Great presentation, thank you! Greg VK4GRG

Love this!

Thanks for the sanity check,Howard! Nice video ! de N2WBJ

Great idea for a video. It has been along time since I’ve heard a Drake linear or a D104. Fond memories of both.

What's wrong with using QSL to confirm reception of an SKCC number in a cw QSO?, or a grid square in a satellite exchange? Tilting at windmills a bit Howard? :) Tom, W9TOX

Right, I do the same, 20 times CQ, I turn the dial! Good comments Howard,thanks F5IJO

Culture always evolves, but it's still valuable to know the lineage. I don't know that you're that much older than me, but you're much older in the hobby than I am -- I just picked it up this year! I'd also wondered about the current use of QSL (because while I'm a new ham, I used to be an SWL). It seems to be very common on SSB to use "QSL?" instead of "Copy?" or just "Over", and having heard it used that way, and, "QSL!" instead of "Roger!" to confirm. I'll admit I've pretty much just followed the crowd, without really thinking about it much. I'm only just starting to learn code (with LICW :-D ), so I don't have much experience yet with hearing it used that way with code, as well. I agree with you that, in CW, where brevity matters, "QSL?" as a question feels redundant, and "QSL" as an answer longer than "R". At any rate, I definitely appreciate the perspective! Thank you!

Thanks for clearing these things up Howard! As an old CW operator I know exactly what you are talking about.

Here's hoping you will be around for a long time, Howard! Thx fer cw gems es fb lessons!

This is so great, howard! My favorite part of hamfests is walking around the swaps and tailgate areas with my mom and dad.

Good video. I agree completely on the use of "QSL" and "pse cpi". In reading the IARU Procedural Manual, it states AR as being used at the end of a CQ call, e.g., CQ DE AB1CDE AR. The author claims K is incorrect because K means "over to you", but on a CQ call there is nobody in the contact to turn it over to (yet). I like AR because sometimes K sounds like the end of the caller's call sign....a spacing problem. Anyway, I thank the LICW Club for furthering my enjoyment of the hobby. 73 de KJ4MZ #2000.

Agree!

thank you

Muy interesante amigo 👏🏻 73

Thanks for the tour.

I joined LICW 2 weeks ago and just started INT 1&2. I call CQ here in the UK at 12-14wpm and many times get replies at higher speed. I asked on a forum why would people do that as I was taught to reply at the same speed. I was told, by operators that do it, they assume you are sending slow for slower operators so send faster just in case you work faster. They then said my 30 year old call sign was the reason. What happened to replying at the same speed? Also 95% over here don't QRS when asked. Totally agree with QSL, I hear QSL in CW suggests we will exchange paper cards. A very worth while video with useful information as always. Thank you.

Thanks, useful rundown of what we hear these days. I got my first license in 1980 and has been off since about 1990. Coming back now and wondering a bit about some of the things you mention here if there is a good reason it has changed. Nice to get that cleared up!

Great video Howard bet you would like to fill up your car with those oldies 🤣

As a new CW operator, these kind of tips are very valuable and love hearing the historical context. Thanks Howard!

Good stuff Howard! I hope you will continue to share your "CW Thoughts" with us! 73, Patrick KF4LMZ

Enjoyed the tour Howard! Thanks for bringing us along! 73, Patrick KF4LMZ

Thanks for this tour!

Howard, Vibroplex key was Vibrocube standard

Absoluetly agree about the cq call. cq x3 c/s x2 pause and if no response send 2x2 until acknowledged. IMO a cq longer than the 3x2 format is wasting every ops time, the initiator as well as the op waiting to respond. Again, IMO the initial 3x2 and subsiquent 2x2 comes across as efficient, considerate and profesional.

Most certainly appreciate you sharing your experience. I will take it for action. Sonny WC8L

Thanks for sharing, Howard! It’s great to hear from someone with so much experience. My only sin is sometimes sending QSL. I’ll try to use R instead.

Finally, I remember to actually get online in time for the live stream!!!

Just joined... This club is BEYOND fantastic!

This is quite GLORIOUS!!!

Excellent presentation well done Guys Dave M0GGK

That was fun. I'm afraid I don't have any chopped liver, but I wonder if a can of tuna might work? (and at the risk of sounding like a real prig, I believe that culinary instrument was a fork, not a spoon). In any case, I have a crow bar and pliers, so I'm all set to practice out in the garage (where my wife will likely banish me if I keep obsessing about ham radio). w5paz(/hc?)

What character WPM and Effective WPM do you recommend for this?

A wonderful example of what Paul Sellers would say of a "Maker" doing something they love and gifting their talent to others. Thank you to Phil and to the LICW for posting this. 73 John KQ4BZY

Very interesting Howard thankyou.

Is Howard still teaching or has he retired from the club ?

Incredible, so if you sign up for a class will you be learning under this new method?

Thanks for sharing!!!

Thank you for presenting this great information at Hamvention 2024!

Im watching the video from the beginning...you never explained what a straight key is, what a paddle is, so folks already lost.

While recognizing that most people never complete anything they start, and acknowledging whether or not they complete your program is not actually your responsibility, what is the actual effectiveness of this approach in folks ultimately becoming proficient in CW? I suspect it is very low. I easily learned CW when studying for my Novice license when I was 10 years old, using the most inefficient way possible because that was in 1960 and we just brute force drilled until we got it. But, that was the benefit of an agile 10 year old brain. Bottom line, I guess, is whether in the end your method actually leads to a higher number of folks sticking to the process than any other method. It is clearly more efficient, but is it more effective?

Great presentation

The description of the "new method" starts at around minute 35 and 20 sec.

OK - Thank you for this. I am just starting, elderly 74, it is of course hard. I found this very useful - mixing opposite characters and similar characters, I thought it was just me ! Over study - yes I have thought that of myself. I shall be more than happy to get to 20 wpm in the end. I found this presentation to re-motivate me, I will not get so anxious any more and concentrate on the FUN. I have tried being on the air, on occasions despite loads of free space on our bands here in the UK, some nice people have sent over the top or carriers. They have not put me off by the way, just sometimes the air in the shack goes "blue" for a bit. So again THANK YOU.

As Ludwig Koch was German, the 'ch' is pronounced as [χ]. Americans would probably write 'kh'. Koch rhymes with the Scottish word "loch", as in Loch Ness.

Very nice! I listened to the entire presentation.

Fantastic presentation Howard, Mike and Jim! Even as a member of our club, I enjoy hearing you all describe our fantastic club and even learning more about its history. Thank you Jim for creating this video!

Thanks all for capturing the recording, and to Jim for creating the video. Having missed the presentation, it was nice to have it captured. TU ES 73!

It's really fun. I've been taking part for a few weeks now and always look forward to the next lesson. I am not a native English speaker and yet I can follow and participate well. When mistakes happen, nobody makes fun of or criticises. It's a relaxed way to learn. I am glad to have found the licw. Thanks guys. Tobias DL5ZAT

Hi Howard, thank so much for what you do for us. De ZS6MSW

That was awesome and just what I needed after stepping away for a few months. Thank you!!!! Dale. W1EW 🎙️