@@RonnieShepard-p1v Yes, the supplement is taxable. It goes on your income taxes along with everything else that you have and that amount set your bracket. It’s not a specific tax amount it’s based on your bracket.
@RonnieShepard-p1v4 күн бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 ok thanks am at 22%
@Axel009268 күн бұрын
Debbie this explanation was so helpful, I like the fact that u give examples in your explanations, it reduces the uncertainty and it feels like every single detail got covered, awesome work.
@GlennIltis16 күн бұрын
You are missing a very important number in your calculation. If, under your scenario, I delay taking SS until 67, I must take $109,320.00 out of my portfolio to make up the difference. Line 4 should be doubled before dividing by line 5, or 242.40 months. Actual breakeven is about 20 years or about age 87
@abehart4357Ай бұрын
Hello Debbie, so glad to have come across your channel. I am currently in the national guard and was wondering if Title 32 time can be used thew the Federal Civilian “buy back” program?
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
Glad you found the channel too. Only Title 10 time can be purchased, not 32.
@Axel00926Ай бұрын
Thank you Debbie, awesome info. I do would like you to do a video only about Special Employee Category, Special Provision, it's High-3 and Pension and the general TSP rules when retirement of these specific fed employees, I saw one of our videos, before I thought overtime was not included into the High-3 but after I saw your video I realized its include in 50%, thanks!
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
The special employee category class is four hours. I can’t do it in 20 minutes. But I can do a short snippet about how special provision employees are different from traditional employees. I’ll put that on my to do list. Thank you for the suggestion.
@Axel00926Ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 Absolutely, thank you for the response !
@Axel00926Ай бұрын
I'm glad to find this KZbin explanation about the High-3, I've been sweeping the web for a good explanation and I found it, Debbie you explained this beautifully, very helpful, thank you!
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know you found it helpful. 😊
@ClickBeetleTVАй бұрын
Hi! This video was very helpful! It's oddly difficult to find clear explanations of this part of the retirement package. By any chance, do you have a link to the FERS Supplement calculation worksheet you used around minute 12? Thanks!
@mareanddru9826Ай бұрын
Sorry I’m sounding like a dummy, but none of this was ever explained to me 14 years ago. Since Covid came about there is no one in offices anymore where I can sit across from to be coached through everything. So are you saying my military time (6 yrs) will automatically go towards my federal civilian position (14 yrs) for a total of 20 yrs with the federal government? Exactly what am I buying back and why?
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
You don't sound like a dummy - just, uninformed on the topic. You haven't been able to sit across from people in an HR for coaching for quite some time now. It's not been a great change in my opinion, but no one really cares... Alas. I am saying your 6 years of military time counts towards annual leave accrual ONLY unless you buy it back. If you make a military deposit (the topic of this video), that 6 years will then also count towards your retirement. If you have 14 years of civilian work and you buy your military time, THEN you will have a total of 20 with the government. You could retire 6 years earlier and it would add 6% x high-3 to your annuity for the rest of your life. Watch the video again with this lens and let me know if you have questions.
@mareanddru9826Ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016thank you so much for responding so quickly, I really appreciate it! I will definitely stay in contact with you.
@mareanddru9826Ай бұрын
Great information!
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know you found this helpful.
@mareanddru9826Ай бұрын
Can accrued comp time hours be used towards retirement, if so, what are the benefits?
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
They can not. Comp Time earned for working overtime will typically pay out when a person retires - just as you annual leave. Comp Time for Travel is use or lose, it does not ever convert to money. Use that prior to retirement.
@mareanddru9826Ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016thank you
@unknownorigin9517Ай бұрын
I retired under early out and recently reached my MRA in April 2024. I received my first supplement payment in June for the month of May per a letter I received from OPM. However, I later received an annuity adjustment letter informing me that my July supplement payment for the month of June and the coming months would be $165 less per month. Would the payment I received in June have not only included the supplement for the entire month of May but also a prorated amount for April? Is that why I received $165 more only in the month of June? I didn’t think the supplement was prorated. The letter I received failed to include any details as to why the amount changed. I have contacted OPM about this to no avail. Very frustrating. Also, prior to my retirement I attended two of your seminars in person. They were tremendously helpful. Thank you.
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
I'm thrilled you found the training helpful. Thank you so much for letting me know. Sad OPM is not getting back to you but most definitely not surprised. The Supplement is prorated. When we do the calculation in class, and most certainly here in 15-20 minute snippets, I should you how to do just an estimate so we do round to full calendar years. Here is a link to Chapter 51 of the OPM handbook if you'd like to see the "factual" way this computation is done. www.opm.gov/retirement-center/publications-forms/csrsfers-handbook/c051.pdf
@davidowens1607Ай бұрын
Debbie - will my FERS supplement be included in my monthly FERS payment, or will it be included in a separate payment? Thank you.
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
It is in the same monthly deposit as your FERS.
@davidowens1607Ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 okie dokie - thank you. 🙂
@richardscott37242 ай бұрын
sick leave means nothing to a retiring public servant. there is no money for unused sick leave. Take into account indexing.
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
Your opinion and you are most definitely entitled to it.
@fpn662 ай бұрын
To clarify, while I'm in service (less than 59 1/2) I can do a hardship withdraw without penalties and have 3 years to pay it back? I would pay the Federal tax but have it refunded when the money is paid back. Is this still the case in August of 2024?
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
Yes, but, to do one without penalty it's limited to $1,000 per year.
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-24-55.pdf
@TJ-222 ай бұрын
If you are retired military, in pay in full your military retirement deposit, then does your military time does not count towards your leave SCD?
@debbiehatch80162 ай бұрын
Does not TJ. Making the deposit, and waiving the military retirement, gives you credit towards retirement only.
@TJ-222 ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 Thank you
@Ludatajuju2 ай бұрын
Hi Debbie, My spouse & I just learned about the WEP 2day. He is blind & receiving SSDI. He worked for a job for 20 years that didn't w/h SS. Do you know if when his SSDI is converted to SSA retirement will he be afected by this
@debbiehatch80162 ай бұрын
Yes, WEP will apply in that situation. I'm sorry. www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10045.pdf
@hawajop3 ай бұрын
At 8:56, you stated sick leave computation does not count for deferred retirements. For a FERS (non-LEO) employee, is sick computation allowed for postponed retirements? OR for MRA+10 (reduced) and immediately filing for an annuity?
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
Sick leave does not count for a Deferred Retirement. It does count for MRA+10…both immediate and postponed.
@Ludatajuju3 ай бұрын
Best info on the web. Please give us some new videos.
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the nice compliment. I'd love to have time to do more videos - problem is, You Tube doesn't pay the bills. I'll make new episodes as I can. Again, thank you so much.
@Letizia48133 ай бұрын
For calculating high 3, if your salary is say $100k and you separate on June 30 is that final year calculated as $100k or $50k (because you only actually earned 6 months of that final year)? I think from your example that you would list the separation date as 6/30/xx and work backwards from that date for 36 months (assuming your last 3 years were the highest). Meaning that if you had a step increase that last year that you would only get that higher salary in your calculation for half of that final year.
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
I apologize for the delay in getting back to you. My email has been down for three weeks (!!!!) at this point and I don't know when they're going to get it fixed. In the meantime, I'm looking for stuff, manually. Simplistically, you get credit for the money you actually received so - in your example, $50K not $100.
@jeff88833 ай бұрын
Debbie are you still working?
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
Yes, Jeff, I'm still working. My priorities have been teaching and consulting though. You Tube has always been a back-burner item for me. I get to it when I can and help, voluntarily, as much as possible but not as often as I'd like.
@samanderson93113 ай бұрын
Debbie got questions
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
I can't answer them if you don't tell me what they are. How can I help?
@samanderson93113 ай бұрын
Do fers retirement can only make 22300 after age 62 or can they make earn as much as they want unlimited
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
@@samanderson9311 The earnings limit goes away at age 62. After that, people can make as much as they want without impact.
@DeliberateDecisions3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Debbie! I watched the replay and your information was very helpful. I took a lot of notes. I see this was 3 years ago. Are there any changes to what you provided in this video, please?
@Milkman35720003 ай бұрын
ugg. USE your sick leave. Giving it back is like a bonus for the Federal Gov.
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
You're definitely entitled to your opinion. Many people consider sick leave to be "money in the bank" though. It's not an entitlement: it's more an insurance policy for when/if we're sick. Remember FERS employees received nothing for a very long time. The fact that it is now added to our annuity payment is a nice change.
@mattborden18164 ай бұрын
Ms. Hatch came to Goodfellow AFB, and gave us an HR class. This was about 2009-2010….very informative and I still have the book….😍
@debbiehatch80163 ай бұрын
I love that so much, Matt. I'm glad that class served you well. Thank you so much for letting me know. - Debbie.
@kimwalker95814 ай бұрын
Hey Debbie, Im retiring from VA. I have 17 years of service retiring as a deffered retirement at 60. Its there any benefit to retire at 62? Im guessing I will overcome the penalty of retireing early if I wait until 62.
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Congratulations. At 60 with 17 years, you are entitled only to the MRA + 10 retirement. As you've stated, there is a 5% per year penalty for each year you start collecting under age 62 (2 X 5 = 10% reduction . This is permanent for the rest of your life. If you wait until 62 to retire, or to start collecting, there is no penalty. Also, if you were to work until age 62, and have 20 years at that time, instead of your annuity being 1% X high 3 x 17, it would be 1.1% X high 3 X 20. In neither case will you be eligible to receive the FERS Sujpplement.
@lashadow84 ай бұрын
Watched and saved the replay for future research...great channel! Thank you!
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Thank you, sincerely, for the nice compliment.
@chrispalmer66484 ай бұрын
Thank you! I only just heard about WEP for the first time within the past few days but was having a hard time understanding whether it might apply to me. Your explanation made it SO MUCH clearer than every other video I've watched and was extremely helpful.
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Your comment thrills me, Chris. Thanks so much for taking the time to leave it.
@goththicus4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Your videos are so informative. In your first example (23:37), you described my situation. When my spouse signed up for Medicare part A he did not sign up for part B. Since he’s covered under my FEHB plan. But when I do reach 65 we both have the opportunity at that time to sign up for Part B if we choose, without penalty? <-- this is where I got confused. Thank you.
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking time to leave me a nice message and compliment. I'm glad you found the video helpful. When you reach 65, if you are still working, and still have your spouse on your FEHB, neither of you need to sign up. You can both enroll up to 8 months after you retire, no matter how old you are, without penalty. This is called the Special Enrollment Period. Here's what I hope is an easy way to understand it. You have three different times when you can enroll. (1) Initial Enrollment Period: 3 months before, the month of and 3 months after, a person (everyone is an individual here) turns 65. OR (2) Special Enrollment Period: Up to 8 months after retiring IF you were covered under your own, or a spouse's FEHB and that person was still working, at 65. OR (3) During the annual open season January - March. It is signing up during open season that comes with the penalty.
@goththicus4 ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 Thank you!!! That is very helpful.
@goththicus4 ай бұрын
Good info. I’m always planning so this is good info for when I retire in 5 years. My service date is in July and that was my target however, after listening to your good, better and best scenarios it looks like it might be best at the end of year, unfortunately. 😅
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Sorry. :-) The good news is, those few months should pass quickly with a light at the end of the (proverbial) tunnel.
@Ludatajuju5 ай бұрын
Hi Debbie, You explain things better than any one else. I am receiving SSDI & I am a part time fed. Will I still be eligible for the supplement? I am retiring in 1 year. I will have MRA & 30 years.
@debbiehatch80165 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Your FERS retirement benefits are separate from your Social Security benefits (there is an bit of an exception if people retire on a FERS Disability but that's not applicable to you). Under MRA +30, yes, you will be eligible for the FERS Supplement.
@robertvandertuin53085 ай бұрын
Aloha Debbie I retired under the early program from USAR (not active) and I am now getting ready to retire as a GS employee from Pearl Harbor, I payed back 4 years 8 month and 22 days of combat tours and received a memo receipt. My question is about my Service Computation Date (SCD) which shows 19886 and (I was Active Duty from 1986 to 1989 here in Hawaii with 25th ID. I was under the impression that I did not have to buy that back. Are you from Hawaii?
@debbiehatch80164 ай бұрын
Hi Robert. I apologize for the delay in getting back to you. You do not have to buy that time back in order for it to count towards your annual leave accrual (which is the SCD you're looking at). IF you want that time to also count towards your retirement, it would require a military deposit.
@robertvandertuin53084 ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 thank you very much.
@MarcyCavalier-xc4ez5 ай бұрын
So is it normal to not have a huge amount in the Cumulative amount? I’ve worked for DoD for 20 years and I only have $6641k in that box. Seems pretty low to me.
@debbiehatch80165 ай бұрын
Good morning. It is absolutely normal not to have a huge amount in there. It is only 0.8% of what you've earned over the past 20 years. That said, please do know this small amount do not impact the amount you'll receive in your pension which is calculated as Creditable Service X High-2 Average Salary X 1% or 1.1% depending on age.
@kyle73454 ай бұрын
@@debbiehatch8016 yeah i was sitting at work with a co worker and we were talking about deductions and we seen i was at 6800 and he was at 22k on that. only thing we wont the same on is that i been working twice as long as he had.
@aconsideredmoment5 ай бұрын
Is adjusted basic pay reduced by actual LWOP like FMLA or does high-3 use the pay rate through that period as if working.
@debbiehatch80165 ай бұрын
LWOP does not reduce the high-3. It is not money earned, it is annual pay assigned to the position. That said, LWOP in excess of 6 months per calendar year can impact leave accrual, within grade increases and service computation dates.
@estelaquezada-razo74005 ай бұрын
Simply said....thank you!!
@carliwells5 ай бұрын
I am 4 years till retirment at 58. Thanks for this video. very helpful
@debbiehatch80165 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for letting me know you found value in this.
@ruthless68345 ай бұрын
Hello. I worked as a federal law enforcement officer for 13 years. I decided to leave the federal service and work in the private sector. After two years of break in service, I decided to come back to the federal service but this time on a non-law enforcement position. While working as a LEO my base salary was much higher than my current position. In this case how is my high 3 calculated? I was able to add my previous federal time to my current position. Is it calculated based on what I currently make( after the break in service) or what I make the most when I was a LEO( before the real in service). Thanks
@elchulo2443 ай бұрын
A few points to remember: 1) to get a full retirement under Federal LEO, you must have 20 years of service. 2) As a federal LEO, you earned 1.7% per every year of service. So when you left that position, you had accumulated 22.1 %. 3) When you returned to the federal gov. as a civilian, you now earn 1% per every year you work and not 1.7. 4) let’s say you stay as a civilian until you retire from federal service; your retirement will account for the time you were as an LEO plus the time you completed as a civilian. And they will take you to a high 3 in your federal service. (HOWEVER) 5) because you DID NOT complete your 20 years as a Federal LEO; therefore, your 13 years at 1.7% will convert to 1%. In other words, you left money on the table. 6) in short, unless you return to federal LEO coverage and complete seven years to get your 20 at 1.7%, your retirement will be based on 1% per every year of service. Suppose you choose to return to federal LEO service. In that case, you have to make sure you don’t turn 57, the mandatory retirement age for Federal LEOs, within those seven years because otherwise, you will not be able to retire in time, which has to do with your current age and break in service. Good luck.
@OldSailorDan80246 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos. The algorithm popped you up in my feed just as I needed to hear your info. I was very interested in what you said about retiring at the end of the year. I was planning on retiring at the end of November, would waiting a month make much of a difference?, if so how much of a difference?
@debbiehatch8016Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry it has taken me this long to respond. Sometimes You Tube sends me comments; other times (like this) I have to just happen up on them. I'm glad you got the video exactly when you needed it. Your retirement is calculated by multiplying your high-3 average salary by your length of service by a formula based on the way you retire, and potentially your age. Let's assume you're under 62 and, say your high-3 is $75,000 and that you worked 30 yrs 11 months vs 31 years, it would only be a $5.19 per month difference BUT it would also increase your FERS Supplement, if you're eligible for that; you'd have 16 more hours of annual to be paid for and 8 more hours of sick leave to add to the calculation. You would have another month of TSP contributions (both from you, and if you're FERS, the government). It can make a difference in the amount of COLA you receive the first year, plus all the other things mentioned in the video. You definitely don't HAVE to retire on 12/31 but a lot of people do, for a lot of reasons.
@vanessag69006 ай бұрын
Excellent info. 2024. 😊
@jasonharris72387 ай бұрын
After the high 3 is calculated, how do I convert it to an annual gross retirement pay?
@ericd68797 ай бұрын
Great info.
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for letting me know it was helpful.
@MarilynLighty7 ай бұрын
I forgot to tell you. Have a great time on your vacation.😎
@MarilynLighty7 ай бұрын
Debbie, the information was so helpful. I’m going over my paperwork so I can retire from the post office in about four months. I’m so glad that I had looked the application over last year. Thank you so much for your knowledge
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement. Thank YOU for letting me know the video was helpful.
@brianlaney82997 ай бұрын
Great video!
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for letting me know.
@FkBdn7 ай бұрын
You’ll have to hire an attorney if you ever expect to get a payout from FEGLI. These people are iodiots!! Not sure who ties their shoes-but FEGLI & OPM are the most incompetent and untrustworthy people!!
@melissamcmullen69487 ай бұрын
My father worked 20 years for USPS and paid for Option B x5 since 1992. He recently died and FEGLI initially told me the payout would be the payout would be Standard, Basic, And Option Bx5. When the check came it was only x1. I called and they said OPM sent an amendment last week and that in 2011 at retirement he changed it to x1. That’s the same year my dad was diagnosed stage 4 cancer (so odd). But I just confirmed with OWCP he was indeed paying on Bx5 this whole time. -Well, until he turned age 65 which was 2 months before his death. Have you ever seen anyone successfully get something like this corrected?
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
First, my condolences on your dad's passing. I'm sorry. If your dad was paying for for BX5 until age 65 and then the payments stopped, he must have elected "Full Reduction" when he retired. With that, Option B becomes free at age 65 but, at that same times, starts reducing in value by 2% per month until it goes to zero. If your dad passed away 2 months after turning 65, the value would have only decreased by 4%. You are ENTITLED to the correct payout. www.opm.gov/retirement-center/calculators/fegli-calculator/option-b-additional-insurance-in-retirement/ If OPM is claiming your dad went down to 1X, ask for a copy of that documentation. If they can't provide it to you, file a Congressional complaint. Let me know if I can help, or answer any additional questions for you.
@bryansipes36017 ай бұрын
I am CSRS. I am tentatively planning to depart on Friday, January 3rd, but may pick Thursday, January 2nd instead. A factor for me is coordinating with my manager and IT equipment office to have someone to turn my laptop and other equipment in to on my last day.
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
January will be here before we know it. Congratulations on your impending retirement.
@bryansipes36017 ай бұрын
Something that I need to research into is; post Federal retirement, I am exploring opportunities to make additional income. I am under CSRS. I need to figure out how much I can earn before it could impact my retirement annuity. My wife is hoping to work for a few years until she can draw her SS, and I wanted to do something, at least part time, to add to our house-purchase fund. We want to eventually move to another state close to our daughter and her family.
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
There is no income restriction on your CSRS. While there is a limit for the FERS retirees who are receiving a Supplement, you can work and make as much money as you want to without impacting your CSRS Annuity.
@Outlier10607 ай бұрын
Too bad usps lite blue doesn’t work.
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
Sorry that’s true. Let me know if you have any questions.
@bryansipes36017 ай бұрын
This is all excellent information. Thank you Debbie.
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
You’re welcome. ☺️
@dachickenman2817 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this information
@debbiehatch80167 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting me know it's was helpful to you.