So no ozone, no uv, no amino, no carbon dosing. It seems like it was lost decade, I mean, we try to invent and do new things but the basics works , even better maybe. Anybody agrees?

Excited to see the new venue for ReefStock - Denver 2025! At least we have the memories from the old venue! And Raj must've forgotten that it wasn't cold last year in Denver, it was sunny and mild weather all weekend.

dude, it wasnt mrsa. it was staph. you have it growing on your skin right now. and serratia is not a gut bacteria. its the pink stuff on old shower curtains

I adore Salem's stance here. It's a needed and informed perspective in a hobby that would rather reach for the easy fix with a bottle, than understand the risks associated with it. My background is in agricultural science where I'm a federally certified conservationist. And while I work with terrestrial systems, not marine. The reefing hobby's cavalier attitude towards antibiotic and pesticide use is very worrisome. Reefing's approach of ignoring all other fields who have used antibiotics and pesticides regularly for decades, and ignoring those negative outcomes, is a recipe for eventual disaster. That's not to say antibiotics and pesticides should not be used, rather they should be selective and narrowly targeted. This hobby really needs to step back and understand what responsible use is for these compounds, follow established protocols (or fund professionals to create needed ones), understand what modes of action are, how to rotate them, and understand you need to be treating a well identified target organism. I cringe every time a reefer mentions a prophylactic treatment or worse a whole tank treatment for some perceived problem, or worse unknown problem. Odds are very good that reefers are well on there way to creating worse, and resistant pests when they use those two things on a regular basis. You want to see where this care free attitude around chemical pest treatments goes, look at the groups who raise animals and photosynthetic organisms by the thousands and millions, for decades. Go look at how many antibiotic resistant issues the cattle and poultry industry face, to say nothing of household pets. Go look at the number or herbicide resistant pest plant or insecticide resistant insects agriculture deals with. That's the result of half-a**ing or ignoring scientific guidelines for decades because it was 'too difficult' or they couldn't financially afford too. The end result is always the same, they wind up with a more difficult pest to control with fewer options on how to control it. It's why agriculture puts millions of dollars behind research and education of farmers and industry professionals. And reefing is casually ignoring all of it, and walking down that same well traveled path. Second, I completely agree the design process can be very enjoyable. I'm 2 years into my current upgrade process, and fully expect it to take a solid three more years before I officially fill it and start to establishing it properly. And it comes on the heels of several years simply sketching it out, doing calculations, and comparing options. Given the cost associated with even a modest size tank, why rush the design process? Half my extended timeline is due to budgeting the build and spacing out purchases, but the other half is simply trying to evaluate my options and sleep on it for weeks prior to any serious investments. I had a blast pricing out different size aquariums, and sketching in where they would best fit in my home. I went through a good dozen iterations before committing to a final location and tank purchase. And that's not counting the rest, the sump, the equipment choices, any supporting tanks... It's a hobby, take all the time you want. So long as you're enjoying the process. Finally, I adore that Reef Builders is sponsoring community science efforts to better understand the hobby. Thank you, and I hope you keep it going with more in the future.

In regards of DOC is putting activated carbon in your tank good or bad.

Someone on the reef groups said they got bad infection from microbater7. Any truth to this?

Show is getting better and better guys, love it. Getting that Jake and Mark vibe, not that’s the goal but really adds to the experience!

I can already see MRC step rotating acticated carbon drum cartridge DOC remover device that has a number of cartridges or chambers of activated carbon. One is in use for a set amount of time and then it automatically changes cartridge - like automated fleece roller but more manly and brutal! 💪🏻

Raj's accounta-bili-buddie "Nicole" 😆 I'm sure she'll be thrilled with you 😆

1:02:27 could dose peroxide to get radical production. You dont need much of it .We'll find out soon what effect it has on DOC and biome

Salem hasn’t aged!😂

16:06 had cyano with a doc of 2.18 and nitrtaes of 6pmm and phosphates of 0.08 so I'm not sure its as simple as stated

Disclaimer: I did misspeak and say some of the bottles contained “MRSA” - this is not verifiable with the testing that was done - all we know is that it it Staph aureus not what strain

Love the CRC hat from the Carolina Reefing Community!

A couple points of clarity…in the case of two of the products, a sample size of two (not one and one of them purchased several years apart), I’m aseptically trained, but I did not pull my samples in a BSC much like I didn’t pull my tank samples in a BSC. Why say all that? I think the results I have are fun, and I’d love for you to independently test, but I’d also like to retest when you’re testing. That independent thing matters. Buy your bottles now and test, because maybe some of these companies are taking a look. In fact, I know one is taking a look. Then later, buy the juice and test again. Come to MD. We’ll test together. I happen to know a guy with a BSC or two. This one is important. Salem mentioned MRSA, and that’s not what I found. My testing identified Staphylococcus aureus, but the AquaBiomics data I’ve been provided does not identify strains. We should NOT say MRSA when we don’t know if that bottle had a Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus strain. For accuracy’s sake, just mention staph. Jimbo

What about dosing carbon (vodka and vinegar) ? Good or bad for the good bacteria in the system ?

Great Ending 🤣🤣🤣

So you have identified a problem in the hobby, you have a good background knowledge of the issue. You've identified the difficulties in fixing this problem. This is the moment that every entrepreneur dreams about! If all these bottled bacteria companies are doing it wrong, then find a way to do it right! Come up with a product that an average reefer can implement and make some money man. You guys have said it's difficult to farm these beneficial pelagic bacteria but there are some labs that can do it, well let's get it done. This is a huge opportunity for some breakthrough product to hit the shelves. These companies make millions on these bact-o-bottles, seems like there is an opportunity here. I truly hope you come up with something, cause I know I would buy something that could help refresh my tanks biome.

Are there any Guinness world record for taking the longest time to build a reef tank ?

Why is hydrogen peroxide “definitely bad”? @14:40

Can't wait to see the effects of amino acids on the microbiome! Great therapy session!

Awww man, I thought the gift was going to be Mr. van der Wal would be coming back! We need a guest appearance asap! 😂😂😂

RAJ, We're getting older. If you don't do it now you probably never do it.😅

Did Salem earn better internet service after his first year? Let’s get him a solid 128k dialup. No more AOL free trial. 🎉 Love the therapy sessions. No copay.

very informative interview remy

Ordered the reef finder and coral finder cant wait!!

I just purchased a copy of Coral Finder 2.0 from Unique Coral!

This hobby can never be the same again without Jake Adams.

Love this.

Russell is a one of a kind legend

I still dont get the massive or thick thing?

Wonderful

Excellent podcast. Greatly enjoyed it. Wonderful work!

Great episode! Russell is doing amazing work! Cheers!

this podcast made me miss Jake. i'm sitting here reading the tool book with you all.

Ohh I could listen to Russel talk for hours and hours! Thank you, can’t wait for the Octocoral Finder 🫶👏

Awesome work Russell 👏

Russell my good sir!!!!! Absolutely cannot wait for the octocoral finder to drop😆😆

Loved this! Great fun discussions. 👏👏👏❤❤❤.

Few months ago started listening to al the podcast chronologicly missed a lot of realy good ones like this one when i listend them just out of order.

Is there somewhere we can see pictures or a video of Davids sump? I'd love to see what it actually looks like or plans for it.

Great episode! If we weren’t able to make reef stock Chattanooga and are interested in learning more about the dwarf seahorse macro tanks, is there another place we can go?

Please consider putting these videos on the main ReefBuilders YT. The intended audience is not being reached on this smaller channel. Good info people should hear.

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Loved this so much! I'm going to be trying some macros, for sure! I've been meaning to for a while 🙂

Great episode! @Biophile.Endeavors was the macro algae you gave to Julian the red with fluorescing orange spots that's being sold now as Atomic Broccoli? I got it from Colin Foord in 2023 and we were thinking it was halymenia stipitata?

I just got two frags of their gonis via ACI to gator corals then to me , they are so beautiful and opened right up and super fluffy

Great episode, guys! Loved the laughs-sounds like I missed an awesome show. Shoutout to my favorite Brandi and Than! 😊

Loved this!

This has to be the best reefing video I have watched in a LONG time!