Is the New "Probiotic Concoction" Coral Food Safe To Use? | #99

In this session, Allan Vo talks about his 'probiotic concoction' at length. We explore the ins and outs of how it's made, if it's safe and some ways to improve it in the future. This was a fun episode!
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[@LunaReef]

Phenomenal! The future is so bright with these young men. I can't help but think that Jake is smiling so big 🙏🏼🙂

[@stoneprone8629]

This episode was AWESOME! Having Allan and Salem going back and forth was incredible and informative to watch! Would love to hear from Allan again when he has more data to share!

[@johnbiddle2634]

Great episode. These guys are bringing so much to the hobby and it will be great to see where these ideas go in a couple years.

[@jsul2211]

Great episode Jake would be proud and so ready to do the study this

[@user-fv8dd9lj7g]

These bacteria and probiotic discussions are great. I’m glad this is a topic getting attention. Something I hadn’t thought of as a bacteria source, I was listening to Taras top shelf aquatics this morning, a video about fish in their refugiums. He mentioned that when the fish poop there contributing their bacterial contents to the aquarium. There’s been talk about fish poop as a Coral food,, I wonder what the foods that we feed our fish do to the Microbiome?

[@crt_reefs]

Right, healthy fish should have a healthy gut microbiome. Their excrement is then degraded by these bacteria, and those bacteria then serve to release more nutrients into the water column where the corals can then absorb the nutrients or potentially eat the bacteria or particulates from fish waste

[@BryznsReef]

Dang can’t believe we’re hitting reef therapy 100, hopefully mark makes an appearance sometime I miss hearing from him! #whatsinyourwater

[@Rockina2bar]

Great episode, would love to see Mark and Raj return for episode #100 #whatsinyourwater

[@ReefTherapy]

Unfortunately, we shot session 100 in Denver and Mark wasn't able to make it this year. I think you'll enjoy who we have on though! ~Remy

[@Vroomy1986]

Great questions Salem, I honestly think the food source that the corals consume in the wild WOULD be the best for the health of the reef. Great videos guys. Following from Australia. #whatsinyourwater

[@InappropriateReefer]

Fantastic episode with a heck of a lot of info to digest. Thank you all -- the future seems bright!

[@charleyschumaker2634]

Great episode! Reminds me of the Jake days to be honest lol can Salem recommend some bacteria strains for usage that aren’t terrestrial types? I believe I read Pseudomonas fluorescens is a commensal?

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[@Reef_Ranch]

Great discussion.

[@mattrussell2580]

Remy thank so much for this episode. This stuff is way above my head but very fascinating. I feel like this is the future of the hobby. Best of luck to Allan and Salem. Remy you raised the bar with this episode. Great work.

[@ReefTherapy]

I promised the RB community that we would continue to finesse and make each video and therapy we put out just a bit better. Constantly honing! Thank you for the kind words and positivity! ~Remy

[@josgraha]

Love this idea and Salem's expert advice. Fwiw aquaculture facilities probably have a different timeline for the microbiome. Once the bioflock has shipped or sunk, they can just start over which isnt an option in a long term reef tank setting. Ayo has anyone seen these aquaforest probiotic products? Similar concept i suppose but who knows what bacterial strains. Who can run a next gen sequencimg to find out?

[@michealprater]

Very interesting information, but I am not sure how practical this is for the average hobbyist. It also sounds like you are roped into it for the life of your tank once you start or it could create major issues down the road. If it was a purchase you could make like cultured phyto, this may be more viable. Not certain suiting up in Hazmat gear is viable as well. It is super exciting to see these young minds doing these experiments. It will undoubtedly shift the way we keep reefs ins the future.

[@deadgam3]

Can Salem elaborate on his tips on zoa care?

[@coralsofhouston]

Holy shit I thought Remy bought a coral from Dwayne Wade

[@ReefTherapy]

LOL!!! I leaked that he's a huge reefer! ~Remy

[@jahsreef8386]

😂 same

[@jackson6745]

Doogie Howser prodigy reefing here! Teach the old man with halides some new tricks!

[@salemclemens6148]

Halides are still king LOL

[@markm266]

Thanks for the podcast. Always has good info

[@atfinthehouse8631]

High flow, light high. Weeping willow will get longer, thinner polyps and will look like a carpet of long tentacled anemone but more rhythmic flow. You can do this with Japanese deep water long tentacled neon green toadstools. Be aware of what other corals are around them. They don’t care for nepthia and sinularia,

[@gomisreef]

As a scientist, I love listening to Salem Reef-Science the crap out of it. Take a bow Salem. Take. A. Bow.

[@telegraham]

+1 for the Andy reference!

[@queencityreefs]

Yall went completely scientific. Now I need therapy 😂😉 I want to hear the tricks to not melting the zoas from Salem.

[@ReefTherapy]

These sessions are good for the soul! ~Remy

[@oceanhighz]

@@ReefTherapy I'm 100% interested in the not melting tricks.... there are a few varieties that no matter what I do, eventually they melt, or the same one will melt out of nowhere, and of course they're generally more expensive, lol

[@Chris58369]

Awesome live!!! 😊 #WhatsInYourWater

[@kalamazoo_reefer]

Wait. Did Remy really drop an Ozempic joke and get absolutely no credit at all for it? Did I hear that correctly? I almost spit out my coffee just now laughing.

[@ReefTherapy]

Maybbeeeeeeee lol ~Remy

[@carlholmberg7303]

Growing salmon for profit (weight etc) is not the same as growing salmon for health. Also wouldn’t most mixed bacterial cultures become monocultures in time? Lactobicillus would create lactic acid which would be like carbon dosing?

[@salemclemens6148]

Correct - although I doubt lactobacillus would be surviving in these conditions as it prefers an acidic environment and the addition of calcium carbonate to the concoction would act as a buffer But many other strain will produce similar metabolites This strategy would likely lead to a significant decrease in nutrients in solution

[@crt_reefs]

Agreed, health vs weight is good discussion to dive into. From the studies I’ve reviewed the organisms displayed enhance immune response, increased growth rates, respiration, and increased red blood cell count among other notable improvements. While not directly applicable to corals, these health benefits noted in more complex organisms could potentially have other downstream positive effects on the corals. Population dynamics will shift over time in a closed environment, exploring these trends and dynamics will be important in the long run as trends begin to shift in the industry and new innovations are made.

[@oldschoolnewventure845]

what's up Salem, I spoke with Chris and he is definitely up for the meet.

[@Ellery-USA]

#WhatsInYourWater Haha I'd try the goop! This is definitely the next frontier.

[@Xristie]

When will the march madness contest up and can we sign up

[@ReefTherapy]

It's up! Reefbuilders.com - you'll see the "Reef Royale" on the home page.

[@Stratty_Boyy]

#WhatsInYourWater Gosh I love the science of goop!

[@ReefTherapy]

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[@Stratty_Boyy]

Thank you so much for not only supporting the new generation of reefers like myslef but supporting the community as a whole@@ReefTherapy

[@taysmity]

#whatsinyourwater I have know idea? two years keeping corals I would love to cut down on water changes. I think this is a step towards that.

[@ReefTherapy]

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[@1GolfJones]

I'd love to try intermittent ICP testing but with the cost of everything else in this hobby it's hard to justify anymore additional cost to: the boss/my wife.

[@criofilmes]

me and ma corals having some yakut will be great

[@UncleBsReef]

Great cideo! Thanks! #whatsinyourwater

[@floweringreefs206]

I would love to go on the podcast and talk about the engineering side of reefkeeping, or maybe lack there of? I saw you had a Chem E, maybe a Mech E can provide insight on something other than chemistry.. like the technology you use to keep the tank alive 24/7 and what needs improvements what’s a gimmick etc…

[@ReefTherapy]

The life support side of things? That would be a good idea! ~Remy

[@floweringreefs206]

@@ReefTherapy absolutely! Other possibly topics being the rise of 3D printing in the hobby and how to get into it.. which lighting is more efficient, what materials to use and why etc… if the viewers agree it would be phenomenal!

[@oldschoolnewventure845]

I don't know what's in my water, can't you help me Remy?

[@CGKFPV]

#whatsinyourwater

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#Whatsinyourwater?

[@oldschoolnewventure845]

what the hell kind of cup is that Salem? A ninja turtle?

[@salemclemens6148]

That is Master Chief from the video game "Halo"

[@stine4132]

#WhatsInYourWater Need to make sure there aren't any rogue rats that might've snuck in

[@ReefTherapy]

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#whatsinyourwater Did I do that right? Lol

[@dcobbler8897]

I dont watch these anymore cuz by the time they get to the bread and butter its 30 mins in…

[@ReefTherapy]

Thanks for the comment though! ~Remy

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