@@RCHRD444 haha I was waiting for someone to notice it!! I used to do it all the time as a kid, but I was no genius, I learnt a method …it’s more like a meditation for me.

@@lancimusprime9488 so glad it’s helped you!

@@AndyHartStudio it’s an interesting query. Ultimately, some people like chocolate and some don’t. There isn’t usually a reason, it’s just who they are. When it comes to drawing it’s much the same. I naturally incline towards a representational approach and enjoy the challenge. It’s a bit like doing a sudoku or something, it’s a big puzzle!

You're so welcome!

Glad it was helpful!

Welcome!

Thanks for this!

Agreed, I messed up on this!

Yeah, sorry about that!

Thanks Jelena!

I'm not really 100% on this so don't want to give out the wrong advice. As far as I know, provided you make it clear it's a copy, you can create and sell artist studies.

Read out of context it sounds like people are paying for something quite different...'come-on video' 😂

Thanks Mandy!

Very true for creative work, but for people who draw/paint in a classical and representational manner, theory is useful.

Completely agree with you, I do this quite a lot as well. You can also photograph your paints or pencils and turn it to greyscale. It's not perfect, but it does help. Notans, or thumbnails, can help too :)

I just wish I had appreciated it way back in school!

Hi Scasey, I don't quite understand what you mean I'm afraid. Sadly, I wrote a lot of this while fueled on caffeine in one of those 'I'm on fire, I'm could do everything all at once' type of moments. Turns out I was very wrong, but that makes it kinda funny now!

Hi Tina, Thanks very much. You know, I would go and look at the old masters work and also look into the Florence Academy style of learning. It will have a lot more information for you. They will talk about 'massing' values and simplifying form into big areas of dark and midtone, with only a few highlights. Many teachers offer free sessions on KZbin, have a Google about, I'm sure you'll find something useful :)

@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 Thank you Emily 🥰

@@tinapetviashvili Enjoy exploring!

I need to work on this, back to the drawing board I go.

They're great!

I love you Mark🥰

Sigh... because you probably inherently understand it from your decades of experience, even if you can't explain why you do certain things. The problem with "painting what you see" is you end up NOT painting what you see. Like if you have a still life setup, if you actually look at one item in the setup, everything else around it isn't in focus in your vision, you see it peripherally as your eyes are focused on that one thing. But when you paint the still life, you work from one item to the next to the table to the background, and all will have the same level of focus and clarity because your eyes are adjusting for each object. But in reality when you see the setup, you don't see everything in focus or emphasized at the same time. Same with why working from photos can be challenging, because the camera can flatten depth, change colours, and make way more in focus than your eyes do. Don't come and "old man painter" someone who's trying to help others, your advice to basically wing it is less than helpful for people who are wanting to learn and get better (or as Emily said, finally have something "click" that makes a world of difference in how you see and how you paint).

Thanks @peacockandfig, that's exactly what I'm trying to say! It's useful for those interested in art theory.

Oh wow, that's amazing! I hope to go out there myself one day and have the lovely Frank show me around.

Hi Janet, it's in the description :)

Thank you. Your explanation is a lesson in itself and you have done it so succinctly.

Brilliant analogy. Very new to the concepts of "making art", and found myself fumbling to understand. We've all taken photos, though, and this completely opened my understanding. Thank you!

I should have had you write my script, thanks very much for your beautiful explanation, and might I say, without the sass. I rather wish photography was part of art tuition, it would help so much.

@@emilyrosewildlifeart-paste9820 "...and I might say, without the sass." Emily Rose, after reading many of the comments here, I have a few things to say: There was A LOT of "sass" (though I would likely have used a different term for it!), and you have handled it with real grace. Where you could have been defensive or snarky, you were self-deprecating, non-defensive, and added to a real discussion. Bravo! 🙏

@@JordanHunter333 Thanks Jordan, I appreciate that!

Hi Dorothy, yes that one is only 6 pages, it's to give you the materials list, outline and photo. There are some longer free classes on here like the Highland cow, it's a bit old but is a full online lesson.

This KZbin Timelapse doesn’t have the image to use, this is a course on my website I’m afraid. This is talking you through my thought processes on creating a painting 😊

I love the passion this video has brought out in people.

I'm up for that, it sounds like my degree all over again to be honest

I am indeed

Fair enough! It's all about finding the right explanation for you, I hope you find something that clicks!

Hi, I haven't done this myself but would think you may encounter some issues. Chalk based media doesn't interact well with a wax or oil based medium like coloured pencils. This could mean the clarity of your marks are lost or the pencils don't show up properly over the pastel/crumble away!