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@grandeurso1640
@grandeurso1640 5 күн бұрын
Great analysis! Keep up with the videos, i'm discovering many inspiring pieces of art with this channel. The quality of your work is extraordinary! Wishing you the best! :)
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 4 күн бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate the kind words. I enjoyed making this one, and hope it brings more attention to Nathaniel Dorsky’s work.
@Tyrell_Corp2019
@Tyrell_Corp2019 9 күн бұрын
Nice video. I've always felt that Fellini's works a more like poetry than prose. No plot point. Nothing predictable. His films are universal experiences meant to be viewed no matter the generation. They are never the same experience no matter how many times we view them. It's sad that this aesthetic has all but been forgotten.
@MrInterestingthings
@MrInterestingthings 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful explanation of the film . I was in love with itssurface beauty didn't quite get the complacency and mindless , listless non-effort of these commonhuman beings . The irony of the gypsy bernhard's rant and the devastating environment of the horsemen and hisdaughter ! Habitual acceptance just living repetitiously in life versus .vitally alive acting choices with self-actualized achievement . "Complacent with our own exploitation and going through the motions in life and not being really alive !
@domenicozauber206
@domenicozauber206 2 ай бұрын
10:41 - I think that this sequence is inspired by De Chirico, it is the same type of aesthetic (the typical painter's empty square) and refers precisely to the concept of emptiness, classic in De Chirico, which in this film becomes existential and sentimental emptiness.
@Larkinchance
@Larkinchance 2 ай бұрын
Film is literature. Cinematography, editing and acting is poetry.
@limbitsafe6620
@limbitsafe6620 3 ай бұрын
Fellini feels somewhat rotten today, it's not his fault. When people obsess over an artist their work becomes something perverse as everyone attempts to find meaning in every turn. Many people like Fellini to fit in more than actually admire is true work.
@loge10
@loge10 3 ай бұрын
I'm with the rest of these positive comments. Very well done and thoughtful essay on a film that has deeply affected me. I think you nailed it in how our current circumstances have put many of us (most of us?) in the state of the characters of this film - even those of affluence.
@hughiedavies6069
@hughiedavies6069 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it is claustrophobic and intense 👍
@Endymion766
@Endymion766 4 ай бұрын
Interesting interpretation. I didn't get any of that from the movie, myself. My general feeling that it's a deconstruction of Thus Spoke Zarathustra. We see a horse and man that have both worked hard their entire lives to self-actualize and all they have to show for it is a decrepit farm house. At some point the engine of passion seizes and refuses to start again. Then what? Well then the story pretty much comes to an end, not with a bang but with a dim light and barely audible whimper. So would you like to eternally return to throwing yourself into endless grind just to end up with barely anything to show for it? Or would it maybe be better to slack off and have fun once in a while at the expense of self improvement? If you knew that all your self improvement was barely going to mount to anything, would you even bother? I probably wouldn't. I think that's why Nietzsche said his last words. Maybe he realized his own argument undoes itself and that humans dont' have much in the way of free will after all. I think it's good to try and see what one can do for himself, but sacrificing oneself for some lofty idea of self-improvement, gets the opposite result. I say try hard, but give up shortly if the try doesn't yield results. And if nothing is giving results, then give up everything, and live a gentle peaceful life.
@vld-mr
@vld-mr 5 ай бұрын
It was a well-made analysis! Thanks!
@jcccheung
@jcccheung 6 ай бұрын
great video essay Do you have any thoughts about unforeseen consequences of montage's distortion, misrepresentation of the thing captured in reality? In the first part of the video you talked about how the device of montage makes something slow and painstaking, into something anew, one that is fast-paced and energetic. This change might not be embraced by some hobby 'purists'. Is there something damaging when we make a task that's personal and within the private sphere so 'easily consumable' through cinematic devices? (I think about this question a lot as many reviews of queer films always speak about 'right or wrong' representation in media).
@akpakp369
@akpakp369 7 ай бұрын
What a beautiful Movie 🎥🎥🎥😍
@yung_marion_brown
@yung_marion_brown 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, this is a truly clear analysis. I've been watching a lot of his films recently and this has helped me unlock a way of structuring analysis of them that has been evading me. I think one of the biggest mistakes made by critics of this kind of film is accusing the director of just trying to make the characters and settings look "cool" - "cool" meaning essentially well dressed, beautiful and difficult to read. In fact, just like real live "cool people", the difficulty to read them is often a reflection of their own confusion (or lack of ideaology), and the power they have (whether cultural or financial) only magnifies this confusion, because their power functions in very clear ways, regardless of whether they (or we) have an idealogical lens through which to view it. Directors like Antonioni use this bourgeoisie as subjects because they are the best way of showing the contradictions of modern western culture imo.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, I completely agree with your analysis. It’s interesting, I was reading an interview from some rich person recently (can’t remember who) and they said they only realized how bored they were once they became rich. Once they stopped having to worry about having their needs met, they could see how empty their life is. I think that’s exactly what these characters are experiencing. They have everything, but they’re miserable for it. They have no goals or motivations in life outside of animal desires. It’s a very acute summary of the postmodern problem.
@yusufyusuf7913
@yusufyusuf7913 7 ай бұрын
I like the fact that you used "werckmeister harmonies " sound music which is one of bela tarr films like the turin horse is
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 7 ай бұрын
Thanks! I thought the music fit the video well
@yusufyusuf7913
@yusufyusuf7913 6 ай бұрын
​@@themovementimageyes all bela tarr films are one artistical paint , Watching a paint dries, his films has poetry inside them, they stay with as long enough to actually remind the whole film in your mind it's sticks , like satantango it never got out of my head and i consider this masterpiece to be the greatest achievement in all the history of art it's unforgettable either you liked it or not , and werckmeister harmonies ahh it's a poem and a great message to the world with its stricking cinematography and acting and great scens and dialogues and symbolism and......
@justshoby3374
@justshoby3374 8 ай бұрын
A genius analysis, and a fresh beautiful perspective 👌 💎
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the kind words
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 8 ай бұрын
Yes I know... but Antonioni will NEVER make me believe that someone who looks like Monica Vitti and lives in Italy in the early 60's could not SOMEHOW find a little joy in life.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha this actually made me laugh. A very good point.
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 8 ай бұрын
@@themovementimage Its like Pauline Kael's take on the party at the end of La Dolce Vita. "Has this man ever had fun at a party???"
@thanasisKrispis
@thanasisKrispis 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤thank you
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
@thanasisKrispis
@thanasisKrispis 8 ай бұрын
@@themovementimage it’s my pleasure, thank you
@Rezd-Out
@Rezd-Out 9 ай бұрын
It’s always the liberals that hurt the black community. Even today with the whole “holding a black person accountable is racist”. How can anyone say that that isn’t racist? They’re saying they’re natural born criminals. It’s wrong, and it’s racist. We are ALL responsible for our choices. Colour doesn’t ensure financial stability. Colour should never be an excuse. Read a history book, and then read a psych book. I’m sure you’ll see how putting people on a colour chart will only cause problems for all involved.
@santidal
@santidal 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis! Thanks!
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@mlunaID
@mlunaID 10 ай бұрын
This was beautiful and thoughtfully produced. Thank you.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@seanc7681
@seanc7681 11 ай бұрын
Another good one- I happened to watch this movie and read The Joyful Science this summer, but never explicitly made the connection between Nietzsche’s eternal return and the film…I was thinking of it in terms of different philosophers, like Ernest Becker and Camus. Thanks!
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was of use to you. Thanks for the kind words!
@seanc7681
@seanc7681 11 ай бұрын
I’m reading “I Fellini”, and this paired well with it. I’ve gotta go watch “La Strada” again now… Well analyzed, and well edited!
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 8 ай бұрын
Oh wow, I gotta read that book too. Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the video!
@ajaxfilms
@ajaxfilms 11 ай бұрын
Great video...great director, and actress.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words!
@kaieclacher-chopra2257
@kaieclacher-chopra2257 11 ай бұрын
Great vid, really useful, thanks 😊
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 11 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words
@65g4
@65g4 Жыл бұрын
Great video man well done ive been studying Fellini and writing about him for a writing project im doing. I love La Strada and Nights of Cabiria i need to see the first film you mentioned thanks
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your nice comment! Hope you enjoy those movies
@trtrsqr4666
@trtrsqr4666 Жыл бұрын
Really good insights, thank you!
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words
@MrGreen-ci2mm
@MrGreen-ci2mm Жыл бұрын
It's pronounced JEL SO MINA and Zampano is pronounced ZAM PA NO. How could you mess it up ? it's easy lol 😂
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Cool! Thanks for the hand. I’ll get it right next time
@niceprincesslucky
@niceprincesslucky Жыл бұрын
Wow this has been the best film analysis I’ve watch, not only about Antonioni’s films but in general. Thank you so much! It was hugely clarifying
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Aw I really appreciate your kind words! So glad you enjoyed the video
@ferouihamza
@ferouihamza Жыл бұрын
great analysis man, you deserve way more subscribers.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Aw thanks! Appreciate the kind words.
@steveanacorteswa3979
@steveanacorteswa3979 Жыл бұрын
Wow, great essay, we are driving to the edge right now, our own government beating us down so that we lose whats left of being human, of dreams, now just pin cushions and worthless eaters to the elite, people need to wake up, remember life has a point, and if your point involves God or not is up to you, I have a gun near my bed, don't know if it would help if someone broke in but I sleep better at night so it stays. Dumbo had a feather.
@DavidNeedToKnow
@DavidNeedToKnow Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!:) In my opinion all Fellini movies are great. Did you also watch The Swindlers? It would fit in this video as well.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
I have not! I hadn’t even heard of it to be honest. Have added it to my watchlist tho, it looks great. Thanks for the recommendation and kind words!
@asapfilms2519
@asapfilms2519 Жыл бұрын
I have been studying Vedic philosophy. Time and Space are different for different beings. We are not the center of the universe. But time and space creates that illusion. Our entire understanding of our universe is based on our experience of time and space. But what is time and what is space. Light was earlier thought of as a particle then new research shows that light is a wave also. Science just keeps going around in circles. Time and space are still a mystery for science. The other problem with human beings is that we cannot differentiate between truth and lies. We can only differentiate between what we believe and what we don’t want to. And that is why we are always trapped in a limited understanding of our universe. All our technology are only extensions of our senses. Translating a world that we cannot see here or feel into something that we can. The telescope is an extension of the eyes. It translates invisible thing to visible things. But its not the real thing. It is a perspective that has been changed to suit our senses. Man is a prisoner of his senses. Tarr just like Rohtko has drawn an empty canvas on an empty canvas without drawing an empty canvas. That is why there can be a million different interpretations of it. Therefore every interpretation of the film will like the interpretation of this universe. Limited to our own understanding of our own self.
@ScorpionFiore
@ScorpionFiore Жыл бұрын
As a long time Tarr lover, thank you for adding some in-depth significance and open a further door into Nietzsche’s world. Tarr films are impressive and moving even just for the aesthetics, and the meaning you can get on your own by watching and feeling them, but explanations, interpretations are always welcome and add more and more value. Of course Tarr’s interview are awesome and his words are a continuum with his film operas. I admit I have to learn a lot from Nietsche’s words and thoughts and this video is a good beginning, thank you very much
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your kind words! Glad the video was helpful for you
@TheSaltydog07
@TheSaltydog07 Жыл бұрын
The life of that family is not much different from the life of that horse, thus the tedium.
@oliverbalogh8234
@oliverbalogh8234 Жыл бұрын
The movie has a much simpler connection to Nietzsche than your explanation. The neighbours monologue is the key. It is a summary of what Nietzsche wrights about in many of his books, notably in "On the Genealogy of Morality". He heavily criticized our 2000 year old christian civilization and its morality and thought ultimately its flawed morality will lead to its demise. These views are what essentially made him upset to a level he stopped talking for the rest of his life. The sight of the beaten horse was only a trigger to insanity. The movie uses the horse, and the cabbie to symbolize Nietzsche' thoughts expressed in his books. According to the bible it took god 6 days to create earth. The movie symbolizes our civilizations existence and demise, condensed into 6 days. The constant wind symbolises the passing time. Just like the rain and paper waste blown by wind in Belas other movies too.
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Жыл бұрын
I didn't know antonioni ran out crying from the outrage his film caused, that's terrible... all artists are indeed forsaken in their time, I wish i could speak directly to Michelangelo Antonioni and tell him just how much I loved his work of art
@niceprincesslucky
@niceprincesslucky Жыл бұрын
All geniuses are misunderstood
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Жыл бұрын
@Bianka Martinez so true😢💕
@AbrasiousProductions
@AbrasiousProductions Жыл бұрын
I watched this magnificent masterpiece in October and it changed me, by every right I should've hated this film, it's very slow, quiet and mysterious but it's those very reasons for why I'm so fascinated by it, this film is everything Breathless (1960) should've been, the characters seem shallow but they're deeply nuanced and captivating, the perfect way to describe this film is watching the sunrise, it's quiet, still but beautiful and alluring the film fills you with such a considerable amount of despair yet it's an oddly inviting coldness, this film has so many layers it would be impossible to describe every reason I adore this cinematic treasure, in fact the notion of reviewing this is intimidating because it's so golden and so perfect I couldn't possibly summate just how purely elegant, poignant and evocative this film is
@Waferdicing
@Waferdicing Жыл бұрын
💖❤️💟💗
@ItsTorben
@ItsTorben Жыл бұрын
Just recently found your Channel because of your video about A Turin Horse which I really liked. Glad to see you uploaded something new. This film is still on my watchlist. Hope to see more from you!
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Slowly but surely I churn out content. Appreciate your support and the kind words
@Mike_v_E
@Mike_v_E Жыл бұрын
Great video about one of my favorite directors
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Appreciate the kind words
@rob3rtlaw
@rob3rtlaw Жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, thanks for putting the effort and thought in to make it
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your kind words
@ThinkTwice2222
@ThinkTwice2222 Жыл бұрын
White privilege doesn't exist... The Guardian is shill garbage funded by true evil. Btw I'm a Proud Black man from Alabama that came from nothing and achieved the amazing life I have once I realized the left is way worse than any of the racist I grew up with in AL. Please stop
@tanramazan
@tanramazan Жыл бұрын
Lütfen Türkçe altyazı seçeneğini de ekler misiniz ?
@tylerbugh1
@tylerbugh1 Жыл бұрын
This is kinda way off, though it can be seen as a push for us to stop living a mundane life...the eternal return wasnt a thought experiment like so many these days assume..it was a new answer, the "core principle" of his teaching...it was, in the wake of God's death, a new higher standard upon which to reevaluate all of our values and a way of justifying everything whatsoever, whether that fills one with pain joy ecstacy transgression etc...this was one's greatest weight..also he's clearly not an advocate for the doctrine of free will. The whole "the things that eternally recur are choices" is directly opposed to what nietzsche was saying. To most beings, a choice is an impossibility
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Insofar as eternal return is a standard by which we should judge our actions, it is a thought experiment. And the things that eternally recur ARE choices, and Nietzsche says we must take the harder road in these choices if we’re to become who we should strive to be. I am not implying that Nietzsche is an advocate for free will, I’m saying he believes there is a correct choice among those we’re confronted with that affirms our will and-again- allows us to become closer to the self we should strive to be.
@tylerbugh1
@tylerbugh1 Жыл бұрын
The real Turin Horse incident most likely never happened
@Kyarareads
@Kyarareads 7 ай бұрын
Yeah idk i dont think the maker of this video knows a lot about nietzsche and his misdiagnosis of syphilis
@Raghav_the_2
@Raghav_the_2 Жыл бұрын
Seriously most underrated channel... Gonna share this channel as much I can.
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I really appreciate the kind words
@sbasty2321
@sbasty2321 Жыл бұрын
great video, learnt a lot :)
@themovementimage
@themovementimage Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for checking it out!
@gregkerber8266
@gregkerber8266 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. I've never thought about the cinematic underpinnings of build and craft videos. Now you've got me wanting to watch more. Awesome. Now, when do we get a video about Stalker?
@themovementimage
@themovementimage 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Appreciate the kind words.
@markpowell4615
@markpowell4615 2 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with 'eternal return' is that Nietzsche's call to action and wise-decision making (because we'll have to repeatedly relive our lives just as they have been with no changes for all eternity) only works if this life is the first iteration of our many (indeed, infinite) lives. If it isn't (and, statistically, it's unlikely to be), then we cannot act and make decisions to optimise all the lives we'll live because our first life has already determined those lives and we are without free will - will, the very thing Nietzsche seems to revere above all else is something we only have once and never again. And, in any case, how would one know what is will and what is determined?
@Indianpsychonaut
@Indianpsychonaut 2 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the movie is to not watch it & accomplish your goals. The antidote of boredom is change in patterns