El Reno 2011 visualization (2014)
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Supercell on a Carousel (2005)
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Supercells In Polygondwanaland
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Illuminated Supercells
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The Top (4K)
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O R F ORF
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Supercomputers and Supercells
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Leigh Orf Q&A #1
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Leigh Orf June 2021 research update
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@xshaide
@xshaide 2 күн бұрын
Would you be able to divulge the outputs you use to visualize the cloud matter in cm1? Thankyou
@williamduckworth305
@williamduckworth305 2 күн бұрын
But the funnel is the part that eats your house...
@user-xf8xc6cp1e
@user-xf8xc6cp1e 3 күн бұрын
where is the audio
@redneckrevolt1
@redneckrevolt1 4 күн бұрын
This helps me understand so much more! I doubt I’ve ever met anyone who would know this much about how a tornado forms!
@fjs1111
@fjs1111 8 күн бұрын
Leigh, I commented once before in another video of yours. I'm quite an experienced software developer among other things and that is most impressive. It's always more difficult when you begin before the framework and modeling engines are developed/widely implemented. You've built quite the name for yourself, keep it up!
@redneckrevolt1
@redneckrevolt1 10 күн бұрын
Best video on tornados and how they form! Now I watch real tornados and understand where the twists are coming from!
@Vernon-gn9wb
@Vernon-gn9wb 10 күн бұрын
Cletus! Its comin' right fer us!!!
@doctorshawzy6477
@doctorshawzy6477 12 күн бұрын
miso meso?
@jordansoflylogs8526
@jordansoflylogs8526 12 күн бұрын
this would make Tim and Pete so happy!! RIP Samaras Family!!!
@melodymonger
@melodymonger 12 күн бұрын
I've been watching a lot of storm chaser videos lately and started wanting to learn more about mesocyclones, supercells, updrafts and downdrafts etc and this video is pure gold 🥇👏. This is why I ❤ simulation and visualization. So fascinating 🤓
@ILLUMINATI38436
@ILLUMINATI38436 13 күн бұрын
Kudos to Dorothy 👍
@rando4038
@rando4038 14 күн бұрын
To 5m resolution and beyond!
@MarilynMansonIsBetterThanRap
@MarilynMansonIsBetterThanRap 14 күн бұрын
Please never say spawned a tornado you sound uneducated in research.
@robertmerkle6879
@robertmerkle6879 17 күн бұрын
Humble Brag: "I don't know what it means but it looks pretty cool..." This guy seems to be a computer scientist that minored in Sever Weather. Anyway, this is the coolest thing I have ever seen. Thankyou for sharing your work on yt!
@LeCharles07
@LeCharles07 18 күн бұрын
I need new hobbies. I recognized the 1985 Fort Worth crash reference from the episode of Mayday. :C
@xitheris1758
@xitheris1758 18 күн бұрын
It's difficult to find an older scientist. They tend to let their untested hypotheses become ossified beliefs. They often become so stuck in their ways that they end up resorting to the same attitudes common in pseudoscience. There seems to be a cycle that a scientific field can fall into. 1) A generation proposes hypotheses, performs experiments, and discovers breakthroughs. 2) The Discoverers mentor the next generation in formulating a model based on those breakthroughs. 3) The Model brings progress, excitement, funds, and public trust; the Modelmakers take over; and they push the Model. 4) The Modelmakers emotionally invest in the Model, and they come to not want their work superceeded. 5) Enough of the Modelmakers disallow questioning the Model that dogma develops against the Scientific Method. 6) Progress, excitement, funds, and public trust decrease; and the field shrinks in a negative feedback loop of toxic culture. 7) The Modelmakers retire or die, the dogma breaks down, and the field opens back up to the Scientific Method. 8) The field is revitalized as hypotheses are proposed, experiments performed, and breakthroughs discovered.
@xitheris1758
@xitheris1758 18 күн бұрын
Some back-of-the-envelope results: If the full supercell simulation he references here took 4 weeks and was done in 2017, then we're looking at about the 2060's to start using the real-time probability simulations he dreams of. 4 weeks/simulation * 7 days/week * 24 hours/day * 60 minutes/hour = 40,320 minutes/simulation We'll need at least 100 simulations, all completed within 10 minutes. Moore's Law is twice the computing speed every two years. So, we're looking at, 4*7*24*60*100/2^(X/2) Where X is the number of years after 2017. Solve for X, round up, and you get 38. 2017 plus 38 is 2055. Add another 10 years for various other factors, and we're at 2065. I'll still (barely) be working age by then, but I'd wager nobody in attendance at this meeting will be. We're still decades from tornado evaculations.
@xitheris1758
@xitheris1758 18 күн бұрын
I don't know much about tornadogenesis, but it looks like the big anticyclone that forms to the left of the smaller incoming cyclones plays a role in corralling their vorticities together. Is that already well-studied or is it not the case?
@exosphere3d
@exosphere3d 18 күн бұрын
i was pretty sure i was the only one to remember that graupel was a thing, took quite a few searches especially considering that my memory of it was spelled "grovel". stunning viz work all around. i'm curious if you saw the recent awesome footage from Reed Timmer and how it must validate (or refine, or challenge) your understand of tornadic simulation. have you done a computation based on, and compared to, an actual super cell event? left side simulation, right side satellite photo....that style of video?
@mond000
@mond000 19 күн бұрын
I would imagine that a model like this could be used in conjunction with a mechanism to heat the air in certain spots to affect storm formation/intensity. Probably the state of the art of such tech would be classified and many decades ahead of this guy's work.
@cmerk72
@cmerk72 19 күн бұрын
Impressive work!
@iehudim
@iehudim 19 күн бұрын
2024 a 500km just happens, multiple vortex
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 19 күн бұрын
Dr. Orf is the GOAT! 🌪️🐐
@Edn4
@Edn4 19 күн бұрын
Neat! Kind of silly how they cut it down to two sentences
@Otyrr
@Otyrr 20 күн бұрын
Have you found any interesting points yet as to what causes the anti-vortex forces that seem to eventually shut down tornadoes?
@alekverhovod
@alekverhovod 20 күн бұрын
..can produce the moving equivalent of a nuclear bomb... Testing of weather weapons based on the pulsed subcritical reaction of plutonium began in the USA in the mid-50s. This is why there is no PUBLIC radiology network in the US. Weather drones were at first primitive balloons with difficult radio control, but scientific progress has taken its toll and today they are incredibly effective. DON'T LOOK UP ) OPPENHEIMER - Creating The Nuke Scene Cortex Videos 15:44 the finger of satan... When you look at ANOTHER mushroom cloud of a supercell, does it HINT TO YOU ANYTHING? Then just take dosimeters and run to check the gamma level))) Oppengamer was the first to believe in gamma weapons, then he convinced the generals of the HIDDEN power of weather weapons based on PULSE nuclear reactions...and then the race began for “weapons-grade” plutonium supposedly to counter the Soviets... that’s very briefly) The generals were also shocked, but Oppy easily convinced them of the reality of this thing. Then it’s a matter of technology and finance... Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" It is necessary to measure gamma AT THE BEGINNING of the supercell formation process - while the drones are ACTIVE. This is the first half hour. The plutonium core of the meteodrone generates powerful radial gamma pulses in the dew point layer and this gives the PRIMARY impetus to the entire process of creating a pressure/temperature gradient. Gamma radiation ionizes moist air, it condenses into a powerful cloud, a pressure gradient arises and the supercell mechanism is activated - warm air from all sides tends to the center of the format. Has anyone asked the feds why there is no PUBLIC network of radiology stations in the USA? In Canada it exists, and these stations show very interesting data when supercells pass over them...
@shawnharrison7596
@shawnharrison7596 21 күн бұрын
Apparently, based on how the Ward chamber model worked with multiple vortices it allowed for a center where there was a downward draft which could be a path to a seat for the funnel vortex to sit in. Wall cloud has negative-particles and the debris shaft has positive+particles thus 2 different fluid types that don't mix.
@zzzubmno2755
@zzzubmno2755 21 күн бұрын
It has been a while (25yrs) since I used ArcGis or mapping software. I do remember it would take many hours to make maps and predictive projections. It must have taking many long hours to make this simulation and some really cool software. Thanks for the vid, that was interesting.
@paulstejskal
@paulstejskal 21 күн бұрын
Wow this is awesome. Do we have simulations of a building supercell yet that leads to something like this? These storms have always been a curiosity to me. Another question is did you solve the io problem? Hopefully with SSDs it isn’t a problem now. I work in data storage too.
@ronniehobbs6031
@ronniehobbs6031 21 күн бұрын
Man this is exactly what I have been Looking for. I was struggling to visualize radar returns to how the tornado actually forms. It’s like he read my mind and gave an answer for everything I have ever wondered. Thank god for physics and science majors
@alexj835
@alexj835 21 күн бұрын
ILL - INI
@chironthefloof2920
@chironthefloof2920 21 күн бұрын
could you make a tutorial on how to do your own simulations with CM1? i don't have a supercomputer but i would love to be able to simulate my own tornadoes!
@beaverbuoy3011
@beaverbuoy3011 21 күн бұрын
!
@Nicolas-gp1br
@Nicolas-gp1br 22 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this simulation on youtube, it was very interesting to watch! This makes me wonder if there have ever been attempts to find initial conditions that produce extremely strong or wide tornadoes. The physical limits of tornado intensity is something that I am very curious about but there doesn't seem to be much research on that. Have there ever been simulations that tried to produce such extreme tornadoes?
@johnathondavis5208
@johnathondavis5208 23 күн бұрын
Can this be made to "crunch" via GPU for us users? Like Folding@Home, etc.?
@0ptimal
@0ptimal 24 күн бұрын
The stats show a very low chance of being hit by one, but i can tell you from experience if you live in tornado alley, the odds of dealing with a close call in a given year are pretty high. Even if they never actually drop one, those situations are frightening themselves. Having a massive radar indicated rotating supercell right over or aiming right for your home? Yet so many pay them little mind until they're there. No shelter, no plan, no awareness during tornadic events. I suppose thats a less stressful way to be but it does cost people. If there's a reasonable chance of one, im watching the radar until there's not. Even if it's overnight. Sleeping when there's a monster roaming the sky looking for a random place to annihilate? Hell no.
@alekverhovod
@alekverhovod 23 күн бұрын
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" & understand this message.
@maxmyzer9172
@maxmyzer9172 25 күн бұрын
It would be cool if you simulated what radar from the simulation would look like and compared it to the actual. Level 2 files have the exact time of each ray, so it is possible to do it precisely
@liceous
@liceous 25 күн бұрын
gorg
@Vito_Tuxedo
@Vito_Tuxedo 26 күн бұрын
Here's what I want to know: If you run this program multiple times does it always evolve in exactly the same way every time?
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch 25 күн бұрын
An excellent question, near and dear to my heart! It's also the same question I asked the engineers working on the Blue Waters supercomputer before it was fully built - I wanted to know, and their own answer was they didn't know! The short answer to your question about bit-perfect reproducibility is "yes" but only under specific circumstances. The CM1 model I use is compiled into a binary executable from source code (like all models that run on supercomputers). If I use the same exact binary I should get the same exact results, down to the very last bit, so bit-identical. I have verified this. However, a while back I tried to reproduce a simulation using a newly compiled version of the model and immediately saw that the solution was very slightly different, and the differences got larger over time (this is expected to happen with models like CM1 which simulate highly nonlinear phenomena). So what happened? Updates to the compiler and updates to the libraries on the supercomputer. The source code did not change, but the results were different in the least significant bits of data, and these small changes amplified over time, like the "butterfly flaps its wings" scenario. In science, reproducibility is considered monumentally important. You may have heard news stories where social science or medical studies cannot be reproduced (usually they involve human subjects). This has been called the "reproducibility crisis." In my world of cloud modeling, I am no longer so worried about this because any given simulation is just one out of a nearly infinite number of outcomes. I can always create a new simulation, and often times I get a very similar result (i.e., a big fat EF5 tornado that lasts a long time) even when I recompile the model or run the model on a different machine. I am always careful to point these things out, and the atmospheric science community I think generally understands this. It's also why the focus from specific individual simulations has changed to *ensembles* of simulations where you look at a bunch of simulations in slightly different environments/configurations and do statistics on them. In ensembles, it is hoped that the statistics will not change much even if each individual run may have changed. But it is especially challenging to do ensembles at the scale I typically run my simulations at, since my whole approach is to push the hardware very hard. So I kind of consider each simulation to be similar to an actual storm chase - with a storm chase you only get one shot on a storm. For super big simulations (like the 10 meter El Reno 2011 simulation I did on Blue Waters) I will never get that bit-perfect result if I run it again because the machine that I ran it on no longer exists, and there will be very slight differences in mathematical operations on a different machine.
@Vito_Tuxedo
@Vito_Tuxedo 25 күн бұрын
@@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch - Thanks for your reply. Alas, it doesn't *_unequivocally_* answer the question, for at least two reasons. One of them you mentioned-namely, you haven't had the opportunity to run the simulation on the same hardware twice. If the way the program runs is dependent on idiosyncrasies that vary from one machine to another, then it would be impossible to answer the question with any certainty. Let me back up and tell you why I've asked the question. I'm not concerned about a "reproducibility crisis". That's a concern only for physicists and others who deal with simple systems. You're dealing with a complex system; the Newtonian paradigm doesn't apply. The question is, have you truly succeeded in modeling a complex system? Now, if you run the program multiple times on the *_same_* hardware and you get exactly the same result every time, you haven't created a successful model of a complex system. From my perspective, it's a "boring" result. That's not a criticism, and it certainly isn't in any way a deprecation of the massive amount of ingenious work that you've obviously done to create these awesome and unique simulations. Nor is an assertion that these sims are not a giant leap forward in understanding tornadogenesis. I rather expect the opposite is true...
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 19 күн бұрын
​@@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch​ I might be wrong on this, but I don't suppose these kinds of models are great candidates for being run on GPU based supercomputers? I would guess there's too much interdependence between different data points for that to be efficient, but maybe I'm wrong on that. Do you think newer systems are moving in the direction that would let you realistically run multiple iterations of the same model (maybe with slight noise added to the input data or model constants) in the next few years?
@Vernon-gn9wb
@Vernon-gn9wb 10 күн бұрын
I love the fact that some of the stuff he's given acronyms to relates to some of my favorite animes
@Vernon-gn9wb
@Vernon-gn9wb 10 күн бұрын
I'd love to see an flcl vorticity
@erikp2004
@erikp2004 26 күн бұрын
Really cool
@coxric
@coxric 26 күн бұрын
May 24, 2011 was my first tornado intercept and man was it a doozy. Intercepted near Binger/Lookeba and the supercell stayed intact for so long that my parents' neighborhood west of Guthrie suffered damage. Fascinating model visualization. I learned more about supercell structure and dynamics watching this than in years of observations.
@alekverhovod
@alekverhovod 23 күн бұрын
Plutonium core based meteodrones use HIGH RADIATION GAMMA IMPULSE for provokation HUGE water condensed process in previosly still atmosphere...meansured, please), GAMMA LEVEL near typical "supercell" & understand this message.
@snoopyevans9447
@snoopyevans9447 26 күн бұрын
The scv can be hilighted in great detail with reed timmers recent Iowa tornado
@Cedartreetechnologies
@Cedartreetechnologies 26 күн бұрын
We indeed live in a complicated universe.
@Camaroman0710
@Camaroman0710 26 күн бұрын
AMAZING simulation data.
@KatBlueflame
@KatBlueflame 26 күн бұрын
Reed Timmer recorded a tornado at greenfield recently (it shows some wind turbines going down) but it shows the sub vortices talked about at 13 mins really well, and they look just like the model
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch 26 күн бұрын
Yup, you're not the first person to make the connection! Very cool stuff!
@pianomanforlife7
@pianomanforlife7 26 күн бұрын
You beat me to this comment by an hour lol. Skip talbot told me to check this video out after I noted the unique structure. I recall watching it a while back, but it was cool to revisit after being mesmerized by reeds footage. Being over an open dust field created a perfect real life example of the simulation! Great stuff!
@05macdonaldsmitha
@05macdonaldsmitha 18 күн бұрын
I was about to say the same thing and realised I'm 8 days late to the party! Was watching Ryan Hall's stream when it happened and had no idea how visibly striking the tornado actually was until the next day when Timmer uploaded the footage. Watching this video for the first time today having already seen Reed's video and the parallels are astonishing!
@johomoswitness
@johomoswitness 8 күн бұрын
That footage Reed got is some of the most hauntingly beautiful video I’ve ever seen. I was absolutely mesmerised by its structure.
@vimalneha
@vimalneha 27 күн бұрын
Superb description!
@Dude8718
@Dude8718 28 күн бұрын
Mr. Orf, I'm currently at a crossroads In my life but I think I want to go back to school and do science because that's what I love , but I'm not sure where to specialize. I was studying pharmacy before, I kinda want to study plants but I'm really interested in weather and tornadoes, always have been, and I love this new generation of computer modeling storms! I would love to do stuff like analyze models, and uncover mysteries in tornadoes. What would I want to study to go in this direction?
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch
@LeighOrfsThunderstormResearch 27 күн бұрын
Take a look at a typical undergraduate meteorology degree curriculum. 3 semesters of calculus, linear algebra, differential equations, 2 semesters of physics, 1 semester of basic chemistry. And of course all of the meteorology classes that are sequenced to work with the prereqs. It's been a while since I taught undergrad but I'm pretty sure that about covers it. If you are into computers, excellent, the more programming you know the better. One thing I have painfully realized is I am no 'true' software engineer, I'm a scientist who does a lot of scientific programming. Good luck.
@OMspot2277
@OMspot2277 Ай бұрын
12:50... Now watch the 3-31-23 Keota, Iowa monster. You can hear those RFD surges a few times. I also noticed that each RFD surge definitely had a direct correlation with that tornado's wind speed and mmotion becoming more violent. I also noticed the tornado stretching, and lagging behind the tornado just off the ground and into high up the supercell and mesocyclone. That RFD surge visibally got vacuumed right back into the updraft with incredibly violent motion. So much of the air right outside the tornado's vicinity seemed to just go right back up. But noticing behind the tornado just at the cloud base, the inflow was cracking as well, up into the mescyclone. The whole southern end of the storm, the hook, meso, seemed to wrap up tighter, possibly to keep up with the parent supercell. All that intense rising motion adding to the overall mesocyclone rotation as the tornado on the ground lagges behind the rest of the storm, and then the RFD surges happen and the tornado got more intense; or, the RFD surges happen because of a cause of the parent mesocyclone inflow; or, it could be a direct correlation with storm motion, which to me would make more sense. Interesting stuff.
@francistarasiewcz7759
@francistarasiewcz7759 Ай бұрын
You should use their song "Supercell" for your next project :)
@kaygerl9766
@kaygerl9766 Ай бұрын
I’m 64 years old and wish I was 18 again! I didn’t understand many of the terms but the simulations are fascinating and I would love to be inside your head! I have followed a full time storm chaser from here in WI for over 2 yrs (Vince Waelti) and have learned much from him and others. (Reed Timmer, Pacos Hank, Daniel Shaw). Thank you and go WI and go Badgers!