Please no shields!! All they have to do is balance characters based on win rates and simple statistics. It's honestly not rocket science.

i don't play multiversus, but i heavily fw the idea of what you've got going on it's incredibly fair to critique a system for how it works and functions in comparison to other games with similar mechanics, because each of them work for those games and the systems they are built around, but the 3 frame parry for such little gain makes it such a hideous option that it's like a deck of exclusively 0's in KH:COM (If used after another card, it nullifies the incoming attack, but if used before it, it's nullified, given some enemy encounters can get hectic, it's just a bad move since you'll eventually get overwhelmed) or adding a 4th option in rock paper scissors, that only works if your opponent has used paper, and then rock- that is to say, if i knew that using paper and following up with rock set me up for a 50/50 chance of just losing, i'd just opt to go for the same one twice, especially in a best 2 out of 3 situation, because if i chance the parry and get punched in the face for it, or the parry works and the enemy can just escape the combo i put them in, why would i not just either try for frame advantage on an attack, or hopefully get out of the way? an odd comparison but RG in DMC3/4 feels like it's incredibly similar to what's going on in this game, except enemies have more predictable cues for their attacks and combo strings, if you wiff it, you just get your face beat in without much you can do about the situation in both cases, but with RG, there's enough room for you to learn and other mechanics and advantages that can help you get to a point where you want to use it because of the fact that RR/Royal Release basically allows you to have a free delete button when you're using it well, there's motivation for the player to want to actually use it in situations they know it's safe in because of the fact that successful uses build up a charge- it may not come in handy at that moment, but it's in your back pocket for when you need it- and it feels wrong to say this, especially considering i haven't actually played the game, but something like 3 successful parries giving you a "get out of jail free" card definitely sounds like it would be good on paper, but it's something i can see going wrong because if both players have them, it'll eventually just turn into baiting it out of the other player and then burning yours to put things back to neutral, which could be good, but at that point, it'll basically end up as the sort of mechanic that doesn't feel like it does anything, because if you decide to pop it while being hit with a combo string, and your opponent also just does the same thing a frame afterwards, nothing has really changed- and if it ends up on a timer, it might just end up at a point where things are being drawn out for too long, and if it goes away or starts to vanish when the player with the parries goes on the offense, then it's just punishing the person with those parries because of the fact that they lost the bonus because they started pushing back wack

Mvs comm will defend that game so much it’s sad. It’s seems like since they like the game they ignore the awful decisions it has made along the way. They can’t accept the fact the game is trash, simply put.

Preach bro MVS community has a MASSIVE toxic positivity problem.

the parry should behave and work like Dissidia duodecim parry, you just get locked and block projectiles back and reflect physical moves, the enemy flinches with you only have a small gap for quick jabs tops

Great videos! I’ll share this with Tony.

Bro really censored the word "shit" in a Twitter screenshot💀

Why does everyone refuse to acknowledge how these characters need less recovery frames because right now everyone can run around not getting punished..shields are nice but cmon.. this playerbase cannot be that blind

I swear, multiversus never listens to players like tha shogun and only listens to shitty opinions. I'm not a good player either but it feels like the top tiers never get nerfed and they still havent fixed the projectlie glitch despite mentioning it TWICE on stream. I know Nakat and Ajax are NOT devs but you think they woukd fix an important bug like this

get this guy on the balance team

This video is my spirit animal. Big W takes.

9:35 I literally uninstalled yesterday because I just got so tired of getting hit by stuff I shouldn't have and missing attacks. I'll comeback when bananas grounded neutral special actually has a hitbox

The game has a bunch of neat ideas... on paper. But the technical side of things is quite the mess indeed. Yeah, the lingering stuff and hitboxes are the worst offenders. They need to get on that before anything else.

Couldn't even spell commentator right. :P *Also, with "its" flaws. No apostrophe for this case.

8:29 THATS ME LOL

This game is such a mess

Played 3 seasons and I’ve had to deny myself continuing the battlepass, because it left me feeling like the game is another job. I truly wish they can fix it. Buff parry back so there’s some more incentive to actually try and offensively block Parry lockout was fine. Now make parry window more than 3 frames!!!! We all have latency because it’s always-online. So no point in making it so difficult when hitboxes are so ridiculous

Cool let's just add Ultimates too while we're at at it. Make sure you throw in Ultimates that auto kill you at 100 damage because those were just THE BEST.

Love the ideas here, but i think you think more bandwidth is being placed on shield than there is. Also auto teching + hitboxes and hurtboxes are being looked at now. I do hope all this stuff is worked on, but i think shield being a thing is a good thing here. Its clear that theres alot of things are wonky all around; it isnt easy making a good fast game with no shield and i dont think this is accounted for in this video at all. Shield and block mechanics are much more understood. i know NAKAT has been pushing for improving mechanics and putting shield in and hes the one person on that team that i would trust to actually do that right. Hoping for the best in S4.

niggas rlly play this shit game still when rivals and smash have existed for EVER

I knew parrying was bad, but I didn’t know it was 3 frames bad. Like I get the whole “mash parry out of hitstun” was bad, but the parry lockout fixed that, so why is the window still only 3 frames? Also, something not mentioned about parry is that for a successful parry, a hitbox needs to contact your character’s hurtbox. This is an issue when the parry animation can cause massive hurtbox shifts leading to what should be a successful parry but isn’t because of this shift. Smash Ultimate does parry based on a bubble around your character the same as shielding, so it would be nice if MVS would do the same

It's crazy how they went on hiatus for a year just to make the game worse

Omg I would love to have a neutral dodge!

Pfg and the devs dont even realize that their game is completely broken, they dont even play the game and its obvious

sadly this game is suffering from toxic positivity, and ppl are defending the bad and the good, so the devs dont know whats rly good and whats rly bad, i cant believe that the hitboxes are still not fixed and the movement is still this slow with no real movement mechanic and the hit stun is still annoying, and now shields with no grab, and dont u guys tell me about the instant shield break cuz its not the same

I'm so sick of people being like "all this game needs is more characters and balancing." Holy shit can't even compete, my lag/delay/server/netcode issues (or whatever the fuck is causing this) makes my game slower, like in every way, in start up, recovery, spot dodge, any cancels, MY hitstun, (Which just give my opponent new combos) I can't even put into words how much needs to be fix/reworked, and people should of never let it get to this point.

this n treating shittiversus like it's a real fighting game

I agree PFG should've just buffed parry, MVS was clearly built around that mechanic to begin with, I guess all the Smash players shitting on the game must've really gotten to them, now they're trying to cater to the Smash community rather than establishing their own

I think they can do both

Parry was actually good in the beginning but they said it was “too easy” and made it tighter

I agree that they need to fix hitbox on the game, but i disagree them being the reason people are leaving, people are leaving because it's boring af playing vs a batman that keep running all day long and you can't approach him, of shaggy being able to kill you instantly after he dodge+jab, and i don't think a better parry would help in any way. I think shields are really great for this game, testing them in the testing grounds was a really fun experience, and with the game becoming faster it will help make way better experience

Bro there's been shields in Platform fighters since 1999... if you prefer your PFs without shields that's cool and all, but ALL of the games you mentioned are inspired from smash?? Brawlhalla is not the most popular Platform fighter.. without smash bros, there'd be NO BRAWLHALLA, NO MVS, AND NO RIVALS I do agree with you tho they need to fix so much more of this game before they implement shields. This games never been in a finished state, it was rushed out, it's been patched damn near every few weeks since it's came out.. this game is NEVER gonna be in a finished state IMHO...

I always said people gove PFG way to much credit they are a shit team that dont know what they are doing. They get so much leeway due to transparency but other then that this studio is dog shit

I fully agree, putting a bandaid is not going to fix anything. I have tons of gripes with the game. I literally see the players everyday, spamming is encouraged, even on burn out it barely does anything, auto dodge is dog crap, carried characters. But I feel the game going to be joining Nickelodeon all stars brawl 2 at failing

This is why I hate this development team so much I literally could have went to a homeless shelter and got people to better acknowledge this games downsides it's so annoying how instead of doing things the people are asking them to do like fixing the hitboxes and increasing the game speed and making the controls more responsive they keep doing dumb crap like adding Shields, new characters that only exacerbate the problems the game already has and Nerfs. I honestly wish the worst for this game because this is the first time I feel like a development Studio actively went out of their way to make a promising product worse. All the characters are locked all the characters are harder to obtain than they were in the beta without spending money on top of all of the technical issues that weren't even an issue in the beta, all while they keep doing greedy crap like pushing passes to siphon money out of people they don't listen to. I honestly hope this dies, not just because these people don't deserve the attention they got, not just because Im tired of people supporting terrible live service slop, but this attention could be better suited towards Rivals of Aether which I have been playing and is so much more fun than this game and is made by a team that actually seems like they care about thier craft

I can't imagine how much of a sucker someone would have to be to get angry at someone for criticizing a game as awful as multiverses. I wonder if these people would throw money at an empty shoebox

Idk man, everytime i play this it just feel sooooo sluggish Anytime i play any other game and come back to this game it makes Multiversus feel so slow. It just feels like u move slow and every move u do come out slow. I just dont know how they had a game that felt so smooth and responsive in the beta and changed the whole game bruh. I know they say its for the viewing experience but most fighting games and platform fighters move pretty fast so i dont even understand that. I used to like this game a lot, it gave a lot of freedom when it came too your combo routes and method of play, for example i used the balloons and bombs Harley has as field control and combo extensions. But if try to play that same way the balloon flies up, i pull out the bomb really slowly and detonate it slowly, its way harder to follow up if they actually get hit but the balloon since i move slower, i try to use dair and harley slowly moves down. TLDR; game feeling like your trudging through mud everytime i try to play game

It will too, any OP move and attack will be mostly be countered by shields while they fix It, plus bad characters will have a better fighting chance

This is a problem in the whole genre. It all stems from Smash Brawl that made 99.99% of moves minus, even in Ultimate and Rivals 2 95% of moves are minus on shield. If come from 2D fighters, you can notice this easily. You are the only one to notice this in over 5 years.

Yeah always being plus is a problem, having to learn which attacks can be punished on shield is a part of the skill factor

nothing will fix the game. It is an awful floatie brawlhalla mess

Needs to be shield stun. To me the biggest problem from day 1 of beta till now is the fact that no matter how low or late you do an aerial, the full attack will go out and have you hover above the ground. That and just the general flatness of once you initiate an aerial, it just makes you float relatively in space, and minimizes gravity and previous momentum

I would argue many of the games core issues are because of the lack of a universal block mechanic. The reason why characters like Morty or Shaggy are so frustrating to play against is because of a lack of good options against their kits. For example, when Shaggy is about to kick you, you have two options: A. Jump over him, or B. Try to dodge it. Well, in case A you will generally be too slow so most players would go for option B. In option B's case, even if you time the dodge properly you still are generally not going to have enough time to punish Shaggy due to the distance of the kick. Because you are unable to punish said kick, Shaggy will continue to spam it. Shields solves this by giving the player extra options to deal with annoying moves such as Shaggy's kick. Now instead of having to time a dodge against a predictable move, I am now able to block said option and punish with my own option. One of the biggest complaints about current Multiversus how frustrating it can be and a big reason for that is the lack of options the game has when you are against predictable, spammable options like Shaggy's kick (Morty's dirt and Taz tornado are also applicable). Giving the player more options in combat is a good thing.

I don't think shields will fix this game, but I do think it's a step in the right direction. Granted, they need about 30 more steps in order for this game to be actually good, but hey, a start is a start.

Gay ass game fr, switch to rivals 2

Yall so silly b, shields is 100% needed in this game

Biggest issue imo about adding shields is what makes Steven universe unique to play then? Why was it not a design from the start? I like MVS but the dev team is uncertain if it wants to be casual party game or comp platform fighter. Not willing to stick around to find out. Too many other actually well designed games to spend my time on. Best of luck to those of you who actually wanna stick it out.

I hope this game doesn’t die again It’s a really cool idea but the game design at its core is so awkward. Weird hitboxes the input delay they have in between moves make the game feel so slow. The game has so much potential but it’s being limited 🙏🏾