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@phoney4258
@phoney4258 Күн бұрын
24:20 Now that I just managed to clutch out a win in my own Anarchy route, seems like the issues I was having with it were ones others have mentioned before alongside getting random Riot Gun crits into a smirked Antichthon and the aforementioned loss of items, at the very least I can praise how entertaining the dialogue exchanges between Vishnu-Flynn and Dagda are for this fight. It also explained why Dagda doesn’t simply control Nanashi right before reaching this point unlike controlling Nanashi into releasing the Divine Powers and intervening against Maitreya in Ginza. That might be the only positive I have for Anarchy version of this fight if you don’t count how horrifying the dialogue and implication you get for reviving Asahi as a goddess after this fight if I’m interpreted the context of what happened correctly, props to Erica Lindbeck and Keith Silverstein for their line deliveries for that scene.
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 2 күн бұрын
4:39 I definitely missed some things in the lead up to this fight on my own playthrough of the anarchy route, for context I’m currently at the Vishnu Flynn fight although I am having issues with that boss fight on the anarchy route although judging from comments seen on other videos in this challenge run as well as in the pinned comment section for this fight those issues might be addressed in the description of your version of that fight in this route, so I’ll ask a question about this fight. How are you able to use items in this fight as Navarre broke all my items in the cutscene that starts this fight? That’s one of the reasons I’m having issues with the Vishnu Flynn fight because of MP resources being restricted from this set back. At the very least, it’ll be interesting to try and justify why Nanashi could go down the anarchy route even if I currently can’t think of any concrete reasonings to side with Dagda given what happens during the plot of this game.
@Bucketgetter
@Bucketgetter 2 күн бұрын
Sounds like you’re out of luck…Navarre pulls his shenanigans when your alignment leans too much towards “good”, so in this playthrough I had to watch my choices so I wouldn’t be punished for selecting either alignment. Losing all of your MP items is pretty brutal, so you’ll probably have to farm Chakra Pots from specific enemies either by defeating them or talking to them. I don’t remember which ones can gift Chakra Pots but there’s probably information online. Losing all your items is pretty brutal in this game, possibly even more so than Dagda deleting all of your demons since it’s easier to recruit and fuse a passable team than build up an MP item supply.
@bubbletea_
@bubbletea_ 17 күн бұрын
6:55 walter actually ending it thus
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 28 күн бұрын
do pleromas apply to attack items? cause i'm surprised at not much use of light gems on girimekhala or are the four elemental gems actually just exact copies of -dyne skills while light/dark gems are hamaon/mudoon?
@rusdyfrans3679
@rusdyfrans3679 Ай бұрын
impressive.. hands down. Can you do another challange like no inherit skills (only naturally learnable skills) for demons ? lv99 its fine. DLC demons also fine. I would love to know if that is possible without cheesing.
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 Ай бұрын
43:10 I’m kind of disappointed that I missed this scene when I got to this point in the YHVH fight attempt that I managed to win. It was only on a previous attempt did I have the dialogue trigger but I was too annoyed that YHVH still had another phase and Nanashi’s team had been wiped out already that I didn’t pay attention to what was being said by the samurai and reset immediately after this phase started. A shame it was one of the two instances I got YHVH to the Black Hole phase instead of dying to random Rampage crits and the subsequent death spiral like in my previous attempts in this fight.
@hectormedina4782
@hectormedina4782 Ай бұрын
every few turns he rolls gae force?
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey Ай бұрын
the fact that camael now has a trait that increases damage when an ally of the fury race strikes a weakness or hits a crit feels like some atlus developer watched this video and saw how long zaou-gongen and camael lasted
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 Ай бұрын
Regarding the information in the description on stacking Tetrakarn and Makarakarn, are there any other SMT games where you could do that since I was put off using them after doing the Mara fight where he has access to Tetrabreak so I assumed it was a skill every other boss has access to at this point in Apocalypse. Then again, at the time of writing this, I just finished up the Dagda boss fight and revived Asahi so I could probably test that for the eventual Krishna rematch as well as the route siding with Dagda because I have a save point right before deciding between Dagda and your allies and another save right after the Dagda fight.
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 2 ай бұрын
kinda crazy how like 80% of this whole video has zaou-gongen and camael in the party also bringing in mithras was a ballsy move
@ArcherFromFateStayNight
@ArcherFromFateStayNight 2 ай бұрын
According to a Robin and Zephyr video, scripted fights have no level scaling. Take that as you will
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 2 ай бұрын
hi if anyone is reading this comment, you probably got really bored and decided to watch the less interesting battles. you and me both
@kaiserkreuz2110
@kaiserkreuz2110 2 ай бұрын
Yeah no, I'm not redoing this without fusion accidents. Not just for Hydra, but Tiamat at level 59 without a Gogmagog is nigh impossible (doable if you bust lots of Balms into Nahobino though, which would defeat the purpose of a lowest-level playthrough.) Yeah, the fact you only have 5 skill slots, no way to change resistances and no QoL fight improvements sucks, but I like that it makes Young Man the pivot of the fights, even when he deals piss damage by the end. I'd say doing this was worth it (and I didn't rely much on FA actually, probably 10 demons tops), but I'm never doing it again. Fuck CoC especially (Hydra at level 5 with just Onmoraki, Preta and Pixie? LOL nope.) Hats off to you to pull that off though. The rest of the game is not worth it. Especially from all the Empyrean bosses onwards.
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 2 ай бұрын
11:28 Well that was something I didn’t expect to see. More so the censor blip than anything but that does make it funnier to listen to.
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 2 ай бұрын
4:05 For context, does anything change during this quest if Nozomi is in the party dialogue wise? Since I’m playing this for the first time, I did this quest first instead of heading to the Fairy Forest, which judging by the level differences meant I did it out of order, and had Hallelujah in the party giving small inputs when Asahi learns about what happened to Nanashi and claiming Excalibur.
@Bucketgetter
@Bucketgetter 2 ай бұрын
It's been a long time but I vaguely remember wondering it myself, I think that at most it changes a few lines of dialogue in either area but I can't say for certain.
@phoney4258
@phoney4258 2 ай бұрын
Guess I got the opposite experience then what most people experienced on their Apocalypse where I got thrashed by Ose and had less issue with Sukuna Hikona. Although that might have been due to the party being more electric based even that was on accident to farm Ziongas. Nice to knock that aliments work on bosses.
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 2 ай бұрын
i do wonder if nozuchi will see any use in this fight in vengeance, probably not, since he doesnt have any really useful skills for this fight aside from life spring. maybe shiki ouji might be useful though, at least as a placeholder for whenever a demon dies since he can actually survive some hits now and potentially help with the ailments
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 2 ай бұрын
does anyone know what exactly changed between smt4 and apoc to make base skill power more relevant? because i feel like you can't just bring single tier zan to endgame in apoc. closest thing was you keeping zanma for odin but that was for saving mp
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 2 ай бұрын
in godborn smt5 vengeance i saw the heavenly kings use megidolaon and impaler's
@2tehnik
@2tehnik 2 ай бұрын
Will the actual run be with no fusion whatsoever? As you usually do.
@Bucketgetter
@Bucketgetter 2 ай бұрын
Seems like that could be the safest guess based on my history but I’ve also toyed with the idea of fusion without any skill inheritance depending on the game, although I’ve never done it
@tigersympathiser2265
@tigersympathiser2265 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the SMT V writers took a look at this fight and chose to base the narrative around completely invalidating this version of Lucifer
@Yinlock470
@Yinlock470 2 ай бұрын
weirdly the other 3 are from the end(or close) of their respective adventures but the Hero is like, level 25ish or so normally? dude was grinding his ass off apparently
@VaatiOfDarkness
@VaatiOfDarkness 2 ай бұрын
There's something so tragic about the way Jonathan as Merkabah speaks to you at the start. He was a kind, caring soul, reduced to a genocidal abomination of an angel with no warmth of heart...
@banalsandwitch4002
@banalsandwitch4002 2 ай бұрын
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@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 2 ай бұрын
his skeletor ahh laugh is deserved tbh
@albertl.matlock6118
@albertl.matlock6118 2 ай бұрын
13:20 KINO
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
"hey trumpeter what do you think of nike, mercedes benz, and playstation? trumpeter: they have 1:15
@chaosakita
@chaosakita 3 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see your playthrough of SMTVV. I bet that you already have a strategy in mind but I would love it if you did a playthrough without Knowledge of Tools.
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
homestly i didn't expect to win in 2 attempts at level 80. i had a team of ragnarok airavata, floral gust tiamat, and support asherah, and it did require getting lucky but it wasn't that big a deal thanks to spirit focus, archangel's law, and pumping into flynn's agility for like 22 whole levels
@markhovscrch4050
@markhovscrch4050 3 ай бұрын
I never see this quest before
@duyanhbui5386
@duyanhbui5386 3 ай бұрын
magic user lol lmao just charge madness claw and any boss instance melt with dex
@spongbobsquarepants3922
@spongbobsquarepants3922 2 ай бұрын
Magic is better
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
in my failed attempt he used gaea rage for no reason, i had one demon that didn't repel gun or phys on the field and my flynn repelled gun but didn't have phys resistance. i think maybe there's a small chance he'll just use it randomly anyways on my winning attempt i just spammed charge myriad arrows after the dialogue and he didn't even get the CHANCE to use gaea rage it was crazy, who needs riot gun am i right?
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
if only the high elec pleroma accessory were available on the law path....... i just decided to use stigmata strike in my level 57 strat. i didn't want to use any high level skills but i felt like it would be very difficult to win without it. also on my winning attempt he did use silent prayer near the end but fortunately i was still able to beat him
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
in order to beat michael at level 56, i decided to give up on no fusion/skill inheritance and fuse asura, grendel, and wild hunt with life surge/gain, bufudyne, pleromas, concentrate, and support skills. i had to buy this crazy uriel, masakado's shadow, and odin from compendium in order to beat gabriel in 1 turn with life surge accessory and repel fire armor on flynn, and i swapped out those demons as soon as the michael fight began
@KishinAubrey
@KishinAubrey 3 ай бұрын
raphael is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. when he killed my demons and sucked up my mp i won by just spamming beads and fire bullets and he kept hitting into nibelungen repel phys, usually with his third turn