All 32bit software runs perfectly fine on a modern CPU and Windows 98. Don't forget that in Windows 10/11 there are still lots of 32bit software still running.

My main computer has a Ryzen 9 3900X and of course I have Windows 98 running... (with the help of Voodoo 3 PCI) If that Gigabyte motherboard has CSM then it should work. nVidia GPUs are working too, here I have 7900GS running in a multi boot setup 98 + XP + 11: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ-mhHp3pa96mLM

@@O_mores I only have PCIE x16 and x1 small port Can't a gs 7200 work with win98?

@@Glinckey My next video will be about installing nVidia PCI-E cards in Windows 98. If don't want to wait just read the instructions: archive.org/details/PTCHNVSZ

@@O_mores ohhhhhhy

Yes, but I did use this track in the past, even before TDNC started posting on KZbin. You can download it from here: freemusicarchive.org/music/BoxCat_Games/Nameless_the_Hackers_RPG_Soundtrack/BoxCat_Games_-_Nameless-_the_Hackers_RPG_Soundtrack_-_02_Mt_Fox_Shop/

@@O_mores I have absolutely no problem with this. It is a stock track so anybody can use this. It was just a bit unusual to hear this music on a different channel. Keep up the good work man. Respect and also thank you for providing the link because I was searching for the source 👍

1 cpu is to many 😢

It was a combination of me looking through the camera and that particular socket 1155 that had very tiny alignment notches that allowed some movement. Most socket have bigger alignment notches and in the end the CPU either is perfectly aligned or not...

Well, obviously ... you didn't know about these custom Voodoo 1 cards because you didn't subscribe to this tiny channel... :)

@@O_mores Obviously!

NT 4.0 rocks... What was a surprise for me is that it NT 4 works even in multiprocessor mode using a CPU released in 2023 with a BIOS from 2024. Check out this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6HYhqeCoLOJoLs

What's goin' on?

I found the drivers thank you.

Software released specifically for Windows 2000 should work in Windows 10/11 without any issues. Btw, standard 32bit programs released with Windows NT 3.51(1995) are still working in Windows 11. Most of them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3rFlolnd76shdE

Which one? :) adjective: dense; comparative adjective: denser; superlative adjective: densest 1. closely compacted in substance. "as the storm cleared, a dense fog came down" 2. informal (of a person) stupid. "Am I being dense? I don't quite understand"

A Voodoo 1 on 1997 hardware like a Pentium 200 MMX can reach about 20 FPS in Quake 2, while this card is doing 26FPS on 2.4Ghz CPU. So I guess a Voodoo 1 might be better, but again this card wasn't designed for games.

Any chance you can make a video about getting the Nvidia 7950 GT (or 7000 series in general) working on windows 98? As I understand it the 7000 series from Nvidia is the latest/fastest GPU series that can work under win 98.

@@guderian557 OK, we have a deal. Installing nVidia 7000 series on Windows 98 will be exactly my next video.

@@O_mores Great! Thank you! If you have a 512 MB card that would be even better as I have heard that those are hard to get to work in win 98!

Meanwhile... check out another cool card, which is slightly better while being single slot format, also released in 1997: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qZq6ipe6-se6s

Cool. What model do you have?

@@O_mores I got a TDZ 2000 gx1, and a TD- 310

There is no MSMT493, only CSMT4150A + MSMT415. Here is a picture with the back of the card: imgur.com/gallery/intergraph-realizm-ii-m0ivh8B

Who's the fossil? Quake 2 or this bad boy card? If I'm not wrong both are from 1997.

​@@roberto88958 we are the fossils....

@@roberto88958 the glorious dino card.

I hope I will get my hands on more hardware like this.

My pleasure, I also have an AccelGraphics Eclipse a card released in 1997 which is single slot and actually slightly better in games than this huge Intergraph RealiZm II. Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qZq6ipe6-se6s

Good point but I don't have any PCI-E to PCI adapter with 2 PCI slots. My main PC with a Ryzen 3900X CPU has a motherboard (X470GTA) with 2 classic PCI slots - but this card will never fit inside the case... I have to remove the motherboard.

the bus is rather irrelevant as one is the 2d part the other 3d and this setup is more like a normal 2d accelerator combined with a voodoo card.

@rubberduck4966 Yes, it looks like a classic 2D + separate 3D accelerator setup but it's more than that. The 2D card is electrically connected to the 3D card - and it has only 512K video memory. Once you get the driver installed you can use 32bit high resolution and for this memory from the 3D card must be used.

Indeed, you can mount DIMMs even in single slot cards, check out this AccelGraphics card from 1997: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qZq6ipe6-se6s

Well its not possible anymore at the speeds and...well you can just get a different card if you need more VRAM

@@AlpineTheHusky I totally would buy special GPU memory sticks, to add more bandwidth. I mean it would be a great a product and competition in this area can end with great prices.

There are some PCI-E to PCI adapters that come with a 5.25 internal rack and can fit 2 PCI cards. (medium size) I could use one of those racks for a PCI to SATA + a PCI sound card on a modern motherboard. BTW, you totally can mount a PCI-E card into a PCI slot with those adapters. Tested by me... For some video cards there will be a serious bandwidth limitation but for other devices won't be any difference.

@@O_mores There are some modern cases that have those vertical slots alongside the horizontal ones for mounting GPUs and such, those also seem quite viable for something like this. That or using a case meant for a larger motherboard than that you're using could also work. Good to know about those adapters, will be getting one then to play around with.

Oh... and let's not forget about these big PCI expansion boxes: www.startech.com/en-eu/cards-adapters/pex2pci4

@@O_mores Those seem far too expensive for what they are. I guess it could be meant for businesses that use legacy hardware; I do wonder what that support they advertise exactly entails.

At some point, it looks like he used an Evans & Sutherland OpenGL accelerator and an Intergraph RealiZm... The Evans & Sutherland OpenGL was slightly better while being single slot. It happens that I have that card too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qZq6ipe6-se6s "John Carmack's .plan for Jan 11, 1998----------------------------------------- I AM GOING OUT OF TOWN NEXT WEEK, DON'T SEND ME ANY MAIL! Odds are that I will get back and just flush the 500 messages in my mailbox. No, I'm not taking a vacation. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm getting a hotel room in a state where I don't know anyone, so I can do a bunch of research with no distractions. I bought a new computer specifically for this purpose - A Dolch portable pentium-II system. The significant thing is that it has full length PCI slots, so I was able to put an Evans & Sutherland OpenGL accelerator in it (not enough room for an intergraph Realizm, though), and still drive the internal LCD screen. It works out pretty well, but I'm sure there will be conventional laptops with good 3D acceleration available later this year. This will be an interesting experiment for me. I have always wondered how much of my time that isn't at peak productivity is a necessary rest break, and how much of it is just wasted. "

This is a fact: you get the worst FPS per dollar with professional cards. Back then the ratio was insanely bad... but now you can do serious gaming with a nVidia 5000$ Quadro card. I wouldn't mind one in my PC... :)

Whoa? I think you shouldn't ask more than 1000$ for any video card, this is like a psychological limit for any card that was commercially available.

it's vintage worthiness ... like old miatas and hardtops 🤣

Makes me almost (just almost) sad we trashed so much of the stuff(as well as old SGI, Alpha and SUN systems) as e-waste, but it was impossible to keep it around at the time. It was just pilling up and we were using old workstations as doorstops.

@@ages2001 Well, anything is possible... On this SIS motherboard featured in video when using NT 4.0 the CPU would stay under 100% load unless the USB was disabled in the BIOS...So I had to disable USB...

@@O_mores no, not about this video. Few months ago, we talked about installing windows 2000 on Samsung model laptop. You gave me some installed windows zip files but didn't work any of them.

I actually used one of those packed Windows 2K installations while making this video and it worked for me. It was the standard PC installation. But the target PC was a Pentium 2.4Ghz, 1GB DDR400 RAM, Asus P4S800 motherboard from 2004... Sorry it didn't worked for you.

@@O_mores do you know any further solution? Maybe BIOS or chipset itself freezes win2k ? Because laptop itself runs win XP perfect, has all official XP drivers and even found some win2k drivers. Something really wrong...

These are the pricey custom Voodoo cards mentioned in the video: www.zxc64.com/shamans/ For motherboards... we still can buy industrial ATX motherboards with lots of PCI slots using the latest Intel chipsets. I really need more PCI slots on my main PC so I guess I will pick some industrial motherboard for my future build.

There are gigabit PCI cards with Windows 98 32bit drivers from Intel and Realtek. I haven't found a PCI-E card yet. Some early PCI-E Realtek cards are supposed to be Windows 98 compatible. Once I had a PCI-E gigabit card from Broadcom that worked with Windows NT 3.51 from 1995... But this is not a big surprise since NT was about servers and networks... I don't have that card anymore to see if it works in 98.

Well, PCI-E Voodoo 2 is doable. Right now, you can use a PCI-E to PCI adapter and a Voodoo 2 will work on any modern configuration. In the same time is not practical with Voodoo 1... simply because V1 cards don't like high speed CPUs. After 1Ghz they will output some garbage on the screen and that's it. Even under 1Ghz there are some problems with 133Mhz FSB.

Don't forget to check this other video about Windows Me: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3qvnn5rrdCFkMU

Windows 98 will install with a USB mouse as long the USB chipset is recognized. This of course is not the case with newer motherboards. Anyway you can install it without a mouse (and deal with drivers later) - just use your keyboard Enter/Space to press a button - TAB to jump between buttons and select them. ALT + underlined letter to select an option or a button, e.g. - ALT + N to press the NEXT button.

@@O_mores that i know... and yes the laptop is more modern... but is there anyway for add it on installer?

Well... there is the following switch for Windows 98 setup.exe : "/l This switch enables a Logitech mouse during Setup. " So you should modify the .cab file where lmouse.drv resides and replace it with the lmouse.drv from Windows 3.11 (there is also a link in description to this file) I never tried it, but this switch that forces setup to specifically use a Logitech mouse helps a lot in this scenario...

Mainstream support for Windows Vista ended on April 10, 2012 and extended support ended on April 11, 2017. So between 2012 and 2017 you still might find some motherboards with official Vista support. But as shown in this video Vista is still very compatible with modern hardware.

I payed exactly 1$ at a thrift store.

@@O_mores oh okay then no problem. i just checked the prices online and this retro stuff pricing is outrageous!

I watched that part a couple of time and I still don't get it... :)

Original .ISO + Daemon Tools. To run DT in Windows 95 you need to install the USB supplement and IE 4+.

Doc Brown: I foresee two possibilities. One: it may create a disequilibrium which might be fatal at high RPM. Or two, the encounter could create a time paradox, the result of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space-time continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's worst-case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.

I think there will be one more 3dfx Voodoo before I return the cards.

Actually this is the way it was done - the FPGA chip steals signal from the FBI chip. Analog to digital was my assumption..., but Daniel from sdz-mods.com made it all clear here in the comments section.

Yes, CRT adds a "beautify" filter... I was planning to show some CRT footage from my Samsung 755DFX 17 inch flat screen (the one on the thumbnail) but the built in VGA cable is broken and everything is yellowish now. For a while it worked correctly if I wiggled the cable... Not anymore.

I agree, the HDMI is more like a gimmick, unless if you have only one big gaming monitor with DP/HDMI ports. In this scenario it's better to get HDMI signal from your Voodoo rather than using a VGA to HDMI converter. I have two such converters and they are rather bad: one is outputting some analog garbage, and the other one has better image quality but is getting very hot.

​​@@O_mores it's not a gimmick, the HDMI signal from the card on an LCD screen is just perfect, with no loss whatsoever. Many LCD monitors have crap VGA input, and even the good ones aren't perfect, and they can never be. VGA signal was intended for CRTs, not LCDs. It doesn't carry any resolution information, it's just an analogue waveform, there will always be some "guesswork" and quality lost when displaying it on an LCD panel.

Well, some bad business moves and competition killed 3dfx. First 3dfx wanted a business model like Apple - to produce and sell their own hardware. For this they acquired STB and and they made their own cards by late 1998. By doing this many Taiwanese producers like MSI, Asus, Gainward etc. sold more nVidia cards instead, this diminished 3dfx market share and they were eventually bought by nVidia.