Hope you enjoy!

I’m curious how the Switch port holds up.

Fromsoftware fans, haha jk! But it is a bummer that so much of the story is inaccessible outside of youtube. It's not really a single player game and I know there were technical limitations to consider, but it sucks that someone jumping in for the first time has the choice of either starting 2 years into the Destiny 2 story and still missing a bunch because of the seasonal storylines that are gone or just starting with the most recent expansion so they can actually experience the seasons, but also having no idea what's been going on for the last 10ish years between Destiny 1 and 2.

I agree, I think it gives new players a good chance to experience a lot of the game before they have to make a decision about buying anything!

In January 2023, IO Interactive rebranded Hitman 3 as Hitman: World of Assassination and included Hitman 1 and Hitman 2 with it for free, essentially bundling all three games into one. There are a couple of DLC things that you can get with the Deluxe Edition, but all three complete games are included with the base version of World of Assassination.

Yes, so excited for Outlaws!!!

@@YourFNGamers yep yep, I really hope they do make it immersive , and they have a wanted system which sounds super cool but just hoping they can implement it well, as I don’t want a AC open world with the same quests and repetitive movement over and over for the whole game

Yeah, I really enjoyed The Division games and thought their worlds felt immersive and the gameplay felt extremely fun, so I have some hope that they can translate that into a super cool Star Wars setting!

Thanks! Glad it was helpful!

Great question! So pretty much all of the expansions have some exotic weapons and armors that see regular use in the higher tiers of content. The Forsaken pack definitely has a bunch because it bundles a lot of the exotics from the older content into one place. The Witch Queen's campaign is praised by a lot of people and is often recommended, too, though I think it's raid is probably one of the less popular ones if you are interested in raiding. If you want to be able to grind out raids, The Legacy Collection is probably your best bet as it'll give you access to all but the newest raid and exotics that come with The Final Shape. If you're not looking to spend that much, Forsaken is a good one to pick up and then I'd recommend looking up some raid builds for whatever class you are playing and seeing which expansion those exotics come from and buying those since you're interested in raiding. The 30th Anniversary Pack does give you access to Gjallarhorn which is a top tier rocket launcher, so it may be worth it if you want to run that, but it does not come with a raid like pretty much every other expansion.

Yeah but then it wouldn’t have been a podcast episode 🙄

Good question! So it's my understanding that if you are using the same Bungie account on PC that you were using on Playstation, your cosmetics, weapons, and armors should all still be usable, regardless of whether you have the DLCs or not. You won't be able to get new exotics, weapons, and armors from the DLCs you owned on PS4, but the ones you already have aren't locked out or anything. From what I understand, the DLCs are tied to platform since you're purchasing those through Steam/Playstation/Xbox, but the cosmetics, seasons, and dungeon keys are cross platform since you buy them from Bungie directly with their premium currency.

Tanks for the info and awesome video

Sorcerers of the Beach, come on beat ToHardware!

Glad it was helpful! So my recommendation would be to see what expansions you have access to, like if it's just Forsaken or if it's more. From there, you can do the math and see if buying the ones you're missing is cheaper than just picking up the 2024 Legacy Collection. My guess is that if you're missing more than a couple, it'll probably be cheaper and easier to scoop up the Legacy collection on sale for about $25.

Or ignore the haters and buy what you want, YOU'RE welcome

It’s an interesting mechanic and it would be cool to see it iterated on.

Yes, the annual pass will unlock Episode 1: Echoes, Episode 2: Revenant, and Episode 3: Heresy as they become available over the next year along with the Dungeon Key. Buying The Final Shape, Episodes, and Dungeon Key separately would run you at least $100, so The Final Shape + Annual Pass for $80 is technically a deal. That said, $80 is still a decent amount of money, so what I always ask is, "How much Destiny 2 do you plan on playing?" If you're going to max out each episode's battle pass and play through all of the story and dungeons, then yeah, it's a good purchase. But if you can see yourself falling off or taking a break and missing out on some of the content you paid for, it might be wiser to just pick up The Final Shape, which comes with the current episode when you buy it, and picking the other stuff up bit by bit if you're still playing.

Good question, you will not unlock them immediately. You will get a few exotic ciphers that can be spent on some weapons upon purchase of the Forsaken Pack which comes with the Legacy Collection. For the rest it's a combination of quests, dungeons/raids, and random drops.

Yes, this was created at the release of The Final Shape in June 2024 and should be up to date. As of July 2024 there have been no changes. When Episode 2 and 3 come out, there may be some changes to the Silver/Cosmetics Bundle that they sell, but everything else should remain the same.

Destiny 2 is not on GamePass, but there is a lot of Destiny 2 that is free to play. The New Light, Shadowkeep, and Beyond Light campaigns are free to all players. The strikes, pvp, and gambit modes are all available as well. They even have the Prophecy dungeon and Kingsfall, Crota's End, and Garden of Salvation raids for free. So there is no reason to buy anything until you at least play through some of those offerings and see if you enjoy the game. From there, if you want to access more campaigns, dungeons, raids, and exotics, you can purchase The Legacy Collection and/or The Final Shape. Occasionally they'll do free weekends where some of the paid content is available to try for a limited time for everyone and I think PS+ gave away some of the expansions last year, so maybe you're thinking of that?

Not every game is for everybody. I didn't play at release but i had some fun with it 3 years post launch.

If you're looking for explanations on why campaigns were removed, you'll need to watch another video. This Buyer's Guide is simply meant to briefly explain what comes with each content pack, give a list and sale price, and give my opinion on whether I think it's worth picking up if you enjoy Destiny 2.

So you don't need to buy anything. While the new player experience is still not great, you can play the New Light, Shadowkeep, and Beyond Light campaigns for free. You also have access to the Prophecy dungeon for free, which lets you see if you even like dungeons before you consider buying more of them. The Crota's End, Kingsfall, and Vault of Glass raids are also free, along with strikes, pvp, and gambit. So you can basically get a taste of everything without ever spending any money on the game. From there, if you enjoy it, the best options to expand your content in my opinion, is picking up the Legacy Collection on sale which will get you all of the past content for about $25 or picking up the newest expansion The Final Shape. The dungeons are completely optional and I only recommend them if you actually enjoy and run dungeons, because according to stats, roughly only 5% of players are doing dungeons. So you only have to "buy all the expansions plus the dungeons that are from those expansions" if you're worried about having literally everything. If all you're looking to do is try the game out, you can do that for free and slowly build up your collection if you enjoy it by getting stuff on sale.

@YourFNGamers ahh I see, good to know, I already bought the witch queen when it came out but didn't played but it was a bit overwhelming idk why it give me the optionto skip the tutorial lmao so i was lost af( maybe i did a long time ago and dont remember), now I did it and I feel like I understand the game a little more so am ready. I really like the bit I tried in the tutorial, will play the witch queen and if I like it I will buy the final shape which is what I truly want to play as I heard it's amazing, I might also get the dungeons etc since am an mmo player I love raids and dungeons btw whats the difference between those? I might buy the legacy collection too, good to know there are some raids and dungeons that are free. Still kinda crazy they don't come with the expansion like most mmos

Yeah, the new player on boarding is overwhelming and scattered, though to be fair, I think that is a problem with most MMO like games, haha. Yeah, I think playing through The Witch Queen and seeing how you like it will be a good baseline to see if you are enjoying the main gameplay loop! That's a good question about dungeons vs raids. Dungeons are essentially 3 person mini raids, usually with some simpler mechanics and a run is typically shorter. The Raids are 6 person, longer experiences where there are usually multiple roles and mechanics in each fight to learn and generally require much more teamwork. The naming convention is a little weird if you're coming from something like WoW, because what WoW calls dungeons are essentially the Strikes in Destiny 2 and those are included with the expansion.

I think this is a great point and I think what Andrew was getting at. Slang is a perfect way to describe it. Genres seem to have shifted more and more into slang to describe a couple of features, like art style or dropping your currency when you die and having to go retrieve it. And that makes it a bit jumbled and confusing when discussing games using genres because it feels like everyone is working off of slightly different definitions.

I haven't watched the episode yet but in regards to this I listen to another podcast (Game & Gig) and they've made an indie rubric that might be worth a shot (it's in their discord though not on their channel to my knowledge)

Hey, this is a great question! So how you decide to play through it depends on what you are looking for and enjoy about the game. If you are trying to have the most complete story experience, playing through the campaigns in order (Shadowkeep -> Beyond Light -> The Witch Queen -> Lightfall -> The Final Shape -> Episode 1: Echoes). I believe you can find the start of Shadowkeep on the Moon, but you might have to pick up the quest from the kiosk by the mailbox in The Tower after which you should be able to mark it in your quest log and get directions from there. Beyond Light starts on Europa; The Witch Queen in Savathuun's Throne World, and Lightfall on Neptune. The Timeline quests are designed to be a quick catch up for some of the past events that are no longer in the game, so they are worth doing if you're interested in some of that. Now I will say that a lot of the story from the first few years has been removed from the game and is just not available and a lot of the story that has happened since then occurred in seasonal storylines that are also no longer available, so you'll probably want to watch a youtuber like My Name Is Byf to help you catch up on it all. If you're just looking to have fun and enjoy the game, then I'd say doing The Final Shape campaign might be the way to go, as I think it's an excellent one and adds a ton of fun stuff to the game between the new subclass and the after campaign activities. Beyond Light and Lightfall are also worth doing to unlock their subclasses. But really, just kind of following the fun wherever it takes you isn't a bad time either. Hope this helps!

I'm not entirely sure where it saves, but I know choosing the solo setting allows you to quit and pick right back up where you left off.

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@@YourFNGamers why?

I'm not entirely sure how they decide when to put it on sale beyond just noting that it's usually on sale during the big seasonal sales and whenever a new episode comes out. If it's not on sale now, it'll likely be on sale sometime during the next couple of months. Usually these sales give you a week or two opportunity to scoop it up for cheap.

​@@YourFNGamersok thank you so much

Glad to hear that! Thanks!

Thanks! Hope you enjoy it!

Hitman World of Assassination Part One is just the content from the first Hitman game. So the first 3rd of World of Assassination.

For sure, the stuff they offer for free has gotten so much better after The Final Shape, since you've essentially got 3 campaigns to play through! As someone who has been here from the beginning, Destiny 1 did have a more traditional way of expanding the game, which I do miss, though I do still enjoy Destiny 2 now. I also think a lot of people forget that there were a ton of complaints from the vocal minority about Destiny 1 and the endgame there and it was having a lot of struggles until The Taken King expansion came out and revitalized it. We look back now with rose colored glasses and remember the good way more than the bad, but I think we're missing a time and place more than that game.

As far as I know, you have to complete the campaigns on each character. Now that said, you don't have to do every campaign. I believe the Stasis subclass unlocks throughout the Beyond Light campaign and the Strand subclass unlocks throughout Lightfall's, so you'll probably want to do at least those. If I'm remembering correctly, I think they made fully unlocking the subclasses a quicker experience once you've done it on a character though.

Wow, $2.99 sounds like a good deal!

@@YourFNGamers I'm realizing it's just the part one thing though. I've never played any of these games I thought for that cheap maybe but I'll probably just skip it

Ahh, yeah, Part One is just a couple of levels I believe, basically a paid demo

Not every exotic is going to be meta, but there are definitely ones that still see a lot of use that are tied to the older content. Unless you're trying to do the raids on the highest difficulty, you can get away with using just about any exotic that you find fun.

Yeah, it's a bummer for sure

Good question! So The Legacy Collection comes with Forsaken, Shadowkeep, Beyond Light, The Witch Queen, Lightfall, and The 30th Anniversary Pack and has been on sale for $25. If you can find all of those individually for at or around that price, then sure, buying them that way isn't too big of a deal. But if they are more than that, I'd probably recommend waiting until it goes on sale again. Either way, the Witch Queen and Lightfall dungeon keys are separate from the Legacy Collection or buying those expansions individually, so to get those you'll need to shell out $20 each in Bungie's in game store. I'd personally recommend trying out the Prophecy dungeon you have access to for free or Pit of Heresy, Shattered Throne, and Grasp of Avarice that come with some of the older expansions/Legacy Collection before paying for the dungeon keys, just to make sure you even want to do dungeons.

@@YourFNGamers Damn i see, thanks for the answer. Cheers!

Yes, with the Legacy Collection you get access to all raids except the one that comes with The Final Shape

Nice! I've not personally used that site, but I know it's always being recommended!

good 2 know

Yes, with the release of The Final Shape, the stasis subclass and the Beyond Light Campaign were made free to all players!

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