Amazing interpretation. Going to play it on my final exam
@JoshuaRupley4 күн бұрын
Great! Thank you. I played it in college too. Are you in music school?
@elizabyte84 күн бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley I'm at a greek conservatoire which in Europe is considered as a colleague degree :) hope one day will upload it too!
@JoshuaRupley4 күн бұрын
@@elizabyte8 great! I studied in Germany and now teach at a German University of Music. I wish you all the best on your exam! Is that a Bachelor?
@elizabyte84 күн бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley you are so kind! I'm glad to receive a warm wish from a professor. Thank you a lot. Yes, it's a bachelor, I can become a teacher at a college but I'm aimed to continue my music journey afterwards and studying for a solo career :) besides that I'm also a university student and study completely different field of science ahaha sort of maths let's say called statistics with a purpose of becoming a data scientist... there's some amount of programming skills.. so again keys... keys of a PC and keys of a piano. Unfortunately I have never been to Germany, but I admire a lot that country
@joshmanfredi24322 ай бұрын
Name of piece?
@JoshuaRupley2 ай бұрын
Hammerklavier Sonata, Op. 106 - III. Adagio con molto sentimento
@user-xt3mi6rl5z2 ай бұрын
Brought me to tears...Thank you!!!
@JoshuaRupley2 ай бұрын
I am so glad to hear that! Now that my broken finger has healed, I'll try to get back to posting more recordings. Don't forget to subscribe to get reminders about future pieces I post!
@BFHPET3 ай бұрын
Cant u get the mic closer to you hard to heat what you say
@JoshuaRupley2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! The piano is so loud, it's true... Even over my mic. I'll try and adjust the setup for my next video. Right now I'm recovering from a broken finger, so it'll be a couple of weeks before the next video comes out!
@BFHPET2 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley its the steinway b 211cm do you think its to loud for home use?
@JoshuaRupley2 ай бұрын
@@BFHPET no, the room is big enough. It has a 5 meter ceiling and 50 square meters of space. It's just me sitting right next to it that makes it difficult with the mic placement! The mic picks up lots of piano sound because, well, it's a big instrument... Maybe I should try figure 8 configuration and move it more in front of my face
@kelly32253 ай бұрын
I too play this sometimes, very deep and comforting piece
@JoshuaRupley2 ай бұрын
Wonderful, isn't it? I sit down in the evening sometimes and just enjoy it. That and "Ich ruf zu dir, Herr" from the same set!
@payaso88953 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video, i'm self-taught struggling with this piece. I often heard that you need pratice very slow but in some parts it doesn't really work for me
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Don't give up! It's pretty subtle things that make all the difference. The hardest part of learning piano technique really is learning to feel what is going on in your body. When a passage feels hard to you - or if you're forcing your way through it, or there are lots of stubborn wrong notes - what is going on? Where are you blocking yourself? Are you in a poor posture? Are you inflexible? And try out as many ideas as you can think of to resolve that problem! It's trial and error, but always with a goal of staying flexible, not working too hard to play!
@karenlouise48223 ай бұрын
So beautifully played, thank you!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I discovered this piece accompanying a high school choir recital and fell in love with it right away. Years later, I ran across the score for piano solo and had to learn it!
@user-ff3ft1db6d3 ай бұрын
I’m not a music buff but I know that the music needs to match my mood for me to really enjoy it. I remember my first experiencing the grosse fugue Op 133- it clicked! For some reason it made real sense to me, something I was not expecting. ( this is as listener not performer of course)
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that! In some ways, I find the Große Fuge a bit easier to understand. It has more of a clear ending, with a real climax and some feeling of resolution. I feel like the Hammerklavier Fugue never really finds that resolution and just gets thinner and thinner before stopping altogether. Or what do you think?
@rmcnabb3 ай бұрын
Can't get in to the HK. I've been playing and listening to Beethoven for over 50 years and this one just leaves me cold. Beethoven wanted to make it "unplayable" by putting a super fast metronome number on it, but for me it's also "unlistenable". It always sounded like one composer wrote a few pages, then mailed it to a friend who picked up the thread and wrote some, then mailed it to a 3rd friend who again picked up on what had been done and wrote his ideas for a few pages, and so on until it was finished. I totally cannot appreciate what he was trying to say and I'm sure the fault is mine but so be it.
@Kjt8533 ай бұрын
I find Scriabin an extremely fascinating composer - even when I don’t quite understand what I’m listening to.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
I do too! This is easy stuff though, very Romantic still... The later works get crazier and crazier but it is incredibly vivid and expressive... I feel like it's just pure expression, hinting at a kind of deep meaning (ecstasy, as Scriabin would put it) which you can't put in words
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
I only really start to deeply connect with his pieces once I play them myself. Before that they are interesting, or challenging, or strangely fascinating, but it makes a big difference to stare at the score and try to get it into your fingers - and your whole body. It's like he's talking to me through the score, which is a strange experience. It feels a lot different than studying a score by, say, Rachmaninoff or Brahms
@ojotut3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I would much rather hear Liszt on his piano. Why Beethoven? I really don't like Beethoven's piano works, though maybe all those horrible thick chords in the bass sound less dreadful on such a tinny piano. These old pianos actually sound pretty bad. I hope they sounded better when they were new!
@dgdoc3 ай бұрын
Really well done Joshua. Surprised more people haven’t had an opportunity to enjoy hearing your Beethoven.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that! I know some more experienced colleagues who were a bit put aback by the artistic license I allow myself sometimes with Beethoven... Caesuras, Fermatas, Rubato etc... But I think this music needs to breathe!
@dgdoc3 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley You're right. Beethoven played on a different type of piano that didn't have the same dynamics of a modern concert grand. His signature of sharp contrasts in dynamics was used to get the attention of the audience. Adding a bit of style through some artistic license with Caesuras, Fermatas, and Rubato is something he'd probably enjoy, despite the "experts" who will debate this forever - and never know for sure. Speaking of experts, they all loved Glenn Gould's recording of #15 even with him humming and singing throughout! That is "artistic license" as well is it not?
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@dgdoc I bet it is! Glenn Gould does tend to polarize his audience, but hey, so does Beethoven! You can't please everyone. So I just do what I find artistically convincing, what I enjoy hearing.
@potsdam5213 ай бұрын
When you hear this piano is when Beethoven original metronome markings make sense. It should sound very nice in this piano at such pace
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
You think? I normally play a few clicks faster, but in this acoustic that was really the fastest you could make. Just imagine playing the Hammerklavier fugue while being chased by two other Hammerklavier fugues!
@potsdam5213 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley maybe its the recorded audio, but I hear the sounds decays so fast, thats why I think the first movements fanfare opening will sustain better if play faster
@JoEbY-X3 ай бұрын
Your adagio sostenuto is very appassionato and is with molto sentimento!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Why, thank you! That movement is the reason I learned the whole sonata
@cambridgeport903 ай бұрын
Beautiful interpretation, gorgeous piano, and it must feel amazing knowing that you got to play on what is essentially the instrument of a god.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Haha thank you. It was certainly inspiring! Right across from me was a giant portrait of Liszt, which stared at me the whole time I was playing. Strange feeling being in such illustrious company!
@hurricane49123 ай бұрын
Well played.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Do you play it too?
@hurricane49123 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley No, but I am thinking of learning it in the near future. I have almost finished his toccata, and also play the pavane and menuet. This recording was very clear, I could hear the themes, bass and the ostinato each distinctly
@cultofhercules3 ай бұрын
It's amazing to play on them isn't it
@dorette-hi4j3 ай бұрын
Nice performance! As regards tempo, Hans von Bülow (student of Liszt) would have approved - in his 1871 (same year as the piano) edition of Beethoven, he says this in his note about the Hammerklavier first movement (his metronome mark is half-note = 112): "With the metronomization, which essentially reflects the character of the main motif, the editor finds himself in a considerable contradiction to Carl Czerny's ... Czerny's tempo half-note = 138 [in fact Beethoven’s, but von Bulow obviously did not know that], which is so unsuitable for the powerful energy of the theme and seems too quick even for the sections of this movement that are capable of greater acceleration, perhaps finds a kind of justification in the lower sonority of the Viennese pianos of the time. On a concert grand piano of the highest quality today, and such a piano (certainly an orchestral surrogate) is required to adequately execute this sonata, Czerny's tempo would appear confusing and blurring." Note his assumption that Beethoven was writing a sonata that could only be played adequately on a piano of 50 years in Beethoven's future!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Great quote! Thanks for sharing it! Funny that you mentioned it being suited to a piano made 50 years in the future, because that's exactly what Beethoven wrote Artaria (his publisher) when he composed the piece: "I am sending you a sonata that will be played in 50 years." or something like that. I can dig out the quote and post it here
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
As far as tempo is concerned: I often sing the piece to find my favorite tempo. And the tempo for the first movement which I naturally sing - vibrant, powerful - is upwards of 126. 138 seems like a slightly exaggerated version of my theoretical tempo. But it's barely feasible at the piano and, if you can play in that tempo, it's just plain bad taste. So that's why I often describe that tempo marking as more philosophical than literal. Beethoven was just composing in his head, he couldn't hear the actual effect! Otherwise he might have turned it down to, say, 120, which is still extremely fast. Who knows?
@dorette-hi4j3 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley I remember that quote as being something like "this will give pianists something to think about for the next fifty years" - he could have said the next 200 years! In practical terms, I am sure you are right about the tempo of the first movement. Whether Beethoven himself could play it (he did still play the piano in 1818, though not in public, and he had some hearing) at full speed, or thought it should have been played at full speed, is another matter. As you say, who knows? Thank you, anyway.
@angelaknebel41563 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness, it's the fearful Scarbo!!! I admire so deeply anyone who can play Gaspard, which to me is on another piano planet!!! Ondine is in my top three solo classical piano pieces ever!!! And you play this with great atmosphere and building terror, I feel like hiding under my bed!!! Bravo, my friend!!! 🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🙂🙂🙂🤗🤗
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I recorded the whole suite at once, just haven't gotten around to editing and posting Ondine yet. Le gibet is online though. Stay tuned! It should be up within a week.
@angelaknebel41563 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley will look out for it!! 🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎹🙂🙂🙂🤗
@ElaineCulbert3 ай бұрын
Incredible performance ❤
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! That piece is a blast!
@pianoly70583 ай бұрын
Love it ❤🎉
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thanks! That was my senior recital of the bachelor's degree... I didn't know my wife recorded it on her iPhone at the time!
@pianoly70583 ай бұрын
Sounds beautiful ❤
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@alcyonecrucis3 ай бұрын
My favourite recording so far is Paul Badura Skoda’s, but this one is even more charming !
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Why thank you!
@stankaplan77473 ай бұрын
Would be fun to hear my Sonata Militaire on it. My mother told me it (the piano) was in her family until confiscated by the Nazis during WWII. No confirmation whatsoever on that although my (late?)uncle was a conductor of the Vienna Symphony Orchestra and concert pianist. My mother actually had a picture of him standing at the podium with his arms crossed holding the baton.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Sonata Militaire by Scarlatti? Do you mean to say this very piano was in your family before the war?
@luisbalona96083 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. So beautiful ...
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you for listening! I do my best to make the world a more beautiful-sounding place!
@bootman263 ай бұрын
Well, I made it through three minutes of my most hated Beethoven Sonata, so that's a compliment. If I die and go to hell, this sonata will be playing non-stop.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
That is quite a compliment! For me, it would be Les adieux... Can't stand that piece (hope nobody comes to lynch me now...)
@moukka17603 ай бұрын
what microphone was used?
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
I don't know, to be honest. I didn't look closely. I think it was Rode... But I'll have to ask the man who recorded.
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj3 ай бұрын
this sonata is even harder than it looks, especially the fugue. props to anyone who even attempts to play it. mastering this sonata is lifetime of challenge.
@Highinsight73 ай бұрын
next to impossible... and ha plays it with such finesse...
@JoEbY-X3 ай бұрын
I am an amateur pianist and a friend who is a professional pianist once recommended to me that I spend a YEAR studying just the 4th movement of the Hammerklavier!
@Highinsight73 ай бұрын
@@JoEbY-Xdo it!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@JoEbY-X Yes, go for it! I spent a year studying it too. The result is this video. I brought it to my former professor from music college for some lessons before my first recital - I had 6 months to prepare it. She said, "what, are you crazy? I wouldn't plan less than a year of practice time before attempting this sonata in public." now, she's a Steinway artist.
@edwinstar1003 ай бұрын
It sounds awful! Perhaps some new hammers, a tuning or two! lol not a blended sound at all. The miking does not help.
@whodat91983 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, but I think this is probably a straight strung piano which was common for the time based on the harpsichord. Cross strung only came about from a patent by Steinway later on
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Yes, it is straight strung. Here are some pictures of the instrument and the hall: instagram.com/p/CzRkUpBLUgO/?igsh=dGdzbWxjMmNkb24z
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
The piano was tuned less than six hours before the concert and the hammers are less than 20 years old. It's just not as resonant as you're used to on modern instruments. Above C6 it basically sounds like a xylophone. That's just the way it is, not an issue of care! The piano is 153 years old, and it's amazing that is can still be played.
@edwinstar1003 ай бұрын
Thank you for reaching out, I enjoyed all of it and am thankful that the sound has evolved and continues to do with the engineering of modern pianos. This piano at 153 years is a true living relic, The performance space is really gorgeous. My somewhat strident response was more about my personnel disappointment with my piano, and I apologize.
@hesido3 ай бұрын
I have mixed ideas about whether I should feel good about not understanding nuances like this.
@Lion_McLionhead3 ай бұрын
There's no good documentation of the interior of Sondershausen Castle.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
No, and much of it is in dire need of restoration (as is the case in much of former East Germany). It was a big deal for the community to get the finances together to renovate the Riesensaal (Hall of the Giants), where the concerts are held. But some of the rooms off of there are in bad shape. You can tell it's a pompous place! But it needs work done. Here are some pictures: instagram.com/p/CzRkUpBLUgO/?igsh=dGdzbWxjMmNkb24z
@pianorandi3 ай бұрын
The headline certainly caught my attention. Wonderful sound, and a beautiful rendition. Subscribed 🎶
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I hope you enjoy perusing my channel and am looking forward to seeing you back at other videos in the future!
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
Thank you from s fellow pianist. I have a 7 foot bechstein
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
It's a pleasure! I have a Steinway B at home, which is what I recorded this on.
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
I am a pianist Juilliard trained. I studied with Ania Dorfmann . This performance is beautiful. Get away from the speed freaks of today and the half dressed cocktail waitress pianists . I’m not impressed with them. We must get back to real music making. An art long gone
@alanbash29213 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if my reply went through ...you are 100% RIGHT ………Juilliard M.M. 1977 with Josef Raieff ....Best, Alan
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
@@alanbash2921 ALAN before I studied with Dorfmann I was with Josef Raieff early 70s at Juilliard ! Best of times there. It’s all over now
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
@@alanbash2921 we have stories to share I’m sure. Contact me
@alanbash29213 ай бұрын
@@paulcapaccio9905. But not The Music !.........Best Wishes, Alan....... Mr Raieff was a great Man.....I worked with him for 5 Years.....Mannes B..M. .76 And Juilliard Masters In ‘77........where did all those years go ???.....it seems like a Twilight Zone sometimes.
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
@@alanbash2921 certainly went by fast. Raieff was a very good teacher . I also worked with Adele Marcus She was crazy but she helped me get into Juilliard .
@angelaknebel41563 ай бұрын
I love the Hammerklavier, and it's awesome I'm about to hear you play it on such a legendary piano!! Subscribed!!! Ooh you are sounding great already!!!! 🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🎹🎵🙂🙂🙂🤗
@louise_rose3 ай бұрын
It's an epic work, effectively a "symphony for piano". I've had a splendid recording of it by a young Christoph Eschenbach for decades, and last week bought a set on Amazon with Alfred Brendel playing Beethoven's six final piano sonatas, including this one (and the best version of no.32 I have ever heard, one I originally bought on an LP alongside the Hammerklavier one). 🎶🎹😊
@angelaknebel41563 ай бұрын
@@louise_rose Those recordings sound great!!! I recently listened to a fascinating masterclass where Andras Schiff did a complete musical analysis of the Hammerklavier, playing through excerpts of it too 💜 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3WbeqaimZlkoZosi=R5pQ_2WlQNo4EOgW
@reamartin64583 ай бұрын
1.5x speed playback is fantastic 😉
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
Maybe I should upload a sped-up version for all the metronome fanatics out there...
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
Your tempo speaks beautifully. I am Juilliard trained and refuse to listen to speed freaks and half naked cocktail dress pianists. We’ve lost the art of making music.thank you competitions . No more rubato no more phrases allowed . Your performance is a breath of fresh air . Thank you!
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@paulcapaccio9905 thank you! I appreciate that very much!
@reamartin64583 ай бұрын
I like your playing, was meant as a compliment…I could care less about the metronome debate, and speeding up piano videos is a blast. Please upload anything you want, I enjoyed the presentation. Well done. Artist diploma RCA and DMA Juilliard for what it’s worth bye ✌️
@reamartin64583 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a serious problem bikini 👙 is for the beach 🏝️ and that’s even debatable.
@GundulaRach4 ай бұрын
Awful music ... what can we expect from a deaf composer !!! Modern pianos sound much better abd fuller !!!
@indieWellie3 ай бұрын
sir, this is a wendy's
@cziffrathegreat6664 ай бұрын
It is said that this piece was considered impossible to play at tempo until Liszt gave a convincing account of it !
@remomazzetti87573 ай бұрын
This performance is certainly not played at Beethoven's tempos. This guy completely ignores Beethoven's metronome markings.
@davisatdavis13 ай бұрын
He was also a teen I'm pretty sure. Either 12 or 15. I know Busoni was 15 when he played it. But Liszt reportedly took a little over an our to play it (written down by Liszt).
@louise_rose3 ай бұрын
Yep, and Beethoven famously predicted that it would be played and properly understood by pianists fifty years after publication. Not far off the mark.
@CaringCommentator3 ай бұрын
Listen to this at 1.4x speed for optimal listening experience. : )
@lubakeshyan19163 ай бұрын
Tempo is wrong bc an idea of Beethovens style is absent in everything: articulation, agogic , phrases, and everything what required to play his latest sonatas, its thanks to KZbin to place fest food advertisements, sorry but it’s impossible to play any sonata without proper education
@fortepiano_enthusiast-f8t4 ай бұрын
is it a Viennese action Bösendorfer?
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
phew, good question. I didn't check, and I honestly don't know. It felt very much like a modern action to me, just with a lower key depth. I took pictures of the instrument, but mostly the case, the soundboard etc. I didn't take a look at the action.
@nikb61763 ай бұрын
Interesting that it has a low key drop. Surely they kept the original action even if it has been re-felted?
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@nikb6176 that's normal for that time though. We're talking a key depth of 5-6mm on fortepianos in Mozart's day, to around 7-8mm on the mid 19th century, to 9mm at the turn of the century and 10.3mm nowadays! That's a big difference.
@lorandviranyi11403 ай бұрын
I think it is not a Viennese action: you can see normal dampers on the picture.
@martinbennett22284 ай бұрын
On the tempo, the American pianist William Mason tells us how Liszt played the Hammerklavier. This is in an anecdote about a young man who wanted to play the sonata to Liszt and his students (including William Mason). He writes of the pianist: "He sat down and began to play in a conveniently slow tempo the bold chords with which the sonata opens. He had not progressed more than half a page when Liszt stopped him, and seating himself at the piano, played in the correct tempo, which was much faster, to show him how the work should be interpreted. "It's nonsense for you to go through this sonata in that fashion," said Liszt, as he rose from the piano and left the room. The pianist, of course, was very much disconcerted. Finally he said, as if to console himself: "Well, he can't play it through like that, and that's why he stopped after half a page." This sonata is the only one which the composer himself metronomized, and his direction is M.M. half note = 138. A less rapid tempo, half note = 100 or thereabouts, would seem to be more nearly correct, but the pianist took it at a much slower rate than even this. When the young man left I went out with him, partly because I felt sorry for him, he had made such a fiasco, and partly because I wished to impress upon him the fact that Liszt could play the whole movement in the tempo in which he began it." Note that William Mason states that Liszt played "at the correct tempo" and later gives an approximate value for a "correct" tempo. www.hellenicaworld.com/Music/Literature/WilliamMason/en/MemoriesOfAMusicalLife.html#page_103
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
That's interesting! That must be what J L was referring to. I feel much more comfortable with a tempo of 100-120, like Mason. I just tapped my tempo in the video now, which was 114 (at the beginning. I didn't check whether I got faster as it went on). I like the tempo; if I play faster (and yes, I CAN play the piece at 138), the piece loses grandeur, expression and personality under my fingers. Maybe someone else out there can play faster and make it sound good.
@benharmonics4 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupleyI completely agree that the slower tempo is better.
@dgdoc3 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley You are in good company. Glenn Gould would agree with you on the slower tempo! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4m8gISkrb-Ih6Msi=tmRsKEHm2YVKnmnJ
@IcePeak994 ай бұрын
Beautiful playing! 👏 I recommend buying a tuning hammer and touch up the unisons a little before recording... 🫣😀
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Haha yep... Working on learning that. Any tips? Crazy how you think the piano sounds fine until you hit record. At least that's how I feel.
@IcePeak994 ай бұрын
@JoshuaRupley You don't need any kind of fancy tuning hammer for the job, but it should have a tip in the size of #2 (the most common one) and I think the heavier the hammer the better because with that you have better control. And you need of course a rubber mute - preferably a wide one, that's the best for grand pianos, but also a narrow one if you need to tune an upright someday (that one fits between the piano hammer strike point and the string termination point). Anyway these mutes are cheap and it's good to have more pieces and if you are buying a tuning kit, you get a set of mutes in different shapes with it. Hold the tuning hammer parallel to the strings (so not perpendicular, which would be more comfortable), this way you eliminate some of the flagpoling of the tuning pins. In the treble there are 3 strings per key, usually it is the right string which goes out of tune the easiest, but of course it could be any of them, so you have to check it with the mute before tuning. For the check you can play an octave down or/and up. Good luck! 🙂
@IcePeak994 ай бұрын
Oh, and of course always double-check whether the tuning hammer is on the correct tuning pin before you start tuning the string. If you have already turned the hammer a long way and still no change in pitch, then check again! 🤭
@r.i.p.volodya4 ай бұрын
Far from the metronome marking again...
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
😂 I certainly hope so. Anyone who plays Beethoven's metronome markings is insane!
@r.i.p.volodya4 ай бұрын
lol But that's what Beethoven wanted! It is our job as pianists to realize the composers' wishes, no?
@j.vonhogen96504 ай бұрын
@r.i.p.volodya - I can't name a single pianist who plays this sonata in the exact tempo as indicated in the score. This is actually an old discussion that keeps popping up without a definitive conclusion. A significant number of pianists and experts believe those indications are either a mistake or were meant to characterize only the general perception of the tempo that Beethoven was after. Some musicologists even think the tempo was supposed to be just 50% of the indicated tempo, and there are lots of other theories and suggestions as well. I don't think this debate will be settled anytime soon, so until we have reached a clear consensus on the matter, I guess it's up to the pianist to decide what the tempo has to be.
@r.i.p.volodya4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for replying. I've followed the debate myself very closely. The only pianists that come close to Beethoven's metronome mark that I know of are Schnabel on the piano and Brautigam on the fortepiano. Personally I don't think it is physically possible to do on the piano - BUT - the hysterical energy the piece takes on as you get close to the marking for the first movement MUST be a hint as to the character He was after. It CANNOT sound relaxed or comfortable; relaxed or comfortable is NOWHERE NEAR what He had in mind. (As for the "two-clicks-per-beat" theory, as far as I'm aware there is ONLY ONE musicologist who espouses it (a German fella whose name I forget) based on the interpretation of one sentence from one source. There is NO consensus AT ALL that everything we've ever played should actually be half the speed we've always taken them, and so I give it no credence.) I suspect that you perfectly capable of upping your tempo by 30%.
@jorislejeune4 ай бұрын
@@j.vonhogen9650 whether one like the tempi given by Beethoven is a matter of taste, but quite a number of pianists have realised these (insane?) demands. I suggest you look for Minkyu Kims version, also Stephan Möller and Friedrich Gulda (live) have played the Hammerklavier at Beethovens MM. They can be found on YT.
@arteguey4 ай бұрын
What a beautiful interpretation. However, the quality of the recording is not that good...
@herobrine18474 ай бұрын
What about it isn’t good?
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
It's pretty direct because of the mic position, but the piano really did sound like that. A bit "plingy". We can't judge the sound of the instrument by the modern concert grands we're used to hearing!
@nikb61763 ай бұрын
After all, it is a Hammerklavier. Very different construction to pianos of the 20th century.
@arteguey3 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley Thanks for your answer. I'm not referring to the sound of the piano - a 19th Century instrument - but to the quality of the recording, which is a different matter.
@harper75094 ай бұрын
FLUSH
@lawrencetaylor41014 ай бұрын
Merci beaucoup.
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Merci aussi! Je suis content que tu aies apprécié ma musique
@kazeppa4 ай бұрын
Wowee! Beethoven's Hammerklaver and Fugue on FRANZ LISZT'S own piano?!?! So lucky and talented to be such as you!
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate it. That sonata is a monster project, I worked on it for the better part of a year before this performance... It's a lifetime project I think. There's always something to improve, technical challenges to master!
@armanzbahrani2914 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley - Non-piano player asking here: In terms of technically challenges, how does it compare to Liszt's or Rachmaninov's more difficult works? Wonderful playing by the way, seriously enjoyed it. Subed!
@jorislejeune3 ай бұрын
@@armanzbahrani291 this is often personal but for it was way harder than the Liszt sonata. It takes a crazy amount of dedication to bring Hammerklavier to concert level.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@armanzbahrani291 I find the Hammerklavier Sonata incredibly difficult. Liszt's music is mostly very pianistic, comfortable to play, and for the most part gets you a great return on investment - maximal effect for your effort. (the sonata in B minor is still really challenging!) Rachmaninoff is also very comfortable for the most part. 2nd concerto is a great example, it's very comfortable and sounds awesome. Gaspard de la nuit by Ravel is widely considered to be pretty much as hard as it gets (I'm not making a ranking here, and some pianists find some technical challenges more difficult than others). That said, I had a muuuuuch harder time learning the last movement of the Hammerklavier Sonata than Gaspard de la nuit (a video of which I will be posting later today - stay tuned!) I have never encountered anything like that fugue before. It's a monster! The closest thing I can compare it to is maybe Berio's Sequenza IV or some suicidally insane contemporary music
@armanzbahrani2913 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley - That is so interesting! Thank you for that!
@ingmarbergmanofficial4 ай бұрын
Amazing playing. How did you manage to get to play on Liszt's piano?
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cosima Wagner donated the piano to Sondershausen Castle after Liszt's death in 1886. Since then, the castle used to have a concert series focused on Liszt's music. I performed the Hammerklavier Sonata on the final concert of that series last November. Liszt gave the world premiere of that sonata around 1836 in Paris (I don't remember exactly when). The castle invited me to perform the piece on their series, I was just booked as a normal concert artist
@paulcapaccio99053 ай бұрын
Liszt died in 1886. Love your art.
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@@paulcapaccio9905 yep thank you for the correction. I've edited the comment
@SSNewberry4 ай бұрын
The audio is thin but the playing is top-notch.
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, the audio does sound a bit thin, but the piano itself is also much less resonant than what we are used to hearing today. The notes go "pling!" and then vanish, especially in the higher registers. Lower down you can still hear some of that modern Bösendorfer sound in the making. But it was fascinating playing that glorious lyrical melody in the exposition of the first movement on an instrument that sounded more like a xylophone! It made me wonder what Beethoven's aesthetic in that passage really was.
@SSNewberry4 ай бұрын
@@JoshuaRupley The "pling" is normal. While I have not seen an illustrious example as you have, it is clear that they wanted a "salon" type feel for individual piano works.
@CadenzaChris4 ай бұрын
I love the Op.11 set - 2 of them are on my channel too. They are so short aswell so they never are too annoying too learn
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Very nice! I will head over to your channel and take a listen! I find them fascinating... Very Romantic still, but still you can sense some of the other-worldly craziness that is so typical of Scriabin!
@CadenzaChris4 ай бұрын
Well done! I subscribed
@JoshuaRupley4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@CadenzaChris4 ай бұрын
Well done 🎉 I have subscribed. I love Scriabin a lot, actually my most recent upload is Scriabin too 😅
@JoshuaRupley3 ай бұрын
@CadenzaChris thanks! I checked it out! Nice channel you have. Scriabin ist definitely one of my favorite composers. I always find it to be a particularly deep experience performing his music