WoU, Soft and wet have a chance to win* GER: full body frog armour…

Alr let me clear this up both TA4 and S&W:GB beat GER as you know all the info we have on GER is before these were even known or created so yeah let’s talk about how TA4 and S&W:GB can beat GER so basically for TA4 since infinity has no start nor end it can’t revert it hence dying from infinite rotation (this is put in simple word btw lol) and S&W:GB we don’t know how much dmg it does really and people do theorize that the GB bubble goes at immeasurable or infinite speed aswell so yeah 👍

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couldn't king crimson erase the results of the calamities affecting the user, and possibly use the erased time to get closer to tooru/wonder of u?

100% agree with you

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I think that sptw and tw could also defeat ger since they stop time. I don't think that rtz can acrivate in stopped time. Rtz defeated kc's time erasure ability but in kc's case time for everyone else still flows. But in dio and jotaro's world time itself stops for everyone else. In the duration of stopped time they could kill Giorno and the flow of time would continue. That is unless GER can detect someone's intent to hurt giorno and returns to zero before time is stopped.

You can’t beat the power of no. GER is unbeatable by any ability it’s the equivalent of a 5 year old on a playground saying “no you didn’t” during a play fight.

Don’t forget The World Over Heaven

ts neggs imo

You've made a crucial misunderstanding here - GER resets *events* to zero, not attacks. GER's death loop is caused because it constantly resets the event of their death to zero, causing them to never actually die. This is stated in the manga (and IIRC somewhere in the anime). Giorno himself is not aware of this happening (GER literally says this out loud). Also, GER undoes Diavolo splashing blood onto Giorno's eyes (despite that not actually hurting Giorno), which means it affects anything that disadvantages Giorno, not just things that directly harm him. This shows a few crucial things: 1. RTZ is completely automatic 2. RTZ affects anything that *disadvantages* Giorno, not just harms him (eg. blood being splashed on his eyes) 3. RTZ is able to reset things that have nothing to do with Giorno (eg. somebody else dying) 4. RTZ is able to reset events, not just attacks (eg. a person's death) (note: several of the deaths are accidents so this isn't just Giorno resetting an attack) So, by category: 1. Death 13 can't fight without GER being active because GER works independently of Giorno 2. Osiris/Atum/Boys II Man can't take Giorno's soul, Anubis can't possess him, Enigma can't turn him into paper, Atom Heart Father can't capture him, Jail House Rock can't erase his memories, Cheap Trick can't get on his back, D4C can't cause paradoxes, Tusk can't apply spin to him in the first place (or even get on the horse) (These things disadvantage Giorno even though they don't directly harm him) 3/4. Bites The Dust can't explode Giorno, SCR can't mess with his soul, C-Moon can't make accidents happen with gravity, Love Train can't redirect misfortune onto him, WoU's calamities can't hurt him (these are events that harm/disadvantage Giorno, even though somebody isn't deliberately doing it) The only stands which might have a case here are Made In Heaven (because for one reason or another, Giorno can't seem to affect its ability despite the above), and Soft and Wet (because it seemingly doesn't trigger "catch all" abilities like WOU)

thing about johnny and his tusk is after he unlocked act 4, he didnt need his horse or anything to even use him

The only stand that can beat GER is twoh. You would have to have some ability to warp or overwrite reality in order to beat it something that no stand has in canon Jojo. Sorry GER haters but it’s the truth

Did we ever see enough to know what counts as a threat to GER

"Giorno can only revert attacks directed towards him" *proceeds to ignore Giorno reverting stuff that isn't an attack (time erase leaves falling from a tree birds flying in the sky and of course, Diavolos death)*

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what the flip rn

ok ok hear me out *stops time, snaps Giorno's neck and removes it from his body, time resumes, Giorno already dead therefore no GER to RT0*

Hey ya could've stopped Pucci fortunately for him he didn't exist

Step one: the world Step two: heaven plan Step three: profit

Well, do not forget, DIO OVER HEAVEN.

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wouldnt cream beat ger? when vanilla ice is in the void he is controlling the ball outside but he isnt in the same dimension so his will isnt attached to thr void ball and therefore he could theoretically hit and destroy ger, but tusk can move to other dimensions and so it would be able to. unless u count going into the void as an offensive attack

3:26 'actions'. We see RTZ work on leaves and bullets. Objects are also reverted.

wou and go beyond dont win this is why, first lets start with wonder of u, yes it has passive calamity for people going after it but he doesn't bring up the fact it cant cause calamities if its going after you which almost let rai one of the weakest stand users beat wou, wou is completely over rated and has so much misinformation around its abilities. ger would win bc not only would calamities have 0 affect but giorno can still move towards wou without anything interfering. now for soft and wet go beyond, when go beyond attacks wonder of u its being guided by paisley park bc its almost none existent gappy cant control where it goes, so not only do we not know if it truly does defy logic even though its only shown slightly less potent abilities as tusk 4 but its definitely not even a 15% hit chance. I just don't see any current stand beating GER unless jodio gets an insanely op ability or gappy learns how to control his go beyond bubbles and they actually display the lack of logic they are claimed to have.

wait till giorno sleeps and shoot him ezpz

This makes a lot of sense

i would say "counter argument: bohemian rhapsody" but hey ya is truly the strongest stand and i cannot argue with this.

but can it beat goku

Uhh wonder of u and other stuff go

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Screw stands bring Hermes here he packs up this old fart

Hot take: Star Platinum bullies GER

Hey so I agree on ger not being the strongest but how do you explain the leaves reverse back up on the trees if it’s only supposed to be the actions and will power of a person?

The calamity that counters star and the world is time stopping for them too hahaha

Does Wonder of U only limited to outside calamities? I’d think it’s likely to assume that the calamities from WOU can also be within your body, i.e sudden heart failure, taking a unlucky step and breaking your foot, and sudden brain aneurysm If this is the case, I’d think timestop and green green grass of home would be very susceptible to WoU I’d also think Tusk act 4 wouldn’t be able to beat WoU as it’s a theorized that Johnny died from the flow of calamity and that Johnny’s infinite spin doesn’t seem to spin fast enough to become “nothing” to hit WoU in the first place

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counterargument for star platinum: he can unintentionally bump into things, and have something similar to what happened to mamezuku. we know that calamities also include mistakes from when josuke lost control of soft and wet temporarily, which killed mamezuku. this fact pretty much eliminates jotaro as an option entirely, since something like a chair destroying his leg would likely take him out from bleeding if not additional calamities. dio is a good candidate though, he could tank it, regen, and abuse the long time stop.

ALOT of people are arguing about this which is pretty funny. It’s some main points a I wanna discuss to debunk this: -GER has no stats, it’s stated as a stand that surpasses all stands. However this is before the existence of WOU, Tusk, D4C yadda yadda. Some people for whatever reason scales GER (some scaled to star platinum lmao). GER again, does not have stats, you cannot compare him to anything, you don’t know how much he can tank, you don’t know much damage output he can muster. It is insanely fast due to futuresight needed to “dodge” him. -Return to zero, it is an ability that warps reality and reverts everything back to zero. An action performed or in the process of being performed has never or never will be performed because it was returned to the existence of before the action was performed. RT0 is a passive automatic ability, diavolo DID NOT HIT GER at all for it to work. Whether it’s always active is unknown, however it reverts all actions to zero that can affect GER. For those arguing TIMESTOP remember GER was fighting in TIME SKIP, which is an ability that skips and is incomprehensible outside of anyone that doesn’t have the ability itself. Such is timestop, it looks like teleportation but it’s just moving in a different reality or dimension exclusive to a certain stand comprehension. When RT0 was active, not only it nullified time skip but it was moving during time skips process. Which is like weird to explain. The important part is that it was unaffected doing as it pleased. So timestop wouldn’t work. My point is if RT0 is active and causes a zero affliction response, then no ability can affect it. But hey, that’s just my opinion. It’s a theory TL;DR The only stand that can lay a finger on GER is SWGB, because soft and wet does not attack the user with its attack, you sorta run into it on accident or something. However it can still damage other people, therefore nobody literally knows if RT0 works here.

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i can’t believe people still over scale ger after it was already debunked, ger fans refuse to cope

That's me before seeing the vid, it's totally impossible to defeat ger cuz of its nullification and absolute 0

If what you said about Requiem is true, then Time Erasure should not have been reset, only Diavolo's actions. Erasing Time does not inherently harm the opponent. The ability makes the user invincible, and the user can manually end the ability, or it stops at 10 seconds. Additionally, Diavolo has to manually deactivate Time Erase to attack someone. In every instance we see in a fight, he sets up an attack, and as soon as his ability ends, the attack hits someone. A condition of his ability is that he cannot affect/harm individuals doing it. So Diavolo's intent to harm, was enough to make GER reset his ability, in addition to his actions. It's based on the concept of intent to harm, similar to WOU. Anyone, regardless of their abilities, if they have intent to harm Giorno, it will be reset. Anyone who attacks by conventional means, will be reset. There is also argument to be made that RTZ will permanently disable your stands abilities. Diavolo was unable to use Epitaph and Time Erase after his ability was reset, and couldn't defend himself with King Crimson because he was severely outclassed in speed and power. Both D'arby stands, Ken Oyanagi (the rock paper scissors kid), Anubis (attacks by conventional means, and wouldn't be able to possess Giorno because of GER's ability), Terunosuke Miyamoto (Enigma), Yoshihiro Kira (Still attacks you indirectly to cause harm) and Miu Miu's Jail House Lock. The ones that are really stupid, are C-Moon and Killer Queen. It Literally has to attack you for the inversion to work, and the gravity can also be counted as an offensive attack), and Killer Queen's "Bites the dust" causes direct harm to anyone who tries to find out Kira's name, all of Killer Queen's abilities kill you. D4C is another one. To be affected by the misfortune, you have to attack the Love Train first. It's a purely defensive ability. And because the mistfortune has a chance to come back to you, if that does happen, it gets reset because it is an attack. Basically everything you listed still uses their attacks conventionally with intent to harm, so all their actions and abilities would be reset. The only actual abilities you mentioned that have a chance against GER are S&W and Act because they are fundamentally different. Their abilites touch concepts that are fundamentally impossible, which is an argument to be made. The rest are either direct or indirect offensive abilities, that would get reset. If Time Erase (a non offensive ability, that can be used offensively) can be reset, why cant the other ones be reset?

Does xa hando count since it erases anything he wants cuz if he is erased then that means he cant go back jts also a direct attack

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