixes the perceived problems I've listed above. Perhaps this has already happened. I am aware Zizek has spoken on the subject (though I haven't dipped into it personally!). And I'm sure there's a hella lot written about this book so I should probably just dip into that. (P.S. I hate double commenting but in this rare case i see at as appropriate. Sorry. <3)
@purplespottedkangroos99566 күн бұрын
6:38:20 Throughout this chapter Butler refers to Herculine/Alexina as "S/he". The audio-recording appears to resort to "she" as there doesn't appear to be an effective way of pronouncing it out loud, at least without awkwardly spelling it out. Anybody encountering the text for the first time should keep in mind that Butler is not using female pronouns to refer to Herculine/Alexina. (-:
@primaprimavera3578 күн бұрын
И что теперь будет? Страшно. 😱
@dirtycelinefrenchman11 күн бұрын
218 “The spectacle as a whole is [the spectator’s) mirror sign, presenting illusory escapes from a universal autism.”
@dirtycelinefrenchman11 күн бұрын
Doomerism as “outraged goodwill”
@dirtycelinefrenchman11 күн бұрын
As if anticipating the neoliberal transformation about to come: “The goal remains the same: to restructure society without community.”
@dirtycelinefrenchman11 күн бұрын
The second half really pays off if you can stick with it
@dirtycelinefrenchman11 күн бұрын
172 on urban space as representing the the “pseudo-community” of isolated individuals
@dirtycelinefrenchman14 күн бұрын
Good work, consumer capitalism
@dethkon16 күн бұрын
How many of y’all like sex?
@dethkon16 күн бұрын
This book is savage; I love it.
@CorinaChirilaArtist21 күн бұрын
Judith Butler has put the world in trouble with her theory
@M0ONCommander29 күн бұрын
cocky want boing boing
@XD226Ай бұрын
What a pile of crap
@XD226Ай бұрын
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@XD226Ай бұрын
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@XD226Ай бұрын
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@ChickenIandlEggs2 ай бұрын
So much has changed in 3 years since this was released with AI making commodities out of life, music and even live acting.. can’t imagine what Guy Deborr would think about the world now, let alone what’s ahead of us.
@joeydinero93002 ай бұрын
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@joeydinero93002 ай бұрын
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@ToughdataTiktok2 ай бұрын
Foucault may speak for the European prison system, but the American prison system is an entirely different story.
@user-us1yu8gx9s2 ай бұрын
I have bad adhd. I havent been able to sit though a text since i was in middle school. Audio books are a savior for my brain. I can comprehend the text better in half the time while gettinng ready or sitting on the train. i love writing but reading i cant seem to focus on.
@markaplier12613 ай бұрын
What I think is telling and important to note before going deepercinto this book is that Judith Butler assumes that everyine is constantly judging eachothers gender. This is such a lie. With gender I mean biological gender(the only definition of gender that is narrowly defined). All appearances of are expressions of the persons personality at hand, which may want to express by his or her choice what biological gender he or she is. A man with a dress may appear as a woman as long as you associate a dress with being a woman. But that is absolutely not fixed. The fact that a dress(this is an example by the way, I could have akso spoken about makeup shoes or hairstyle, or find some other things) is a marker for being a woman is because historically people from whom it was known from them to be women(for example because they had breast or had been seen naked, or had been told to be women by their parents, or because of other fenotypical bodily expressions of gender) wore dresses. It is a marker for female gender, but ut does not itself contitute a criteria of the female gender. I am talking by the way about only certain cultures where this is such, like in europe, as in other cultures dresses were not specifically tied to femaleness. When we start defining gender only on cultural norms the term of gender becomes meaningless. It is replacing detailistic and analytic worldviews with holistic ones, and this is absolutely useless, because if we would rrason hollistically then even the whole idea of human non human, alive or dead fall away. Holistucism is nott helping to solve our problems or chase our desires. What use does it have to see a tree and the earth as one and thebsame if one is trying to grow more apples? We musnt forget that science is not only theoretical masturbation, science is the endepthning of our knowledgebbase about the world on which we can build a betterband stronger future. When our theories start ceasing to at leastbtry to give sollutions to this problem, we are doomed
@GrayYeonWannabe22 күн бұрын
you are judging other people's gender by asserting you know what gender is. that's part of it
@GrayYeonWannabe22 күн бұрын
also, i have found a rich vein of meaning in this which absolutely has informed how i act and think. i'm sorry you didn't get the same experience out of it that i did
@markaplier126119 күн бұрын
@@GrayYeonWannabe what??? no i am not. I said biological gender, so yes, i know what that is.
@markaplier126119 күн бұрын
@@GrayYeonWannabe you don't need to feel sorry for me. I don't think I'm missing anything. And what does this have anything to do with it?
@purplespottedkangroos99564 күн бұрын
What is biological gender though? Is there a chromosome with the words "boy" or "girl" inscribed upon it? Not to be condescending but I'd recommend reading reading "concluding unscientific postscript" (On pages 144-150) again if you have the chance. Butler launches a far better critique of the methodology behind the research around biological sex than I could. "Gender" and "sex" are both human made categories, products of language, which can/should be called into question, that is in fact the most scientific thing we can do.
@PrimoPete3 ай бұрын
I was afraid, I thought Zizek himself would be narrating.
@johnhelm62314 ай бұрын
🏵️👋👍🤑☎️📷🪦
@marinusr93394 ай бұрын
incredible effort!
@paraphilicanalysis17375 ай бұрын
When it comes to the idea of a subject, through which we believe, I am reminded of a quote from Watchmen: “Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.”
@Peter-zj8do5 ай бұрын
The amount of ads are the real torture
@mikachu694205 ай бұрын
did there have to be ads every 5 minutes tho like...
@manofculture18715 ай бұрын
This book is so damn unreadable. I love it.
@JackA1973UK6 ай бұрын
Couldn't even get past the preface - not really fond of audiobooks though.
@vaporchild18216 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! ❤
@fiaistired6 ай бұрын
it’s difficult to find this book in my country and i found it to be very expensive to buy and ship to here. so thank you so much for this video!
@Pazzystar2 ай бұрын
𝙷𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚝𝚛𝚒𝚎𝚍 𝙰𝚖𝚊𝚣𝚘𝚗 𝚋𝚘𝚘𝚔𝚜?
@shannonm.townsend12326 ай бұрын
Is it a human reader
@dsff62887 ай бұрын
1- How marx invent the symptom - 2-from sy,ptom to sinthome 3- che vuoi thinking-+ wish subject is the real-
@dev64467 ай бұрын
@54:00
@tangerinesarebetterthanora70607 ай бұрын
People that say that Foucault's writings lack substance are only listening his books without asking questions themselves that his analysis can lead to. "Postmodern" thinker's in general aren't going to hand you answer.
@bluntsage86167 ай бұрын
Thank you❤
@duskopopov38398 ай бұрын
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@ChristineSpinosa8 ай бұрын
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@yusuke_anime11018 ай бұрын
55:39 page 22 first word
@Christine-tp5pv8 ай бұрын
bookmark: 1:18:52
@lloydjmetz2748 ай бұрын
Damn was hoping it'd be in the author's voice...
@_seth94308 ай бұрын
Now just imagine this book voiced by AI Ziziek...
@antoniusdeweerd85068 ай бұрын
Amazing work ! So great to have an audio version of this. Much appreciated ❤ Just a small note to all non-French speakers: “Che vuoi?” Is not French but Italian … and means: “what do you want ?” (It is also connected to the famous Italian hand gesture 🤌) In French it would be: “qu'est-ce que tu veux?”… The unfortunate consequence is that most English speakers end up pronouncing the words as if they are French thereby uttering two French words that have nothing to do with what’s at stake being “chez” (at the house/place of) and “voix” (voice)… Is you wanna do it correctly here’s how it’s done: “Che” is pronounced with a ‘k’ sound at the beginning. “Vuoi” has a ‘v’ sound followed by a ‘w’ followed by “oy” (as in boy).
@evertonsilva59558 ай бұрын
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@whatcanisay38629 ай бұрын
Thanks ❤
@desmulcahy9 ай бұрын
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@MathGPT9 ай бұрын
Interesting how the evolution of punishment occurred mere decades after American Independence. Seems like losing european hegemony led them to seek a new type of superiority; socially. Funny how the need to feel superior to others evolved into the modern liberalism