Oh man I would love to drive a Dakar! If anyone wants to loan me one for a video please reach out. 🙏
@Miroslav-v9m2 күн бұрын
I know exactly you are talking about. I allways get nervous when I hear rattle and then I buy lots of materials and dismantling, isolating and etc. But get rid off the rattle it is one of the most satisfying feeling.
@AtypicalDriverКүн бұрын
💯 I have some new rattles that I need to track down
@markg15315 күн бұрын
I agree. I’d rather have the 911T. I’m sorry they’ve added rear wheel steer to it for 2024, though.
@AtypicalDriverКүн бұрын
Wish they did an NA engine in the 911T. I mean the 3.0 turbo is awesome but a 3.8 from an old S would be a good enthusiast spec
@markg1531Күн бұрын
@ Agreed.
@markg15315 күн бұрын
To some people it’s not a lot of money. However, the 911 has grown too big and heavy to be a true sports cars. It’s a sporty limo, in my opinion.
@AtypicalDriverКүн бұрын
We all have put on a few pounds, myself included but definitely the 911. 😂
@BillChrisman8 күн бұрын
Thanks Vince & Antonio ? For building me a great engine Just added Larini Club Sport exhaust Changed the very clean oil Car is spotless on underside Quality high detail work my friend
@AtypicalDriver7 күн бұрын
I bet it sounds great with the Larini exhaust!!
@rob_esser9 күн бұрын
Thanks Vince for posting this interesting video. I have one question. What was the long thin black tool you were inserting into the head? What did it do? Thanks
@AtypicalDriver8 күн бұрын
Oh yes that was just a long magnet 🧲 used to fish the washers off and on to the head studs
@r129r16pfl13 күн бұрын
Best current hypercar!
@AtypicalDriver9 күн бұрын
It's pretty amazing, hard to think of anything that really comes close.
@Humbertoceda14 күн бұрын
I am one of the boys who were on the beach, today I was talking to a friend and he told me that he had seen this video on KZbin because he knows them. Thank you for being so cool and for this content, it is very good.✌️
@AtypicalDriver13 күн бұрын
Oh man awesome! Thanks for putting on a great show for us. I hope you guys didn't get in any trouble and more importantly, I hope you had fun!
@TP-300019 күн бұрын
Think Lotus Motorsport closed a few years ago after the first round of exige Cup cars.
@AtypicalDriver9 күн бұрын
Someone mentioned it may have been sold when they had their previous french CEO?
@axelzamudiomx21 күн бұрын
❌ Fireworks are prohibited in Ensenada!
@AtypicalDriver21 күн бұрын
@@axelzamudiomx ohhh damn good to know
@andybroer65122 күн бұрын
Looks like you had a great trip Vince!
@AtypicalDriver22 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! It was truly an amazing adventure.
@Racing2Learn24 күн бұрын
Excellent vid! Coming from the RC world were ICE engines only remain for nostalgia purposes and racing is dominated by electrics, we're looking forward to an affordable EV sports car! We regret not buying Chad Hurley's Tesla Roadster for $30k when we had the chance.
@AtypicalDriver23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yes the original Tesla roadster would be great. I have a lotus Elise so pretty familiar with that chassis
@ogarzabello27 күн бұрын
An experende video... But based only in imagination...
@AtypicalDriver23 күн бұрын
What do you mean?
@bid2own71328 күн бұрын
Love the silver what did it sell for?
@AtypicalDriver23 күн бұрын
Let's just say it was probably the cheapest Exige S in the USA (that isn't a stripped racecar)
@Spurhund_photographyАй бұрын
Just drove it! Absolutely incredible machine.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad it found a good home.
@FreeworldOLАй бұрын
If you have two how do you decide which one to drive?
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
I mean the running joke is, a true Lotus owner always has a backup Lotus to drive when the other is broken. But honestly they are pretty reliable with the Toyota powertrain!
@FreeworldOLАй бұрын
@ I didn’t know this… that means I’m going to have to get a second one. It was interesting seeing the differences between the two and then also comparing against my little s1.
@FriedBacon88Ай бұрын
is the fate of every exige owner...?
@AtypicalDriver23 күн бұрын
To sell their car?? 😅
@andrewpolasek5524Ай бұрын
Really well done video, the only one I've seen to compare the subtle differences on these cars. I like both, but would have to pass on the Exige for that lack of a rear view alone.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Thanks I really appreciate the compliment! I felt like I was making a mistake not doing a driving comparison in the video, but there are a lot of those already. Totally agree on the lack of a rear view. I mean I guess you get used to it eventually but when I go to cars & coffee in the Exige and have to back into parking spaces it's always hard.
@notabenex1Ай бұрын
What would be replacement?
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
No replacement for now 😭
@notabenex1Ай бұрын
@AtypicalDriver nooo
@bingo_madaraАй бұрын
911 R.
@AtypicalDriver23 күн бұрын
Or GT3 touring?? It'd be cool if they made a budget driver's car like the 911T with an NA engine.
@drew699Ай бұрын
The late Alan Clarke MP and well known aristocrat & car collector, long held the view that cars should have patina & I have long agreed with him on this. The practical aspect of having a pristine car cannot be underestimated - if it’s raining you likely won’t drive a perfect resto car irrespective of the cars value & the constant worry about chipping the paintwork etc largely all disappears with an unrestored car. I saw this car at Goodwood & it was very definitely patinated!
@drew699Ай бұрын
Great video as ever. Whilst I love the S2 look of both cars, the very earliest S1 Elise were only 700KG & with the 135 head or upgrade cams etc, 200BHP per tonne is achieved without all the additional weight that the S2 brings. You should try driving an S1 for a comparison with your S2 stable. The weight of a passenger in an S1 is very noticeable. It’s a great shame US didn’t get the S3 Exige - total beast of a car that I am sure would have appealed to the American driver. Thanks for posting.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and yes I'd love to drive an S1 Elise! The S3 Exige is honestly one of my favorite cars in the world and I've been looking into options for getting one here in the US. There are a few around for track use only.
@leagueofangels1866Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, was really wondering about this for a while
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Glad I could help!
@melvinplant8637Ай бұрын
YOUR AUDIO IS PATCHY KEEPS BREAKING UP
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Shoot sorry about that, any particular part in the video???
@melvinplant8637Ай бұрын
@AtypicalDriver hello seems like there were words missing,good video .l would love an Elise but can't make any headway at the moment
@nightshiftedАй бұрын
Great video! While essentially the same car with some tweaks, many more little differences than one might think!
@tvrduudeАй бұрын
Great video as usual Vince. Only a few things I would add... more as a spotters guide. All the wings on the 06 Exiges were black, so easier to spot "sans supercharger". Also those "LSS/Sport" wheels were 6.5" wide fronts. Phasing in starting 2008, those fronts were reduced to 6.0" wide. :( Later wheels after that went to 6.0 fronts and 8.0" rears....further increasing the understeer.. :(
@edwardnilges1675Ай бұрын
The side scoops were black as well on the 06 Exiges.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Oh great point on the black wings on the 2006 exiges!! Do you know what size rears the other lss wheels were? I know they went to the narrower fronts but did they increase the rears? Funny because you don't hear about the 8" rears being like a coveted upgrade on the forums (or maybe I've not been paying attention!)
@tvrduudeАй бұрын
@AtypicalDriver The base and LSS rears were both 7.5" wide. Only the true "rare" later rare wheel sets went to 8" rears . The later Elise SC wheels and I believe the later "Y" Exiges wheels too. Why they wanted to dial in more understeer is beyond me. Only the "lightweight" forged wheels had 7.0" wide fronts, with 8.0" rears. The Lotus Sport Wheels, the Cup 260 wheels, etc.
@edwardnilges1675Ай бұрын
@@tvrduude To further counteract snap oversteer, maybe?
@tvrduudeАй бұрын
@edwardnilges1675 the rears would help to a degree, but the narrow fronts was the issue. Ultimately it achieved what they wanted, probably to aid the "average" driver. Turn some and minor understeer, timid people back off, more turn and still in it nets more push to try to slow driver, but a sudden lift will cause tail to step out... larger width rear ideally catches some of that.
@chubukingАй бұрын
This is a really cool video I’ve been looking at these cars for a while and didn’t notice the small differences. For mostly road use and maybe occasional track day which car would be better? I’m guessing the Elise but the exige looks so cool!
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
You can't go wrong with either but I like the Elise better! The increased torque of the supercharger is nice though as the naturally aspirated 2zz only makes 133 ft lbs of torque, which I can probably exert with a break bar, hahah.
@chubukingАй бұрын
@ do you think the supercharger is too much for road use and it’s more to rev the naturally aspirated engine out?
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
@@chubuking No not at all, in fact I think maybe the supercharger would be more fun for road use with the better torque. Truth is, both are great!
@andrewthompson6893Ай бұрын
The silver wheel that you say came later on the Exige and Elise is incorrect. That wheel, internally known as the "Exige" wheel, was the first to ever be fitted to the Exige. It only appeared later on the Elise on special editions like the California (or when supplies ran low). Also, the weight difference between the 2006 cars was only 31 lbs, much of which was wheel/tire weight. Fitted with the same wheel/tires combo the cars were as near as makes no difference in weight. Lastly, the 4-pot AP Racing 7624 caliper (semi-gloss black, raised center) was fitted to some 2007 cars, and later replaced with the 7635 4-pot caliper (gloss black, flat face). Overall good job with the video.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Wow good catches and thanks for sharing this info. Are there any other Exige wheels? I showed the 5 spokes on the orange 260 in the video but I recall another style too....the 5 spoke lotus sports like you have only came as separate order right (and maybe in the 211 or Cup cars?)
@andrewthompson6893Ай бұрын
@@AtypicalDriver Yes, there were several wheels that were supposed to be Exige-only, but Lotus did fit them to special edition Elise cars as well.
@edwardnilges1675Ай бұрын
A few things to note: For the Exige hard tops, the roof scoop was blocked off and not functional on the non-SC 2006 cars. Also, I believe the later cars with the scoop that extends to the windshield are referred to as "full mohawk" and not just "mohawk" (to differentiate them as you could say the earlier ones have a "partial" mohawk). Finally, I am pretty sure the rearview mirror in the Exige was needed to pass federal and/or state testing requirements, regardless of whether or not it serves any practical use. Inspections include a checklist for required items, including rearview mirror, and owners would be faced with having to explain/argue that one is not worth having in an Exige - easier to include it. The useless sun visors on both cars are also worth noting for this reason.
@denverhuang1828Ай бұрын
The front and rear clam for the exige is also wider than the elise. Track width is wider on the exige as well. Very important point
@andrewthompson6893Ай бұрын
This is incorrect. They are identical at 57.4 / 59.3.
@edwardnilges1675Ай бұрын
They have the same suspension geometry underneath. Track width is only slightly wider if you account for the difference in the width of the front wheels that were narrower on the Elise to increase understeer as noted in the video. Swapping to the Exige width for the fronts as done here would eliminate that difference.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
As a couple of people have pointed out, I think they're the same given the chassis and suspension are all identical. I think it's more of an optical illusion that the Exige looks wider.
@denverhuang1828Ай бұрын
The clam shell on the exige is definitely wider than the elise :)
@midlifecarsis64207 күн бұрын
Yep, the Exige clam is wider but a lot of people (including owners) don't know. Wheel arch liners are a different part number.
@nedsgarageАй бұрын
Great video! one other difference (i'm not sure you mentioned) other than clam styling is that i believe the fiberglass process is different between the Exige and Elise. The Elise had a molded process where the Exige had a hand laid fiberglass clam and is thicker and heavier than the Elise clams. I've been watching your all your videos since before i got my Elise so keep up the good work!
@edwardnilges1675Ай бұрын
Correct - and for this reason you could say the Elise clams are a bit more fragile and the Exige clams are a bit heavier.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Correct! I saw Shinoo pointed this out in his video on the Inokinetic channel too.
@deansiracusa3966Ай бұрын
Notebook AI to have a discussion. LOL. I am a huge fan of this car and original and unrestored cars like it though!
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Ha you figured it out!!!! winner winner!
@kamran5756Ай бұрын
CD player
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Pretty sure it was the fuel pump
@shaftmasterlathesАй бұрын
Comes down to how you feel about cars. One side votes for perfect in every way, as new, no grass on the tires or driving. Call it art. The other side votes for driving and using the car for it's intended purpose. Call it art.
@johnmereness1054Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, history is lost in nearly every restoration - there really are things made with hardware that is totally unique to the manufacturer and argue all you want but that is not how the restoration comes out - there is a ton of close. That said, most things are relegated to “used” and not capable of a pebble beach field. That said again, I have seen some stunning unrestored cars be restored to get onto the field at pebble beach. Anyway, a mix of whatever is always a good thing.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing this insight!
@Pauley_in_GPАй бұрын
Geez, what an unbelievable parade of rare and gorgeous classics. Out of every traffic jam that ever was or ever will be, I'd choose to be stuck in that one. 😁 Thanks for posting.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
They really are something huh? Appreciate you watching and thanks for leaving a comment.
@christopherdimmick4000Ай бұрын
Thanks
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Wow, this is amazing, thank you so much!!
@brettmacdonald6777Ай бұрын
I have been involved with Cobras and Shelbys for 50+ years. I am a fan of the stories a car can tell. That is erased with restoration and I find attending a show where the only difference in a row of cars is the date codes on the glass and sheet metal to be VERY BORING. I'm also a great fan that the true story of a car is told. Dr Simmone's Daytona Coupe is an example. It was in fact the first Daytona restored. Jim Russell of Russkit slotcars bought it from Shelby with a fresh street 289 HiPo long block installed. Russell had show quality bodywork and paint done (I suspect by Dean Jefferies) and a new Tony Nancy interior installed. This was the face of his company and he wanted it perfect. What you see today is the result of 50+ years of poor storage not an original as raced car. BTW Phil Specter bought it for $12,500 and his bodyguard gave him $1,000 for it. We tracked down the owner in the early 90s and offered her 2 million (on behalf a a friend who lived back east). We had the door slammed in our face and she threatened to call the cops if we ever came back. Check out Chip Foose's channel and look at the preservation work he just did on a 1950s Barris custom that was untouched since Barris and Jefferies finished it.
@azuldiablo18Ай бұрын
Old video, but does the app work for oval tracks or just for road?
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
I've not tested it, but I think it should be OK for oval tracks. The only thing it doesn't work great for is like a rally that is point A to point B since the start and finish line are different so it can't really do lap times in a situation like that.
@tonysteppan8495Ай бұрын
Simple Both. To the owner and winner CHEERS!
@timothyshowalter9980Ай бұрын
wabi sabi
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Yes indeed - the beauty of imperfection. That is a great phrase for this.
@DanielleChiaroАй бұрын
I love both kinds, I don't think I could pick one category over another, but just depends on the specific car & in this case, I do think they picked the best in show!
@rickclayton1806Ай бұрын
I once attended a small car show in Colton California where an old guy showed up with his daily driver Ford Model T. The folding top was in shreds. It was crusted in dust. But it was driven to the show and driven home again. I was very impressed with that car. One could suspect that the owner was trying for that effect, but if you saw him you wouldn't think that.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Thanks for sharing that story, I love that! Wonder if that car had been in his family for a long time? When I took my Porsche 356 to The Quail I left it in "as found" condition after it had been stored for 23 years...I don't think people really knew what to make of it since it was the only dirty car there.
@yogimarkmacАй бұрын
Imagine buying Jimmy Hendix or Stevie Ray Vaughn's guitar and then stripping it and refinishing it. The value would be destroyed. It's about time the car world woke up to preservation.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
@@yogimarkmac that's a great analogy! 🙏
@gregshamieh6339Ай бұрын
I come from the motorcycle side, but the thought is the same. An original, unrestored machine wears time and its experience on its patinaed skin. I lose all interest when restoration becomes some sort of financial flex and a gotcha game. No vintage motorcycle was ever an adventure in chrome and enamel. I want to see the car or motorcycle as it is, and be able to experience all the roads it has been down, and the entirety of its 'lifetime'.
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
All the wear tells a story! Nobody wants their story erased from history.
@MW-uy3npАй бұрын
A sign of the future
@AtypicalDriverАй бұрын
Let's hope so! I think it was a turning point for sure.
@benrichards6158Ай бұрын
cars are only original once. I love that a survivor won. they are far more rare than over restored trailer queens
@tedecker3792Ай бұрын
If a preserved car is in that kind of condition, is a significant then it deserves to be best in show, absolutely. We seem to have lost the idea that this is about cars, not a flexing of wealth in the restoration process.