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@alcalc8938
@alcalc8938 Күн бұрын
I have triple wall stainless pipe. In 15 years i have brushed it 3 times(i slide the stove to the side and brush from inside) i have never got more that a quarter cup of flakes. And looking up through the pipe it is clean as can be.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Сағат бұрын
i also have a triple wall chimney in my freestanding stove, Like you in seven years it has never needed cleaning. unlike ceramic tiles creasote does not like to stick very well to stainless pipe. I put a liner in the stack with the video, it is corrugated so creasote does stick but it comes off with a nylon brush. thanks for commenting.
@reallybadaim118
@reallybadaim118 4 күн бұрын
I have a very long and heavy tow chain that I drag up there and feed down the chimney. I rattle it all around in a circular motion and it knocks a lot off. Then follow up with the brush. But that chain gets heavier and heavier every year.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 4 күн бұрын
@@reallybadaim118 yea I now have a liner in this chimney. Creasote comes off easy with a nylon brush. My other chimney is smooth wall double layer insulated. In 7 years it has never needed cleaning. When you first start a fire you hear the creasote flaking off...sounds like rain in the stove. Short of 🧨 I was never able to get a steel brush to do much stuck to clay liners
@jermaineb3842
@jermaineb3842 5 күн бұрын
How do you know if Awning is sheet metal or aluminum
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 5 күн бұрын
@@jermaineb3842 easiest way to tell is with a magnet. Aluminum is non magnetic
@1967brokedude
@1967brokedude 6 күн бұрын
I know this is older but is that stove installed as an insert ?
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 6 күн бұрын
@@1967brokedude yes the ember hearth was sold as both a insert and a free standing stove with legs being the only difference
@1967brokedude
@1967brokedude 6 күн бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading I heard you say that after my comment. I found one for sale locally ( supposed excellent cond ?) am going to replace my fire place at some point anyways . I have not removed the old one to know what I'm getting into.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 6 күн бұрын
@1967brokedude if it is for your home you are better off buying a new insert and using the gov tax credit. While those stove were cutting edge in the 1980s newer stoves use allot less wood. I would recommend it for any large outbuilding though as it is a BTU beast.
@ODH3
@ODH3 6 күн бұрын
If you're worried about shrinkage on cold days, the best solution is thermal underwear
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving 7 күн бұрын
Nice video and good information. You still like the Lyson unit?? Thanks for sharing! Blessings.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 7 күн бұрын
@@OutdoorsandCountryLiving the lyson unit works great. My only complaint is the vessel could be heavier guage. The head and everything else work great.
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving 7 күн бұрын
@ thank you for the reply. Not sure which one I will end up getting. I don’t want a junk one that’s for sure. lol
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 7 күн бұрын
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving there are not many to choose from. I would not get a jacketed one. You can use a small space heater with the machine set to mix very effectively. Also if you don't have a bottle that can do creamed honey then hold off as you will need to have both.
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving
@OutdoorsandCountryLiving 7 күн бұрын
@ thank you. Our bottling machine will do creamed honey too. Appreciate your suggestions and input!
@timothybencher9231
@timothybencher9231 8 күн бұрын
That’s terrible
@louieboujee5757
@louieboujee5757 10 күн бұрын
Your video is legendary.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 10 күн бұрын
@@louieboujee5757 I don't know about that but I do hope people find it useful. When working on things we are always just one bolt away from having a one hour job turn into a all day job. I spent more time trying things that didn't work trying to get the boots off than I did making the tool that did work. Thanks for commenting
@dalesworld1308
@dalesworld1308 10 күн бұрын
On the rib when used as roofing (your method has water traveling down over the screw/nail and washer). On the flat when used as siding.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 7 күн бұрын
Not my method, it is the manufacturer spec. it eliminates thermal expansion issues so the screws stay tight.
@dalesworld1308
@dalesworld1308 6 күн бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading I've seen different instructions on sheet panels of my pole barn (which I put up myself) so I think even manufacturers can't agree on a method.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 6 күн бұрын
@dalesworld1308 honestly it really depends on the size of your structure. Larger roofs with lots of panels the thermal expansion becomes a problem and the screws become loose. Smaller roofs it will not be a problem screwing on the rib but it will not be as windproof.
@c2004398x
@c2004398x 11 күн бұрын
Don't use a grinder. Ever. It will kill your roof as the sparks from the cutting process stick to the painted surface. Don't believe me, it also works with your car windscreen. Use tin snips or a nibbler. Its slower but your rood will thank you.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 11 күн бұрын
agreed that snips are better but for that one cut i use a grinder as i need a little room for the metal where the vent slides under.I find it hard not to overcut when using snips. i used a diamond cutter in the video. they cut much finer and dont seem to produce the paint killing sparks a standard blade does plus you have more control over the cut. As a added bonus snips seal the edge of the roofing
@candiswilson7873
@candiswilson7873 13 күн бұрын
I have the exact same wood stove. It came with the house that we bought. Do you have any idea the square ft it provides heat for? And mine doesn't have a screen. Ugh
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 12 күн бұрын
It depends on how much wood you want to feed. You can probably get 80000 but and heat 2000 sqr ft of it is centered in the home and have the fan running. You will be feeding it a lot of wood. I heated 1200 ft with mine
@ogreunderbridge5204
@ogreunderbridge5204 13 күн бұрын
I never had buildups like that, but then I never starve my stove for much oxygen either. If I want a smaller and long lasting heat (as ex overnighters) I rather select the bigger, unsplit logs from the shed. I always make sure to run more intensive small wooded or plank material fires at weekly regular frequence. I clean my flue once a year at most, usually with little crud to report about.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 13 күн бұрын
@ogreunderbridge5204 the stove I had in the video had a huge firebox that was hard to manage. It had a steel box and was prone to overfire if you didn't choke it down. I didnt ever run smoldering and I kept a warm chimney 24-7. I have since replaced the insert with a cast iron and soapstone. I also installed a liner that a brush will remove the creasote. The liner is not as good as insulated solid pipe though as the solid stuff I can keep clean by just a maintenance fire in the morning. Thanks for commenting
@RonDog815
@RonDog815 17 күн бұрын
Drax is the worlds largest pellet manufacture and my son is building a new mill ???
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 17 күн бұрын
@@RonDog815 enviva is the world's largest with a combined output of 6.2 MN tons a year compared to drax which is only 3.9
@romy4593
@romy4593 17 күн бұрын
We live on an island with no stores or businesses. We had a power outage for 5 days out here. Hubby had a nice shower, and we cook on our flat top wood stove. Wood is free out here....our neighbors left the very next morning...cold, no showers and no food. So it was their pellet stove is why. They have to get 40 lb bags of pellets to carry by ferry or private boat, its toxic if kept in enclosed areas...safety?? Good luck with that, read up on the Japanese cargo ship that had crew members die when they went into the hold with pellet bags. We can load up wood in our home in 4 different holders, a big boiler copper Kettle with kindling, 3 different wood holders so its about 3 days of firewood. It is not recommended to store pellet bags in your home not just for the dampness but the fumes they give off! So you have to buy it and haul those 40 lbs bags. We are finishing up our pick up of the Maple we are chopping up free right here, easy on our own time frame. Got a dead tree we cut up off the road, a neighbor put out hardwood Alder rounds for free...The burn off from our neighbors pellet stove filled our front yard with dark smoke?? Yes I will keep my woodstove and this petite lady cleans out the wood stove ashes, helps hubby get firewood and it keeps us in better shape. I just turned 61 and love getting firewood. My step Mom is out getting firewood with her son out in Oregon at 81.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 17 күн бұрын
@@romy4593 yea being on a island a pellet stove doesn't make much since to me. The black smoke probably means the pellets have gotten too much moisture in them as they are supposed to burn really clean and hot. If you have any woods at all the trees normally can outpace your consumption. I had a 46 inch diameter oak tree that unfortunately died of old age 168 yrs or so. It will provide me with firewood for a half decade
@sledsled34
@sledsled34 18 күн бұрын
Good morning from Wakefield Rhode Island. I enjoyed your comparison of wood vs pellet stoves. Do you have any experience with or opinions on rocket mass heater stoves sir?
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 17 күн бұрын
@@sledsled34 there are lots and lots of designs. What I will tell you is this. The more mass your stove has the better. My stoves are cast iron and soap stone lined. They store allot of heat. So that is a plus. A rocket stove pulls allot of air for combustion. Without a cold air intake you will be pulling outside air into the home which is bad. My freestanding wood burning stove has a cold air intake and it takes almost no wood to heat a large space because of it. So rocket technology is fine as long as it is made from thick materials and preferably has a cold air intake.
@Kip4500
@Kip4500 20 күн бұрын
Reverse issue. I just bought my Elite with a Kohler and 48" deck to replace my 25 year old Toro Zmaster. I am so used to the Toro handles and when I pulled back on my BB it hit me in the stomach. I'm 5‘10 215 lbs. Not too fat haha. I reversed the bolts, moved the sticks to the top hole only and cocked them out as much as possible. What I feel may be my biggest issue is a user error. I realized I can open the sticks up slightly to widen the handle gap and it gives me more room to pull the sticks back. I hope this made sense and can help someone. I look forward to many years of mowing with my Bad Boy
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 20 күн бұрын
@@Kip4500 the next model up has adjustable handles ....a really nice feature. You will love the mower , it mows as fast as I want and has enough power to even do overgrown fields. I would recommend you buy genuine bb blades as they are really good. I ordered some aftermarket off of Amazon and had to send them back as they were curved and dull right out of the box. Thanks for commenting
@JohnnyWood-i9y
@JohnnyWood-i9y 22 күн бұрын
Chris, do you have any vitex seeds to sell? I thought you normally harvest around December.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 22 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyWood-i9y I will be giving them out for free at nahbe
@eliasveloz5815
@eliasveloz5815 29 күн бұрын
I just got mine installed but mine get to hot to engage catalytic converter. Home many pieces of wood do you put in over a night fire. Also once temp is in range is it ok to leave catalytic converter on over night what would happen if temperature get to low.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 29 күн бұрын
@@eliasveloz5815 ok your first issue it getting too hot to run with the converter. You need to use the blower when you have a hot fire this will keep the stove from getting too hot which usually occurs when the fire has mostly converted to coals. For a overnight fire are tricky as what type of wood you use size of log etc all play a role but in general you want a fire not a smoldering fire to keep your chimney clean. So it is better to burn a hotter fire and build up allot of coals then add a stick or two to get some coals for the morning. As far as your converters go they are fine on the cool down side. The temp range on the cool side is to prevent them from clogging from soot. Late stage of the fire will not have any soot. If your converters to get clogged run up a hot fire just below the too hot line and then close the bypass. This will clean the. Out. Lastly I would recommend you use the blower more . I have mine on a remote. As soon as mine hits the mid range I close my bypass and turn on the fan. This will save you from having to constantly check that the fire is not getting too hot.
@eliasveloz5815
@eliasveloz5815 27 күн бұрын
@ just a example if I load it up with wood over night can I leave the bypass open with no fans on even tho the temp range is to hot. Also on your video u mentioned that to leave the air vent flush with the ash try. But mine doesn’t even go more In passing the ash try.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 27 күн бұрын
@eliasveloz5815 no i would not recommend it as you are at risk in overfiring the stove which could warp and ruin the stove plus you are leaving a big fire unattended which is never a good idea. Also you will be loosing allot of heat that way. Also make sure you have plenty of ash in the stove as this will insulate and keep the coals till morning.what I do typically is load the stove 1 1/2 hour before bed with a full load. Burn on with the damper open fan on high. At bedtime I will have nothing but a large mound of coals. I then shut the damper and turn off the fan as my heat gauge will read middle range. This I believe is the safest way to go and you will have coals and a warm stove in the morning..side note for slower burns 1/8 from closed is what my stove is when the damper is flush with the ash pan.
@eliasveloz5815
@eliasveloz5815 13 күн бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteadingthanks for the info. Example so say in the morning and a have coal from last night can I add wood in the morning with bypass on and fans on high. Since I wouldn’t be home. To engage catalyst
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading 13 күн бұрын
@eliasveloz5815 you could do that as long as the stove is hot enough at the start.but I never like leaving a fire unattended. If you are home a couple of hours you could burn a faster fire with smaller wood. Build up plenty of coals before you leave and leave the fan on low or whatever setting you like. Low will give you longer heat.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 Ай бұрын
Threaded cap screws are the way to go. I shim the tall rib with cedar wood for a tight seat. Never put metal over shingled roofs they do not seat flat well at all. Tar paper is cool for sure. The bitch with any fasteners is the voids in the plywood or chipboard. When the fastener just drops into the wood. YOU have to fix the hole you just made. The method chosen means a lot. My neighbor used bolts that get washers and nuts under the roof itself. THIS IS THE WAY TO GO. THE BEST FASTING METHOD. NAILS NOT SO MUCH.... The best way to make a metal roof. PEROD !!!!
@job38four10
@job38four10 Ай бұрын
On the flat, on the peak, on the flat, on the peak................. This is one topic where there is no consensus, it's like Ford vs Chevy... 14 years ago I built fair size garage, roof at 35° - ish, 16' on both sides of peak, with regular synthetic underlayment for metal roofing. The metal roof seller recommended 2-in screws every 2ft- ish on peaks, so thats what I did. I also first pre-drilled panels on saw-horses which is a good idea, but dont pre-drill rib where the top panel over-laps, and After 5 years I went back up on roof and noticed some screws loosen and a few broke but still had a lot of screws holding, and no leaks yet..... 2 years ago I built an addition on my house, 14ft out and 30ft long with very shallow pitch, some where around 1in drop/ft. I have 2 ft eve, so the first 8 in wide boards are on the eve, then the next row I have 3/4 in gap, the rest of 1 in x 6-8-10 in wide in boards are tight rest of way. Then I put down recommended metal roof whether shield, that stuff should be put down with two people, I started at that 3/4 in gap on eve... My theory for that was, if water/moisture builds up on top of whether shield it will flow out that 3/4 in gap between boards, which it did til I got addition insulated. Then I started by placing 4 metal sheets on saw-horses and pre-drilled holes on flats and used 1 in screws, I notice these new screws didn't have as thick of rubber washer as before. So then I paced those foam seals at end of metal roof to help keep the wind from catching the metal roof peaks, then placed screws about every 4 in across the end of metal roof, so with gable rakes screwed down theres no way this metal roof will blow off...... So I screwed all this addition metal roof down on all flats except for the top where is metal flashing going up under previous asphalt shingles on main house, that is caulked and screwed about every 6 in across, then same at the eve, there I also did flats and peaks. So all rest of 16ft panels is screwed down on flats for same reason this video describes, and for the very same reason this video described.... So, on flat on on peaks...... IMO, flats are better for same reason describe in this video, another reason is it's easier to just set the drill driver to correct torque run screws down, on the peaks it's so easy to easy to over tighten, it's a constant pain when trying to just get the metal roof screwed down. But either way flat or peaks, I really dont see how metal roof can leak with that rubber washer, that rubber wash is protected by a big steel special shaped washer which is on top of rubber washer, and it is holding that rubber washer to the roof. As this video described, the heat moves the peaks not the flats, so the screws on flats wont move........... But either way, if someone is putting down metal roof and has a shallow pitch, I highly recommend metal roof whether shield made for metal roofs................
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@job38four10 thanks for your lengthy reply I am sure others will appreciate it as well. I agree with you 100 percent. The foam under the cap you may want to only do only on the windy side as this will prevent wind from blowing through while also allowing your roof to breathe.
@job38four10
@job38four10 Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading { " while also allowing your roof to breathe. " } <<<<< Hence the reason for 3/4" gap between first row of eve boards and the next row of boards, the 3/4" air breathing gap is underneath the eve, not on the end metal roof peaks. But the only breathing will be done is between the whether shield and metal roof, that whether shield stuff dont breath..... I have the metal roof panels on the eve completely seal with foam and caulk, because it's a shallow roof pitch that drops about 1" in 12". If the metal roof eve panels are not sealed on a shallow pitch roof, the wind and rain will blow up under the metal roof causing rain to drip behind the eve. I want water to drip outside of eve so eve boards dont rot, I also put the paint right under the eve for longer protection..... To help keep eve boards from rotting, I no longer plumb the eve facer board, I always cut rafters at 90° on ends, that way the eve facer boards are not plumb and allows water to shed quicker, in theory........
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@job38four10 cutting rafters at 90 was how it used to be done back in the Victorian days. 1/12 pitch is a mighty flat roof. Far more shallow than the roofing specs at. Where there is a will there is a way. I hope you don't live in snow country as that could get bad in a blizzard. Not on a leak issue as it seems you have that worked but but on a weight issue due to the snow load.
@job38four10
@job38four10 Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading { " cutting rafters at 90 was how it used to be done back in the Victorian days. " }<<<< I didn't know that, I thought that was my invention..... 1/12-ish..... I think I read somewhere that screw down metal roofing is suppose to have more of a pitch and 1/12 pitch should be on a standing seam roofing. It's the main reason I put down weather shield made for metal roofing. I also live in mid-coast ME where snow is or can be a issue, thats why I did not want asphalt shingles. So with my limited carpentry skill set I put up 2"x10"x 16' rough cut rafters spaced 2' on center, the joist hangers are on 1-1/2" x 10" facer eve plank, then the rafters go out 14' and sets on a rough cut 2"x6"x 6' > something wall......... This is winter 2 and I still praying everything holds up, coarse I'd feel better if I knew how much weight rough cut 2x10 rafters will hold up on a 14' span......
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@job38four10 lap steel roofing like the one in the video is rated for 3/12 pitch or better. On flat roofs of around 1/12 I always went with EPDM rubber roofing. With a 50# snow load you would need those rafters to be spaced at 12 inches not 24. If your live load is 20# and your dead load is 10# then you rafters are good as you should be able to span 15 feet. This is however the minimum build plus this is just a basic number. Other factors can also affect your span such as ceiling attachment to the rafters. Most northern cities or states have there own rafter span charts with snow loads. I would start there. Good luck.
@randyscrafts8575
@randyscrafts8575 Ай бұрын
Yep. It's a controversy.....and the real reason for this video. On the ribs it is. That's where water does not run. The wall are ok to screw to the flat. I don't recommend screwing the roof down on the flat.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@randyscrafts8575 honestly I did not know it was that much of a controversy. I just got tired of people telling me I installed my roof wrong when I followed the manufacturers screw schedule.
@randyscrafts8575
@randyscrafts8575 Ай бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading Been in maintenance for a lot of years. Sometimes manufacturers can be wrong and following their directions can cause the failure of their product. I say use your head and common sense. If whatever you're doing works, then go with it. Everyone has their own experience. In mine the roof screws go on the rib and regardless of manufacturers instructions. I'd never recommend roof screws on the flat but you do whatever you think is correct.
@timovilkki5209
@timovilkki5209 Ай бұрын
I bought that device a month ago.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
it will save you allot of time if you can run your blades through twice, also try to sharpen all of your blades so they are all the same width so you dont have to monkey with the machine for every blade.
@timovilkki5209
@timovilkki5209 Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading Thanks for the tip. Terveiset Suomesta.
@btchpants
@btchpants Ай бұрын
Screws and blackjack. Good to go.
@WildDongFresh
@WildDongFresh Ай бұрын
No.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
i will counter your no with a yes
@cobravids
@cobravids Ай бұрын
I just reroofed the roof on my giant chicken coop. I put two screws in the valleys. Does not leak and our texas rain has put her to the test. No issues. Screw in the valley like the manufacturers suggest.
@abdullahwazir360
@abdullahwazir360 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@abdullahwazir360 your very welcome
@tommccully2109
@tommccully2109 Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@dennisgarber
@dennisgarber Ай бұрын
You have to screw into the ribs for snow bars. I would at least caulk under, if doing it again. I chose snow bars, since the shoes screwed into the flat are known to cause leaks, being on the flat and if they break off, I read.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@dennisgarber snow bars I have seen before but it is rare that they are used in East TN. I always thought it might be better to have some type ove overrib where the snow could slide off without talking out the gutters. I know people who have lots of snow the weight becomes a issue for the roof itself. Thanks for commenting
@dennisgarber
@dennisgarber Ай бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading without the snow bar, the snow sheered off my garage gutters. Ohio. On the house, I also extended the metal as far as I could, into the gutters, to take a little snow weight off the gutters. I have steep and not so steep roof parts.
@dennisgarber
@dennisgarber Ай бұрын
The snow gaurd shoes look nicer. But I choose the cheaper rail, because I read they fail and leak less.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@dennisgarber I think in my next life I would design a house with large overhangs and a French drain system so I could go without gutters entirely. They are such a hassle
@dennisgarber
@dennisgarber Ай бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading I have seen and noted that houses with double long overhangs hold paint up to 30 years with good surface preparation because of the extra shade. Probably 2x longer than single wide eaves.
@craigquinn7887
@craigquinn7887 Ай бұрын
As far as I can tell, America is the only place on earth that screws or nails steel roofing down in the water channel and not the top of the ridge, as it was designed for! Corrugated roofing sheets were invented in London back in 1829 and within 12 months were being shipped to Australia and used in early construction, both the English and the Australians still fix our sheets on the ridge and never in the valleys, as it was designed.. just sayin 😁😁
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@craigquinn7887 there are many profiles of metal roofs and I have installed many on the rib as that was what was called for. The downside of through the rib has always been wind resistance and weakening of points of attachment due to thermal expansion. The metal profile in the video calls for screws on the flats but there are plenty of profiles that are designed for on the rib. From the comments here I take that no one has ever mounted screws on the flats down under. Thank you for commenting
@royburgerbreath
@royburgerbreath Ай бұрын
You need to silicone the screwheads on metal roof , I just re did a whole interior of living room that had to be gutted because of screws backing out by themselves on a metal roof. The silicone appears to absorb the expansion and contraction energy and stops them from backing out. Just dont look good if you take a hard look at the silicone wod . The screws backing out and the UV destruction of gasket material are the biggest enemy of a metal roof.. Silicone appears to resolve and holds up over time from what Ive seen
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@royburgerbreath a much easier solution is to use the new one piece head screws. The head and the washer are one piece with a recess for the seal which is completely covered. The screw is also a larger diameter further preventing blackout while increasing holding power. If you use silicon make sure it says it is for gutter and flashing. Regular silicone contains a acid to help it bond and will damage metal roofs.
@royburgerbreath
@royburgerbreath Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading The regular silicone is vVinegar (acetic acid) What kind of damage have you seen from this?
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@royburgerbreath I have seen it ruin the galvanized roofing. It ate Right through the zinc and rusted badly in only about a year. I got to replace a whole roof because the brother of the owner patched the roof and used regular silicone. . So any unpainted bare metal would be a issue like the screw holes themselves. I have not seen any damage on painted because I have never used regular silicone always the gutter and flashing silicone instead.
@royburgerbreath
@royburgerbreath Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading Good to know. In this case it was a painted metal roof that I used the regular silicone (that smell is VINEGAR too!) We need to make aluminum great again so We dont have these issues with METAL ROOFS.. DID you know aluminum is the 3rd most abundant element on Earth and WHY in the USA aluminum roof panels so hard to come by?? They shut off most the smelters because of 'global warming' while China turned on their aluminum smelters // Aluminum is an amazing material for roofs and does not react like the way your issue did with regular silicone
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@royburgerbreath I live close to Alcoa allot of aluminum is still smelted here. The problem with aluminum it takes a thicker sheet to achieve the same strength and 2 it has a much larger rate of thermal expansion .0000128 vs .0000072 it would be nice though as you could have a anodized panel that would look cool. He other problem is that aluminum is a reactive metal which will react with steel so you would need to address that issue.
@michaelcrawley2359
@michaelcrawley2359 Ай бұрын
Looks like it's not your first chimney fire. The damper should never be closed more than half way.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@michaelcrawley2359 damper only got shut to 1/4 after I had coals only. It was not my first but I hope it was my last as I have never found anything that will remove creasote from tile liners. I have replaced the wood stove and installed a stainless liner which cleans well with a nylon brush.
@bruceb3786
@bruceb3786 Ай бұрын
Screws put into the flats into wood below will positively leak from cyclic heating and cooling, and the resultant leak will rot the wood below. Guaranteed. Use longer screws into the ribs, tightened just enough to "take the slack out", while only slightly compressing the sealing washer. Built one this way in 2006......24' x 42' , slope 1/2 on 12. zero leaks 18 years later.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Screws in flats don't move the way they do on the rib as the panels are able to move independently of one another. This eliminates the thermal expansion width wise leaving only the length of the panel to be a factor which is normally not long enough to be a factor. I have roofs 20 years old screwed in the flats with no leaks
@bruceb3786
@bruceb3786 Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading , are the screws you installed going into metal below, or into wood? If into wood, you are one of few who has had no leaks. On the other hand, if you live in AZ or NM, the point is moot. I stand by my point, if screwed into the peaks, there will be no leaks, if done correctly. You cannot tighten the screws to the point where they severely compress the rubber washer, or distort the shape of the sheetmetal peak. "Stitch screws" with butyl tape are used at all overlapping seams to seal them together. They are not left to just flap in a wind. The "stitch screws" do NOT go into the substrate below. They are used only to "stitch" the seam together. YOU ARE CORRECT that putting screws into the flats works, if the substrate is a metal purlin, as in real metal building construction. The correct number of screws, and placement of those screws, is REQUIRED to get a UL Class 90 Wind Rating on the roof installation, for insurance Company purposes. I was a superintendent on metal building construction for 5 years.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@bruceb3786 I am going into wood a minimum of 5/8 decking. Steel structures are different than wood as you don't have to worry about thermal expansion as you do when going through wood and screwing through the rib. In a all metal framed building going through the rib would be the only way I would install it. And yes I know how stitching screws work, it is all I ever use to install caps and allot of other trim. Thanks for commenting
@bruceb3786
@bruceb3786 Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading , I just know what I have seen work, and not work so well.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@bruceb3786 same here the key problem with all roof installations is getting workers that actually care. When screwing in the flats it is common to overtighten and then back out instead of replacing the screw entirely. I can't count the number of roofs I have seen that was done wrong. I replaced a brand new roof once because the installer had no idea how to screw the roof in or flash the chimney. There were leaks all over the place. Thanks for all your comments and have a merry Christmas
@jeffkennedy9028
@jeffkennedy9028 Ай бұрын
Done post frame building in the Midwest for 25 yrs, company worked for been in business since 1958 and we had Engineers from Purdue University, we only did the lap and next too rib on the flat of steel, building had wind rating of 80 mph for residential and 90 mph for commercial, they did loose to many buildings, except for tornadoes.
@hqlion
@hqlion Ай бұрын
In Australia we have exactly the same profile metal roofing you had in the video. My dad is a retired carpenter/builder with over 50 years in the trade and he would beg to differ. Screws always at the top of the rib, never on the flats and also the structure of the roof is stronger with correct length screws at the top of the ribs. If anyone on a building site put screws or nails in the flats or valleys they would probably lose their job.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Well i can understand those that want to go through the ribs but you are mistaken if you think it is stronger and here is why. first you are drilling through the stongest past of the panel weakening it, second you do not have a solid surface directly under the screw and metal which will allow for more movement, three you have no redundancy at the overlap. you have one screw holding down 2 ribs where through the flat you have a screw on each side of overlapping ribs. in the event that a storm pealed a panel off going through the ribs would keep the panels together allowing for a bigger sail and lose of more panels. Through the flat the panels are independent of one another allowing for both expansion and not doing a domino effect do to wind tear off. thanks for commenting
@gort5583
@gort5583 Ай бұрын
I can see the logic in what you are saying. I am not a roofer by trade but have worked on many corrugated iron roofs over the last 40 years and I have never seen roofs attached via nails or screws on the flats. Interesting what you have said.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@gort5583 allot of the wavy roofs are self correcting on thermal expansion with the panels growing taller instead of wider. If you follow the manufacturers screw schedule you should be good
@olliemoose2020
@olliemoose2020 Ай бұрын
Do the opposite to what this guy is saying and you will be fine, do not but your nail’s or screw in the lower profile part of the iron.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@olliemoose2020 I am not telling anyone what to do i am only telling what the manufacturer of my metal says to do. You should always follow the manufacturers screw schedule whether it is in the flats or the ribs.
@markbunn8576
@markbunn8576 Ай бұрын
I've installed them both ways. Usually if there is a leak it's because the screw was overtightened and split the washer. If that happens it would be less likely to leak in the rib, obviously. If they're tightened correctly it shouldn't be an issue either way.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Agree 100 percent about leaks. Wind on the other hand through the ribs you do not get near the wind resistance as the screws are typically weakened by thermal expansion and contraction plus with there is no redundancy where the two pieces overlap.
@samskinner8765
@samskinner8765 Ай бұрын
going through the ribs takes common sense to figure out, high spot will have less water, but common sense not too common these days, lol
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Even the Mennonites screw through the flat. they don't like their roofs flying off.
@mossig
@mossig Ай бұрын
When you walk on the roof the nails or screws tend to come out a bit and the seal is broken and more water will penetrate if you put the nails in the valleys. I own a large factory and every summer I need to renovate parts of the roof. What I see is that screwing in the valleys hasn't worked over time. It's not helping to tighten the screws either, I tried that but the holes in the wood just becomes larger and the screws comes out even faster. Due to the wast amount of snow we get over a meter it's necessary to showel away the snow, hence walking on the roof. The drawback on screwing on the ridge is that the shovel catches the screws. The best thing to do is to just build roofs that don't accumulate a lot of snow. In areas without snow I would screw in the valleys.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
your substrate can be a factor there, i only use 5/8 or thicker decking as 1/2 inch doesn't provide enough grip. It also sounds like your screws are not tight enough initially as there should be no space between the deck and the metal. I have done several 12/12 pitched roofs but it also did one 16/12 and had to use a extra snatch so i could climb up. those roofs will not collect snow.
@mossig
@mossig Ай бұрын
@@honeybeehomesteading Those areas that don't have a wooden frame construction have no issues. But wood is flexible. I weigh 100kgs, ad to that one meter of snow and no matter what thickness you use it will buckle. This movements is what forces the nails/screws out. It's better to use roofing tiles on wood roofs in my climate.
@sirmaster8972
@sirmaster8972 Ай бұрын
What if I said I had 2 metal roofs that have had about 4 screws in them each for the past 6 years… granted the metal I used was a bit heavier bring commercial grade.😂😂 honestly I’m very surprised they’ve held. Been like 2 or 3 hurricanes now… I believe the wood will rot before that roof goes 🤣
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
screws are much more about preventing wind damage. if i were you i would get more screws in that roof before you have a big storm and allot of damage
@sirmaster8972
@sirmaster8972 Ай бұрын
@ normally I’d agree but after this long and countless wind storms, they’re still there hanging on strong and haven’t moved an inch.. I don’t have to worry about neighbors and both would end up being caught by the surrounding trees if they did go.
@anthonymoya4531
@anthonymoya4531 Ай бұрын
Can you do a video on lap screws and where they go ?
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
I can and will see if i can get to it next week
@dougreformed8956
@dougreformed8956 Ай бұрын
Can only speak for NZ roofing culture... 1. Make your roof framing strong. You don't need additional structural strength from the roof cladding if your roof bracing is up to scratch 2. Putting a screw where the water runs as opposed to where it doesn't will increase the chance of leaks... Even if anecdotal testimonies claim no leaks 3. Rubber seals deform to meet the shape of the roof. Even if there is a round, they will form a perfect seal 4. Roof moment will not decrease the integrity of screws if you use the correct gauge screw. Sheet metal is way more moveable than the screw, movement will occur in the sheet, not the screw 5. You can screw the troughs at the ends over the eves so any leaks won't go inside the building and you'll still get the extra strength of the small fixing gap. 6. NZ roofing code never recommends valley fixing. You can read up on load forces and fastening recommendations in the roofing code here: www.metalroofing.org.nz/sites/default/files/RoofingCOP_v24-09_2024-09-01.pdf People love to hear different methods that have a sense of good reason to them. But the truth is they are alternative for a reason. The tried and tested method is almost always the best method.
@shanerorko8076
@shanerorko8076 Ай бұрын
Also on the structural element, I don’t know how you guys build in the US but here in Australia, the only structural load the sheets should have is lifting force.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
besides being able to handle a weight load, roofing panels when screwed in on schedule act the same way as sheathing preventing racking of the structure. This is handy when building sheds using purlins
@shanerorko8076
@shanerorko8076 Ай бұрын
So my dad is a water proofer and roofer ect, we also used to contract with his mate that was a roofer, dead now. My mate is a roofer. Here in Australia we always screw on top of the ribs, screws with the gasket, you tighten until the gasket gets a little crush and stop.
@JohnHenry2420
@JohnHenry2420 Ай бұрын
I don t care about getting rock whatever any more ...KZbin sure is sick in forcing ads on me and when i comment they dont want me to talk about the sick ad theyt present me.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
I am sorry they are forcing more ads. Whether or not a video is monetized youtube puts ads in it. It is still better than network tv which seems to devolved to more ads than content. I cant even try to watch a movie on regular tv.
@Mr-hm1wr
@Mr-hm1wr Ай бұрын
You're screw placement is incorrect boss. According to manufacturer specs, you would want to screw in the first channel of the valley compared to the last as you pointed out. The only time that would be different is if you weren't overlapping with another panel. The overlapping panel holds down the last rib on each piece. The bottom row (along the eve), and the closest valley column up a rake on each side would have two per valley. The exception being if you're using rake trim, you would leave the most outside screw off, because it would be receiving the rake trim which is screwed down there.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
not according to my specs the overlapping panel does not hold down the last rib of the previous panel. it can but if you do it that way and say a tornado rips off one panel the rest will fly off in a domino fashion. My specs have 2 screws holding down a joint rib one on each side.
@markoshun
@markoshun Ай бұрын
If the panel is screwed close to the rib or the middle, the difference in ‘structure’ would be nada. Then if the reason you don’t screw them together is to allow movement, then where is the structural integrity aspect gone? Then you show the peak screw “allowing a lot of leverage” which speaks against your point of peak screws not allowing movement. You are all over the place, which says to me this is a very surface level understanding. As it is I wouldn’t be able to take any of this as ‘correct’. Just watched an actual roof manufacturer demonstrate how to correctly set screws into both flat and peak.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Ok let me try to explain it better, screwing in the valleys allows the metal to expand and contract at the joint ribs. when you screw in the ribs you loose that "expansion joint". if you have a 75 ft wide building then you now have a 75 ft continuous piece of metal which with expansion and contraction puts leverage on those screws through the rib. As far as structural integrity goes the panel itself whey screwed on the flat becomes a rigid part of the structure. the same way that 4 x 8 sheathing works only with slightly different dimensions. going through the ribs negates the structural effect because the ribs can buckle and the flats can bow.
@------country-boy-------
@------country-boy------- Ай бұрын
A problem with screwing in the valleys on a 4/12 pitch roof is leaves get stuck on screws. Steel roof companies need to invent contoured battens to fit corregated steel roofing. Or better yet - some kind of contoured / insulated sheeting pannels instead of battens. Easy and fast to install. Pannels could be made of some kind of dense, fireproof, fiber reinforced foam. Very strong and quiet in the rain. Could fasten through ribs and would be strong and never leak. Million dollar idea.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
they have interlocking foam strips that match the contour of the roofing. i use them in high wind areas where blowing rain might make its way under the cap. the downside is that is eliminates the natural venting of the roof
@evanhughes3027
@evanhughes3027 Ай бұрын
Math at the end. I like the theory and I personally put metal in with one screw per pan, plus one (differently shaped) stitching screw in the conjoined panel ribs. We align overlay to not catch prevailing winds and it had worked so far. We're mostly dry climate, which helps. The coefficient of expansion is 0.0000065 "/"/°F. With a 200 delta F, that's a 0.0013" growth per existing inch. Over a 36" sheet width, it's 0.0468" or about 3/64". Also, no thermal expansion is accounted for along the length of the sheet which can be in excess of 20'.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
Yes it is about the math, The coefficient of expansion of steel has some variability based upon the alloy of the steel used from .0000065 to .0000072 textbook wise. i found a building material site that has the coefficient for roofing panels at .0000073 which is what i am going to use. I have done one store that had a whopping 150' length. Also remember to divide you length in half as metal will expand in both directions going to the ends of the structure. For my part i find it easier to start with a 100' run with a 100 degree temp which gives .876 or just a hair over 7/8. I use this number at it is easy to remember and i can do most of the calculations in my head. we have a 20 to 30 degree temp change on a daily basis so we will go with the average of 25 degrees. .876 /4 x .75 = .16425 which is close to 3/16 which in my opinion is way to much movement. this much movement will cause the screws to loosen or the holes to wallow out when screwed through the ribs. this of course is not a typical case more on average would be a 50 ft wide home which would yield about 1/16 which is still too much over a long time line. But if your width of metal is half that then i cant see thermal expansion being a issue in my climate. Desert climates are a whole other bag where temps can change from 50 to 75 degrees. glad i dont live there
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw Ай бұрын
So... every one following the instructions is wrong but voiding the warranty and making leaky roofs is the right way. Gotcha.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
You should follow the screw schedule aka instructions from the manufacturer otherwise you could void your warranty. this is the screw schedule from my manufacturer and they don't leak when done right.
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw Ай бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading ok fellow beekeeper. I put steel on my dad's house(looks exactly like yours on the peaks) my brother put the same on our grandmother's porch. Guess who put screws in the flats and who didn't (worried about deforming the ridges)and which one leaked? Oh not right away but after a few years in this hot sun those gaskets dry out.
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw how many years? Those seals are pretty durable if they are properly installed. Too tight and they deform and split. Not enough and they get too much sun exposure and split. I bet they were not tight enough. The washers will bond with the metal if they have enough pressure. I have had to use a chisel to remove them on old roofing.
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw
@Maputi_na_Kalabaw Ай бұрын
@honeybeehomesteading 2 on the porch my brother did and 27 on the house I did. People tend to drive the screws too tight
@honeybeehomesteading
@honeybeehomesteading Ай бұрын
@@Maputi_na_Kalabaw yea too tight and you make the steel washer turn into a funnel. The screw will leak even if the washer is ok.