Is Tragedy about being trapped by Fate, or making a Faustian deal with the Devil?

We have finally made it all the way to the Tragic plot type!
I see the tragic plot as consisting of two types: the Faustian and the Oedipal.
How do these two types (we might say the Greek and the Christian style tragedies relate?
If you would like to catch up, the previous lectures in this series are below:
Introduction to the Seven Basic Plots: • On Writing - The Seven...
Rags to Riches: • The Seven Basic Plots:...
Overcoming the Monster Part I: • On Writing- The Seven ...
Overcoming the Monster Part II: • On Writing -The Seven ...
Voyage and Return Part I: • On Writing - The Seven...
Voyage and Return Part II: • On Writing - The Seven...
Voyage and Return Part III: • On Writing - The Seven...
Voyage and Return Part IV: • On Writing - The Seven...
Quest: • Is The Call the same t...
I was inspired by @youthnation1 and @PaulVanderKlay @thomasflight @JonathanPageau @damienwalter in making these videos
Here is the Oedipus Summary used in the video • Oedipus Rex by Sophocl...
Here is the Robert McKee discussion of Chinatown used in the video:
• Robert McKee introduce...

[@cl4364]

Great video!!

[@karnak5164]

Justin, your lectures on the Seven Plots has been a gem, and has made me think of stories in ways that i haven't before. Thank you so much for providing these, your channel is a diamond in the rough.

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

Thank you Karnak5164, I will be making more this summer

[@cassandracastillo4938]

I love this series. I'm really looking forward to comedy. I got impatient waiting and read Booker's book. Now that I have, I'm very impressed with your breakdown into the Faustian versus Oedipal versions of tragedy. You expanded Booker's presentation into something more applicable for wider story analysis. Please do comedy soon.

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

Thank you Cassandra. Yes I’m looking to expand on Booker a little bit here and there. That’s partly why it takes me so long to put these lectures out. I need time to ruminate on them and go through a bunch of story examples until I feel like I have a handle on it. I WILL get to comedy, probably sometime this summer!

[@teestrypzSOG]

more than worth the wait, bravo Justin 🙌. The breaking bad breakdown was excellent, on my second of many more listens.

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

Cool man thanks for checking it out. I need to get caught up on your recent adventures with PVK!

[@reedkellner6447]

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[@daleplay3167]

Thank you for such a wonderful masterclass. This helps me to enjoy stories more, even if I am not screenwriter. I have bought the 7 basic plots book after I discovered your channel. I have a question. Is this mostly for screenwriters or could be useful for novel writers too?

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

Oh it mostly definitely applies to novels as well, in fact Booker uses novels as his primary examples

[@daleplay3167]

@@justinsmorningcoffee thanks, I plan to dive deep into the book during the winter holidays.

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

@@daleplay3167 cool man let me know how it goes!

[@raghavtantry6272]

Not able to find Quest Part 2 .....

[@justinsmorningcoffee]

I’m sorry, I haven’t made that one yet, but I will get to it as soon as I can! 😄