I’m pretty sure I watched yesterday your final review of this string but can’t find it..did you remove it?

Watch Ivan Lendl 's forehand. It is very similar to the modern/next gen forehand but only more compact. In his heydays, it was considered the most potent forehand of any professional tennis player. Can we then say that the modern forehand evolved from Ivan's?

When looking at the color wheel, purple and blue are the colors directly across from the color of a tennis ball. This allows people in person and on television to see the ball much more clearly.

That´s interesting...thanks !

$6 million banked by Norrie..... Cap doffed!

Adrienne Mariano?

you should also consider age and what ballspeed you are playing against. Best regards from Germany

Agreed. Form only affect players' efficiency of generating racket head speed and has little to do with how they use the speed. Players with worse forms can accelerate the racket with more effort and pretty much do the same thing as players with better forms.

Hey! I have a question on the balance, weight, swing weight. Currently I have swing weight of 318 and balance 3/4. It works on my forehand, but I feel it makes my backhand power lower. What should I think about to get more power on backhand. I could adjust on forehand. So would I need to think swing weight, balance of adding weight and then where. Thanks always

Zverev backhand is harder to time

At the end of the vid you gave out the most important knowledge nugget of the vid. Basically you said that rec players should strive for the simplest or optimal technique to help them improve faster. Simpler technique is almost always going to be more repeatable and easier to learn with less repetitions to master it. It could be said that simpler can be a substitute for repetition. The person trying to perfect needlessly complex inefficient strokes HAS TO preform more repetitions just to stay even in ability with someone with more conventional strokes talent being equal. It should also be pointed out that repetitions won’t give you skills/abilities if the form you have doesn’t allow for it. Say you have a perfectly horizontal swing path forehand which of course will produce a flat forehand. You can practice this forehand till the end of times and it won’t magically produce a heavy topspin forehand. Only by altering your form can that happen. On Norrie it could be argued that he is and has talent to waste. In a alternate universe there is probably a Norrie with more conventional/efficient strokes and because of that this universe has a tennis big 4. Fed, Rafa, Joker and Norrie. 😅

Players actually fear Norrie's backhand more because it has awkward pacing, making anything a deadball Simon style.

Now imagine how good this guy could be with a good technique if he got so high with this abomination. I agree 100% that rec players need to learn the easiest and the most effective technique. You need consistency above all. That means no extremes. Classical technique will be the most suitable for all, modern technique is more difficult but still ok, next gen is big no.

You've touched on this a bit, but the repetition thing is a bit off. The biggest component to having world-class ground stroke (or even high level) are: 1. ball read 2. footwork. In Cameron Norrie's case, his backhand technique's limitation also seems to translates to why he struggles on grass courts. As a tall player with a very high prep and flat ground stroke (compared to someone like Medvedev, who also have a very flat 2HBH), Norrie struggles to pickup low flat shots to his backhand on surfaces where the ball have limited bounce like grass, leading to higher error rate. With that being said, I'm of the opinion that the technique should fit your needs, not the other way around. If there are certain deficiencies within your stroke mechanism that is causing you to repeatedly produce the same error, it should by all means be corrected (and vice versa).

Norrie does not have bad stroke mechanics by any stretch of the imagination, he has all the fundamentals on every stroke. His technique however is not perfect which is clearly why he will never be a top player. But most amateurs have severe technical flaws holding them back which does not allow them to do any of the things you mentioned (impart the right amount of pace, spin, etc.) even if they are good at judging the ball, someone who stays sideways and pulls only their arm through will never create a good amount of spin or pace. For most amateurs it will help a tremendous amount to have a focus on improving their technique whenever they are on court.

Imho its just ego, compare Medvedev who is always is made fun about hus technique compared to For example...sebastian korda who its as aesthetic and relaxed as can be...and compare their careers...i hink repetition its wayy more important than looking "cute" playing

a video about stances

great comments

In an upcoming video I will better define stroke mechanics, form and technique. I used them loosely and interchangeably in this video and that was sloppy. Norrie has exceptional "technique" and that makes him a world class player, however his stroke mechanics and especially his form leave a lot to be desired. Let me know if this would be interesting topic. Thanks for watching my observations and please consider Subscribing and Liking this video.

Bad technique can hinder repetition because it can lead to injury. To me most important aspect of good technique is that it stresses the body as little as possible.

As Fed aged-out of his prime, and particularly since he’s retired, I’ve noticed an increasing trend in popular commentary that seems to pooh-pooh the unbelievable beauty and elegance of his game, howsoever undeniably explosive and precise it was. It’s like the group-think has come around to concluding not just that radical, ultra-spinny - and often decidedly unaesthetically pleasing - playing styles are king (including all the nextgen stuff), and to be embraced by all who aspire to greatness, but that the type of stylistic elegance Fed personified is just a lot of vanity-driven, un-macho, lame BS that will never cut it competitively anymore. I get that some players aren’t beautiful to watch and decidedly herky-jerky in their winning ways, and that, to them, their beauty is in their win-loss record and they couldn’t care less about ballet-esque, on-the-court artistry, at least not admittedly. But I’d rather watch old Federer videos any day for enjoyment, inspiration and continuing education than any of those other players in today’s tournaments no matter their ATP ranking. Any NBA schmoe can dunk a basketball these days, but only MJ and a few others that he influenced could turn it into a majestically breathtaking visual spectacle that one could appropriately compare to decidedly non-competitive pursuits like ballet. And Fed won and won and won and won. He had it ALL. Technique and style, on the one hand, and effectiveness in match play, on the other, are not mutually exclusive. Beauty in one’s game may be less important to some than others, but if I can have both, call me crazy or lame or whatever, I’m all in.

Please define bad technique to make the argument.

McEnroe's biggest ever fine was 17,500 in 1987. In today's dollars that's 48k...

This is intuitive to anyone who has lost to someone with "bad" form. You quash the technique driven ego immediately....or, should.

What I’ve learned from the rec level is repetition is king. You can have nice looking form and technique, but if you can’t replicate it every single time in a match then it’s useless vs a technique that isn’t pretty, but you can consistently do over and over again until the wheels fall off!

I normally use O-toro. Decided to try this string out recently and I thought the strings had low power/spin/pace compared to O-toro. I thought feel was okay, some ball pocketing. Definitely will be sticking to O-toro(I used Hyper G before switching to O-toro for reference)

Norrie, Gulbis, Soderling, Tiafoe, Chardy and many other pros have odd looking strokes but I disagree when you say they have bad technique. They don't have graceful technique and they have an unusual quirk in their stoke but they still have good technique. Norrie has active feet, prepares early by turning his shoulders and setting his grips, has good adjustment steps to the ball, uses his legs and core rotation to drive the arms forward through contact and has a good full follow through. All of these components are good technique even considering his forehand appears a little jerky and his straight arm prep on the backhand is awkward. If an amateur player gets all the things Norrie does right into their game, they will improve dramatically. I think it is more accurate to say if you have good FUNDAMENTAL technique, you can be effective even with a quirk or 2 in your stroking patterns if you practice hard.

Agree that you can’t always copy a pro, but what is always true is that pros come to a particular technique for a reason. At club level, you may never play a person that requires you to make changes to your technique. Sure at pro level they’re getting tested regularly. I have a hitting partner that damn near knocks the racket out of your hand due to the weight of the ball he hits. It’s not even the pace but it’s the heavy spin. Recently, I’ve had more luck going with the high elbow (call it next gen) take back rather than the “pat the dog” take back. It just makes me think that this is where the game is going.

I really like Norrie forehand.

Lol , finally someone other than myself who thinks Norrie has the strangest/worst looking double handed backhand ever. I love tennis and follow every ATP and WTA week on week calendar year but as soon as Norrie is up , even against my favourite players (Carlos, Holger, Casper.....) I aint watching that match😂. At least Medvedev's technique on some of his shots are hilarious and makes you chuckle.

I thought the answer might have been reps given some of the ugly techniques I've seen people make work. Plus, one observation was that tennis is a game ultimately of reps.

I love the big hitter silver 7 tour version and the way it grabs the ball. I watched your video but did not understand the differences besides the pop. Also, it would be good if you could tune down a bit the practice sound and volume up your voice. Thanks for the review

Is bad form the leading cause for injuries?

great video but why do you keep mispronouncing players’ names?

People play with next gen forehands because they can move u around the court with smaller strokes

No polys

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Inspired!

Tiafo was off the line but nothing to be dramatic about it cos he did not hurt anybody. On the other hand Kyrgios has a mean behaviour and enjoys it . He should be punished.