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@robbpowell194
@robbpowell194 Минут бұрын
Boise played Oregon. They could have won. What do you mean Jeanty has never..?
@johndoherty9992
@johndoherty9992 31 минут бұрын
The dude in the middle never watched a boise state football game. Fail.
@JBK415
@JBK415 35 минут бұрын
INSTEAD of canceling the conference championship, #1 Go to 10 Conference Games, #2 move the Rivalry Games up to Week 11, #3 make Week 12 (the last week of the season) a FLEX SCHEDULE WEEK. The conferences will have #1 vs. #2 (conference championship) and #3 vs. #4 Team in the Conference, #5 vs. #6, #7 vs. #8, #9 vs. #10……..all the way to the bottom. #4 Modify the Playoff Selection by adding the old BCS Computer Score starting week 4 (released each week as a WEEKLY REFERENCE), and the selection committee provides the actual rankings starting week 7 (BCS Score continues to be released as only a reference. #5 Group of 5 gets their highest ranked Conference Championship in the Playoff. #6. Top 11 or 12 (depending on whether Group of 5 is in the Top 12 or not) Teams get Playoff Bids and are seated by their Rankings #7. In each round of the Playoff, the Teams are reseeded by their ranking. #8 First Two Rounds, the Highest Ranked Teams Host their Games. 1st Friday and Saturday of December is 1st Round of the Playoff 3rd Friday & Saturday of December is 2nd Round of the Playoffs January 1st is the 3rd Round The Championship Game is on 3rd Friday of January
@PIRATESOFT1
@PIRATESOFT1 40 минут бұрын
🤣 Jeanty was hurt during the first game against UNLV. SMU held Penn pretty well and without their bone headed quarterbacks play they could have beat Penn. SMU's defense was better than Oregon's. Boise is going to shock all the doubters.
@Royale5600
@Royale5600 28 минут бұрын
I will be surprised if he runs for more than 120
@lloydcady7231
@lloydcady7231 55 минут бұрын
When Oregon beat Ohio State there we’re at home which is what we’re three points they say playing on a neutral field. I pick Ohio State and I don’t like either of the schools.
@patricksmith3006
@patricksmith3006 57 минут бұрын
I want to preface this comment with the context that this is not an argument for Bama being in the playoffs. They had no business being in any tournament that would crown a champion. But I wanted to call out where I think the difference in perspectives is coming in, as I think it may provide some clarity on both sides of the argument I think the thing I keep hearing from this podcast vs other media (i.e. Herbstreit, Pate, and some others) is this podcast seems to focus a lot on a teams losses, and less on your wins, whereas others seem to do the inverse. The philosophy I gather from this group seems to be more concerned with who is DESERVING of a shot to win the title. And you (the Cover3 crew) use losses as your primary measuring stick to determine who meets that benchmark. Which is a fine enough point of view anyone can have. It's clean, and can remove some of the bias and human error element from the selection system. And based on that criteria, SMU absolutely deserved a shot more than Bama did. And on paper, it makes sense. Every team in the country is capable of losing any given weekend, and the teams who kept their crap together and didn't drop a game (or at least as many as others) have an argument that they deserve a shot to prove they can keep doing it. And I largely agree here that some benefit of the doubt can be earned by winning enough, even if against perceived inferior competition. Herbstreit and others seem to be looking at wins like Bama over UGA as proof of concept that teams like Bama are CAPABLE of winning against elite competition. Whereas teams like Indiana and SMU had a shot against higher levels of competition and failed their tests. And as some others have pointed out (and even you guys have pointed out by highlighting that blowouts were also commonplace in the 4 team playoff) there are very rarely even 4 elite teams in college football (i.e. teams capable of winning a title). So the gripe from some like Herbstreit is that, yes, they would like to see the teams capable of winning a title get a shot at a title. They are of the opinion that Indiana, Boise, Tennessee, and probably ASU have no real shot at beating someone like Ohio State, Texas, Georgia or Oregon for the national title, especially not when they have to play multiple games against the likes of those teams to get there (and I think is a reasonable assumption based on the way the games played out). Bama, Ole Miss, SCAR had shown that they were capable of winning against teams like that. SCAR beat the ACC Champion just 3 weeks ago. Ole Miss and Bama beat the SEC champion. That is proof that they are capable of beating "playoff caliber" teams, and (in the eyes of some), means they deserve a shot against those teams to win the championship. I'm not sure which of the philosophies subscribe to more. Selfishly, I want to see good games, so I like the idea of putting "better" teams in over "more deserving" but I agree that seems unfair. And I do think fairness should be considered, if only from a fan investment standpoint. But I do think it is a mistake to put so much emphasis on wins and losses, as I believe that no two wins are created equal in college football. Bama beating UGA and Indiana beating FIU are both only one win, but only a fool would say those two wins mean the same thing. I also think the timing of games needs to be a bigger consideration. I think dismissing Kirk's point is a mistake, as I think there is merit to the idea that who you beat is a strong indicator of your capability as a team. Additionally, when you play multiple of those types of games against high caliber teams, there is a taxing effect on your team, mentally and physically, that can make it exponentially more difficult to win against other teams you are "better than" and would beat easily otherwise. So I think additionally leeway needs to be granted there. But I also think Strength of Schedule, while it should a very strong consideration in candidate selection, should only take you so far. Losing to clearly inferior teams repeatedly can't be rewarded just because you managed to put it all together once or twice. In short, your team clearly deserved to be in more than that other team, and whoever says otherwise is clearly bias and hates college football
@lostbuckeye22
@lostbuckeye22 Сағат бұрын
Herbie is the biggest sellout of all time. When he is running that mouth I have to mute the tv. i used to be proud of him but now he is just a mouthpiece for the most obnoxous conference on this planet. the SEC
@MrTagappliedfor
@MrTagappliedfor Сағат бұрын
Before I start this video I’d bet they disregard and doubt Ga like they’ve done all season.
@jdtheguitartist
@jdtheguitartist 43 минут бұрын
To be fair, they don’t actually watch the tape. And they can’t actually call Indiana mid like they are
@MrTagappliedfor
@MrTagappliedfor 20 минут бұрын
@ yep, I’m moving on.. less bs on others channels.
@lostbuckeye22
@lostbuckeye22 Сағат бұрын
Herbie is a wad!
@andymoats4143
@andymoats4143 Сағат бұрын
Danny with the banger of year! “maybe they even have a committee member who lets us in” well played sir!!!
@WhatevrHpnsHpns
@WhatevrHpnsHpns Сағат бұрын
THEY HAVE PLAYED A DEFENSE LIKE PENN STATE. TtHEY PLAYED oREGON!!
@Ristofec
@Ristofec Сағат бұрын
SEC is super overrated. It’s an echo chamber over there. They believe they’re good simply because they’re in the SEC. The Big Ten is the true powerhouse
@NIKE-Duck
@NIKE-Duck Сағат бұрын
~ Will Howard vs Dillon Gabriel.. Hmm... Tennessee is a garbage team.. Ohio State LITERALLY just lost to Michigan two weeks ago. Ryan Day was going to get fired... Now people think Ohio State is some dominant team lol.. They have zero consistency
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
Don't say we didn't warn you. I have watched this program for 50 yrs. When they drop one to Michigan they finish pissed off! Should be fun.
@nateisinvincible
@nateisinvincible Сағат бұрын
Why are we ignoring the fact the ND's best win during the regular season is Army? Their stats are inflated because of the shitty competition they played. On the other hand, UGA had the toughest schedule in the country and beat 3 playoff teams
@TheRealRaz909
@TheRealRaz909 48 минут бұрын
Why are we ignoring the fact that Georgia lost to Georgia Tech, which ND beat belt to ass? Tennessee lost worse to OSU than Indiana whom the Irish also handled. SEC dominance is over in the era of NIL and the Transfer Portal. You better hope Georgia doesn't walk into this game thinking this is just another Brian Kelly led Notre Dame team like 2020 or 2012 because Marcus Freeman will have those boys jacked.
@nateisinvincible
@nateisinvincible 45 минут бұрын
@ another delusional ass mf bringing up some transitive property shit that never correlates to reality 😂😂😂
@southbender5676
@southbender5676 44 минут бұрын
​@@TheRealRaz909 preach brotha
@jdtheguitartist
@jdtheguitartist 44 минут бұрын
@@TheRealRaz909lost huh. Case in point
@nateisinvincible
@nateisinvincible 44 минут бұрын
@ if the only thing ND can brag about is a win over Tech without Haynes King, then that schedule is truly garbage 💀
@steveharriman7128
@steveharriman7128 Сағат бұрын
Indiana beat defending National Champion Michigan just a few weeks before that Michigan team handled Ohio State yet again. Herbie has turned into a lazy ESPN corporate clown
@kevinBarr-gy5go
@kevinBarr-gy5go 2 сағат бұрын
Penn ST pulled their staters in 4th Quarter 3 series
@BobaFett5474
@BobaFett5474 2 сағат бұрын
Tom, Gunner played for ONE half in a SEC CHAMPIONSHIP game. He made one bad mistake, but ended up being the reason UGA won. You sound so sour.
@James-n2m4l
@James-n2m4l Сағат бұрын
He sucks
@MrDellasc
@MrDellasc 2 сағат бұрын
Nikon U better win a title this year or next year, because NIKE is hemorrhaging money. They lost $ 28 billion in one day this past June, and their stock is tanking. A couple of years ago it was worth $128 a share, now, about $76 a share, and is still dropping. Just like KODAK or SEARS, once big brands start to decline like NIKE is, it’s very hard for them to recover their former glory, and it’s only a matter of time till the shareholders start saying we can’t continue to fund Phils pet project at his alma mater when we’re losing $$$$$.
@Abnrav
@Abnrav 2 сағат бұрын
All the arguments side, once the admitees are in the bracket, they should at least match the bracket to the team rankings. Oregon vs Ohio St in rd 2 is ridiculous considering that two of Texas, Ariz st, Penn St and Boise st are going to the next round. Aside from we've already seen it once, that match up is more like a final.
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 2 сағат бұрын
Buckeyes will beat Oregon by double digits on a neutral field. Should have won the first game. Ducks will fold hard when Ohio State smacks them in the mouth.
@That_Team_Out_West
@That_Team_Out_West Сағат бұрын
Casual fairweather fan alert 🚨 watch out! The casuals are out in full force! The clear 2 best teams this season and you act like there is a huge gap 🤡 go kiss your boyfriend bubba 💀
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
I agree...Ohio State is way more physical than Oregon. Better defense and they seem to have all had a long talk with the coaches after the michigan fiasco. They came back for this and want to be turned loose. It will be fun to watch.
@hamidnooristani4295
@hamidnooristani4295 14 минут бұрын
We will see you guys never respect Oregon. You guys always talk shit about Oregon, but you’re gonna find out on January 1
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 11 минут бұрын
@@That_Team_Out_West Casual fan? I go all the way back to Woody and Archie kid. So funny you immediately go on the personal attack. That’s Liberal Oregon in a nutshell though. We played terrible the first game and still should have won. Can’t wait to come back to your comments with my bucket 🪣 to catch all your delicious tears. Oregon WILL fold when Ohio State smacks them in the mouth. 🤫
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895
@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 8 минут бұрын
@@gtb5216 Yeah, September was a long time ago now. Look at all the other message boards. Their fans are so nervous about what’s coming. You couldn’t get a greased needle up Oregon’s ass right now. #1 overall seed and won’t even win a game.
@LouCyphir
@LouCyphir 2 сағат бұрын
I also think Penn State has not faced a Jeanty as Boise has not faced a Penn State like defense
@Abnrav
@Abnrav 2 сағат бұрын
Late to this but complaining about the first round is ridiculous. How is this past weekend any different than wild card weekend most NFL seasons? Home team torches the wild card team and they move on to division round, which is usually closer. By the way,, this year Cincy is likely not making the playoffs nor Miami while Houston is in as will likely Denver. Not that Cincy or Miami are all that great but one could argue that those two teams have a better shot at winning it all than the two that are in and are both better teams. Play this 12 team format enough times and the year wll come round for the sweet hert underdog that makes it to the final and wins or loses, wouldn't really matter and then everyone will be lauding how great the playoff format is and how the underdog would not have gotten in but for...
@Roaje-je6vx
@Roaje-je6vx 2 сағат бұрын
Dude in the middle def ready to cover 3 plates of pancakes in butter and syrup.
@modelman65
@modelman65 2 сағат бұрын
Oregon will also have Holden for the full game also!!!
@John-zx4sh
@John-zx4sh 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you Chip 12:50 🫡
@DavidRaymer-yx1tx
@DavidRaymer-yx1tx 2 сағат бұрын
I have think Ohio losing to Michigan will give them motivation to win this game and championship.
@jefferylorsung8846
@jefferylorsung8846 2 сағат бұрын
Hot take: Oregons defensive line will outshine Ohio States in this game. Last game Burch was out and Ohio State wasn't playing 2 backups on the oline.
@derekbell5333
@derekbell5333 2 сағат бұрын
These are key facts everyone seems to be ignoring. 🦆
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
Ok..it's your story...spin it how you want. Let's talk after the game!😉
@greggehrgood1834
@greggehrgood1834 3 сағат бұрын
Just think if pennstate could make a game plan that works in the first half and continue what they do in the 2nd half.
@Dcunited9090
@Dcunited9090 3 сағат бұрын
Hopefully the refs give the play time to finish so Oregon doesn't get robbed of getting turn overs in this one.
@kmarks97236
@kmarks97236 3 сағат бұрын
The game could be a rock fight but at the same time have people already forgotten how OSU 💩 the bed against Michigan? It’s like it never happened. OSU has been inconsistent all year long. One game against a team that couldn’t find its ass with both hands doesn’t mean much.
@jasonknowsball9323
@jasonknowsball9323 2 сағат бұрын
Every team has struggles. Lets not forget it took a late pick for oregon to beat a terrible wisconsin team. And before you make excuses about it being on the road i dont wanna hear that
@kmarks97236
@kmarks97236 2 сағат бұрын
@ we don’t make excuses. That was not our best game. But OSU supposedly holds its self to a higher standard. My point was that the narrative whiplash of Oregon being the favorite to win the championship to going to get boat raced is a big steaming pile of 💩 Btw, has Howard learned to read a digital clock?
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
Oh it will..tik tok!
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
​@@kmarks97236has Lanning learned to count to eleven? Or does he rely on tricks to beat his more talented opponents?
@kmarks97236
@kmarks97236 58 минут бұрын
@@gtb5216 upset that Day and Howard don’t know how to manage a clock 🤔. First game would not have been as close if the refs had used their eyes and called the int. And b4 you whine about the PI call, they should teach Burke not to extend his arms when he pushes off. I know he was irritated cuz Oregon owned his ass all night but you gotta be subtle
@ronfrederick9983
@ronfrederick9983 3 сағат бұрын
Really good show fellas !!!
@kahledalbert1210
@kahledalbert1210 3 сағат бұрын
Oregon is an underdog. Penn State and Texas are double digit favorites. Oregon would have been better off losing that big 10 championship game
@St8yaname
@St8yaname 3 сағат бұрын
I know there’s no such thing as a perfect game, but Oregon need to be as close to perfect as they’ve ever been, I’d rather not see ANY trick plays, no 2pt conversions, no onside kicks, just play textbook football.
@NIKE-Duck
@NIKE-Duck Сағат бұрын
~ Ohio State just lost to Michigan 2 weeks ago pal..... You think one win against a shit Tennessee team that couldn't handle the cold all of a sudden makes Ohio State that much better
@gtb5216
@gtb5216 Сағат бұрын
​​@@NIKE-Duckthey are a better more physical team than Oregon. That Brain fart with Michigan will be the Ducks undoing...its coming boys!
@stevemckibben1201
@stevemckibben1201 7 минут бұрын
If my Ducks fly relaxed free an have fun they'll win comfortably. No stress just play ball. Guaranteed Day and the whole Ohio team are stressed wire tight. Ain't nobody got time for that😂
@petepopoff2236
@petepopoff2236 3 сағат бұрын
You keep down playing asu and keep given them ammunition and you are going find out that you have opened Pandora's box
@JPSandro1
@JPSandro1 3 сағат бұрын
I have no idea who you guys are, this podcast popped up probably because I’m following Arizona State and peach bowl stuff? But you know nothing about ASU . For one, we have three other pretty good receivers, including number 12 who didn’t play all year because he redshirted, but is 6’4 and very Jordan Tyson like. Also, Tyson is making noise like it’s a possibility he’s going to play…. We’ll go with our 14 point underdog and be that team that was picked to finish last in the big 12.
@C63RHtown
@C63RHtown 3 сағат бұрын
You all understand there is something called matchup. Why do we compare how one team beat another teams means nothing.
@kmarks97236
@kmarks97236 3 сағат бұрын
👍
@marshallatkins1
@marshallatkins1 3 сағат бұрын
The USA Soviet game in 1980 was the semi final game not the gold medal game
@flops165b
@flops165b 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you for that rant, Chip. That was the appropriate reaction ❤
@blizzardwarning5198
@blizzardwarning5198 3 сағат бұрын
Every team has a good opening drive against Penn State. We fans just sigh and know it gets better.
@kevinchandler179
@kevinchandler179 3 сағат бұрын
Very good point buddy, I agree!!! It's almost like it takes the first drive, then our elite defense gets comfortable and lights out!!!! WE ARE
@clareomarfran
@clareomarfran 3 сағат бұрын
Tom is right. The college game has become a television show. That's why you have the spectacle of games starting at 11 o'clock in the morning and taking 4 hours to complete 60 minutes of play-it's all about the money. That's also why you'll hear no complaints from the schools, coaches, and players-because everyone is enriched.
@RB-.-
@RB-.- Сағат бұрын
All coaches do is complain lol
@jimsomerville3924
@jimsomerville3924 3 сағат бұрын
@39:13, Chip hits the nail on the head- the CFB community is obsessed with identifying the "best" team rather than who wins the championship at end of season. Nobody cares about crowning the best NFL team, just who won the Super Bowl, which is not necessarily the same. For CFB, it probably stems from old bowl days where there was a jumble of disparate bowls to crown a bunch of champs. That lead to a ton of bickering about who was tops. The thing is, that was part of its tribalistic charm. Now it's just soulless money grabs.
@brandenrule3123
@brandenrule3123 4 сағат бұрын
You had me at “ I don’t want to come off like a douche, but….”
@thorslate4010
@thorslate4010 4 сағат бұрын
Hherbie is an idior
@Arkbuck
@Arkbuck 4 сағат бұрын
No respect for herbie
@mauricegotit
@mauricegotit 4 сағат бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised if Boise date wins penn state finds ways to lose big games & bowling green moved the ball on them 🤷‍♂️ but I do hope they win 😂
@redscoot9871
@redscoot9871 4 сағат бұрын
Best episode you guys have done in a while. Anyone who disagrees with Kirk is apparently a lunatic fringe fan. It’s shameful how hard he shills for his corporation’s preferred conference. I still disagree with Tom that 12 is too many tho. More football is always good.
@hossoutdoors-n-wildlife6199
@hossoutdoors-n-wildlife6199 4 сағат бұрын
BSU 39-38 OT
@davezedman
@davezedman 3 сағат бұрын
Someone needs to win Bro
@hossoutdoors-n-wildlife6199
@hossoutdoors-n-wildlife6199 2 сағат бұрын
@davezedman hahaha I edited to BSU 39-38 OT
@ponyboyc
@ponyboyc 4 сағат бұрын
Either they stack the box and we kill them on the quick pass or they don't and we kill them on the run. Penn st almost botched BGSU snuck pass USC in overtime and played a rough minnesota game. They didn't dominate. SMU handed them a crushing 14-0 lead. There D was getting after penn st and making some stops before they crushed there own souls
@calebtalks2009
@calebtalks2009 4 сағат бұрын
Can we stop acting like the Tennessee blowout is somehow a negative against the people complaining about the field. Tennessee also had a weak schedule for an SEC team. One of the problems with the format now is that quality of wins in losses < number of wins and losses. That is a real issue. Bud himself is a proponent of FSU leaving the ACC because of what reason? The bottom teams not carrying their weight in his own words. Well how is it fair that a team like Indiana beat up on those type of teams and make the playoff over a team with a much better SOR. There is no incentive right now for teams to schedule real opponents OOC. In fact, it’s a detriment to do so.
@bobpool6636
@bobpool6636 4 сағат бұрын
If Committee used SOS or SOR, how was Indiana a top 10 team? They beat 3 teams with a winning record? The Committee refused to use SOR or SOS other than lip service. THAT IS WHY THESE GAMES WERE DECIDED BY HALFTIME. The SEC MUST leave CFP! SEC Championship Playoff TONS NIL Bonus No Committee! The Committee FAILED!