Damn that's tiled concrete floor - something hard to fall on. Near reality place of fighting. 👍
@christate65 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow he went for a pretty nasty arm/wrist crank at one point
@christate65 Жыл бұрын
I’m so late to the party on this. These are great
@christate65 Жыл бұрын
Dude got schooled cuz he needed humbling with the way he was acting. He needs to realize he’s nowhere near Chens level
@christate65 Жыл бұрын
Much respect to both parties here. Excellent show. Master Chen is incredible and this gentleman put up a great effort.
@blockmasterscott Жыл бұрын
Wow, nice use of cloudy hands! 👍
@chrisradnedge74 Жыл бұрын
great gong fu level.
@sebkakkroh2691 Жыл бұрын
i vomit when i see it
@pignokor55362 жыл бұрын
folks in China they really take sparring seriously.. hard floor?? it was always like that in traditional kungfu
@davidm96182 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of CRAP!
@CharlesBetancourt-iq9oe Жыл бұрын
He's bested experienced wrestlers It's on video.
@윤정우-u7p2 жыл бұрын
shameless level. and he have no theaching right. consider safety. stupid taichi.
@littlejimmy74022 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Daoist philosophy plays a part as well.
@littlejimmy74022 жыл бұрын
Chen is the original style, if you can find a Chen Village Teacher you will see what was originally intended for the actual Gung Fu portion. It's not magic. Most of them can eat pistol squats for breakfast. So strong and relaxed at the same time. The rest is physics and daily training.
@kennykanonik12772 жыл бұрын
Wy attack the master u never learn
@charlesbetancourt73374 жыл бұрын
0:40 very effective street defense takedown
@thhizon4 жыл бұрын
Will this work on Khabib???
@charlesbetancourt73374 жыл бұрын
How many muggers or average bullies are as good as khabib? It's a martial arts school for self defense not prize fighting.
@Knorzo3 жыл бұрын
By your Logic MMA sucks because 29 MMA pro fighters lost to Khabib xD
@ISkandarash3 жыл бұрын
It works on khabib fan boys'
@charlesbetancourt73372 жыл бұрын
@@ISkandarash Truthfully, have you experienced or seen something that assures you it works on a high level fighter like khabib? There is an MMA fighter who tells a story of his experience against an 80 year old Tai chi practitioners.
@charlesbetancourt73375 жыл бұрын
No mma meatheads crying this is staged or fake Only when he bested the Greco Roman wrestler did they say that.
@charlesbetancourt73375 жыл бұрын
No mms meatheads crying this is staged. Only when he bested the Greco Roman wrestler did they say that.
@metalxhorse5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Qinna at the beginning
@robertobravor76805 жыл бұрын
Se aprecia que el sparring no usa toda su fuerza y capacidades.
@charlesbetancourt73375 жыл бұрын
There are those who say Chen's sparring matches are staged. You mean to say all the matches in this video here are staged?
@charlesbetancourt73376 жыл бұрын
Send some of these video's to Joe Rogan See what he has to say..
@charlesbetancourt73376 жыл бұрын
Nobody says this bout is fake. Chen^s opponent has grappling experience and is tough bit he still neutralized him. A lot of egos in New York city need to get shut down. Chen we need you here
@risema6 жыл бұрын
muy realista pero no me gusta
@YamabushiSpirit6 жыл бұрын
I want to contact ZiQiang for a seminar in my area. How would I go about doing this?
@lucindagaskill71376 жыл бұрын
Nothing could be more clear, than in this video. The only thing better, would be to see these techs in slo-mo. Thank you for this video !
@lucindagaskill71376 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for taking a beatin' for us, guy in the shorts.
@n0simpathy3046 жыл бұрын
this is the tai chi truth
@TheRetroman686 жыл бұрын
He looks a very good push hands player
@Orimthekeyacolite6 жыл бұрын
Push hands seminar on a hard floor? Yeah, not necesserily the best idea in the world...
@donnchadhmcginley31536 жыл бұрын
Orion everyday life doesn't have a soft floor
@janeries92347 жыл бұрын
chen zi qiang is an unassuming guy. can often notice his casual style with his neck line very soft almost as if wobbly a little. as if he could not be bothered. my understanding is that he is actually trying to use as little energy as possible against the unrefined and rough round the edges opponents. the truth is, from what i experienced myself he normally holds back a lot when sparring with most western students in order not to embarrass or discourage anyone. that's why we see a lot of these long videos on youtube. otherwise if you look at any serious chinese competitions (easier to look up the chinese characters) you will see that none of his experienced opponents last very long standing upright
@ellenlee18 жыл бұрын
HE LOOKS GENTLE WITH THE OLDER GUYS.
@bertt10558 жыл бұрын
redhead practitioner is good... but at 2:47, kinda excessive strike to Chen Ziqiang's jaw/neck...
@bertt10558 жыл бұрын
@steve cousins, what u know from other taiji styles isn't close to realistic fighting.
@ACEMFG19 жыл бұрын
I want to know when he's coming back so I can attend his seminar?
@zhenliu89839 жыл бұрын
We call the wrestling hand - jiao shou, which is closer to real fight than pushing hand. I was hurt before in this training but I like this. Thank you for sharing.
@HillardEarl9 жыл бұрын
I would hope, people understand the amount of time put in, to achieve this level. If you look closely, you will see no admixture to the masters movements. Notice I specified, the master. We need to understand, his path started very young, no games, no tricks. One other thing, you will not see him doing push hands without, his peng energy. Unless it's against another master.
@chenvillagetaijiquandenver30749 жыл бұрын
HillardEarl According to himself, Chen ZiQiang started at 3 years old, then seriously at 4. Old Frame 1 and standing post only until early 20s, then learned the rest of the routines and weapons from his dad Chen XiaoXing. People who have pushed with all the famous current generation masters have told me Chen ZiQiang is by far the most rooted and solid one, especially with his physical stature. Mike Rosario-Graycar was no joke either. I have not met one American who can match his combat skills and root. Mike could literally root through his index finger, and you wouldn't be able to bend it with both hands.
@HillardEarl9 жыл бұрын
What I like most about this is, Chen village is a Tai Chi village. In this video I can see application without admixture. With this video you see push hands with and without admixture. Image growing up in a village that Tai Chi is not misunderstood.
@bidwell701710 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading these!
@JustSomeGuy6942010 жыл бұрын
There's nothing saying Tai Chi MUST be relaxed and the muscles must always be loose. There's nothing saying that loose power is a rule in Tai Chi. There are types of power where more muscular force is used. This is coming straight out of a Tai Chi book from a very popular, respected master. I'm not making shit up here haha. If a muscle dominated push will throw the opponent off balance, then use it. Nothing wrong with being strong. ;)
@lhkeng10 жыл бұрын
To recordmymind, the tall student is pretty good, although he is much bigger in statue and often clings on to Master Chen ZiQiang when he falls. He likse to use his size and weight to dominate. Looks like he was trying to do some choking at some point. It really is not as easy as Chen ZiQiang makes it look -- being able to neutralize and overcome just about every technique that everyone and anyone throws at you, hoping for a chance for a moment of fame on KZbin. Look closely and you will see these situations throughout where Chen turned around every time. I see a true master. To gptaichi, Thanks for sharing. Good stuff.
@supernev100011 жыл бұрын
Easy dudes, just taiji practise. NOT real case or match.
@WhatIsItReallyAbout11 жыл бұрын
That was special. Thanks for posting.
@TwystedDriver11 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, this breaks all the rules of the 36 sickness of push hands T_T
@SerPitr11 жыл бұрын
Then perhaps the ones you see as "good at tai chi" are not so "good" at it after all. Taijiquan is basically wrestling with Taoist principles. Push hand patterns are preparations for the real application. Furthermore, whatever energies you are referring to, (silk reeling maybe?) they should not be visible in the real application, in order for the opponent not to spot or track your intentions. For this reason taijiquan is also called the "needle hidden inside a cotton ball".
@haggiebear11 жыл бұрын
Damn his elbows ate the floor pretty hard.... Lol
@StuartMirsky11 жыл бұрын
Pushing hands is a practice and, as such, must be applied. This sort of thing is most commonly seen among Chen style practitioners. They are generally more oriented to the martial side of tai chi as a martial art. Yang stylists (of which I am one) more typically practice in terms of the formal patterns and seek to apply by evading and tossing the partner from more or less fixed positions. I rather like the Chen openness to more realistic scenarios myself.
@StuartMirsky11 жыл бұрын
Chen style pushing hands. Have seen it before. It's much more combat oriented than the Yang and Wu approaches -- more free flowing and so more natural. But it can easily devolve into mere wrestling with strength replacing sensitivity at key moments. On the other hand, done right it enables the practitioner to expand tai chi sensitivity into situations that more closely approximate reality. Yang approach probably better for perfecting the principle but Chen approach for using it.
@P69Mac11 жыл бұрын
When you see someone who is good at Taiji you don't see this kind of contact? - What you usually don't see is someone being genuinely tested - resisted. If you only practice set patterns then you are never really tested. When there is genuine resistance then things aren't so pretty. I take my hat of to Master Chen Ziqiang - many so called Masters don't allow such a situation to occur. At least these guys are keeping the art in some kind of a martial context. All the best
@gtbones5 жыл бұрын
In truth, when there is "genuine resistance" the principles of Tai Chi are easier to apply not more difficult as there is more to work with and it is much easier to find an opponent's centre. what I see in this video is more akin to Judo. No judgement as Judo is a fine martial art/sport but I don't see in this video any internal principles being used.
@ilyaolshanetskiy74212 жыл бұрын
There is nothing 'martial' in this kind of exchange. It resembles amateur wrestling match...a friendly rules based exchange...nothing more.