yeah i couldn’t agree more on this, the ambient lighting was better in the pre facelift. I will say though that the LEDs under the display on the facelift gets brighter, so it’s a little more noticeable even in daytime conditions

o.O.. this is a US model, in California. The Hybrid Limited in the US comes with all of the options you mentioned, however, the N-Line and below do not

@@jacyy my bad, you’re absolutely correct. Didn’t realize this was a hybrid. My N line doesn’t have those features but the Canadian and Korean N lines do have all those hybrid options.

really is a shame hyundai skimps on the features in north america. if it weren’t for that, i would’ve gotten the n-line over the hybrid

@@jacyy Facts. I like the sporty/luxurious look of the N line and of course the speed. But I love the features extra features the Hybrid offers. You still chose well 🫡

You don’t need to! The battery automatically recharges while you drive, while you brake, and basically anytime the engine is on. The car will always maintain 25% minimum SoC. The battery in the car is so small that it doesn’t really take much energy to charge up.

Yep! One of those heavy duty suction cups with threading for the camera. The ones with the little button to pump the air out. Holds to the glass really well

BTW, the hybrid version is the one I'm after. Unfortunately, as of now the hybrid Sonata isn't available in Canada. Extremely frustrating.

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Sorry no, BMW is not compatible with openpilot since it doesn’t use CAN/CAN-FD

After a while, you kinda get used to just zoning it out, so not really…

@@jacyy yeah but if it’s too big because of where it’s positioned I could get fined where I live lol

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The cutoff is really only noticeable if your headlights are pointed at a wall, but on the road, you don’t notice it at all

@@jacyy thank you for your response. I appreciate it because it makes me comfortable moving forward with the purchase.

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Not great, lots of issues that requires someone to really spend the time to fix. But it does work decently on the highway, enough to keep the car going without interventions for miles

Yeah the cluster design is definitely a downgrade.. I saw that in Korea these cars received an OTA update to include new cluster designs, but no idea if we’ll get the same update in the US.

Yeah, I owned a 2021 Sonata too and liked that it stretched throughout the dash. It just wasn't super bright. The ambient lighting on the 2024 is nice, but is just isolated to under the screen, and is basically only visible to the driver and front passenger.

This is a mix of both! Hyundai’s stock system is controlling the gas/brakes, while openpilot is taking over the steering. Hyundai’s stock system is good, but requires lane lines to be visible and can sometimes be hesitant on sharper curves. openpilot improves that and with their e2e model capabilities, does not require any lane lines visible to function.

@@jacyy Ok cool! Hopefully picking one up tomorrow. And I'll have to look into that openpilot system

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@jacyy that's awesome, I'm sad to find out it doesn't work with my car due to Ford doing this weird "lockout" thing every 10 seconds.

yes it goes through the car

@@jacyy thanks

@@lebbarmohamed76yes, it does.

Unfortunately there is no way of putting the car into EV only mode. There is a “Green Zone” mode, which will maximize EV mode when near parks/schools, but that’s about it. It kinda makes sense that it doesn’t have this option since it would realistically only last you a few miles anyways before you completely drain the battery. I’ve noticed that the way the Hybrid system works is that if you’re constantly on the gas (like on the freeway), it will use the engine until your battery gets recharged to 75%, then kick into EV only mode until 50%. You can always let go of the gas pedal and start coasting a bit to force it into EV mode as well. I love the car, no regrets on buying it. There are some rattles that have developed over my 3 months of ownership now, but nothing too crazy. Regarding noise, I just recently rented a 2021 Toyota Camry and WOW it is SO LOUD in comparison. I will say, the Sonata does have a bit more wind noise, but overall noise levels are better in the Sonata. I can’t stand how loud the Camry is even at low speeds.

Well N-Line is like the race version. Usually all brands that have race versions are always less than limited or touring versions because of weight.

Also are you using the harness for the '21-'23 model year?

@@mrwolf2898 yes, same harness! (Hyundai A). It's very easy to hide the wire; I took it one step further and pulled the wire behind the side airbag (this is not necessary tbh), that pillar cover pops off and pops back in with a clip. You can then hide everything behind the weather stripping, which you can then funnel into the cabin fuse box area/OBD2 area for a super clean look.

Great question but I think this comes down to your preferences. Do you 1) want leather & ventilated seats? 2) want more tech? (e.g. 360 camera, front parking sensors, full digital cluster, ambient lighting, 3) want a panoramic sunroof? If anything above is a dealbreaker to you, then get the Limited Hybrid. Personally some of these are dealbreakers to me, so I didn’t even bother shopping for the SEL and went straight for the Limited. $7K is not cheap for an upgrade, but if you think about it like this; $38k msrp for the Limited trim is a very good deal for what you get.

I just test drove both trim packages and for me, a few more bling lights and a potentially leaky sun roof wasn’t worth the extra $7K. I drove home the SEL model and dropped the extra $7k onto my down payment. That made the most sense to me but of course, your mileage may vary.

Thanks! Are you referring to the giant device on the windshield? If so, that is a “comma three x”, which technically is a driver assist accessory rather than a dashcam. My main dashcam for the car (shown all the way on the top right of the video) is a Viofo A129 Plus Duo

@@jacyy wow so you can use OpenPilot on the 2024 Sonata ?????

This turned out to be a bug! A recent OTA update fixed it!! My eyes hurt no more

Yes, but you would lose out on auto emergency braking when using openpilot to control gas/brakes. Fyi, newer Hyundai models give you the choice to select reaction, acceleration, and distance for SCC; my 24 Sonata follows closer and accelerates faster than my 21 Sonata did

this is stock openpilot!

@@jacyy may I make sure of the website link? Thanks~