In general, driver ants are way more powerful. 1 lvl1 driver ant major can almost solo a lvl3 army ant major, the media can beat twice as many army ants as themselves despite only being twice as expensive, and driver ant majors are way cheaper. Basically driver ants are better in every way unless there are a significant number of army ant majors, which you could say about pretty much any other ant. Also in terms of enemy difficulty in the levels they appear in, there are WAY more driver ants than there are army ants, despite matabele and leafcutters being roughly equal in strength. So most of the time, driver ants win, but if allowed the time and food to grow their army enough, army ants win.
@krisztofergaming26953 күн бұрын
Worker ants dont have a gender
@shuelee90405 күн бұрын
Wait we forgot Driver ant workers
@Huegge199310 күн бұрын
One big issue with the mortar girls is that if you watch closely you'll see a lot of shots landing on a dead enemy because their projectiles are so slow. The rapid fire girls however don't waste that many shots on dead targets because their projectiles are faster.
@TheRulerOfHallownest13 күн бұрын
Just to answer that question about the medic bug: Yes, it is a bug. The medics are trying to pick-up a body that was devoured by a lizard/mantis.
@Tyler-n6x16 күн бұрын
I would put the driver ant majors higher as they can nearly kill a leaf cutter major (Taunt) and there damage is super good and when they get to low health they have a knock back and can stun multiple enemies
@user-nk1ex1pb4r16 күн бұрын
Bro was too scared to try majors 😅
@krecik446020 күн бұрын
Good tip: Always pick fast responder, cuz 30 anethetist vs. 30 fast responder = fast responder win, also same with power 2 and 3.
@mrdoom44-ns5se20 күн бұрын
A monster about the probati I'm not sure about provisions buckle
@coopersun750320 күн бұрын
i found this easier than against the odds lol
@mrdoom44-ns5se21 күн бұрын
Greenwood every single women except the murderer and and the media what is soldier I need you to leave colors for okay who killed first feasting on expense teams ghost riders
@antseppingextraaccount923321 күн бұрын
you should try 1v1 as army ants get a damage buff in a swarm
@dead3y3_YT23 күн бұрын
*ShepherdsPie clicks the food/attack instead of hotkeying* He just like me fr🤣
@dead3y3_YT23 күн бұрын
Amazing breakdown, here's some areas I'd push back on or adjust: The list is very top heavy; it isn't super clear in each tier how ants stack up against their own tier. Still, based on your breakdown: 1) Add s+ or x, or just move some ants down. Simpler to add at this point, but it isn't just fire ants in x. I think medics and termite majors have a place there, and termite minors could be moved up to s at that point. Confuse is crazy strong, though not as strong as infinite attack speed boost (T Major), doubling ant types (Medic), or the sheer cost effectiveness of fire ants (especially vigorous). 2) Workers feel really weird on the list, hard to place. You could kind of say the same for combat support (mortar and wood soldiers), but at least their main focus is still fighting. If termite workers are better food gatherers than regular workers, I guess they could be s/x tier based on your argument that it's about their purpose? 3) Taunt leafcutter ant feels like it could be in S as best tank. Not in X, but low S whether X is added or not. I really love how the game makes a list like this so complicated! Are all scenarios weighted the same? How many of the ant are there? What tier are they? Are there other species or just the one? What are they fighting? Is it an open area or in a nest? Good stuff :D
@apolloivanovic257827 күн бұрын
Not a consideration here (since it’s just combat power) but the Eciton ants come in a constant and steady stream, while the Drivers raid in two large groups of them. If we saw these differences implemented in some way then maybe the Drivers would fair better, but yeah Leafcutter are insane to be able to push the Army back
@karl769928 күн бұрын
The majors use the same strat as the little black ants. They are so cheap that no matter how many you use you never run out of food and can overwealm enemies just with shear numbers. In real life super major big headed ants only come to be when the colony is under big threat. So in game the devs want you to only use super major under threat of extermination and not for the sake of having them hence why they are so expensive. I do believe that the majors NEED a SERIOUS buff to bring them up from worker level to atleast black ant or fire ant level to make them worth while and so that 2 devils coach horse beetles can’t overpower them. Also if the devs do buff them bring them back to 40 food.
@karl769928 күн бұрын
Black ants or lil black ants?
@josephstrader236629 күн бұрын
How do the aphids work?
@sfinks867429 күн бұрын
Driver ants are so OP they are better than the army ants
@TheUnknown-kw3fl29 күн бұрын
Personally I feel like stink ants would be a C tier. While not in the video I would put the freeplay exclusive ant (Leafcutter super major.) at a C for being the most expensive ant in the entire game (2000 for the tile and 1000 to hatch.) And only being able to have only one in the colony, But your able to give it powers as you level up.
@wolfgang6319Ай бұрын
Hey bro you know termites are roaches you know that they're not ants bro😑😑😑
@TheUnknown-kw3fl29 күн бұрын
Termites are related to roaches and here it would be odd if they weren't on the tierlist.
@kaleb.7930Ай бұрын
Man, i wish we had more ant species in this game but it looks like development is done. They sure did a great job with this game.
@evanwei2312Ай бұрын
just put the fries in the bag bro
@plasmamuffin1320Ай бұрын
Little black ants are fantastic early game, but they have a lower strength cap than other colonies. While they are cheap, they're very weak, and while it's easy to upgrade them all to level 3, it's also kind of required to make them last more than a few hits in a fight, and they can't be upgraded further. A level 3 LBA has 40 health and 3 damage and costs 72 food, while a level 1 black ant has 50 health and 3.6 damage and only costs 50, and can be upgraded further. LBAs are heavily carried by their confuse ability, and once you're up against enemies that are immune to it you're in for a bad time. Additionally, there comes a point where you have so many ants there's no pint in making more and it's best to just start upgrading them, but that isn't much of an option since your LBAs are likely already fully upgraded, so all you can do is make more ants. So they're great in the early game, but debatably worse than even normal black ants in the lategame. Also any AOE attack shreds them. I also think you sold driver ants a bit short, the mass stun of majors plus their higher HP(140 at lvl1 vs 130 at lvl 3) and cheaper cost(160 vs 170) makes them better than army ant majors unless you can spam enough AA majors to get the damage buff up, and the minors, while twice as expensive as army ant mediae, have more than twice the health and almost twice the damage of army ant mediae, as well as up to double attack speed when low on health, making them far better than army ants unless the AA majors can survive long enough to get their damage boost up.
@dead3y3_YT23 күн бұрын
I was surprised by the ranking of LBA, though with a list like this there are a lot of ways to look at it. If you separate every ant from it's normal location and species (and ignore termite food being a thing) you could ask where each ant could fit. LBA could then be very cheap and cost effective, making it a great way to get an early lead and set up for more costly ants to sweep. But it is pretty clear that A and S tier are very bunched up on the list. Fire ants yearn for another tier, medics are crazy good support in early and late game (so probably above LBA from that logic), and I'd argue termite majors are a bit undervalued being the most reluctant S tier.
@demo0970Ай бұрын
Bullet ants are easily s tier also the fast regen is better the lean population since they regen so fast you can basicly have them never die by having leafcutters tank for them and retreating them continuously for healing. Also if you revive them with medics you can easily dominate colonies early game and you can get so much value off them. Also they barely regen without the fast regen so they will eventualy die their regen is so low
@jackmcgough1164Ай бұрын
I personally agree with everything except the wood ants - id switch them, the rapid fire are good but getting a wall of even just 30 mortar t3s with the splash damage wipes out everything
@GermanGaming157Ай бұрын
With you making these videos will make LBA overrated bro 😂 My opinion, they are worse than Trapjaws
@SHARKY_009Ай бұрын
7:59 my favorite part lol
@TankieBoiАй бұрын
fire ants deserve their own "fire ant" tier above S. They're so ridiculously broken to the point where the game has to give you practically 0 food to balance them
@mr.mcginnis8928Ай бұрын
Thanks for talking even when there was nobody watching live!
@niicOoLeee93Ай бұрын
One versus one army ants, lose driver and are strong on me and so strong together
@preston_1087Ай бұрын
Bullet ants are an easy s tier their tough to get but once you get the first ant it become significantly easier to get another ant aand just like 5 ants cause a boss to be stunlocked most of the time and their sheer damage and health make them counter ant tanks super well and they still tank a lot of hits against swarms, and once you grow your colony to like 100 ants they arnen't even that expensive to get going so yeah they're definitley op.
@basdejong1598Ай бұрын
It's gone so well with this new strategy (at first I would raid one, and then move onto the next, but just waiting a bit outside of their vision distance gives more food over time), but then of course my basic rng experience had to start again. An African mantis wandered into the trail, and killed every single ant I had and of course had to camp right on top of my entrance... Thanks game. Edit: should've kept on watching. Did not think about raiding an entire nest.
@DarknessDrАй бұрын
I like this, but i noticed the leafcutter supermajor is missing lol
@JebdsejjdАй бұрын
Let him cook again 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯
@GooeyZebАй бұрын
imagine making a colony in eotu composed of ants of each tier like colony s tier how strong woulod it be ? how bad would colony D/trash be ? etc... It would be cool to see !
@MemeAntАй бұрын
Good video Big headed major my beloved
@lashley1830Ай бұрын
Kinda unfair how you ranked the wood ant melee so low for being bad at combat while it's job is to tank which it does super well But ranked the termite major workers higher for being good at their job but bad at combat
@dead3y3_YT23 күн бұрын
Kind of agree, though it makes it tough when the melee are generally less cost effective than only using rapid fire and workers even in their own levels. I'm not sure how they stack up outside of that though. I'd guess that leafcutter majors are the best tank (for the cost), but there aren't a ton of great tank options Is having tanks important though? If they can taunt and boost their defense sure, outside of that it may be better to just have fighters (and ranged if it's an option)
@karl7699Ай бұрын
If bullet ants mele attack hit multiple enemies each time and could carry more much more food than other ants, I could see them being the most overpowered in free play among the strongest of ants.
@kristoffazekas7512Ай бұрын
That would be awesome if the developers added daceton trap jaw ants in the rainforest tier.
@thequackyest3604Ай бұрын
slave makers are only good at high levels (at level one they lose to a black ant, but at level 3 they beat a level 3 black ant).
@GooeyZebАй бұрын
at level 3 they also used to be on parr with level 3 leafcutter mediae. While it seems to not be the case anymore it was really impressive.
@depressedguy4723Ай бұрын
Nah bro is bugging if he thinks rapid fire ants even COMES CLOSE to Mortar ants. I mean they beat unlimited amounts of ANYTHING ( except wolf spiders). They are just cracked 😂🎉
@Pikminman1000Ай бұрын
They only beat that unlimited amounts of things if they have melees to take the aggro and prevent them from missing all their shots
@preston_1087Ай бұрын
@@Pikminman1000 that's how you use wood ants
@Cobrax_xАй бұрын
Idk, heolx (who holds several records in eotu) did some tests before and concluded that rapid fires are better in most situations, mortars only being better in underground large grouped battles
@Pikminman1000Ай бұрын
@@preston_1087 I mean yeah. But wood ant rapid fires can actually hit their targets if they DON’T have melees. Mortars take so long to hit a target that most things walking directly at them can avoid direct damage until right up in their face.