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@t590-j3z
@t590-j3z 5 күн бұрын
no empathy these days , that company
@johnmoore3479
@johnmoore3479 8 күн бұрын
how many crew members do you need to operate a boat like this
@julieta203
@julieta203 13 күн бұрын
28T mast!
@jagracershoestring609
@jagracershoestring609 14 күн бұрын
There is a You tube video elsewhere, where a previous captain explained the known design flaws of the boat. The manufacturers warned of exceeding a heel angle of 45 degrees, and it would flood and sink. The drop keel was meant to only be raised with no sail on in harbour. It was an expensive Gin Palace, not an Ocean Crossing yacht. When I was looking for an Ocean going yacht, I did a lot of design features on many different makes of boat, and the get out was to sell the boat unfinished, so that the finisher was then liable for faults, nasty.
@captneth-theroyalseacorp.6122
@captneth-theroyalseacorp.6122 16 күн бұрын
Breathtaking how she moves in the water.
@marcseclecticstuff9497
@marcseclecticstuff9497 16 күн бұрын
Gee, I want to buy my yacht from Italian Sea Group. I really like the way they instantly blame the crew and owner's for their design flaws that were unfortunately exposed by a severe weather event. I really hope they also blame the customer for any warranty work too like camper and motorhome builders do! Plus, the CEO said their boat was unsinkable and that seems like a pretty handy thing out in the middle of the ocean. So clearly the Bayesian had to sink due to the folks running it were utter morons. Speaking of stupid, I wonder how long the ISG CEO will stay in his position after his genius handling of this incident. If the ISG is going to sue somebody for damaging their reputation, it's the CEO they should be suing!
@chrisgriffiths2533
@chrisgriffiths2533 18 күн бұрын
"How could this Yacht Sink" It's Obvious, a Similar Thing is going on with Ships. Not Enough Design, Engineering and Effort with SAFETY.
@tinkeringwithmark1186
@tinkeringwithmark1186 18 күн бұрын
That boat started to take on water into the sunken decks at 45 degrees!
@marie-pascaleleonetti1555
@marie-pascaleleonetti1555 18 күн бұрын
Arrogance .
@pwhorselover
@pwhorselover 19 күн бұрын
They’ll probably never sell another yacht. It doesn’t take a genius to see suing the widow, who just lost her husband and daughter, isn’t the best move if you’re concerned about reputation.
@cliffansley1842
@cliffansley1842 20 күн бұрын
Finally, someone else is talking about the anchor; well at least saying that the Bayesian sunk while at anchor! The anchor and chain of a ship is designed to hold the bow of the ship into the wind during a storm so, when the ship was first blown around, did the anchor foul Somewhere under her, then came tight on the chain and flip her? There needs to be a full mapping of the anchor.
@q.e.d.9112
@q.e.d.9112 16 күн бұрын
That has been explained. The AIS tracks the boat’s heading from the main gyro compass. If this is turned off then displays assume that her heading is the same as her track which is computed from the, AIS incorporated, GNSS. So ‘Bayesian’ was probably head to wind while dragging her anchor, not doing that mad dance displayed on the AIS screens. The ‘Sir R.B-P’ had her compass running and it’s clear that she was riding pretty much head to wind. Mind you, the size of that mast might have made ‘Bayesian’ much more lively. The two vessels are so dissimilar that any comparison is pretty futile, and microbursts, like tornadoes, are so localised that total destruction can happen within 50 metres of places that are untouched.
@frijobecker
@frijobecker 20 күн бұрын
Your wonderful technical explanation points mainly to technical, nautical and meteorological issues. I am listening very interested and learn new things every day. However: Just like I dont believe in three sailors and a rented boat beeing responsible for bombing a transcontinental gas pipeline, I also dont believe in any of those stories regarding the Bayesian. In the end, the victorious party of a very surprising billion dollar lawsuit outcome in the US have been all killed. Without exception. Be it during a morning run, be it in the middle of the night near Palermo on a yacht. My explanation would be: Can someone influence the wheather? Possibly by using military machinery or with the help of chemicals? Could someone possibly direct a submarine under this boat and lift it up sideways or tow the anchor chain down? Because if you ask: Qui bono? - the answer is very clear. I dont believe in conspiracy, but I also dont believe in coincidence
@glassini
@glassini 20 күн бұрын
Hewlett Packard also filed a lawsuit against the Widow straight after the death. They lost in the first case. Just despicable.
@randywise5241
@randywise5241 21 күн бұрын
The vent design is the cause of the sinking.
@j0n7a
@j0n7a 22 күн бұрын
Flame?
@j0n7a
@j0n7a 22 күн бұрын
Why you cut after 0.25 second? When yacht is up...
@michaeltaylor8835
@michaeltaylor8835 22 күн бұрын
So many weird stories around this
@broshuisalbert2413
@broshuisalbert2413 23 күн бұрын
Was the Bayesian sailing under British flag or Dutch flag? I have seen pictures with the Dutch flag and Red Ensign.
@BTCxyz369
@BTCxyz369 23 күн бұрын
😂All i can see is a Watertight Door
@q.e.d.9112
@q.e.d.9112 16 күн бұрын
That leads down to the galley/crew quarters. What the photos don’t show are the two large doors leading directly into the main saloon, both well away from the centreline and either, in my estimation - I’ve sailed yachts for over 60 years - would almost certainly be below the waterline if the yacht was laid flat on her side. It wouldn’t occur to even the most prudent seaman that these should be secured, while at anchor off a weather shore. In fact, it would hinder quick evacuation in the event of a far more likely danger: fire. There’s a thing called stress of weather and I think that this vessel met conditions that treated a 473 ton ship like a 5 ton yacht. But a 5 ton yacht is sealed up like a bottle and can spring back upright in seconds, while the 473 ton ship, with its vast indoor/outdoor well-deck leading directly to a stairway down to the accommodations, can’t. Once over beyond 73° she will lie on her side and simply fill. And, since that stairway comes up to starboard of the c/l, it would probably have been even quicker than if she’d gone over to Port. Poring over her deck plans and photos I think she would have filled and sunk in a very short time, perhaps as short as a minute or two.
@BTCxyz369
@BTCxyz369 2 күн бұрын
@@q.e.d.9112 how about this 50T retractable keel? Does it not affect the center of Gravity 🤣
@q.e.d.9112
@q.e.d.9112 2 күн бұрын
@@BTCxyz369 Yes it does. When it’s down she can (theoretically) recover from an 87° angle. If it’s up, she’ll capsize once she reaches 73°. However, the builder’s ship management documents state it should be up when at anchor. The noise problem is common to pretty much every centreboard yacht. TBH, nobody thought this big powerful vessel could be capsized by the wind, when at anchor. In strong winds yachts at anchor invariably lie head to wind. It would take a rapid shift in wind direction coupled with hurricane force to cause her to lay over at 73°. If the wind shifts direction by 90° over a period of minutes the yacht simply swings on her cable to continue facing the wind but if it happens in seconds, then she could be caught on her beam. Those angles of “no-return” are theoretical and I’d bet good money they assume a dry ship. Any flooding will rapidly reduce them. Since she starts down flooding at 45° and, once her rail goes under, it will be rapid flooding into her main deck area, she may have reached her point of no return earlier than that theoretical 73°.
@paulhenry7
@paulhenry7 24 күн бұрын
It should be: BILLIONAIRE'S YACHT BAYESIAN SINKS
@jacobdanielkuiper5744
@jacobdanielkuiper5744 24 күн бұрын
No they did not discussed it, the lawyers are fired. The features of the yacht were also known and they paid good money for the cute door that chosen the water to come in. At least 300K.
@EvanBarr-uk3vk
@EvanBarr-uk3vk 24 күн бұрын
That another large sailing yacht right next to the Bayisian was knocked down flat & imidiatly righted itself ,snaped right back up.
@mohanfna
@mohanfna 24 күн бұрын
Perini really has a top heavy mast in management 😅
@mohanfna
@mohanfna 24 күн бұрын
The law firm must sue for damages from Italian Sea Group for damaging "their" reputation! That's the least they can do!!😮 Those passengers didn't have a chance against Mother Nature!
@george11419
@george11419 25 күн бұрын
I have never liked drop-keels on big boats. On sailing dinghies, they are fine. Barely acceptable on small sailing cruisers. But unacceptable on any boat more than 30 feet in length. The Bayesian should have had a ‘long’ keel.
@AustinWigley
@AustinWigley 25 күн бұрын
Walked by this $20 million dollar yacht every day for a week in Oahu and it just breaks my heart that someone (especially me!) is not out there sailing her. A beautiful ship. Pretty sure she's been sold now based on some googling.
@freddavidson9068
@freddavidson9068 25 күн бұрын
Never can figure out when "acts of god" intense weather events occur somebody needs to be blamed
@peterlbaldwin511
@peterlbaldwin511 25 күн бұрын
I have felt for some time, that many designers/builders of Luxury Yachts, whether Sailing or Motor, are more concerned with stylish design and opulent "boastful" features, than actual "sea-worthiness".. Apparently in the last minutes as the yacht heeled severely before actually sinking, there are stories of furniture, crockery and glassware being flung about ad lib.. I'd want furniture more fixed and necessary loose items, such as crockery and glassware securely stored..
@MortenK65
@MortenK65 25 күн бұрын
To torpedo your own company. It's funny how this is way worse damage than the widow could ever make.
@squireson
@squireson 26 күн бұрын
At sea those vents would be closed or at least the downwind vents would be closed. There is an assumption that there is greater safety from knockdowns while at anchor. Knockdowns at anchor *are* very rare.
@squireson
@squireson 26 күн бұрын
That was a testing shot from the yacht maker. Immediately after the backlash they withdrew with some plausibility. This sea group has displayed real sleaze in their defense of their reputation instead of just pointing out that the downburst is an extreme and rare event that it may not be reasonable to design against. Immediately blaming the crew on television before anything was known was an astounding decision.
@Xoman08
@Xoman08 26 күн бұрын
that lawsuit against the widow would had been an example of a "frivolous" lawsuit. The investigation is still ongoing. And we don't know yet the combination of factors (crew actions plus design flaws) ... But that 28 ton mast and those vents in the hull are not looking good. If the crew left the keel folded and some doors or vents open ... That would not had helped. In the end, it was a tragedy that could not had been foreseen under exceptional circumstances. It is a rarity for a superyatch to sink while being at anchor. Perini might have to review their designs and even perhaps issue an apology. We will see. Personally, I would not buy, even not board a yatch or catamaram with vents in the hull.
@Steve-m8s
@Steve-m8s 27 күн бұрын
Does this situation have some similarities to the Titan disaster? A billionaires death trap.
@richardwallinger1683
@richardwallinger1683 28 күн бұрын
I molded my own one metre racing R/C Yacht which was super successful .my design was marketed by Robbe GMBH in Germany under the name of WINDSTAR.. viewing the Bayesian performing in perfect sailing conditions it is clear that the hull design was excellent . Such a crying shame that NATURE unleashed it,s awesome power which was concentrated at the unlucky Bayesian .which was anchored as a sitting target . the very worst situation to be in when subjected to a raw sudden downburst storm .
@hubschenk1652
@hubschenk1652 28 күн бұрын
Pirini Navi's statements are completely inappropriate! From 4:30 onwards they show a 2-masted yacht, the sunken yacht was a Sketch (1-masted yacht) whose mast was much higher. This results in a higher leverage in crosswinds. In addition, according to investigations, the keel was not completely lowered. The insurance company has now acknowledged an "unforeseeable event" (storm) and has promised to cover the damage. But you can't compensate for human life with money.
@howardroark7726
@howardroark7726 28 күн бұрын
Excellent coverage. About the centreboard, I feel the skipper made the right decision. If the centreboard had been deployed and she was blown towards shore, the board could have snapped and Bayesian could have been holed below the waterline. Even messing around on a Laser costing a few thousand bucks any sailor would get the board up approaching the beach. As I understand it, she was anchored close to shore and did drag her anchor. While I am absolutely put off by the things the Perini boss is saying, I suspect he is not having an easy time. If the career of Enzo Ferrari is anything to go by, he is probably facing pretty rough treatment in the Italian press. Now with this misstep, there’s even more material to flog him with. Oh that poor widow Revtom Limited. As I’m sure you know, one-ship companies are an established way of limiting liability and insulating the shareholders from huge claims. What I find despicable is filing suit against the crew who actually put their lives at risk to save passengers.
@achitophel5852
@achitophel5852 29 күн бұрын
No mention anywhere of the main deck having a deep well towards the stern allowing access to the main accommodation, so designed that over the absurdly small angle of heel, water will pour down into the main spaces of the hull. Two large glass patio type doors are all there is between the deck and hull interior. A water spout sucks wind UP. A downblast hammers it down. Two diametrically opposed forces. I should have thought that the company has already followed its product. Who would buy even a lifebelt with its name on it?
@marianoschaller9066
@marianoschaller9066 29 күн бұрын
To be considered "blue water " every sailboat must be able to get back on her keel after a knock down or even when turned arround. It is a must. Even stay afloat with the keel on the air es questionable. Sinking??? Unacceptable.
@grahamjesson5464
@grahamjesson5464 29 күн бұрын
Am I the only person wondering why the hell you would want the most top heavy sail boat in the world. Was very interesting to hear the opinion on this incident by The Guy at Kraken. I hope that Mrs Lynch has the resolve to counter sue the unprincipled, uncaring manufacturers and designers. Imagine paying millions for a product only to be treated like that after it killed your family.
@MachTuck
@MachTuck 29 күн бұрын
This happened because of somebody`s negligence, or bad luck, an accident in other words. Law suits etc, ...thats a shame.
@ArronWherley-o3p
@ArronWherley-o3p Ай бұрын
Thiel Isle
@charlesreid9337
@charlesreid9337 Ай бұрын
The sinping 4 disc incompetent designer and company buy some people is mind blowing. The reports are coming out from other engineers something about how bad this design was. And crew talking about how cheap and underbuilt the systems were
@istra70
@istra70 Ай бұрын
Perini Navi - thinking that attack is best defense ! - for the design which is not sea worthy....that flooding came like Niagara waterfall down the side steps - passengers had no chance against tons of sea rushing in.... Who in the right mind is installing double sliding door on a sailing yacht ? Max lean angle of 42 or 44 deg ? - this is a joke ! Not sea worthy design - only rich NON - sailor can buy !
@artfulalias3984
@artfulalias3984 Ай бұрын
Angle of vanishing stability less than 90º! A down flood angle less than 45º! These are the specifications of a boat that will not recover from a knock down. Its plain as math right in her stability numbers. Enormous forward well deck reaching too near the hull edges. Enormous rear well deck reaching too near the hull edges. Well decks lead directly below decks through enormous non watertight "shopping mall" doors. She swamped like an overgrown open dinghy. The video of a large cruising catamaran tossed like an inflatable pool toy was interesting.
@MarkRodriguez-u9b
@MarkRodriguez-u9b Ай бұрын
Russel Radial
@VIDEOSVICEN
@VIDEOSVICEN Ай бұрын
Es muy fácil determinar lo ocurrido , Se hace una simulación sin mástil y seguramente se determinará que no hay manera posible de que el casco se escore 90 grados .. Luego se hace una simulación con el mastil y seguramente aparecerá la causa que propicio la escira tan pronunciada .. Una vez determinado el punto de escora máximo hay que analizar si en ese ángulo ya habría accesos de ventilación a la sala de maquina . Caso resuelto
@jmlark18
@jmlark18 Ай бұрын
Perini Navi conduct utterly reprehensible. Without knowing all the facts they immediately blamed the crew and now this lawsuit against the widow. The lady doth protest too much and in the fulness of time when this Bayesian Yacht is professionally examined for seaworthiness the flaws wont lie with the crew.
@Alex000113
@Alex000113 Ай бұрын
The lawsuit the 2nd nail in Perinis' coffin, the CEOs' comments the first, both despicable, both should be fired. The third may well be the upcoming accident report listing inadequate righting capability, lack of protection from water ingress (side vents and cockpit) and lack of escape hatches. I wonder if this boat was insured ?
@giordanomonese5141
@giordanomonese5141 Ай бұрын
Sarebbe interessante che ci spiegassero perché in 15 minuti l’equipaggio e alcuni ospiti non hanno allertato gli altri!! Personalmente non ho tutte le certezze che avete voi,
@dimitrisgiannatos9782
@dimitrisgiannatos9782 Ай бұрын
So never buy Perini super yachts !!