Clearly Dr White has never read Matthew 13 where it clearly says "they closed their eyes" "They stopped their ears"! Not God did it! They did it to themselves. Same gnostic garbage white spews everywhere he goes!

I love the how you Calvinist can't stand the notion that your gnostic way of bending scripture, and that no one can truly come to the saving knowledge of the truth. It is sad really that reformist have went all the way around their elbow to scratch their ego only to find that the position you have placed your self in theologically doesn't deliver, and in the end without true repentance and faith you will die in your sins. You need to really stop listening to these overeducated reform blowhards like sproul, james white, and many others.

James won and truth won.

what's the "it" in this verse? is it the burning that God hadn't considered, or was it commanding the burning that God hadn't considered?

what's the "it" in this verse? is it the burning that God hadn't considered, or was it commanding the burning that God hadn't considered?

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Soli Deo Gloria !

Watch the entire debate. Leighton won. The reason James White wants you to think the debate "ends here" is to manipulate you into thinking he is the winner.

Context is not about every individual person though but about who would be Jesus' disciple that God granted and drawn.

Jesus tasted death for every man…say it real slow

Like the chipmunks

The Great James White: “If i’m right, am I right?” Leighton Flowers:”Yes.” Calvinist everywhere:”Flowers just conceaded the debate. Our Titan of the faith is 2-0 against that man centered Pelagian.” Real compelling stuff coming from the Calvinist camp.

There you go Leighton just chalk it up to mystery when you don't have an answer to the problem in your view. That is just ignoring the issue with your view

Dr. Flowers, Tell us more about these "provisionist scholars" you speak of.

Flowers can just come up with hollow philosophy. Dumb arguments.

Any reading or understanding of God's Word that Impugns His Character and Nature in such a way that makes God EVIL is in itself EVIL...Calvinists do this to the uttermost...Gods Word the Bible is indeed Authoritative but not every persons reading of Scripture is...Shame on all Calvinists...

Athiest here. Still love hearing differnt peoples ideas even if some of them seem strange to me

I don't think this analogy works. Creating life is a work of God. We all know so many couples who wanted to have kids but could not. Even if husband and wife will to have kids, God must bring the life into this world.

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That's Pelagianism, Patrick! Canon of Orange CANON 1. If anyone denies that it is the whole man, that is, both body and soul, that was “changed for the worse” through the offense of Adam’s sin, but believes that the freedom of the soul remains unimpaired and that only the body is subject to corruption, he is deceived by the error of Pelagius and contradicts the scripture which says, “The soul that sins shall die” (Ezek. 18: 20); and, “Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are the slaves of the one whom you obey?” (Rom. 6: 16); and, “For whatever overcomes a man, to that he is enslaved” (2 Pet. 2: 19).

Luke 6:45 …… of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Jeremia 19:5 read something I have never commanded or mentioned; I never entertained the thought. CSB

are hitlers parents guilty based on your reason?

Useless syllables. What the?

Can God "cause" the human mind to have an imagination? An imagination which can *create* ideas from nothing?

Leighton Flowers continues to blatantly reject clear doctrines of the bible through analogies that cant be grounded in Gods word. The bible teacher that we are blind, and aslo that we close our eyes. Both concepts are true to describe the unregenerate. Leighton Flowers rejects that we are blind. Boy sometimes i question of this man is even a Christian, not gonna l🙄 😒

God: let us make man in our image and likeness Man: *eats the fruit and eyes opened* God: Behold the man has become like us, knowing Good and evil (implying they weren't in the full likeness of his being prior) Mission accomplished, get clapped Satan. Everything you wanted through self exaltation and sitting in the congregation of the north and to be like the most high. God will send his son to graft in the ones you made to fall and give them everything you sought for yourself selfishly. His son will teach man how to do and be good and offer them crowns of gold and a seat in the mount of God to be like the most high and teach them to not be like you.

Mr Flowers' beliefs don't smell too good.

Wow. More calvinists vs provisionist. Let's just divide ourselves even more. That's always a good thing

Provisionism is just him rewording pelagianism.

I can’t figure out whether he’s a ConMan or stupid. Well, now I’m leaning towards stupid again.

Stop teasing us already and come out with another hour plus video! lol

Ouch! Good catch.

I still can’t figure out whether this guy is stupid or a Conman. Maybe he’s a stupid con man. All you have to do is let the man speak for 10 minutes and the stupid just jumps out of the screen.

Free will = ignorance

he's like five iq points above actual retard

I feel like people that think this is a gotcha moment are seriously lacking common sense. What IF I am right on what I just said then would it not be true you people lack common sense and are flawed humans. Well if you are right then yes we all lack common sense and are stupid. Haha see the moment my question stumped you all.

I would like a list of “provisionist” scholars that he’s talking about. He said he doesn’t like acronyms, but then he made up an acronym, and even made a T-shirt with the acronym on it

Their whole theology is nothing more than a theory, it could be this or this but it cant be Calvinism in any provisionist mind, anything but that...sad.

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Imagine if the person Jesus said that to responded with “well, Jesus, that’s not true, because you just committed the ad hominem fallacy” Jesus was not a nice guy. Nor was he cordial. Nor were the apostles nice guys or cordial. If they were, they wouldn’t have been murdered for what they said and the way they said it Flowers is no different than Kenneth Copeland. He’s a liar and a con man. To say otherwise would be withholding the truth.

The goal of Adam and Eve is to instill fear for going against the clergy. It could have taught folks to take responsibility for their actions, but instead goes on to justify the need for sacrifices. It's another version of Pandora's Box.

You rock brother! I have learned so much from you. My first listen to you was a 5 hour video I sat through in 1 take and was truly impressed. Keep it up.

2 false teachers arguing about there falseness

1 Peter 1:19, 20. The fall isn't plan a. There is no plan b. It's just the plan

He proves in this video that he has a low view of sin. Talking about a pagan able to resist temptation, it doesnt even come into his mind that even resisting temptation FOR THE WRONG REASONS is sin in and of itself. For him, sin is just outward actions. Stuff other people could find out about. It never dons on him that even the "good" someone does is tainted by sinful desires, motivations, etc.

Revelation says all in it would happen soon then Jesus in Revelation almost 2000 years ago said he was coming back soon then.Matthew 16:28 says "some of you standing here(then) would not taste death until you see hin come in his kingdom, Philippians 4:9 Paul says to the Philippians,let YOUR gentleness be known to all,the Lord is near. Paul to the Thessalonians , May God preserve your Body,Soul,and Spirit,until the coming of the Lord. Seems ,either,your Bible is lying or the "church" has no clue what they are talking about about. Jesus said he was coming back in the apostles generation. It is definitely that the so called church knows nothing of what they say,and they will not change from their religion to the truth for anything. Firstly,you are not the church. You live in a completely different age,after reconciliation. You and your false prophets have made thousands of false prophecies and have done it since the end of the Law. This one's the anti Christ,no that one,666 is this,no it's that,the beast is Russia,no America,maybe China,the anti Christ is Hitler,no it's Obama,no Trump, on and on ,mocking God with every doctrine you hold. Every doctrine you say the Bible is wrong and you are right. Jesus said the gospel would be preached to the world,then the end would come. Your Bible tells you the gospel went to the world,Colossians 1,Romans 10:17-18. Get the picture? You are still saying the gospel has to go to the end of the world,lol.put in all in a big picture,and ask your self why so many are against "Christianity". Jesus said the end would come when the gospel went. You say he was lying or was wrong. He did come,verified by people then,and ancient historians. He came in a cloud just like he said he would. He said he would come the same way as he left at the ascension and he did. He came to end the old covenant,the law,to destroy Jerusalem and the temple,just as he said he would throughout the so called new testament. He talked of judgement on Israel throughout . He explained the signs of his coming in Matthew 24,Luke 21,and Mark 13,and all he said would happen is one hundred percent proven through history,the temple stones still laying in Jerusalem as he said would happen at his coming. Oh well ,your "scholars" say,that was just a picture of what is coming soon after 2000 years. Really? What is he still coming for? Please tell. Is he going to still judge people now for sin which your book says ended at the cross? Hebrews 9 Jesus came to put away sin,period,Galatians 4:4-5, God sent forth his son,made under the law, to redeem those under the law. You under the law? Romans 4:15,where there is no law there is no sin. You don't believe it? Is he going to come in rapture when Paul tells you plainly,and others that it happened then,some of you will not taste death til you see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Jesus told those that would be believers at his coming to flee Judea and go to a place prepared for THEM. They were never seen again as easily proven through writers in history. You going to flee to Judea? You see a resurrection in Matthew 25,the ,you have the 144000 souls waiting under the altar,waiting to go to heaven ,and Jesus tells them ,just a little while longer until the rest who had to die ,to die for their witness for Christ. The temple destroyed,no altar left so where did they go. You come up with crap like a third temple has to be built to protect your futuristic fables and it is nowhere in the Bible. Also,the church was to take the gospel to the world. The apostles and the church then were given the great commission. Not you. The people with the Holy Spirit who were chosen to take the gospel could not die until the gospel went out. They could handle serpents,drink any poisonous things and it would not harm them,take the gospel in foreign country and speak their language without learning it,raise the dead,heal all manner of illness,and you are the church? Please. Then you are to still tell people that they are sinners when Jesus ended sin,to take the gospel to the world when it already happened. Sin was part of the law. Jesus said he came only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then we have the fact that your book says that God,through Jesus reconciled the world to himself. He didn't just end sin,he reconciled us back to before the fall. NO SIN. You since Jesus death are reconciled to God,or did he lie again? The veil was torn in two in the temple at Jesus death revealing the holy of holies. The high priest alone could only go in behind the veil to fellowship with God. When that veil was torn it symbolizes our new relationship with God. The result of the fall was separation from God,the result of reconciliation,the curse of Adam was lifted and we can go without a mediator as the high priest was,and as Jesus was for the Jews,the way made clear back to God,to worship and fellowship with him and him alone. Guess what. You don't want it. You still want sin and the law and to drag people right down under it with you. You read a book that came out originally around 1300,supposedly translated from the original letters of Paul,Luke and others and they didn't have the letters. Letters,from 2000 years ago,put in a highly mistranslated book ,sent out to the masses ,still in present tense,and you read it after all that time and pretend words like,we,you,they,those,them are talking of us now. Really? Even though it says call in Revelation is to happen soon then,it means it will happen soon for you. You see that Jesus fulfilled all things written about himself and you say no it's a lie. You see endless verses of his coming to be soon then,and no it's soon 2000 years later. Why? We have been reconciled. You have not claimed that in 2000 years and are dragging people back under sin and the law which was a curse unto death. Before sin,there was evil. Sin was of the law and of the flesh,evil was and is of the heart. Your Bible says sin which was of the law,the trespass of the law, and that Jesus condemned sin in the flesh,and that Jesus came to put away sin. He lied? Here is a major fact of why you better get your head out of the sand,and stop listening to people telling you that you are sinners and going to hell,and stop sending other people to a curse. Right here! Jesus your Bible says did a short work on earth. Jesus,your Bible says returned to heaven and submitted himself to God. Jesus,your book says delivered the kingdom once taken by Satan in the garden back to God. All power and authority that God gave Jesus was given back as he submitted and delivered the kingdom back to God. Then,your book,yours, says that Jesus did all this so God could now be All and In ALL. You without doubt know evil and good. Your heart tells you not to lie,steal,deceive,hurt,assault,murder..... and you know it's wrong . God is all and in all. You have a God conscience,you know wrong and right ,good and evil. You are not made in anyway to have to do evil,and guess what. You are reconciled back to God. You should celebrate it and thank God you see now that all those old things have passed away,sin,the law,death hell and the grave defeated. You are reconciled,God is all and in all. Flee evil,do good,worship God and God alone,or do you want sin,death and condemnation still to rule you? God is all and in all. You get no new revelation from an old book. God has always given revelation to man when he desired to. Not a book. Nobody in the Bible had a bible. Thank about that. Jesus is to be on David's throne forever,think about it. Not God's throne. Flee evil,do good, trust God for knowledge and revelation,ask Him for truth. It's He,It's You,and it's evil or it's good and God. Think about it hard. Start reading you book right. It was not to you. The letters were written to people almost 2000 years ago. I,me,we,they.. none of it to you. What your book tells you is that sin,death,hell and the grave,gone. God and you,here now. Do Good,worship God and when you come to know him and you know you know him,it's unlike anything you can imagine. God and God alone. Peace. God. On you. God and You.

So... Assuming for the sake of argument that a god exists... God deliberately set mankind up to fail. And then blamed and punished us for that inevitable failure. Doesn't sound like a god I would want to spend an eternity with.

Flowers is a warning for others, showing the dangers of liberal thinking.

So that we may know the difference between good and evil. Otherwise we would just have to take God's word for it that he is good.

We're talking about Adam so we just have to ask what was the state of Adam prior to God placing the tree? God created the trees on the third day and God created Adam and Eve on the sixth day.