It saddens me that you feel so negatively towards us Poles. I have only positive feelings towards the Irish. Since 2016, the Polish population has dropped by 25% in Ireland to return to Poland, so perhaps if this trend continues, and in all likelihood it will, you will have your wish and we Poles will not be such an apparent burden to the Irish. In spite of poverty and in spite of wounds, you and all Irish people are forever welcome in Poland, same as you once welcomed us. 🇵🇱🥀❤️‍🩹🇮🇪☘️

@@Konrad9119 Poles look down on the Irish- they think we're stupid, lazy and have a smug superiority and who could blame them considering we fought for independence for 800 years to expel invaders and are now welcoming them in with zero borders and allowing our own culture and traditions to become extinct. At least Poland had the sense not to give in to EU diktats.

@@Konrad9119 Irish people dont feel any negatively towards the Poles, by and large we consider them warmly, they certainly are much better guests than others who are barely in the country a wet day and are seeking political power and the chance to increase their fellow ethnics size and immigration here.

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Jen-lg4hpI wish you were more familiar with Poland. I think you’d find us to be much more similar to the Irish than you realize. We are even stereotyped the same way. My whole life I’ve heard the stereotype of the “stupid Polack,” backed up by falsities such as the claim that Polish horsemen charged at German tanks during WW2. I imagine you’ve even heard this false claim before.

⁠​⁠@@mactirethesonoflir1536Perhaps this is so, but if the comments here are any indication of the Irish attitude towards us Poles being in their country, I must admit that I don’t feel as though I’d be welcomed. This is okay, it is what it is. It is the right of the Irish to say who can and cannot reside in their nation even if that means not us.

They took the Judas money when they spent the past 4 years telling us to wash our hands. Anyone with any sense has washed THEIR hands of the corrupt anti-Irish globalist media long ago!

They did a report on it . They underestimated the turnout by about 20,000 while increasing the counter protest by a factor of about 4 Their report refers to " several hundred " at the demonstration ( there was at least 20,000 there) and " 200 counter protesters " ( people were able to count about 50 ) All this from a supposedly paper of record

“Polish politics and influences” are not what caused Poland to become such an impoverished country in the 90’s and early 2000s. I will put this in some context. You I’m sure are aware of the Irish potato famine and the profound, reverberating effects of it, yes? Poland essentially faced a crisis on this scale at least every other generation. The Deluge is estimated to have resulted in the loss of around 30-50% of the population. We of course also famously went 123 years completely stateless, finally receiving our nation back in the aftermath of WW1 from the ashes of the three dead empires that partitioned us. The difficulty in unifying a Polish people that had been disunited for 123 years, living under three distinct and separate empires, each with their own separate currency, laws, and customs, cannot be understated and still effect Poland today. Compound this difficulty with the reality of Poland having to defend against the Russian Bolsheviks alone not even a year into the life of this new Polish state. We won thanks only to the Miracle at the Vistula, sparing Europe of the Communist threat that was intent on forcibly pushing their worldwide revolution. We of course would then be the lucky nation that experienced the full brunt of the Wehrmacht’s cruelty and again the Bolshevik. I need not mention the holocaust I imagine, but this too had an obvious effect, being beat out only by the Deluge in terms of the scale of loss. Then after our sacrifice fighting for the allies in every front of WW2 and being abandoned by our “allies”, We then of course had the added pleasure of living under a godless, communist regime that kept us a colony totally subservient to Moscow with zero control over our own industry. Finally with the fall of the Soviet Union, we again became a free country, though the absolute poorest in Europe, and so yes, many Poles fled Poland which was experiencing shocking hyperinflation and unemployment rates of over 20% at the time. How far we’ve come since then, admittedly not in small part due to EU funding, but we’ve effectively and responsibly used these funds instead of squandering them with the expectation that we will one day become contributors as opposed to beneficiaries of EU funding. Your question of why we had to flee seems rather silly from my perspective. We fled for much of the same reasons the Irish fled during the potato famine. Necessity. Ironically given what you’re saying, The Irish are also famous for ingratiating themselves into American politics, Kennedy being the most obvious. This seems a double standard, no?. I will say however, there is credibility to Polish politics being the cause of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth’s eventual demise, principally because of the Liberum Veto, but this is too complicated a subject to delve into here and you likely don’t care either way, which is of course fair.

@@Konrad9119 Your whole point is telling me why the Polish had to move here… I understand that obviously & welcome them all who needed assistance back then, that is completely beside the point. The question is why do the Polish need Polish politicians in the Irish government to feel represented? JFK had Irish heritage but he was a multi-generation American, born in America & represented the whole country. He didn’t campaign for Irish traditions or languages or special treatment for the Irish because he represented everyone. My point in the end isn’t a trying to come across as a malicious one because if the Polish feel like the government is doing a bad job, then that’s the government’s fault & it must be fixed. But the solution of having anyone in power who isn’t born in this country (regardless of their ethnicity) is dangerous because it can very easily replicate how Israel came to exist. If anyone can just run for government office, how long before a group of people can move by the 100,000s to one area, then control the area by running for government & all of a sudden laws can change & before we know it we can have separatists in our own country. Partition wars are all too common throughout history & foreign interference whether State sanctioned or otherwise is common too like what Russia does in Ukraine. Ireland must be remain wholly Irish regardless of where you come from which means integration, not setting up different ethnic states within the border with their own local governments that don’t represent everyone

@@themarketm8382 Yes… my whole point was why the Polish moved there. This is exactly what you asked in your first sentence if I’m understanding my English correctly, no? You asked, “If Polish politics and influences were so great for another country than Poland, then why must they flee here.” I believe I answered this question, no? I don’t believe this was beside the point, but in fact the whole point. I pointed all this out to express the fact that it wasn’t mere Polish incompetence that led to Poland’s previously dire economic situation, as you seem to be suggesting in your original statement. Another note, Poles are no longer “fleeing” to Ireland as it is sadly no longer a desirable destination to live. As I pointed out, since 2016, 25% of Poles left to return to Poland. What might this suggest about the current Irish government and the direction things are going that the situation has become what it has become? That I don’t believe is my place to answer. I said in another comment that I for one don’t see this as an issue in Ireland at all, but merely a matter that got brought up simply because this marks Poland’s 20th year in the EU, but I do take issue with what your insinuations were in your original comment in regards to the Polish ability to govern, or apparent inability based on the idea that Poles felt the need to leave their home country. This is nonsense. I believe it is fair to say that we Poles historically didn’t exactly get dealt the greatest hand. I believe this to be certainly true of the Irish as well. In fact, Irish receive similarly negative stereotypes in their governing ability, hence the saying, “If the Dutch lived in Ireland, they’d feed the world; and if the Irish lived in Holland, they’d drown.” I imagine this isn’t something you agree with, nor would I. There exists a similarly disparaging expression, “a Polish Parliament,” used to reference to something that is chaotic and or ineffective, a reference to the Liberum Veto I mentioned previously and the disastrous, unintended results of it for the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, results that hopefully the EU can take a lesson from because the apparatus that enabled the destruction of the Commonwealth is very much prevalent in the EU as well. I would dare say that the Poles and Irish are two people that uniquely share the same boat in many ways. As stated, we are the people that others feel very comfortable poking fun at, we share a similar history of resistance against foreign occupation, and I believe their even exist an Irish Scythian origin myth, very much similar to how the Poles claim to descend from the ancient Sarmatians of antiquity, whom were the closest related people to the Scythians.

@@themarketm8382 Allow me to add that I am in fact very sympathetic to the desire to ensure that Ireland remains an Irish majority country. I imagine the perspective is similar to the Polish one. We didn’t go through 123 years of statelessness, a holocaust, and all the hardships of communist rule just to give it all up. What is it they say, Poland will have her borders, even if it’s on the last map humanity ever draws.

@@Konrad9119 I think we got our English mixed up then. I have no problem at all with Polish people being here, nor anyone for that matter. If I was to say things a different way... I meant that the Polish came here for a variety of reasons and you have to accept that is because the Irish has a system built and continues to build a system that affords them a better life. Regardless of whether Polish candidates have good ideas or politics or not is what is beside the point. You can't try and change what we've built to suit you and your customs or influence our politics on another trajectory. If Polish-Irish candidates who are born here, have integrated and want to represent everyone in the community, then that is fair enough. But people of different nationalities can't come in, change our system to something they like, don't represent us and then call us nazi's for saying we want to ensure what afforded them that ability in the first place is protected. How would Poland feel if 1,000,000 Russians moved to Warsaw, elected a Russian mayor, then spread pro-Russian policies throughout the country and before you know it you have a separatist region like Ukraine and a war is sparked. It's not a wild thought when you consider how many pro-Iranian axis Arabs have moved to the West and march in the millions for Hamas/Gaza? What do politicians think is going to happen if war starts with Iran and all of a sudden we have civil war and sabotage groups operating?

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With that logic, Ireland should close the border.

poles are a large minority in Ireland.

Not another wannabe irish😂

Haughey was one of the worst things to happen to IRL apart from bertie and varadkar. BAD men.

And Enda Kenny