Fun episode guys! I think Cal’s perspective is definitely not a bad one. The gods dying and the whole energy cannot be created nor destroyed goes along with something I’ve been thinking about for a while. If the gods need the humans for the power that comes from their worship then it almost makes sense that if there is not a vessel it creates a vacuum. This vacuum draws in someone that exemplifies the thoughts and feelings the mortals have towards creation, destruction, nature or what have you and the worship powers the person that was drawing near to that power or energy. Who knows though. I could see Callen or Alondros doing a Loki season 2 ending this season for sure. I feel like Vasalis would make the sacrifice too because he doesn’t have a lot of attachments in the mortal world now. Can’t wait to see what happens next!

Does Zane have a happy backstoried character? Or even an idea for a happy backstory? I think Theseus would literally insta kill Vaselis if they tell him and no matter what I don’t think it would make a difference in Theseus’s further choices. I’ve always wondered how long Zane knew about Vaselis’s backstory! Thanks for asking and answering that question! I do think that lots of the gods, if not all except for Krufix and maybe Klothis, have had different versions of themselves come before now through the passing on of mantles. Because it’s so true that the gods don’t seem TOO terribly concerned that they’re being killed off. Jefferson really reaaaally loved the whole time difference thing…they caught onto him. I think Calen’s visions are so focused on Theseus because that’s their whole goal of what they’re doing. They’re trying to stop Theseus. So Calen’s visions are like “updating” him on what Theseus is doing. Man that ending that they talked about how Alondros is like the last one, holy crap that would be insane! I agree with Zane that if anyone doesn’t make it out of the underworld Alondros is the most likely. But I actually think they’re all going to make it out. I think Erebos believes so much that no matter what he will have the heroes in his realm when they die that he will kind of just let them leave. I don’t know if he’ll let them take Adelphos very easy so they might have to make the deal around him in order to get him out, but I really think that he’ll just let them leave. Because they’ll die eventually and be under his power, or so he thinks? If they become gods then they won’t be under his power and he’d probably hate them forever. As far as after that I have no idea what could happen 😬

I’m going to guess Signs for that movie reference. Been a hot minute since I’ve seen it though. I loved the moment that Alandros got with his father very touching. It was sad that Vasalis couldn’t get a moment like that with Sophia. Truly sad that she is a shell of a person. That thing that came out of the wheat field was basically an alien anyway so I think the party was right 😂 Vasalis’s first thought to burn the thing was awesome 😂 Bold of Tyson to assume that we actually play D&D. I blame my program for not playing as much anymore, but I digress. I would prefer to play in person!

So now I’m wondering if Sophia wanted to forget her life and that’s why she didn’t really snap out of the fog. Where Alondros’s dad wanted to remember his life so once he was snapped out it it came back to him. Signs! What a good movie 😂 I also feel like a discus would hurt way more then a wooden bat. Jefferson saying “yeah that’s tough” to Tyson and then immediately moving on was so funny 😂 That thing is nightmare fuel for reals! I think that might be the scariest thing they ever fought so far, which is wild, but it was super creepy and holy crap the damage it would do! Alondros with the disintegration was SO COOL!!! Especially since I feel like both the gods he has, obviously the Hephaestus one (can’t remember his name 😅), but even Affara, are both like creation and life and so it was so cool seeing him wield the power of the exact opposite. Man those time flashes are crazy. And the fact that Theseus can see Calen is kinda wild. Like can other people see Calen too or is it just Theseus? And I totally think Theseus is heading out for Nilea dang it.

Fantastic episode guys! Another god dead... Here we go again! This is such a wild campaign. My bet is on this goddess going to Vasilis, as Thalassa is so strongly tied to Thassa, and I don't know how the two would interfere. That said, with Thassa being neutral, she may specifically want Thalassa to make that space, much in the same way crufix did. Tyson's theory on Calan's ability is really interesting. If it's right, does that mean that Calan could potentially view what Theseos's plans are? Though with Theseos being able to somehow see Calan when he does view these things, he may have planned for that. I wonder if Calan can fully interact with The world when he is viewing it that way. That Theseos said about the timeline for Calan's beliefs changing is so interesting! And Calan's final bit about Theseos still being his friend was so sweet. I think after talking with Baxor, he realizes how much he has to lose if he lets Theseos go. I might be wrong though. Anyway, thanks for a great episode! ❤

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Haha! The first retcon! 😂 I’m happy that the gang thought that the comment with Vasalis was funny. Sofia was so sad. She was so vibrant and full of life. It’s sad that she became uninspired after everything with Theseus went down. Super sad end to that story. Sofia made me think she would go to Illysia because she died in child birth like a warrior. That was so sad to see Alondros’s dad! I wasn’t expecting that. Phylius… idk this is FINE-lius?

When Shay said she was nervous about getting stuck in something I immediately was like, “yep…that will happen now. They’re gonna get stuck in the endless cycle.” I KNEW Sophia would be there! I wanted to be wrong so bad because she deserves better, but I freakin knew it. I’m glad Vasilis got to say what he wanted to to Sophia, but so sad. Dude…I swear if Erebus destroyed the wall 😤 But it could be like what Zane said that the wall became uninspired. Or dang the theory Connor had with the creatures being released is a wild thought! I should’ve known though that it was part of the endless cycle of this horrible place. 25% chance of hitting the good one…was he talking about the mires of misery? Because he didn’t seem too keen on ilyseum 😂 Dang it! That’s so sad Alondros’s father is there too! And that’s interesting there isn’t many Satyrs there, but of course his dad is there ☹️ I agree I would much rather be in Narino because so far all the other options are horrendous!

This place is so depressing! Seeing Sofia almost had me in tears! And just leaving us on Alandros's father! This whole underworld thing is heartbreaking! When you first came down, I was thinking "they'll go down, fight a few guardians, find Adelphos, and come back." Instead, we are meeting every dead NPC we had any attachment to, and some we didn't but have come to love anyway. Multiple Gods are dead, their spirits seem to be residing in our heroes, and they have a bargain with another god to deal with. This blows my mind more and more every episode. You guys are awesome. Thanks for another amazing episode ❤

Wow. This is the level 2 players finding vecna relics level craziness 😂. Nicely handled time travel... 🧹🧹 Definitely appreciate the absolute lack of metagaming, it led to some great situations. I haven't played enough to have a crazy magic item experience. I'm still relatively early in my first campaign, and we started at level one, so I am just about to hit level 4, and haven't yet found any magic items. Thanks for the reminder to be careful with time travel. Hoping to DM eventually, maybe soon, and can always use those tips that they don't mention in the DMG. Thanks for another great episode!

Jeff as a player is chaotic and unhinged! If I don’t know what it is… I do it anyway! I love the not meta-ness of it though. Hats off to you Jefferson. Sonorus I want to say technically only amplifies the caster’s voice at least that’s what we’ve seen in The Goblet of Fire from Ludo Bagman. I did a little bit of reading and it looks like the time turner can take someone back in time up to 5 hours at a time, one hour per turn. I dislike the Harry Potter time travel because it makes a loop like effect. The time travel could potentially make three branches. Branch one there is a time line where the time travelers don’t exist anymore. Branch two the branch you are creating by changing things. Branch three if anyone else were to interfere or if one thing doesn’t go according to plan you make a whole new time line especially with the four or five different ones that the party created.

This is the worst set of characters to find this many powerful magic items 😂 And that’s so sweet of them to free Mug…even if it was with a bloody cloak. Poor poor Mug! What a good little house elf 😢 I can’t remember a time where we completely derailed the campaign, but one of my characters purchased a bag of tricks and my DM hated it so bad because I would use it practically every encounter. Don’t let Jefferson play with backwards time travel again 😂 I was definitely not expecting that guy to actually be Salazar Slytherin! Crazy twist! Super fun one shot! Loved it!

That was one crazy session! Time travel is almost always messy in media. I can’t believe that you guys managed to get out of that sticky situation. It was absolutely hilarious! And I hope to see more one shots with Connor and maybe even a full campaign one day.

Yeah! Vasilis's double crit was epic, absolutely saving the day!

That’s literally how the last encounter went down in Heroes of Theros. We were fighting some giant skeleton monsters and then Vasilis raged and 2 rounds later there was nothing left for the rest of us.

Tell us your best TPK moment!⚔️

Always love the accents guys! They bring a fun dynamic. The fight right off the bat is a wild way to start 😂 I think Jefferson had some pent up aggression that he needed to get out. I think the system you guys are using is super cool. I like how the spells are split up by year. Not surprised the Ravenclaw is dead, very surprised at the random guys, very surprised they got in the door already not going to lie. Can’t wait for the next part!

Omg thank god for you, you just cleared up a plothole in my campaign i needed to figure out

I think that's the plot of Drakengard 2

If I want to shock the players with just how much cliche I made the campaign this is awesome

Bonus points if you drop little hints along the way about this. Like a very, VERY old book that speaks of unimaginable evil, locked away by -BBEG's name, or maybe even their predecessor, but it cant be deciphered because its old-. Or maybe when they sneak into BBEG's, you let them wander around they find a room filled with stuffy thats eluding to this ancient evil being locked away.

I've had this idea ready for a while. It allows you to use a lot of tropes in a new way. He leaves the party alive each time because he's not out to kill them, just stop them from interfering. Heck, he might aid or save the party from unrelated stuff knowing the good they are trying to do, even be their benefactor in disguise to try and hold them back for a second twist.

Sounds like the end of the first mistborn book by Brandon Sanderson

Bro this is just the plot of guren logon lol

Plot twist. The party is from a single region who absolutely hate the BBEG, but he is "beloved" everywhere else. Being that the only thing they have ever been around, they hear the stories of how BBEG destroyed their kingdom and essentially oppressed them. However their region was ruled by a tyrant who was originally bent on taking over the continent and was defeated by BBEG. Their region is oppressed because of the regime being stuck on fighting a "war" that has long since ended, but dont have the resources to expand beyond their territory. So BBEG essentially leaves the region alone so long as it doesnt cause anymore trouble. Party goes on to defeat BBEG, while along the way getting a misinformed idea that BBEG has somehow brainwashed an entire continent to be content with his rule. The party thinks it is their duty to kill BBEG and save everyone from his mind control. When they succeed, they find out he wasnt mind controlling anyone and was a hero to everyone, and the party becomes the new BBEG.

Mistborn!!! Adapting it for home session, I would have players watch as something (orb of light, mist, etc.) flies out of the body and away. This is some sort of evil symbiote or parasite-like being, and the bbeg had managed to bargain with it/otherwise restrict it's abilities by following this path of destruction, or something similar. The solution may involve the need for balance between existence of good and evil, splitting up the inhabitation between multiple hosts, or whatever wacky thing players come up with.

This is just fable 3.

Tell us how you have shocked your dnd players or how your dm has shocked your group!!

Man what a way to start. Fighting each other! Enemies to friends. “Which is crazy because you’re the fat one” 😂 I think Emeric really won the lottery in his family getting the flexibility. This whole thing was so good! So funny and so much fun! 😂 And holy crap I was NOT expecting those two guys to be crazy like that! I was totally thinking they were guards at Gringotts! I’m excited to see how this ends!

This is so fun! I can't wait for part 2! I love seeing you use new systems, and this is wonderful! So easy to pick up. Connor, it is so fun to see you GM again! Wonderful job! This is a great one-shot. I love seeing you all go in and start taking initiative for consent for your characters. It makes it super fun to see the way that can push along the narrative. It also helps us as an audience get to know your characters a bit better. Thanks for another great episode!

This is a safe for work podcast. Conner immediately, “Skinny Dipping!” Sent me. Alondros running out of soap! These are dark days indeed. Also I think it was good he got to clean off before receiving the essence of a god! Wild episode. Now all we need is Vasalis and Thelossa and the party will be all sorts of tricked out. I’ll have to workshop a cool title for Alondros.

Especially after you haven’t played for a while, then it really hits hard!

Yep... The PGDND ones are always hilarious to watch. Watching y'all's reactions is great. And your season one recap was this on steroids!

That was really cool that Alondros’s magic changed a bit after taking on the essence of Perphorous! Literally Calen is going to loose ALL his strength by the end of the campaign 😂😬 This poor creature just literally being rolled around on the ground and every time he gets back up he gets knocked down again 😂 I have the literal worst memory and I can only think of the fights that took WAY longer than they should have!

Seeing the growth that Vasalis goes through is awesome. Also the wild amounts of damage that he can do was super fun to watch. I think Calen is a real one for freaking out after meeting any of the gods. Genuine reaction that I think more people would have. I can imagine little pieces of bone flying out from the party for weeks 😂

Oh the technical issues. Sigh. I'm glad they didn't come til later though. That was a crazy fight! Barbarians are amazing, and critting twice! Face to face with the god of death, and Calan calmly offers him a deal! That was a bit insane, I was holding my breath through the whole thing!

Ahhh! Definitely been waiting for a moment for Calan and Thalassa! That was so perfectly awkward and sweet. And Alandros's "I'm happy you are excited." Was hilarious! The soap! A shopping trip is in order as soon as they get back to the mortal realm. Oh my gosh. Theseus really is killing the other gods! That is insane. I am so curious about how Adelphos will respond to this. Also, how does Theseus get to them? It seems like the gods would reside on their own plane, not necessarily accessible to mortals, but maybe there are entrances like there are for the underworld. Alandros has a god spirit too!? This gets crazier by the minute! Where is this going? Jefferson, what is going on in that crazy head of yours? Arabus! Don't leave us hanging on this one! Need next episode sooner! Halloween one-shot?...

Hey, great episode! So much interesting RP! Been a crazy week, so not much else to say, but thank you for putting a smile on my face every week 💖 Ps: no major retcons I can think of other than weapon reworks.

“We are merfolk” 😂😂😂 That’s my level of flirtation as well 😂 So cute though!!! Finally!!! And so many good pop culture references right after too 😂 Alondros straight up more excited about taking a bath than anything else that has ever happened 😂 Super cool idea to bathe in the ocean of Narino though! And the soap speech…very fitting. After Calen’s second vision/dream I thought the fallen object was maybe Purphorus. Unfortunately the thought was correct. Two gods dead in the span of a couple of episodes…not a good track record. But hey the group is collecting god essences snd getting unknown power so that’s pretty wild! Meeting two gods in one episode! That’s crazy!!! I’m a little scared what Erebos is going to do.

At first I thinking that there wasn’t anything too major that has been retconned, but the episode changed my mind when Vasalis became the champion of mogus 😂 Lots of good role play! Loved the backstory! I think Calen being the representative of the god of what is and the god of what could be goes super hard. Can’t wait for the next episode!

The party is safe they only roll 6 on the dice.

Yeah... My dice hate me tying knots. Every time that I try, I roll like a 2 or 3. That said, I found a solution. My wonderful DM will let me use mending to fuse two ends of a rope together. No more knots!

Literally! The dice never cooperate 😂

I wonder if Krufix is “pulling away” from Calen to basically give Klothis room as she is using Calen as her vessel and Krufix doesn’t want to intervene with that transfer of power or something. Vasilis taking watch as the last stage of “oh look a strawberry” 😂 Anyone related to Apalonia is probably just awful 😂 because Apalonia is the WORST! But maybe Agatha was taken by a god? I was suspicious that Vasilis was initially the one that went down to the den of Mogis, but I couldn’t make it make sense so I dismissed it! I should’ve stuck with my first thought! I mean…he changed his mind 1:48:41 Shay putting her hood up and then freakin Connor “putting his hood up” 😂 But legitimately the two dads are literally horrible. Why does Vasilis’s dad hate Theseus so much? And why does Proteus go along with it? I feel so sad for Vasilis because he made a mistake and then someone he trusted used it to hurt his friend. Vasilis didn’t do a practically irreversible wrong, the two dads did!

Every…single…time

It’s either this or you roll a natural 20 on a nature check 😂

In episode 48 of season one Alandros bails Thelossa, Calan, and Theseus out of jail. 500, 500, and 2000 gold! Cal ended up paying Alandros back for most of the bill. Calan also bought super rare flowers for a the prom-like ask out to the ball before the games. So it makes sense that cal is broke and Alandros has a lot of money. The mind things!!! Zane can’t get away from the losing the memory things. 3/3 sons of Akros have daddy issues. Interesting statistic. We found one thing that Alandros can’t do! Wild! I was very impressed with the amount of restraint and forgiveness the party gave Vasalis especially after one of them was attacked. They grow up so quickly. I felt so bad for Jeff with the mic cutting out! That must have been frustrating! I hope it works out ok next episode and everything can go smoothly!

The way Jefferson says, “you’re about to have a long rest.” Made me instantly think he was going to sabotage their long rest…and then what do you know! The underworld has not been kind, especially to Vasilis. The inverse of 3 minutes of playtime. Straight up Proteus and Vasilis’s dad used Vasilis as a puppet and then made him forget because Vasilis didn’t want to do what they made him do. And maybe Proteus didn’t know Vasilis didn’t do it of his own free will and doesn’t know his memory has been blocked. They need to talk to Proteus and get the entire run down of what actually happened. Wait what?! Was that like Klothis’s body that fell from the sky? What the heck?! I’m dying for next week!!!

Been a minute since I’ve been able to make a comment, but I just wanted to say that as an unofficial continuity team member go rewatch the episode where the party first makes it to Aganos and there will be some answers for you. In the future though I will take bribes from the DM and party to gaslight on what happened during the episodes. One of my favorite moments was when Proteus was like ah yes I love both my sons equally Adelphos and *squints at smudged ink on hand* Titus… Good few episodes I do plan on going back and commenting! I love all the laughs and how much fun you guys have as friends. It was refreshing to get one of Zane’s characters to spill some back story! Keep that man talking! I love the Ner’Know! I was dead. Alondros never taking a hit, but almost running out of spell slots is so real with casters though! So funny 😂

Answers! Finally! I feel like I should have guessed that vasilis's memory had been tampered with after his interaction with Proteus, but what a cool twist! Also... More symbol stuff! Man, what an episode! Thanks guys!❤