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@TheMeaningCode 2 күн бұрын
8:20, what do you do with stories like Hezekiah, who after his rebirth from illness he screws up his legacy?
@justinsmorningcoffee 2 күн бұрын
@@TheMeaningCode I suspect that if I was asked to write a dramatic version of that story, it would probably structure out in a nice five act tragedy, ending with the tragic destruction of the city, which, on my story map, is the fall off of the first mountain. I’m not saying you would have to do it that way, but it would probably work to do it like that. Remember, these maps are suppose to be tools to help you structure a story, not a comprehensive theory that you have to fit all stories into. It depends on what you are tying to do with it. Also remember, the presence of any one element, a monster, a sword, an antagonist, a love interest, a journey to the underworld et cetera is never, as far as I’ve seen, relegated to one plot type only. For example there are almost always monsters in the quest archetype. In fact, it’s like a little mini overcoming the monster story *within* that larger, more complex story type. So there’s always a kind of fractal quality to it, in the sense that there are mini patterns inside of the bigger ones. Think of them like musical motifs, phrases or sequences which can be used in adjacent musical genres. In my studies, I have noted an intimate connection in fact between the tragedy and the rebirth types, in that they typically share the first four acts (anticipation, dream, frustration, nightmare) and only differ in that final act - the tragic figure doubles down on folly while the rebirth protagonist learns how to repent. That’s probably actually something to look for in the Hezekiah story.
@christianbaxter_yt 7 күн бұрын
🍿 😊
@christianbaxter_yt 7 күн бұрын
Storyteller - Meta
@zacnewford 8 күн бұрын
A lecture I keep returning to. Thank you so much
@justinsmorningcoffee 8 күн бұрын
Thank you Zac
@aktionfragezeichen2342 11 күн бұрын
Books on Charakters 45 Master Characters by Victoria Lynn Schmidt. Awakening the Heroes within by Carol S. Pearson
@justinsmorningcoffee 11 күн бұрын
Thani you, I’ll check those out!
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
Also, Dramatic Story Creation in Plain English by Maxwell Alexander Drake also tackles the importance of Theme (and he describe plot as the physical layer). You can not have the ultimate story map without including "theme."
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
Writers call "atmosphere" the "setting."
@justinsmorningcoffee 11 күн бұрын
Yes, that’s also a term that could work
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
in Lord of the Rings, Dwarves live in the Mountains (not elves), the Elves live in the forest (which is a paradise like area). Note: Elves are the good, and orcs are corrupted elves. Per the internet: In J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, orcs are a race of humanoid monsters that are said to be a corrupted race of elves. According to The Silmarillion, the Dark Lord Morgoth either bred the orcs or turned them savage through cruelty and torture. Morgoth may have done this out of envy and mockery of the elves, and in an attempt to create life himself.
@justinsmorningcoffee 11 күн бұрын
Very helpful!
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
@@justinsmorningcoffee I sent you an e-mail some time ago about speaking by phone. Did you receive it?
@justinsmorningcoffee 11 күн бұрын
@@captainnolan5062 I’m sorry man, I don’t see it in my email but there’s a lot of spam on that one. Can you just DM me on Twitter? It’s @onejwells
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
@@justinsmorningcoffee I got a notification that @onejwells can't be messaged. I sent you one on Facebook.
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
John Truby's book "The Anatomy of Story" is quite good at explaining how all of these things (plot, character, setting, etc.) must interrelate and mesh to tell the story as a master storyteller level (he focuses on screenplays).
@justinsmorningcoffee 11 күн бұрын
Yes that’s a good one. Truby has been a big influence on my thinking
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
Plot is not the "What" of a story; Theme is What the story is about. Plot is part of the delivery mechanism of Theme. Theme is what the story is about. Perhaps you could think of it as: Plot is what happens on the surface of the story, and theme is what the story is about (the 'deeper' "what". (i.e. there are two different kinds of whats). Also take a look at Story Genius by Lisa Cron. Cron's definition of story: “A story is how what happens affects someone who is trying to achieve what turns out to be a difficult goal, and how he or she changes as a result. . . . As counterintuitive as it may sound, a story is not about the plot or even what happens in it."
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
If you look at the work of Wayne Dyer ( Ed.D. in guidance and counseling) and Carolyn Myss, their writing careers/books both follow the pattern of the two mountains. Dwyer's early books are about figuring out how to succeed at life (Your erroneous Zones, Pulling Your own Strings); his middle books are transitioning to the quest for your purpose (The Shift) , his later books are about leaving a legacy and finally rebirth (Experiencing the Miraculous). Myss early books are about architypes and figuring out who you are (Sacred Contracts), her latest book is (Entering the Castle) about "Finding the Inner Path to God and Your Soul’s Purpose." [Per Wikipedia, Her 2007 book, "Entering the Castle" draws upon the writings of Saint Teresa of Ávila, a 16th-century Carmelite nun, who wrote her most important work, The Interior Castle (1577), towards the end of her life. Her next book, Defy Gravity, Healing Beyond the Bounds of Reason (2009) took the ideas further with mystical laws, the seven shadows and also seven graces inherent in all of us]. This is a pattern I noticed in some author's work, where they move from the concerns of the first mountain go on a quest to discover how they can leave a legacy, and then transition to the concerns of the second mountain.
@captainnolan5062 11 күн бұрын
Gandalf and Dumbledore, both come from Merlin (the magician bearded elder mentor) who in turn, likely came from the Greek mythological character Mentor. In the Odyssey, Mentor (Greek: Μέντωρ, Méntōr; gen.: Μέντορος) was the son of Alcimus. In his old age Mentor was a friend of Odysseus. When Odysseus left for the Trojan War, he placed Mentor in charge of his son Telemachus, and of Odysseus' palace.
@captainnolan5062 12 күн бұрын
The jump from Carl Jung to the seven basic plots At 3:12 was not explained well. Jung spoke of architypes and not 7 basic plots. So, I can see how the Characters were influenced by him, but the leap you made from Jung to the 7 basic plots was not logical nor did you give evidence for it ( I have watched your other videos on the 7 basic plots). Campbell spoke of the monomyth and could be linked to the voyage and return, but not the other 6 plots. Please explain how you make that leap in your argument from Jung to the 7 basic plots.
@justinsmorningcoffee 12 күн бұрын
Christopher Booker used a Jungian lens for story analysis in The Seven Basic Plots. Yes I could have made that more clear, thank you for the feedback.
@JessPurviance 12 күн бұрын
This is great. I'm excited to see this expansion into these different areas. I heard someone say (in an exaggerated way) that the main character in Children of Men was the background. I've thought about that a lot.
@justinsmorningcoffee 12 күн бұрын
Yes that’s probably true of Children of Men
@RonCopperman 12 күн бұрын
I watch your videos because they help me see the bible and spiritual life with a different "lense". Thanks for the insights. (Jonathan Pageau-ing )
@justinsmorningcoffee 12 күн бұрын
Thank you Ron
@justinsmorningcoffee 12 күн бұрын
*laden
@MrGeoxen 12 күн бұрын
Now that you mention it, Sopranos plays with these elements of water in the underworld a lot as well. Between the pool in Tony's house, the visits to the ocean on his boat, there is a lot at play.
@justinsmorningcoffee 12 күн бұрын
That’s true!
@zacnewford 19 күн бұрын
Thank you so much
@TheThrivingTherapsid 19 күн бұрын
Perhaps this is just me, but I thought "Back to the Future" was primarily a comedy.
@justinsmorningcoffee 5 күн бұрын
Yes, if the movie is funny, it can certainly be called a comedy. If you want the definition of the comedy as plot type, then it will have certain characteristics. I hope to do a video on comedy soon.
@ciaranmcguckinhasfun4334 23 күн бұрын
This is perfect. very sacred experience having a drink in a place like this. Beautiful ambience.
@justinsmorningcoffee 22 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼
@SacraTessan Ай бұрын
I Dont know why bt I like your way of describing this ..your presentations .(.(it makes more sense right now than when I was looking at Richard R and J Pageau s yt
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you SacraTessan, I appreciate your taking the time to watch
@SacraTessan Ай бұрын
thanks .for claryfying this chategories .🦉💙
@nickyoude2694 Ай бұрын
Oliver! is another example of this trope. Oliver himself is a workhouse orphan hence oppressed by the Poor Laws. He wishes for a better life and a family who would love him, and the moment he asked for more food, he is forced out of the workhouse by Mr Bumble who then sells Oliver to an undertaker. Oliver escapes and ends up in London when he is enticed by Artful Dodger to reside in Fagin's hideout. Oliver thinks he's found what he's wished for but Fagin has ulterior motives. After a string of circumstances Oliver meets his "Fairy Godmother" by chance when Mr Brownlow is pickpocketd and Oliver gets fingered for the crime. After Oliver is proven innocent, Mr Brownlow wants to make amends and takes Oliver into his home. Fagin meanwhile, worrying that Oliver will spill the beans about his operation, sends Bill Sikes and Nancy to kidnap him back into Fagin's gang. Nancy feels remorse and attempts to reunite Brownlow and Oliver. Nancy is murdered by Sikes which attracts the attention of the police Sikes' dog Bullseye essentially betrays Sikes and goes to Brownlow. At this point Bullseye leads an angry mob to Fagin's hideout and Sikes uses Oliver as a hostage. While fleeing the mob, Sikes dies and Oliver is rescued and returned to Brownlow.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
That’s a great summary of Oliver Twist. Yes that’s a very good example!
@donnaearnheart Ай бұрын
What a wonderful grandparent-honoring documentary you put together, Henry. My heartfelt condolences to you and Emily and your families. Praise God that you have the comfort of the sure and certain hope of the resurrection.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you Donna (I am Justin, Henry’s Uncle 😂😂)
@karnak5164 Ай бұрын
Justin, your lectures on the Seven Plots has been a gem, and has made me think of stories in ways that i haven't before. Thank you so much for providing these, your channel is a diamond in the rough.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you Karnak5164, I will be making more this summer
@cassandracastillo4938 Ай бұрын
I love this series. I'm really looking forward to comedy. I got impatient waiting and read Booker's book. Now that I have, I'm very impressed with your breakdown into the Faustian versus Oedipal versions of tragedy. You expanded Booker's presentation into something more applicable for wider story analysis. Please do comedy soon.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you Cassandra. Yes I’m looking to expand on Booker a little bit here and there. That’s partly why it takes me so long to put these lectures out. I need time to ruminate on them and go through a bunch of story examples until I feel like I have a handle on it. I WILL get to comedy, probably sometime this summer!
@lisanixon2571 Ай бұрын
What a wonderful tribute to Jess and Char. I loved seeing all the pictures and hearing Jess and Char talk about their life. A lovely gift for your family.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, Lisa
@janellglouser3105 Ай бұрын
Wow! Fabulous! We really enjoyed watching this Justin. Brought back so many great memories. You did a fabulous job of telling the story of both their lives. Thank you for putting in the effort for all of us to enjoy.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you Janell. Well we were all talking this weekend about just how much you and Mel did for the family over the years. Not only was most of that photography done by Mel, but of course all the activities and reunions and vacations were organized by you! And then all that you gave to Char and my mom there at the end- moving to town to be with them. Boy, what an incredible gift that was. Thank thy so much for all of that!
@andrewternet8370 Ай бұрын
Hamsertdam! Amsaterdam! Ammasterdam! Wow 😃
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Hahah!
@strangetheology Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful part of your family’s story.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thanks Pete. They are definitely an inspiration to me - lives well lived
@nataliedokter8159 Ай бұрын
Thanks for your hard work and well presented ideas. That was helpful!
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Thank you Natalie
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
I would love to see the Batman Trilogy (overcoming the monster) video. I am going to look at them closer myself.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Hopefully I’ll have the time to get to that someday
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Notice that the net at the 'bottom' is also a circle. Also notice that the two mountains in this story are similar to the mountain of success and the mountain of legacy in the overall theory of the 7 basic plots!
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Yes that’s the fractal nature of it, I think
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Per the Internet: Belle is the main character in Disney's Beauty and the Beast films from 1991 and 2017. She is a young, intelligent, and confident woman who loves books and has an active imagination. She lives in a small French village and is aware that the villagers consider her odd, but she is not vain or concerned with her looks. Belle has many heroic characteristics, including helpful, caring, intelligent, and selflessness. She goes on a hero's journey to save the Beast from remaining a beast forever.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Snow White, like Cinderella, has a Mother who is jealous of the Maiden (note: it is a magic mirror that reveals the problem, just as a regular mirror reveals that a woman is aging).
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Excellent point!
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
The Jane Austen stories (like Pride and Prejudice) are 'Maiden becoming Mother' stories (the search for an appropriate mate).
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Maybe these stories where the world must change, rather than the female protagonist being the one who needs to change, is a reflection of the current cultural zeitgeist; with some women rebelling against the so called "patriarchy" and who refuse to accept that there is a difference between men and women and that therefore there are different roles for them to play in society. Christianity teaches that men and women are both created in the image of God and are equal in value, but that they are different in the roles that they have been assigned by God.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Dorothy is in the state of boredom at the beginning of the Wizard of Oz (somewhere over the rainbow skies are blue; here in Kansas they are grey, and everything is in black and white. There is no color in her life) because, like Alice in Wonderland, it is a Voyage and Return Story. Dorothy lacks adventure and her flaw is that she is not appreciative or grateful for the things she has (home sweet home). She has to go on her journey in order to realize and appreciate what a wonderful home (and loved ones) she has.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
In the Wizard of Oz, the Tin Man, Cowardly Lion and Scarecrow only think they are lacking something, but as the Wizard points out, they did not lack the things they believed they were lacking.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Think of the stories that girls gravitate towards to in our society: Cinderella, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Snow White, Secret Garden, Anne of Green Gables, Little Women, Pride and Prejudice, Charlotte's Web, Wuthering Heights, Jane Eyre.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
You have put the enigma clearly on display in this trailer! I look forward to the movie.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Do you think this (transcendence) is what Kubrick was going for (at least to some extent) with Barry Lyndon (one of my favorite movies)? He delays edits, uses long shots without moving the camera, etc.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
"The center cannot hold" is a line from the poem "The Second Coming" by W.B. Yeats, written in 1919. This line is often interpreted as a metaphor for a society or system that is in a state of chaos or disintegration, where things are falling apart and there is a lack of stability or order. The "center" in this context represents a sense of unity, cohesion, or control, and when it cannot hold, it signifies a breakdown of the established norms, values, or structures that hold a society together. This phrase is often used to describe situations where there is widespread unrest, uncertainty, or upheaval." - Assistant
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Let's say: to a "new" filmmaker, rather than to a "young" filmmaker. Thanks for posting these videos on documentaries. I have delayed my filmmaking dream for about 50 years, so it is now time to seriously think about doing a documentary.
@justinsmorningcoffee Ай бұрын
Yeah man you have nothing to lose!
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Thanks for posting these videos about documentaries!
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Interesting that in the movie, it appears that Gregory Peck is wearing prosthetic nose, which has the effect of making him look a lot more like Father Abraham (Abraham Lincoln) than he otherwise would. He also has Lincoln's stovepipe hat and mustache-less beard.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
From the Internet: Character Role Analysis Ishmael At the beginning of Moby-Dick, we feel pretty confident in saying that Ishmael is our protagonist: he’s clearly telling the story and it’s him whom we follow through New Bedford and Nantucket as he searches for a whaling ship to join. In different parts of the novel, he’ll reassert himself as the lens through which we see the novel unfold. But as events progress, it becomes more and more obvious that Ishmael has turned into a bystander, and the real protagonist is someone else… Captain Ahab Captain Ahab seems like a reluctant protagonist at first, since he spends the beginning of the voyage holed up in his cabin alone. (Later we find out that he was recovering from a groin injury caused by his whalebone leg.) But, when he finally emerges, he steals the show. Ishmael fades into the background, a mere seaman, as we get just as obsessed with Ahab’s revenge quest as any of the sailors on board the Pequod. Moby Dick It’s only fair to Moby Dick to take a moment to think about whether or not he could actually be the protagonist of the novel that uses his name for its title; unfortunately, it’s pretty tough to fit him into the role. Although there’s a lot of talking about Moby Dick and speculating about Moby Dick and worrying about Moby Dick and looking for Moby Dick that goes on, the White Whale is only in three of the 135 chapters here. So he’s probably not the protagonist. He’ll have to be satisfied with being the focus or center of the novel.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Why aren't we considering this an Overcoming the Monster book?
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
Part of Melville's letter: Your letter was handed me last night on the road going to Mr. Morewood's, and I read it there. Had I been at home, I would have sat down at once and answered it. In me divine maganimities are spontaneous and instantaneous -- catch them while you can. The world goes round, and the other side comes up. So now I can't write what I felt. But I felt pantheistic then -- your heart beat in my ribs and mine in yours, and both in God's. A sense of unspeakable security is in me this moment, on account of your having understood the book. I have written a wicked book, and feel spotless as the lamb. Ineffable socialities are in me. I would sit down and dine with you and all the gods in old Rome's Pantheon. It is a strange feeling -- no hopefulness is in it, no despair. Content -- that is it; and irresponsibility; but without licentious inclination. I speak now of my profoundest sense of being, not of an incidental feeling.
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
The scientific answer to your question, why does sleep renew us? is: "Sleep is needed to regenerate parts of the brain so that it can continue to function normally. Lack of sleep or not enough sleep can cause some neurons in one's brain to malfunction. If the neurons cannot function properly it affects the person's behavior and has an impact on their performance."
@captainnolan5062 Ай бұрын
The shot of Hanks at 58:31 sure looks a lot like Christ suffering on the cross. The package above his head looks like the placard nailed above Christ's head (which read 'King of the Jews').