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@gauravgoswami6208
@gauravgoswami6208 9 күн бұрын
2:45:50 (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oamkgIqrgalnoLc) surrender
@osho1enrique504
@osho1enrique504 12 күн бұрын
Let me simplify this in three words "Watch the watcher"
@lucidmindrevolution
@lucidmindrevolution 18 күн бұрын
A summary: Core Instructions: Ignore all thoughts except the thought of surrender. Relax completely. Interchangeable Instructions: Ignoring all thoughts effectively leads to relaxation. Relaxing naturally involves ignoring all thoughts. Relaxation Defined: Relaxation doesn't necessarily mean feeling relaxed. It involves abstaining from using willpower or the sense of active doing. Ignoring Thoughts: Ignoring means regarding thoughts as irrelevant without suppressing or judging them. It's about preventing oneself from reacting to thoughts using willpower. Metaphor of Relaxation: Relaxation is likened to sitting in a recliner, observing thoughts without letting them disturb your state. The goal is to maintain relaxation despite thoughts that urge action. Vigilance in Relaxation: A form of wakefulness or vigilance is necessary to ensure thoughts don't lead to action. This vigilance isn't about physical stillness but about non-reaction through willpower. Non-Willful Action: Actions that happen automatically or spontaneously don't break the state of relaxation. It's the use of willpower and the sense of control that disrupts relaxation. State of True Relaxation: True relaxation doesn’t feel like anything specific; it’s a state free from identifying with specific feelings or thoughts. Ignoring Specific Thoughts: Thoughts about not feeling relaxed or doing surrender incorrectly should also be ignored. Recognizing that willpower itself is a thought to be ignored. Continuous Practice: Surrender involves continuous resistance to the mind's urge to react and control. Maintaining a relaxed posture while allowing the mind and body to act without personal involvement.
@dea1man
@dea1man Ай бұрын
Okay.
@jzkramer
@jzkramer Ай бұрын
Seems to me that Ramana Maharishi had something in common with Chaitanya Mahaprabhu; that is that they were outliers; figures who attained the goal of liberation through novel means, which aren't as effective for the average sadhaka as say for instance a dedicated dhyana/pranayama practise. IMO what Ramana taught is the endgame; a highly effective method of self inquiry that is really only suitable for sadhakas with lifetimes of formal meditation under their belt, whereas the sadhana of Chaitanya - vocalised mantra to a personified Godhead, is the entry level game for those who have lifetimes of formal meditation in front of them.
@jaycmacg
@jaycmacg 2 ай бұрын
Ramana and the concept of What I Am, self-inquiry, is just step one, a pointing and an opportunity to till the soil of the mind. But Who Am I is only step one. What Am I, or what comcepts compose reality is the next step, and moves one away from effort and achievement to understand...you require an introduction of Grace not to just understand the concepts, but to truly Know them. Advaita Vedanta provides a structure on how to live with this Knowing, and more understanding on what reality is.
@tolgakalavak
@tolgakalavak 2 ай бұрын
I did not understand
@kenkaplan3654
@kenkaplan3654 2 ай бұрын
Is it "undertanding" the reality or "experiencing it."
@JordanAfifi
@JordanAfifi 3 ай бұрын
So you don't think people with regular or shitty mental states can't become free from never or sometimes feeling content to feeling content constantly under any feelings or events and never crave more happiness again because that's what a true form of enlightenment looks like! You're just rambling. People get enlightened some grow up and live their whole life enlightened but most people aren't enlightened and crave for more
@donsoley746
@donsoley746 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand. If I think that the real me is behind my eyes - why does that stop me having such an awareness!.. ? I don’t see the problem with I being aware of me.
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 3 ай бұрын
Because you cannot be that which you are aware of. If you were aware of it, there would not be any distance -- any boundary -- between you and it to distinguish it as a separate thing. If you were a table, you would not be able to be aware OF the table as separate from you. So what you are aware of cannot, obviously, be the one that is aware of the thing. Of course you can call any object whatever you want. You can say "the table is me, why can't it be me?" But that doesn't get at the point, which is -- where and what is the observer? The observer cannot be the observed.
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 ай бұрын
You can't DO acceptance
@tyelordietrich4268
@tyelordietrich4268 4 ай бұрын
Wow, so well said. Thankyou.
@veronicaspendlove
@veronicaspendlove 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know how much I needed this. Thank you, algorithms ❤ Sincerely appreciate these tools.
@mohanlalrampersad490
@mohanlalrampersad490 4 ай бұрын
What's is yur problem? Why would anyone want to be enlightened? What nonsense about true self? What you are? You are a piece of shit Bullshitting people like every other indian gurus. I is found on your Dick.
@omerta316
@omerta316 28 күн бұрын
Like this, you'll never be enlightened
@mohanlalrampersad490
@mohanlalrampersad490 28 күн бұрын
I know 😄😅😆 and so will you😂😄
@omerta316
@omerta316 28 күн бұрын
@@mohanlalrampersad490 you don't know
@mohanlalrampersad490
@mohanlalrampersad490 28 күн бұрын
😄😆 neither do you nor the dick on the roof top. BULLSHIT
@david203
@david203 4 ай бұрын
A teacher usually has only one chance to be noticed in the crowded spiritual marketplace. That is why arranging to have clear audio is so important. I couldn't judge the quality of this teacher from the video.
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 ай бұрын
Whatever comes up, relax and release.
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 ай бұрын
I particularly enjoyed the part regarding required and consistent effort. Remind me of nisargadatta's "save all of your time and energies for breaking the wall your mind has built around you"
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 4 ай бұрын
"the highest teaching is not to grasp"
@mettwurstjochen
@mettwurstjochen 4 ай бұрын
Is this the actual reason why to increase prana, to "make the jump" between laya or the light?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 4 ай бұрын
No, any connection with prana is extremely indirect at best.
@mettwurstjochen
@mettwurstjochen 4 ай бұрын
Hm 😐 then what is the idea of raising prana?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 4 ай бұрын
@@mettwurstjochen I don’t think in terms of raising prana. A quiet mind is useful for the practice because it enables greater concentration and therefore discernment.
@mettwurstjochen
@mettwurstjochen 4 ай бұрын
I really really like how you describe it. That the illusion is set inside something real. Yet i was always wondering. Do we perceive nothing of the true self while we are in the illusion(A) or is it a continuum (B)? (A) What i mean is, does the love or peace that we can feel while being in the illusion (as i am) is seperate from the "true/deeper bliss"? (B) So to say " the more quiet the more we perceive of the self" and therefore love and bliss intensifies?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 4 ай бұрын
Everything you perceive is the Self. It's simply that when the Self is perceived in a certain mode of mind it *appears* to be something other than the love and bliss that it always in fact is. When it is perceived in another mode of mind (a quiet mind), the love and bliss becomes more apparent.
@mettwurstjochen
@mettwurstjochen 4 ай бұрын
So answer B) ?!
@ankukreja7
@ankukreja7 4 ай бұрын
Wow! This was beautifully stated. 💛
@warrenford6503
@warrenford6503 4 ай бұрын
😕 Promo-SM
@claudelebel49
@claudelebel49 5 ай бұрын
Coffee break satsang,,👍
@Danademedina1
@Danademedina1 5 ай бұрын
This is such a great video.
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 5 ай бұрын
this is not self help. this is not relief. none of that. if your question has these as your basic assumption please try to catch this before you ask it. the whole problem is with clinging to things. that's why you don't have peace in the first place. so clearly if you cling to the peaceful states that the practice brings, you will be causing yourself a problem. yes peaceful states occur while doing the practice but we need to remember that clinging to them is exactly the hell we are seeking peace from. this has to be clear. you are here because you finally realized that all the other self help crap out there is temporary and not nearly the real peace. but now you must be mature enough to see that perpetuating the clinging to the peace is, in fact, the suffering. so yes enjoy the peace momentarily as a nice respite if you need a break but the goal remains absolute dissolution of the identity only. yes it takes work. yes it can seem onerous or even impossible at times. however, it is the only mature perspective and will lead you directly to the place that "you", ironically, can never arrive at. it will be peace that will arrive back into itself.
@raushanpandey2223
@raushanpandey2223 5 ай бұрын
Namaskar sir, I try to do self inquiry as much as possible in my daily life. Me and my family cannot understand English much so I had a humble request if you could make a video or two explaining the process of self inquiry and what actually is enlightenment in Hindi it would be very helpful to me and my family in India
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 5 ай бұрын
I don't speak Hindi, sorry
@hughzimmerman3518
@hughzimmerman3518 5 ай бұрын
😏 "promo sm"
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 5 ай бұрын
it's not so mysterious this business of how "my duties" will continue post liberation. take, for example, a ball rolling down a hill. the momentum of the ball rolling down the hill basically forces it to continue in a certain direction. is it possible for it to stop suddenly and start levitating and then go backwards? anything is possible but it's surely not likely. similarly the body/mind has gained a certain momentum over the lifetime. so when the illusion of doership goes, it is cerrtainly possible that you might want to start going in a completely different direction in your life. however, due to your momentum, this new post-liberation alignment will likely take time. it of course can be sudden but most likely the change will be slower. you will likely need to first slow down your momentum to a halt before proceeding in a new direction. hence, this fear of a sudden and violent and dramatic change is not well founded. the fantasy of just falling off a cliff or teleporting to some other dimension when the doer disappears is seen to be complete imagination........or is it? ha ha. proceed with the inquiry my fellow students of stubbornia....
@vvv2k12
@vvv2k12 5 ай бұрын
Hey wanted to ask a q... So do the dream characters in sleep dream have their own experiential field of awareness (visual, auditory, thoughts, emotions)? How about this waking dream? Do all the characters have their own experiences or is it just one character? Wether that's me or you is a different discussion.
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 5 ай бұрын
that question cannot be answered in words. You'll have to find out who is asking the question
@vvv2k12
@vvv2k12 5 ай бұрын
@@SiftingtotheTruth 😩 thanks
@vvv2k12
@vvv2k12 5 ай бұрын
@@SiftingtotheTruth would you recommend the headless way? Also what are your thoughts on Jim Newman/Tony parsons (radical non duality)
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 5 ай бұрын
@@vvv2k12I tend not to comment on other teachers. I recommend the way I set forth in my videos and books
@vvv2k12
@vvv2k12 5 ай бұрын
@@SiftingtotheTruth they're not teachers, they don't provide any prescriptions or homework. Just an uncompromising simple direct message. They don't use concepts like ego etc but they refer to it as a "tension" in the body that could fall away, but that falling away has no cause. Is that accurate
@PrecioustheMovie1
@PrecioustheMovie1 5 ай бұрын
I teach this stuff and I could easily just memorize this speech and repeat it. It’s that good. Thank you.
@BilfordBumpkins
@BilfordBumpkins 6 ай бұрын
One thing that has always stopped me is the idea of performing this with the responsibility of having a child. So on one hand, I get it - to whom is this responsibility to get up and feed my child appearing to? Well, to me - where am I? Right here… no that can’t be me, I am observing, and on and on. My child is crying now. I feel guilt. Who feels the guilt?…. Is the objective in a fictional (but realistic) case like this that eventually, and I suppose, instinctually the body will take over with no effort from “the doer”?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 6 ай бұрын
Well, the "body" -- or God, or the universe, or what have you -- is already in control. It's not that the doer is involved now, and later it won't be. The doer is entirely a delusion. Whether one is a good parent or a bad parent is not in your control. It ALREADY is not in your control.
@GreatThing43
@GreatThing43 6 ай бұрын
I had a doubt, How do I know that the thing I am trying to be continuously aware of is the "I" and not just some thought or body sensation or imagination. I read a little of Sri Ramana Maharshi's work and he said we have to hold the thought of I every waking moment but How do I know that I am really holding the "I" He is talking about. Thank you 🙏
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 6 ай бұрын
That's exactly what everything I say about self-inquiry points out. This is not a bug, this is a feature. If you think you have it, you don't. You hunt it. Please watch many more of my videos carefully.
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 6 ай бұрын
these students really don't know what they have in front of them. it sometimes feels like a graduate school lecture to middle schoolers. i mean absolutely no disrespect but there are levels to this. i think the simplicity of your instruction betrays the subtlety and discernment required to actually make progress with this technique. for example, how can one be "disappointed" that they can never get this intellectually? this displays incredible spiritual immaturity imo. the intellect should be extremely aroused by the possibility that it has met its match, in a certain sense. i think that some basic level of spiritual maturity and/or self awareness is required in order to embark on such investigations. with all this said, i'm sure that the students will still make progress due simply to the sheer force and power of the instruction. however, i still could not stop this comment from coming out the way it did. such is life when there is no more need to apologize for what a body/mind felt it had to do. trying to figure out who would apologize immediately introduces the fallacy. but only if you actually try to really figure it out my fellow students of stubbornia. ha ha. i kid, i kid. anyway, that is all i have to say on this matter.
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 6 ай бұрын
extraordinarily powerful way of talking about this. extremely high level. much much gratitude.
@GreatThing43
@GreatThing43 6 ай бұрын
Can you explain how surrender and self-inquiry lead to the development of the 3 skills that Shinzen young said is needed for enlightenment : Concentration, sensory clarity and equanimity. And how surrender and self-inquiry help us to realize that everything is empty and therefore everything is one. Also if you have time can you tell me about impermanence and jhanas and how to get into a jhana for the first time. Thank you
@geovaniraffaelli4508
@geovaniraffaelli4508 6 ай бұрын
I have experience with both systems. Surrender as far as I understand is essentially Shinzen's "Do Nothing" meditation, both involve surrendering investment in dualities and freeing oneself from the burden of effort. The only difference is that "Do Nothing" is a little bit more passive, it only asks you to attempt to drop clinging to a duality whenever it effortlessly appears in awareness, whereas with surrender you need to exert the small effort to maintain an intention to protect that state of non-investment, but eventually that's taken from you. As for how these practices help in realizing emptiness, I've only had glimpses, but if the experiencer is seen to be empty then it follows that experience too must be, since one needs the other to exist. Maybe Akilesh can chime in and give his 2c
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 6 ай бұрын
is there a way we can have less background activity during such important dialogues? i apologize if this question comes off as insensitive in any way to the residents.
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 6 ай бұрын
it's something we'll have to take into account in future videos :)
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 6 ай бұрын
these students seem very stubborn. but maybe i'm projecting. actually that's the only thing that could be happening. sir this is some of the most pristine expression ever recorded. thank you for these precious recordings.
@paragozar
@paragozar 6 ай бұрын
I forgot what I was going to say....about all of it. Just as well.
@chrisbeatrice2990
@chrisbeatrice2990 6 ай бұрын
This is so great. I particularly got something from the talk starting around 00:30 about each individual's own psychological realities and how that relates to practice / liberation.
@Gandalfsson1
@Gandalfsson1 6 ай бұрын
No english text ?
@ProfoundFamiliarity
@ProfoundFamiliarity 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Akilesh
@grmstevens
@grmstevens 7 ай бұрын
How to deal with fear related to the insight that 'I' dont exist?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 7 ай бұрын
It’s not that the I doesn’t exist. It’s that it isn’t what it seems. Anyhow, find the one who is afraid.
@grmstevens
@grmstevens 7 ай бұрын
@@SiftingtotheTruth Thank you for replying. I know it's not practical to explain through text, but can you explain a bit more about "we are not who we think we are".
@grmstevens
@grmstevens 7 ай бұрын
Or that the I is not what it seems
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 7 ай бұрын
@@grmstevens I seems to itself to be a core center contrasted against an outside “not me.” In fact I have no such boundaries. I am not separate in that way.
@manimehrok
@manimehrok 8 ай бұрын
Great advice for seekers as always
@ActionFigure10
@ActionFigure10 8 ай бұрын
Great to have you back! The sound is at quite a low volume btw
@jerrythomas9833
@jerrythomas9833 8 ай бұрын
If follow rupert he says all metaphors are limited.
@TruthSeeker-kg2yx
@TruthSeeker-kg2yx 9 ай бұрын
You articulated this so incredibly well! This was powerful! Thank you!
@pairadeau
@pairadeau 9 ай бұрын
this is dave chapelle level nonduality standup. thank you wise friend.
@DrPotatoHead
@DrPotatoHead 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant example, thank you! Is there a connection of this with psychoanalysis and how most activities are done and governed by the unconscious? So is will-power completely an illusion or does it have any importance?
@SiftingtotheTruth
@SiftingtotheTruth 9 ай бұрын
It's a great point. There is a kind of connection, yes, but analysis takes it from a somewhat different angle and perspective. Willpower is a useful concept so long as you feel you have it -- "it" (whatever feels like willpower) should be applied either to the practices of self-inquiry or surrender and/or if necessary to doing those things that help you become wholer emotionally and physically, preparing yourself thereby for surrender/self-inquiry.
@lphantman
@lphantman 10 ай бұрын
for many people once the body (somatic )sensations are exposed and extinguished we can then realize the mind is a simiar trap. It too once exposed will yeild to the true no self or expose our original true nature.
@hansgouda8593
@hansgouda8593 10 ай бұрын
That is why the Ashtavakra Samhita and the words of Ramana were my last books. It was enough to understand everything from my own research. All this was long before the internet existed. Now I came across interesting people like Rupert and was pleased with how easy it all became to discuss. My experience is that many writings from any tradition can contribute to greater understanding.