They cant even come close to finishing a 1.5 hr harescramble in dry conditions. Nothing but a yard bike. They are nowhere near as good as people want you to think. They get smoked by ICE bikes
@cale1682 ай бұрын
In my opinion other than battery life, the main drawback is the lack of a lever that replicates a clutch. There's a lot of wrist movement that has to happen the entire time you are riding. Otherwise its insanely easy to ride compated to ICE.
@JasonMitchellfun2 ай бұрын
Ripping on that thing. Try going one smaller on the front sprocket. You can run a lower power setting and get the same effect and get a little more range. You are more of a man than me running it at 60! I’ve run that in the deep mud and on the road but it’s way too much for me haha
@cale1682 ай бұрын
I'm planning on going up to a 52 on the rear since I run 14-52 on my 450s but I have also tried a moto at 45hp one day and it didn't seem to help range much if at all.
@JasonMitchellfun2 ай бұрын
@@cale168 I’ve heard that you can’t go higher than 48-49 because of the chain guard.
@cale1682 ай бұрын
@@JasonMitchellfun thanks that's good to know I will make sure I try one of my ktm wheels with the bigger sprocket before I order one for the varg!
@that_prodigy_kx450f3 ай бұрын
I was there you were dusting me
@chucktrotter96993 ай бұрын
3.29.24 I would like to see some racing and racing starts. Did you bring your charger?
@cale1683 ай бұрын
Yes, I always bring my changer and a second bike to a practice. I'll ride the Varg one session, then ride a gas bike the second session while the Varg is charging, and just go back and forth until I am done riding. I am not sure when there will be any races in Michigan/my area that allow electric bikes. I didn't purchase the bike with the purpose of using it as a race bike, mostly as a way to put less hours on my gas bikes since the electric is so much better on maintenance. There are a few tracks around that aren't AMA that I don't usually race, but maybe I will check one of them out this year.
@motron34533 ай бұрын
Which HP and Engine Brake/Regen setting did you use? My Varg at 40hp is at least as powerful as my CRF250.
@cale1683 ай бұрын
Yeah they can be insanely fast! I typically set to 60HP and play with the regen based on what my second bike for the practice day is. I've been doing 30-50 ish with two strokes and up near 80 with my 450 . At 60 it was digging through this dirt like crazy!
@JeffWalker843 ай бұрын
OJ right off the rip. Love that energy
@cale1683 ай бұрын
The "He doesn't care about the quality of landings" audio or whatever that was comes to mind" haha
@dustinbryan45974 ай бұрын
Seen you at Moto extreme and log road. Awesome that you have a channel. Subscribed and would like to meet you if we end up at the same track again.
@cale1684 ай бұрын
Always available to talk about dirt bikes! And thanks for the sub!
@paulwalker30674 ай бұрын
Ripping!
@Juacmausolf4 ай бұрын
bro ive been looking for a vid on log rd for the race next wknd
@cale1684 ай бұрын
Sweet! This was from thier practice Sunday, so should be pretty similar!
@japandrz4 ай бұрын
Hey, I am looking at that same generator. Is it easy to pick up and load by yourself? Its the lightest of the 220v gens but I have to carry mine in the back of a SUV. Thanks!
@cale1684 ай бұрын
Yeah it's not a problem getting it into the van by myself. I think I could even do it one armed if I had to. Confirmed: can lift with one arm and do the old hip check to get it in the vehicle. Easier than putting the Varg on the stand 🤣
@japandrz4 ай бұрын
@@cale168 Ha! Thanks man! I gave up on the Varg stand and use a hydraulic one. Took the charger out and put it in a case. Appreciate the reply! And you are hauling ass out there. Nice work
@richardunruh40354 ай бұрын
Where is this Cale?
@cale1684 ай бұрын
A track a little over an hour south of me called Moto Xtreme in Hillsdale MI.
@steveb62874 ай бұрын
Nice Riding. Corner and roll speed is awsome!
@davidmorgan84424 ай бұрын
those things are sick
@JohnHolka5 ай бұрын
I feel like not having a clutch is the reason you tipped over both times
@cale1685 ай бұрын
I could see a clutch saving me the second time, but I don't think itnwould have mattered for the first, just pushed the front in the slippery conditions.
@otero22355 ай бұрын
Fastest bike on the track. The way it pulled away from the other bikes was brutal.
@GoonRider2046 ай бұрын
Dog you almost ate it so many times ahaha
@tylerwildmx8126 ай бұрын
Jeff walker!!!
@Tibingi846 ай бұрын
once they find a way for the battery to last 40 minutes on the 80HP map, that would be awesome
@reachmast34326 ай бұрын
Really good rider and that’s a sweet bike
@elasticsoldier02576 ай бұрын
Fair play for even going for it.
@LucasBassFishing6 ай бұрын
Can you let us know what you typically see for battery life on the track? I saw at the beginning you put 100% and it was a 22 minute moto and after your crash the display said 67 but it said 4 minutes of riding time.. did you charge in between?
@cale1686 ай бұрын
It really depends. Typically getting on average 25 minutes or so but it's been anywhere from 22 minutes to 30 minutes. And no I didn't charge at all during this moto.
@LucasBassFishing6 ай бұрын
Ty for the reply, I want one but the battery life needs to be increased to a minimum of 1 hour before I pull the trigger. @@cale168
@jerseymclemore27697 ай бұрын
Keep the bike @80w and maybe u will know how accurately keep up n not loook like a re re
@jerseymclemore27697 ай бұрын
ur slow 😅
@jamesclark47 ай бұрын
Never been on a track feel like im going to get jumped on if i try it
@tajjson7 ай бұрын
Damn, you are scary fast. 😎
@elijahbrown76927 ай бұрын
steel frame two strokes rule
@giusepperomania42477 ай бұрын
Thank for sharing the video.. . I’m riding mine for about a month and I’m so in love it!
@brandonosborn93607 ай бұрын
so sick man!! you were shreddddin
@mcsbikelife38297 ай бұрын
Nice Cale , Tj was telling me you got one .
@roscius62047 ай бұрын
It appears to be the quickest bike there.
@tentative227 ай бұрын
That was me off to the side of the track when you got on then pulled off next to when your bike was having issues at the beginning. It was so sick to watch you rip up Coops on the Stark!
@chucktrotter96997 ай бұрын
11.29.23 Did you change your mind on if going to do any racing against the gas bikes?
@cale1687 ай бұрын
The ground has started freezing here so no races going on locally for a while. We will see in the spring. I've heard the AMA doesn't allow them as their insurance has the same concern of electric bike riders not being seen, but the rules also aren't super clear yet.
@JoshTheElectric7 ай бұрын
Dude you got skills riding. Falls happen when you go that crazy.
@mckyvr7 ай бұрын
How much time have you spent on the bike and how long does it take to get used to the jumping characteristics?
@cale1687 ай бұрын
I think I'm at 6 or 7 track days now, jumping itself is not very different from gas bikes, so I'd say 2 laps in just jumping. How the throttle changes the pitch of the bike in the air takes a bit to get used to though, probably 40 minutes or so until I didn't have to think about it anymore.
@BrendonMills4617 ай бұрын
I need to ride that thing!
@bjornjagt30737 ай бұрын
Nice track! Good speed!!
@alladar10238 ай бұрын
Feeling bad for your bike
@alladar10238 ай бұрын
Engine brakes % ???
@cale1688 ай бұрын
I set it to 30% on all my modes from the beginning and haven't tested any others yet.
@blastabone8 ай бұрын
Flying! Happy with the bike?
@cale1688 ай бұрын
Yeah it's very fun to ride! definitely not going to replace gas bikes with current battery technology, but once that technology is there you'll be left behind on a gas bike.
@blastabone8 ай бұрын
@@cale168 Would you say you are faster on the Stark compared to a gas bike?
@cale1688 ай бұрын
@@blastaboneI'd say it's like the jump from two stroke to four stroke was. You can still go just as fast on the two stroke. But every mistake is minimized. Same with the jump from 4 stroke to electric, you'll never be in the wrong gear because you cant be. Right now you can't control the power curve on the stark, but I think once you can customize that, it'll be hands down faster. You have no excuse not to get the holeshot against gas now, that's for sure!
@esdrehtsich92893 ай бұрын
@@cale168that was some great feedback 👍👍 By the way: crazy fast with flow for 2 in this video 👍😂
@cr-fc5rb8 ай бұрын
how was the battery life?
@cale1688 ай бұрын
80% down to 30% on this ride.
@cr-fc5rb8 ай бұрын
wow in 9 minutes!
@alladar10238 ай бұрын
Pls make a enduro
@lucaperino36628 ай бұрын
How did you do the hard reset?
@cale1688 ай бұрын
There's a round black connector on the right side of the top of the battery. Twist to unplug. Then, while holding the power button, plug it back in.
@lucaperino36628 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!@@cale168
@clarenceclark85928 ай бұрын
I’m old school I guess I don’t buy into the global warming argument for me it’s another form of control just like kill switches in cars after 2025 it’ll jus be easier to control you as a populous if all ya got to do is flick the switch off on anyone individual or a large mass of people they will control your means of travel and communications how’s that being free and all the people just want to rush into it with open arms and naive minds
@MotoFamMayhem8 ай бұрын
5:45 that was damn close ✊️😮
@MotoFamMayhem8 ай бұрын
"The Silent Assassin" 😅👌
@AUSTIN_4578 ай бұрын
Didnt think id see a stark at supercoop so fast. I ride there as much as i can. You rip brother it was definetly enjoyable to watch. The speed you can accumulate out of corners and leading into jumps is insane. Sorry if i missed it, but are you running a scoop tire?(mx14?) Seems like you are hooking up good. Definitely subscribing to a fellow michigander that rips coops 🤙
@cale1688 ай бұрын
Yeah Pirelli sand tire, the Scorpion soft.
@AUSTIN_4578 ай бұрын
@cale168 nice. Haven't tried a perelli yet but I heard good things.
@jacobkrohn26718 ай бұрын
I was there, u past me. Looking fast😂.
@michaelshayne75748 ай бұрын
Sounds horrible
@cale1688 ай бұрын
Are you saying the bike sounds horrible like noise wise? I know I really need to do something about wind noise on the gopro now that there's no engine drowning it out. Or are you saying the overall experience with battery life sounds horrible?
@michaelshayne75748 ай бұрын
The bike noise is absolutely horrible, it would drive ME crazy. That seems to be a major problem of all high powered electric bikes and vehicules @@cale168
@GroovyVideo28 ай бұрын
Bike sounds like Victory
@esdrehtsich92898 ай бұрын
Great riding ! You are flying !!! I love your non biased attitude. I am really interested in this bike (and all bikes that will come) and because of that I am happy for tests like you did. In numbers: you started around 3:30 of the video with 70hp and felt a little unsafe around 17:50. The power was there but you didn‘t trust the power because it felt not consistently the same as before ? And around 21:00 it was not safe to ride anymore….. That means with your skill and between 70 and 80 hp (I have never heard anybody tried to that power mode for such a long time…👍) the bike can handle around 14,5 minutes of riding…. It would be really interesting to see you ride with the same intensity on a hard pack track and test how the battery will react there….