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@noodlesthe1st
@noodlesthe1st 16 күн бұрын
Where I climb theres extra bolts above the anchors cause no trees or rocks. I always did a clove hitch on a carabiner to the extra bolt and just guesstimated how much rope I'd need to the anchor. Never bothered with a gri gri. This is more legit lol.
@chrismargono908
@chrismargono908 26 күн бұрын
Bobby, this content is great. Prepping for a trip to the Gunks and this is just what I needed.
@XbunkerXballerX7127
@XbunkerXballerX7127 Ай бұрын
Stay high don't die.
@marchd1997
@marchd1997 Ай бұрын
How did this area turn out?
@hankmishima4798
@hankmishima4798 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video Bobby. Have just completed my first outdoor class and set a couple of TR anchors both from bolts and with cams and a rock. Clipped into a hanger and a cam for myself until an anchor was set and checked by my instructor. They both worked! I have a 30' static and just got my first dynamic so I will be likely testing your methods (with a mentor) soon.
@timmyross1487
@timmyross1487 3 ай бұрын
thank you for this i learned alot about edge safty and the danger of edgeing
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@jerek9378
@jerek9378 3 ай бұрын
Being so close is spooky, and its easy to get carried away. Just remember to practice safety around edging on cliffs
@derekherman5159
@derekherman5159 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Everyone says to setup a top rope as a new climber but I hadn't found a good video explaining how to safely set one up.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 3 ай бұрын
I noticed the same thing.
@svetoslavstoyanov5489
@svetoslavstoyanov5489 4 ай бұрын
How about we bolt the climbs so that they are safe, this especially means first bolts shouldn't be sparse. There's no reason to have the first bolt 4 meters up. Also, I think it's reasonable to put the second bolt a distance away from the first where you wouldn't deck it if you fell before clipping in. Safety aside, why wouldn't you make a climb accessible to everyone? There are very good climbers that are afraid of runout climbs, and there are a lot of people who can't climb but are okay with falling long distances. Those things don't have to be related. There is joy to be had in a difficult climb for the climbing itself, it doesn't have to be scary. Why not make the climb accessible to everyone, and if one particular person wants, they can clip every 3rd bolt, or even free solo it if they so desire.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Good points.
@timoimmonen1861
@timoimmonen1861 4 ай бұрын
Thank You, it's good to review the basics once in a while. Finland gives 10 points.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Glad you got some value out of the video.
@sol.cunnings
@sol.cunnings 4 ай бұрын
Sweeet, I live in camino if you still need some help. Im free most weekends.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Reach out on one of my social media's.
@sol.cunnings
@sol.cunnings 4 ай бұрын
I messaged you on Facebook.
@SchmidtymeTimbers
@SchmidtymeTimbers 4 ай бұрын
Love the info, thanks Bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@fredm8621
@fredm8621 4 ай бұрын
Love watching these. Hope there will be more one day!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Eventually, focusing on work, HowNot2 and my Climbing for now.
@fredm8621
@fredm8621 4 ай бұрын
Great video thanks, really would like to rebolt my area (in south of France)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
I climbed a little at Buoux once upon a time. No idea the culture and protocol for replacing bolts tho.
@masonmcelvain442
@masonmcelvain442 4 ай бұрын
I too am lucky to be alive after decking from the top of a climb when I first started out. Thank you for taking the time to make this video! Will definitely be shared with all the gumbies in my life :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 4 ай бұрын
Glad you are still with us.
@davidforwood962
@davidforwood962 5 ай бұрын
Dont use a bowline with a synthetic rope. Dumb ass.
@matiascamprubi-soms7719
@matiascamprubi-soms7719 5 ай бұрын
Firstly, I think that the NPS and USFS should watch this before Jan 30th. Secondly, I have found old bolts with intact looking hangers that are not on mountain project, and have no idea how to find the FA. They're all just single bolts on top of huge boulders, so not quite that same as the sport routes around the corner. Have you ever been to Bald Rock in Butte county? It an epic playground that's probably a great spot to rig an awesome 1km highline, though I have no experience with that. HMU if you ever make your way there; I live at the bottom of that hill.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 ай бұрын
I also have problems finding people who did first ascents. it helps to make friends in the local community if there is ine, but that has been hard in my area. I haven't been to Bald Rock dome yet. That and Grizzly Dome are in my list.
@anthonybonilla2939
@anthonybonilla2939 5 ай бұрын
Amazing videos brother. Thank you for the knowledge
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@fionadebernardi7612
@fionadebernardi7612 6 ай бұрын
super helpful! thank you :)
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 ай бұрын
Glad you got some value from it.
@christyl5481
@christyl5481 6 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! You’re a good soul, I appreciate this clear cut presentation. Also I’m glad to hear you made it out of your life or death fall.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 ай бұрын
Glad you got some value out of the video. Super stoked that I survived and can still climb.
@XVIIsionsProductions
@XVIIsionsProductions 7 ай бұрын
This is awesome 🤘🏻
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, Jayden is a talented dude.
@XVIIsionsProductions
@XVIIsionsProductions 7 ай бұрын
I bought stainless 5 piece bolts because I wanted to setup some top rope routes near my house. This seems like a pretty solid setup to use. Now I just need to learn more about installing them, preferably with someone who knows what they’re doing rather than just going off of KZbin Achademy lol
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
We did a video about those bolts recently on Hownot2. Definitely practice where it doesn't matter first as I have found them to finicky to place.
@XVIIsionsProductions
@XVIIsionsProductions 7 ай бұрын
Bobby! We must live semi close to eachother. I’m constantly seeing videos of you guys around the sierras/tahoe area. Looks like this one’s around horsetail falls? Have you ever gone to Virginia City? There’s a route up here but idk when it was established, or the stability of the rock, or how to assess it for safety etc. there is a cross at the base soooo ya sketches me out a little lol 🤷🏻‍♂️
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Reach out on IG or FB.
@montereyzay
@montereyzay 7 ай бұрын
Looks sick
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Did it live up to the hype?
@montereyzay
@montereyzay 7 ай бұрын
@@bobbyhutton1989Almost two weeks later, and I'm still smiling about it. Those 5.10 sport climbs were nothing short of rad, and that 5.9/10a crack was a total classic in my book. Absolutely unbelievable how much work you guys have put into developing that area, and the community is better for it. Thank you.
@Crewmaac2
@Crewmaac2 7 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video Bobby! It was great meeting you - Hope to see more videos from you soon!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, it was a pleasure climbing with you.
@z1522
@z1522 7 ай бұрын
The realities of rope gymnastics resulting in unclipping make those manipulations inconceivable, unless it were done right there next to the pieces. From below, the rope tension and length make any upward or sideways loading nearly impossible. The pigtail withstanding full FF2 loads makes its ordinary use in rappel/toproping bomber.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Those were my thoughts as well.
@z1522
@z1522 7 ай бұрын
Situation by situation, today most areas have a history that can inform active climbers, regarding local traditions, ethics, and such. Respecting the history involves both overall style, outlier routes, testpieces, etc. A few truisms hold anywhere: No one is forcing you to climb any route; your safety can be as simple as walking away; but also, no one owns any climb, and a first ascent is not a license to ignore the impact or consequences of ones actions on a vertical public space. Bold style dictated by natural protection deserves respect, and preservation, by and large. Artificial boldness, "statements," forced by sparse bolting, etc. age poorly(unless manner of placement was on lead, ex: Bachar-Yerian). Locals can develop forums to debate such issues, often as areas become overcrowded /overdeveloped. The Bolt Punk era of the 80's into the 90's raised the most ire, but overall now the reality of safety means that when bolts are used, they should be as state of the art and solid as possible. Despite some resistance, retrobolting heavily used belay stations and rappel lines will likely become more common, but really impacts practical realities and not the character of the climbing itself. Locally, I'm surprised that Eldorado Canyon has a few bolted rappel routes off Redgarden Wall that are distinct from actual climbing lines, yet the heavily trafficked Bastille Crack does not; watching parties at the awkward belays, as darkness or weather descends, gives me chills, deja vu of leaving the canyon years ago, half an hour before such a team had a fatal anchor fail and rescue of the stranded survivor. Abstract debates crumble against real lives lost.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Well said.
@z1522
@z1522 7 ай бұрын
Solid, practical advice. The tree tie could be done with the triple wrap, a fig. 8 eye and locking biner to the incoming line; this creates practically no strength reduction. If this were a summitting scenario, the main rope left available might allow anchoring quite a ways from the edge, if no closer reliable anchors were found, but this might necessitate moving down the line closer to the edge for communication, and not pulling belay rope over the edge. Situational flexibility, and familiarity with a few alternatives to the formulaic systems taught now, can help a lot to avoid needless compromises. The rule of "redundancy" is touched on, and the concept has value wherever anything might somehow be tested to a limit - but master points, belay devices and biners, harness buckles, and such are all non-redundant, in ordinary usage - but sound ropes, locking carabiners, belay devices simply have never failed where used to mfg. specs. Misuse and rockfall can bypass the normal parameters of things; things move and unclip, probably 100-1000 X more often than they break. Slings and ropes abrade dramatically, for example, under tension in a diagonal fall, across coarse granite - one climber following a traverse in the S. Platte took a mild penduluming swing, and found himself hanging from just a couple core strands of the rope(on display in Neptune Mtning). Testing equipment can reveal both surprising strengths, and weaknesses, in commonly used gear and setups. But developing an awareness of what to avoid is not a simple checklist; experience and sharing close calls can be more valuable than any quick "How To" video. User error is much more likely to result in accidents, than from using "old fashioned" methods which are still mostly "good enough."
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
A bit long and rambling so not sure I can reply adequately, but I will try. There are at leaat a dozen variations you could use to tie off to a tree that would work perfectly for the task. The friction less hitch you mentioned is a great one, ultimate strength doesn't matter in this context, but it is vey simple and can use a knot most climbers already know. No substitute for experience. You do have to start somewhere to gain that experience tho.
@briansanchez4767
@briansanchez4767 7 ай бұрын
I feel like everyone as climbers should know this skills
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
So do I
@fredylutolf2606
@fredylutolf2606 7 ай бұрын
Great work. Stay Save
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, you too
@fredylutolf2606
@fredylutolf2606 7 ай бұрын
Love it! I love this kind of climbs. Salut out off switzerland! Cant wait for new videos!!!! Allready learnt a lot from your videos.thanks a lot!!! Be save and have fun what ever you do!!!! 🤙
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy them, more videos in the works, too busy enjoying the mountains over the summer to film much.
@fredylutolf2606
@fredylutolf2606 7 ай бұрын
@@bobbyhutton1989 here starts already wintertime. I hope to go back climbing as fast as i can! I love your content!
@doutiful23
@doutiful23 7 ай бұрын
Bought to climb at Red Rocks in Vegas. Thanks for the good vibes Bobbaaay
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 7 ай бұрын
Right on.
@mittensproductions.1554
@mittensproductions.1554 9 ай бұрын
Weight is off of one bolt only…so failure would shock load second. Suboptimal anchor design.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 9 ай бұрын
Totally, in in theory. Do you have any examples of that happening? Vertical anchors are very common in Europe, especially France. I haven't come across any failures such as you describe . In the lower off scenario these are designed for there will be meters of climbing rope in the system. Dynamic climbing rope which is designed to absorb shock. Your loads in that scenario are also very low compared to the strength of a bolt.
@mittensproductions.1554
@mittensproductions.1554 9 ай бұрын
@@bobbyhutton1989 All valid points…and I’ve seen those in Europe and some sport areas and haven’t personally seen any fail with bolts (though I have seen old bolts shear and fail but that’s a diff gen of gear). In early 90s, I did SAR for a team that had gear anchor failure…with one piece failing leading the the second failing (mistakes of course included not being equalized and only have two). And from my days as a big wall rat, I recall hearing from the partner of someone who was dared to sleep off a single hook in his portaledge…with a zero alien close but unweighted as back-up (of course he and the ledge were backed up to the real bomber anchor but purposely done so with 15ft of slack for the bet…all stupid I agree but a very amusing story…esp since in the middle of the night the hook failed when he turned in his sleep…shock loaded the alien on static cord…and the guy fell…with his ledge/gear…until the real anchor caught him! The result was a lost sleeping bag, a nights sleep and perhaps his undies…in addition to the bet). While I love that story to this day…it really doesn’t refute your point. (And I’ve seen zero aliens take huge whoppers so I always assumed it wasn’t ideally seated) And frankly…without dynamic loading, offset bolt anchors are probably fine and can make rope retrieval easier in some situations. But I’m a dinosaur from a trad and aid era..who has much more faith in a cam i put in that a bolt of indeterminate age/quality/skill of placement. And I’m still uncomfortable if I’m honest with a two piece anchor even if in a place like Smith with my kids. Rational…maybe not but it’s hard to teach an old dog the new. Plus my goal was always to experience amazing places with as little chance of danger as possible. So I always like three or more as a rule…preferably with something I put in rather than Sir Edmund Hillary…or Joe gym climber (not that competent sport climbers that actually know how to bolt don’t do it right…I just know not everyone does) But it wasn’t really meant as a critique of you and I appreciate your efforts to teach the newer generation safe techniques and think through the physics of it all…keep it up and keep climbing! I’m no expert but I’m glad folks like you make efforts to teach us all how to enjoy climbing more safely!
@chrisgodsey3513
@chrisgodsey3513 9 ай бұрын
CRG!!!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 9 ай бұрын
Yup, my winter hangout
@mattriney6072
@mattriney6072 10 ай бұрын
Epic! I think i know where that is, but have never been up close. I would definitely climb here, and if you need any help developing or cleaning I'd love to help!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 9 ай бұрын
Reach out on my social medias.
@jaredanwyl3686
@jaredanwyl3686 10 ай бұрын
Bobby, winter destination? Thanks for making things happen.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
No, unfortunately. Road holds snow. It goes into full shade mid afternoon tho so climbable in summer.
@justinbrents3110
@justinbrents3110 10 ай бұрын
❤ teach me man Teach Me California
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
No idea how to respond to that.
@jimboyd4532
@jimboyd4532 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this one. A vexaciuos issue, retro-bolting. The joys of climbing. Thanks heaps for making this. 🙂
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Vexatious is an awesome word.
@testboga5991
@testboga5991 11 ай бұрын
Climbing ethics isn't worth people's lifes. Adding bolts to defuse dangerous routes is fine.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
Yes that context is important to remember. on the other hand not everyone has to climb every route.
@testboga5991
@testboga5991 11 ай бұрын
Wow, just found your channel after seeing you often on How not 2. You're one of my favorite climbing educators on KZbin. Keep the videos coming 😊
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard. I appreciate the kind words.
@NPC-fl3gq
@NPC-fl3gq 11 ай бұрын
Bobby just seems like the most awesomest bloke that ever awesomed!!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 10 ай бұрын
I wish.
@JimmyGrahamPhoto
@JimmyGrahamPhoto 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the knowledge Bobby, you’re one of the few channels I genuinely support. Keep killing it and hope you know there’s thousands of people eagerly waiting for the next upload, keep killing it dude.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. i am working on a handful of videos that I will probably release this fall. Finishing up an exciting one the will be published on Hownot2.
@zees4587
@zees4587 11 ай бұрын
love the Nalgene for scale! thanks.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
ha ha ha. i had to do so many takes my voice got sore and i needed the water.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 11 ай бұрын
Using the piton as the handle and proper blade steel for the blade is neat.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
I thought so.
@pstathopulos
@pstathopulos Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@crabbiboi5528
@crabbiboi5528 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I just came across some leapers hangers today for the first time. There were two hangers and a third five piece bolt with a washer and a chain. With no real other options I just did a three point anchor and did a direct belay for my 2nd. Everything worked out but I was a little sketched out. Luckily it wasn't on the route because I would not whip on those skinny ass hangers.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
We will probably be seeing those leeper gangers for another decade or two on more remote routes.
@HowToGuroo
@HowToGuroo Жыл бұрын
Go bobby!
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@mitchellan-ebbott7408
@mitchellan-ebbott7408 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned theft-is that something that really happens in the wild? Have you had anchor components stolen from any of your routes?
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Жыл бұрын
It happens fairly regularly at certain areas. Off the top of my head I can think of 8 routes that I have had to replace lower off hardware that I either replaced or upgraded initially. At the same area my friend had all the hangers stolen off a route he installed.
@noatomics8466
@noatomics8466 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good to know.
@toby1103
@toby1103 Жыл бұрын
Bobby, I've been watching you for years on How Not 2, didn't realise you had your own channel. Just wanted to say that I love your stuff and the work you do for the climbing community. Take my sub and I'll work through your older videos. Also that knife is so cool.
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support
@theslacksmith
@theslacksmith Жыл бұрын
You’re the man Bobby. This was good fun
@bobbyhutton1989
@bobbyhutton1989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for allowing me to hang out and distract you.