![[3.25] My plans for league start and some bleed PoB cooking](/img/o.gif)
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@innerblaze420 Ай бұрын
Up next! On Bleed Storm report!! With your host UmeChrono
@ytloginn Ай бұрын
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@Gorectomy Ай бұрын
LOGIN see you on the beach fellow sunderchad
@faederSSF Ай бұрын
LMAO
@alejandrobobadilla2232 Ай бұрын
Hi!, jagged technique benefits corrupting fever? Kinetic blast+ corrupting fever gladiator is a option for league starter? Thanks for the video!!!
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Nope and nope. CF is dead. R.I.P.
@alejandrobobadilla2232 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono :(
@innerblaze420 Ай бұрын
Patop do you have a discord server? If not wanna join mine?, we recently gained some attraction and i can give you a special tag which might help u expand further. Plus your knowledge of bleed will be good for community
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@innerblaze420 I do, but it only has 2 people who discuss bleed stuff 25 hours a day, so sure, why not. My nickname on discord is UmeChrono.
@UndeadHermit Ай бұрын
I only play bleed too. Let me subscribe to you friend.
@floccinauci Ай бұрын
Привет, потренил блейдшторм через дуалы с утяжелителями до патча, всё классно, но вопрос: как заскейлить урон без перфект агони, чтобы на красных мапах через эксплоуды комфортно и быстро было? Спасибо за видео, хорошо говоришь
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Как минимум нужен Jack, the axe, и хоть в новом патче это не протестить, но аггравейт очень сильно поможет с клиром, ибо у кримсон денса очень всё плохо с клиром из-за 50% меньше урона от блида и невозможности увеличивать урон если противник двигается. Так же желательно иметь 5-ти линк хотя бы ну и лвл так 85 наверное, чтоб прям все ноды на урон лучшие взять. Короче сейчас хер протестишь это. P.S. Прости за столь поздний ответ, я совсем забыл ответить.
@floccinauci Ай бұрын
@@umechrono Спасибо, как раз в этом направлении и думал; пиши еще видео, у тебя по блидам тут кладезь инфы.
@Jackstrap9 Ай бұрын
Can you use precise technique if you spec a little bit in accuracy?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@Jackstrap9 PT doesnt affect bleed.
@Gorectomy Ай бұрын
I dont think fortify is gonna feel good on sunder with the lack of attack speed
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I mean its fine, sunder deals more than enough damage with hits, so fortify will proc consistently even on bosses if you keep hitting them and dont just wait for warcry + fist of war every time.
@Peter-wb7he Ай бұрын
Not getting hatchet master in the lacerate setup seems odd to me...also somebody did the math on crimson dance and it's kinda shit compared to aggravate until extremely high attack speeds. Not going to be worth going crimson dance over aggravate on league start.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Yeah, you're right. The more PoB's I'm making the more I can see how crimson dance is worth only in later setups.
@handsomeben9504 Ай бұрын
Could this easily be modified for an EQ Bleed build? I love the idea of a max block bleed slammer but I'm terrible at making my own builds
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Technically yeah, the problem is that EQ is better than sunder only if you use the alt gem and scale duration. I will be putting out a few more build ideas later this week, so stay tuned, maybe my kitchen-burning PoB cooking videos will satisfy your needs.
@handsomeben9504 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono Thank you! Looking forward to your other builds.
@ShadoxLL9 Ай бұрын
When should i swap into Lacerate in act? helix is way too good and lacerate feel like shit early
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I honestly have no idea when is the best time to swap to lacerate, because I've never swapped into it during acts. I'd think that the best course of action would be helix till act 6-7, then spec into sunder and then somewhere in white/yellow maps, once you get jack, the axe and rigwalds savagery - spec into lacerate.
@ShadoxLL9 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono Thanks a lot , i hope jack the Axe doesn't become too expensive then.
@juuuuuuug01 Ай бұрын
Do not use fortify on a bleed build, you'll get 0 stacks. You can also potentially ignore crimson dance entirely even on Lacerate and instead rely entirely on the 10% chance to aggravate from the tree, 10% from vuln quality and whatever amount we'll get on eldritch implicits and instead of having to keep attacking for crimson dance just wait for the highest bleed and for aggravate.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I'll just ignore the fortify part of the comment because I dont even know what to say to that... The aggravation over crimson dance might actually work, but I would assume that fast attacking skills like lacerate would benefit from crimson dance's higher dps ceiling anyway.
@juuuuuuug01 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono Wdym ignore it? Try it on a standard character, the hit damage you deal with a bleed build, especially lacerate where the effective DPS is carried not by its DE but by its bleed multiplier, is extremely small and will not be able to consistently get enough stacks for it to be worth a support gem. It's even worse the more you progress because your hit damage will stay more or less the same.
@xenvakt300995 Ай бұрын
Would you be putting out a bleed bow buold by any chance?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Probably not, but I can make a PoB for you.
@xenvakt300995 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono oh that'd be great! Would it be possible to do an early game and a t16s general farming pob? I will definitely play duelist to try other melee stuff as slayer/glad charge stacking with Ralakesh after a few weeks.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@xenvakt300995 Yeah sure. Just a warning, with bleed bow its hard to go fast, so I'd recommend not rushing and paying a lot of attention to gearing up. P.S. Another problem is that you'd have to wait till cruel lab to spec into bleed bow.
@xenvakt300995 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono got it, no problem at all. I can play some spectral throw till then hahah
@umechrono Ай бұрын
This would be your "Out of acts" PoB: pobb.in/ATiu0DGUmTTx And this would be a lvl 90 +- red maps PoB:pobb.in/lPSdnX2iHRe8 Some of the gear requirements for lvl 90 red map pob might be too high, because I've put in the gear according to my standards of trade league, but that should be a decent template for you to strive for. After that, you could start adding phys clusters, inspirational node through forbidden jewels, get double dot quiver, get a rare body armour with suppression, chaos res and some armour/evasion, get ailment avoidance through ancestral vision + implicit on boots + craft on body armour, etc etc etc...
@Pulepticon Ай бұрын
didnt mark say in the interview that ensnaring wont increase bleed dmg so you dont have to swap from 2 hander to bow ?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Yeah. Why?
@Vulgaels Ай бұрын
From all data so far- double strike and perforate are also great for bleed and trauma double strike of impale could be bobkers. In total end game wr will all scale impale and bleed especially if you go perfect agony
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Nah, not true. Double strike is very bad for bleed application as well as it has less damage than other skills due to lack of any bleed multipliers and/or lower added damage ratio. Trauma double strike could go bonkers, but again, its a shit skill to apply bleed with. I have way easier time imagining boneshatter being good for that.
@Vulgaels Ай бұрын
Tempest Rising enjoyers arise! I am really wondering since bleed and aggravated bleed are now 2 differenr debufs/events if tempest rising will work on the non aggravated bleed on nok gladiator ascendancy. By all data it seems it might make it imba
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Tempest rising could replace the need for aggravation for your bleeds, so it could be a substitution for that when playing bleed on non-glad ascendancies.
@Vulgaels Ай бұрын
@umechrono well it seems by the wording of today's q and a that bleed and aggravated bleed are 2 seperate ailments. You can have a normal bleed amd aggravated bleed at the same time on a target so of you can make the normal bleed count as moving both can be applied. The example of the math and the wording suggests this is the case if indeed they are seperate ailments which is what they said today
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@Vulgaels But aggravated bleed makes enemies already take damage as though they are moving. So combining these 2 wouldn't do much, since the variable of whether to deal 70% damage or 210% is likely determined by an "is moving" statement, both of which are affected in the exact same way both by the boots and aggravation...
@Vulgaels Ай бұрын
@umechrono it does because if you have 100 bleed damage on target from hit 1, than aggravated the bleed on hit 2, you now have 1 aggravated bleed and 1 normal bleed, on hit 3 you apply a new bleed, than you have 1 aggravated bleed doing damage and 1 bleed from hit 3 doing damage until you aggravated that bleed. In other words aggravated elevates the highest dps bleed on target to count as moving but it is actually a whole new ailment called aggravated bleed. It's why this works on non Gladiator ascendancy
@blackwomangamer2637 Ай бұрын
It seems really hard for me to not pick the block nodes in ascendancy it seems kinda op no?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Which ones?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
About SST setup. 1. In config there is -23% chance to block because PoB incorrectly calculates determined survivor. 2. SST has a lot of points to spare, so feel free to put them into damage/life/utility as you please, but ideally put them into cluster jewels. 3. The runic hatchet is easy to craft: Get warlord ilvl82 runic hatchet or just a normal one and throw a warlord's exalted orb on it -> spam reforge phys or use phys fossils -> get the highest "increased physical damage over time" mod you can afford -> get phys dot multi bench craft. The ideal scenario would be: getting inc phys dot with generic dot multi -> multicraft -> increased damage over time + phys dot multi bench crafts. 4. Early on chain is better, but pierce is insanely good, so try to grab yourself a lioneye's vision body armour or pierce from glove implicits/betrayal bench craft. 2 additional pierce is enough. Fork is a superior support gem for clear, because it basically doubles and then quadruples your clear. 5. We have corrupting fever because there are too many empty gem sockets AND corrupting fever is +- 20% more damage at all stages of the game, while also helping out with expedition farming a lot (something that bleed builds excel at). 6. There's a damage milking setup with olesya's delight, ralakesh's impatience and usurpers penance which will skyrocket your damage, but its defensively questionable, especially if you go for farrul's fur. 7. With the return of jewellery mirroring, you can get a +4 amulet again, which brings you to a break of point of lvl 24 for SST, which gives you 20% more damage at any point of progression. 8. I'd bet that 60 new bases include shield bases as well, so its likely we'll be able to get beyond 3k armour and maybe even reach 4k armour on shields. 9. Remember, that main hand weapon is only a stat stick, so anything affecting stats on the weapon locally won't affect your build in any way. 10. Just a heads up, this build is quite weak in comparison to other bleed builds. The painfulness of progression is similar to bleed bow. PLAY AS A LEAGUE STARTER AT YOUR OWN DISCRETION. If you have any questions - leave the comments below this comment.
@kkplx Ай бұрын
For perfect agony, you use ambush i think, for bosses, rares.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@kkplx It would be a very clunky setup with unreliable damage output.
@rainie_876 Ай бұрын
As someone who's never played bleed, this is the most helpful video on bleed I've found so far. Thanks!
@deo2015 Ай бұрын
Спасибо братан. Тоже хотел поиграть бы на броске щита, когда его только ввели еще) Вот там топ был! Правда потом его понерфели.. Ну ничего! Надеюсь SST на кровотечении будет играбелен, или нет? Что думаешь
@umechrono Ай бұрын
По идее должен быть играбелен в этом патче. Его конечно не очень сильно баффнули, но изменения качества на предметах и саппорт гем Rupturing вместе с Seething Fury должен учлучшить ситуцию с сингл таргетом этого билда, ибо клирит он дай божЕ. Так ещё может быть они щиты добавили с ещё большим количеством брони...и при всём этом, они вернули отзеркаливание бижутерии из каландры, которая позволит легчайшим образом получить +4 для SST чтобы апнуть урон на 25%. Главное не трогай альтернативный гем на SST, он залупа полная.
@Rykarie Ай бұрын
Cant remember the name of the jewel but isnt there one which grants block based on the resistances within its radius? That would help cap block on dual wield right if put on the left side on tree?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
You're right! I keep forgetting these jewels exist. The red, blue and green nightmare. They could be really good.
@akitava1961 Ай бұрын
Hi! Any setup for hardcore with shield?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I'm not really a hardcore player, so I'm not sure about my abilities in making a hc viable build.
@ATmadtown Ай бұрын
Why not take endurance charges
@umechrono Ай бұрын
hm?
@ATmadtown Ай бұрын
Endurance charges are the strongest thing from the patch notes defensively. I’m wondering why you would path all the way to the jewel sockets but not spend the point la to take the max charges
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@ATmadtown I see
@zwieldin Ай бұрын
Youre gonna laugh but ive been wracking my brain on how to get blade flurry with its damage boost, both vaal & regular for bleed...The 20% more dual wield attack speed modifier... The new block tonk... 660% attack damage & 150% more hit & ailment just seems... Something
@umechrono Ай бұрын
That's pretty interesting 👍
@kamilt1821 Ай бұрын
Are u sure ungil's harmony is working with perfect agony ? based on wording it should but pob is fixing your crit multi at 100% so not sure anymore.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
It does work. To explain it simply, ungil's harmony doesnt stop you from gaining crit multi, it only stops you from being able to apply it to hits to deal additional damage, while perfect agony applies it to ailments instead as a multiplier instead.
@faederSSF Ай бұрын
real umechrono from twitch chat Stronge
@umechrono Ай бұрын
real faederSSF from twitch chat Kissahomie
@sammyjenkis5260 Ай бұрын
I would rather play something else than to warcry for damage. If I dont have enough damage without warcry it’s a no deal for me
@sammyjenkis5260 Ай бұрын
Also you should def go for endurance charges
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@sammyjenkis5260 How?
@sammyjenkis5260 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono get the charges and tge cluster for endurance charges on kill/block
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@sammyjenkis5260 I think enduring cry is enough.
@sammyjenkis5260 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono if you dont mind clicking it… feels clunky to me
@innerblaze420 Ай бұрын
To cap block dont forget u can craft block on armor and even get block as implicit
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Yeah! I was thinking about it but forgot to say during gear part of the video.
@ybbob3583 Ай бұрын
when should i spec into crimson dance?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
If you go for lacerate/bladestorm or any other quick attacking skill, then its better to spec into it asap. For sunder or EQ though, aggravating seems better.
@MrMmva Ай бұрын
Have you seen the Leader of the Pack + Banner of the Cause = sovereignity if you only care about mana reservation. But you do get more aura effect
@umechrono Ай бұрын
yep
@maygodguideustohaven Ай бұрын
champion of the cause *
@Jackstrap9 Ай бұрын
Nice vid, better sound clarity than the previous one! Have you tried a pob with DW impale bleed lacerate? Its a lot of points of investment but I think it can slap
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Yeah I did, it looked disgustingly bad so I didnt even mention it. You'd have to drop block completely to make it somewhat work, but even then the damage numbers are mediocre at best.
@accessdenied4551 Ай бұрын
you are aware of the perfect agony change right..?
@accessdenied4551 Ай бұрын
nvm i see you addressed it
@notwilltoledo Ай бұрын
Why more dmg isnt effect bleed?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I dont quite understand...
@notwilltoledo Ай бұрын
@@umechrono you said rage doesnt effect bleeding. how? the more dmg we deal with attacks, the more bleeding dmg per sec right?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@notwilltoledo New rage affects damage with hits specifically, and any increases to damage with hits doesn't increase the bleed you apply, because the calculation for bleed application happens before the "more attack damage".
@notwilltoledo Ай бұрын
@@umechrono thats sad ..
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Like this comment if you'd like to see a 1h + shield PoB.
@quantondev Ай бұрын
Yeah, maybe for early game might be better with sunder because lacerate clear is abysmal early game as I tried but cant realy say much without the explosion mastery.
@patrickcarlin6993 Ай бұрын
A 1h shield setup maybe using the new bleed retaliate would be cool
@diablomix Ай бұрын
is dual wielding sunder a massive damage loss? I like the sunder tree but would prefer dual wielding
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@diablomix For bleed - yes. For on hit - no/
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@patrickcarlin6993 We dont really know lvl 20 gem numbers yet though.
@greedy7322 Ай бұрын
Привет, а можно поб на лвлинг?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Поба будет не действительна начиная с 3.25 из-за изменений в дереве. Ты можешь просто перематывать на моменты где я левел аплюсь, и смотреть куда вкладываю поинты.
@AIM-fi Ай бұрын
Presence is about 1 screen, a little shy.
@Rykarie Ай бұрын
Eviscerate for huge bleed on bosses with 80% bleed duration mastery. Then either lacerate/sunder/ bs carnage for clear. Double strike and perforate bloodshed also looking great with being amoung the highest buffed melee skills for bleed
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Double strike and perforate still dont outperform lacerate tbh.
@brillanty7091 Ай бұрын
What do you think of perforate of bloodshed ?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I think its playable, but nowhere near the skills I mentioned. Plus its mechanically very clunky to use, especially when fighting bosses.
@luisa.d.6885 Ай бұрын
Excited to see the bleed build, +1 follower!
@diablomix Ай бұрын
bleed glad guide would be great
@ytloginn Ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. My league start plan this league is to copy whoever comes up with the best looking bleed glad pob I can find.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I was just about to release a video with a bunch of good looking PoB's, but after reading this comment, I decided that I will keep MY PRECIOUS to myself. Bleeeeeeeeeh
@AIM-fi Ай бұрын
@@umechrononooooo 😅
@Jackstrap9 Ай бұрын
What are your toughts on impale + bleed while dw?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
It unironically might be good as a build that used to be played back in the day and was very strong early game and easy to gear. Im yet to PoB it, so can't say for sure, but I dont see why it wouldnt work.
@Jackstrap9 Ай бұрын
@@umechrono aight, ill be interested in your feedback once you look at it. It takes a lot of points on the passive tree tho
@umechrono Ай бұрын
@@Jackstrap9 Yeah, that is the main problem.
@TheMisterFeez1 Ай бұрын
You talked about sweep, do you think a Sweep build could be a thing ?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
It theoretically can. The main issue would be having to play fully in melee range due to lack of range, so I might've overcooked on this one.
@seventhslap509 Ай бұрын
Hi Patop, great & informative video. The ending got me good, cheers. I'll will start as Lacerate Glad with an life on block shield. Gives me nostalgia back from Blight league. I would love the see an lvling guide. The video here in the background gave already a sneak-peek but I am with melee/spectral helix lvling.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I have a bleed sunder act 10 run on my channel, here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHnMeqiKnp57o80 . I will be doing something similar on league start.
@WhiteNi9ht Ай бұрын
Can Vaal Pact be usable with bleed builds? I really want to try melee bleed glad with some occasional retaliation.
@umechrono Ай бұрын
Yeah, you can. But the issue are encounters and situations where you have nothing to hit like trials, lab, boss phases, just walking around the map. To me the new vaal pact seems very questionable due to how unreliable it is.
@Sevein23 Ай бұрын
Will you do a POB setup for Glad lacerate or your standard Glad melee bleed build?
@umechrono Ай бұрын
I will put a PoB in the description if I become confident enough that the PoB doesn't suck.
@honneybadger6959 2 ай бұрын
Ok mate, i am sold. Waiting for an in depth pob for bleed glad melee league start and progression!)