Awesome! Thank you

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Harbor might be nice if he walls could push back enemies or block bullets

This guide is genuinely insane I just secured a round by doing everything you said in this video

Hey I'm like the 5th or 6th out of 12 harbor players there is, cool to see that we're in the double digits!

i was gold 3 last act and now in the last 3 days ive lost won 2 games out of 15, every time ive lost, theres been some guy on the other team dropping 30 bombs, one tapping, doing perfect peeks, im in silver 3 now, losing massive rr per loss, im tempted to quit this game on pc now cause i cant go to diamond/ascendant skill level by trying to play in my own elo against people who are smurfing, for the record i hate it when i get a smurf on my team as well cause then the rest of us are useless and dont learn anything by having the team carried, i dont think i deserve to be diamond or anything like that, but id like to play people of my own skill level but as of lately, comp is unplayable, people wanna ff after 2 rounds, it really does feel like every single match has a smurf in it especially when theres always one cracked person on the enemy, the ranked reset makes no sense putting diamond players back in silver against us bronze-gold level players, i love the game but the matchmaking is shit, the smurfing problem is out of control, had a game earlier where one openly admitted to boosting his friends account, one yesterday where we were against a smurf reyna admitting to it as well, i consider this cheating, i want them to start hardware banning smurfs and also bring in a system where u have to register your phone number and are restricted to playing on your IP address and can only be changed with a ticket and proof. this game has no competitive integrity in low elo, its busted.

The cove buff is fr needed bro

I don't like how little you analysed Casade. Casade is not mostly used in a wall by higher rated players/pro. It's used in a way to split up players. Lets say, they are rushing down A site, Your casade wall for A site wouldn't do more than stalling players for 1-2 seconds. Unless you position a Jett or Chamber there. Because they whoever peeks that wall dies, and you get the full value of the 7 seconds. But It would be even better if you knew that were coming, used casade all the way until it went through a player and then stopped it. That way your Jett would guarantee a 1vs1, and be unable to be traded. Especially since whoever tries to trade for the enemy player, will have to both get through a smoke, and get slowed on top of it. I get you are trying to teach beginners here, but at least make advanced tools at the end of the video or something.

Great video. One more tech you didn't mention with high tide is that if you aim your mouse up, your wall goes slower and if you aim your mouse low it goes faster. This is true for any wall-like agent (except Neon). This really helps you "draw" your walls better. One important thing to note is that the wall doesn't go a certain distance but is only active for a set amount of time. So if you aim high the whole high tide duration, it won't go as far as aiming low. Also another tech, honestly never use your cove as a smoke. It isn't meant to be a smoke. Use it for securing plants, revives or more importantly to take space in areas where it is dangerous to just spam and break the cove. Put simply, play harbour very similar to Jett. Create 1v1 angles, aggressively use your cascade and cove like you would a Jett smoke.

From my experience, that "perfect" wall on B you talk about always leaves a gap on Tower no matter how well you do it. The gap can be avoided if your team sticks close to the right side while entering, but otherwise you need to throw a Cascade to cover it. Assuming it's a double controller comp though, it doesn't really matter much.

really high quality video. i will be using these for sure. thanks g

Disagree in a lot of smokes.

Awesome Tutorial Mr Lothar.

As an Omen main, I've been starting to learn Harbor (mainly to have fun with a different controller). Harbor can be surprisingly fun, and this guide is perfect to help win more rounds. Hope to see more controller guides, nice work!

4th of 12 Harbor player says THANKS!

As a Harbor main, a little tip to make these hard walls easier is to aim up, the wall wil go up slower but it gives you much more control.

Thank u I’ve been looking for a harbor guide

I think one of the hardest map for ranked controllers is icebox, so maybe create next guide on how to smoke icebox right, with both harbor, viper, and regular smokes

Thanks for the video, now I can play harbor perfectly in abyss and in ranked in general

thanks for the tech/ideas and the bit on cycling smoke util

When executing B Site i do a curved wall a bit different from the first one you did at 34:00, instead of covering heaven i curve it before, so it goes up the woden crate where people plant, this way the wall blocks the defenders below heaven, and allows the attack going through the jump spots left, if the team has another controler o ask for a smoke on the heaven big window, if not i make a cascade there. I dont know if there is a big gap im not seeing doing this way, but in gold rank its working like a charm haha In A Site im using the exactly same as you show in 42:53. thanks for the right click tip to stop the wall, great trick.

waited for this video, hoping for meta to shift to Harbor, with new Abyss map

Great video...not gonna play harbour coz of complexity but definitely great to know of the possibilities if an enemy is playing harbour! Thanks for the guide 🎉❤

Another 1 of the 12 harbor players here 💪 great video

I quite like that B exec. Can imagine the one without the "shower curtain" have a kayo lob a flash to pop just behind it to clear the rest of site. Also, pro tip (and I see you kind of do it a bit yourself already): if you aim at a steeper angle into the sky, you slow down the high-tide, giving you higher accuracy when curving the wall (see content creators like Ludilue and Japanese Curry that main harbor)

Hey Lothar. that silet rope jump in mid is actually super easy if you silent jump and only attach to the rope after you've hit the wall. it will slow your speed enough to allow for a silent attachment. ;)

I’m No. 13 after watching video

6:10 Apparently Toxic Screen has the same problem where the deployment indicator is shorter than the actual range, it's showing the last emitter at 60m, but since there's a 2m gap between emmiters, the smoke has to be 2m wide at both sides, causing the last emitter to have an additional 2m at the end, effectively making it 62m. According to Valorant.fandom, High Tide's travel distance is 50m in the game files, which is also the distance the deployment indicator shows, but the icon while casting High Tide actually travels further, and the smoke itself does extends to 53~54m as the icon shows, judging from how Toxic Screen works, it is possible that the "emmiter" for High Tide has a 4m gap, which is causing the additional 4m. Blaze however had the opposite problem when casted straight, where the indicator shows it covers 23m and the bottem vfx of the wall travels 23m, but the smoke itself actually stops at 21m, and doesn't seem to be just a render problem since the map shows enemy icons when you see them through this 2m gap, and you can be flashed through it, so it's not like those smoke behavior where the game considers it's blocking vision the moment it's created even tho the vfx isn't complete (The infamous Toxic Screen blocking flashes the moment you activate it problem, idk if it was fixed already or not)

I will become the unstoppable Harbor main. I didn't really think about how many bullets it took and didn't have a clue how to set my team up until now. The only issue is my aim now 😂💀

Theres a stronger wall for B site that requires some timing, its essentially just straight from the B orb up to tower but you curve right at the tower, it denies any angles on the right side and on top of the box as well as the opening on tower. Also its niche but if your opponent is awping in tower you can throw a cove onto the little blue barrels in the middle of B site and jump up to the top of the box, it creates a small opening where your head and gun will stick out but not your body which allows you to peak pretty deep into tower very safely

I feel like using wall at mid is too commital if you arent going to be pushing ct, thats what i usually do and i use cascades to scale up through ct and onto B site, because getting stuck mid after the wall goes down can be very scary since you're vulnerable to so many angles

Good tip for harbor is you can create tighter curves at the expense of range if you aim his orb up while you curve it

If u have a stack abyss meta is easily harbor, breach, iso, neon and sova/cypher

Ayo one of the 12 players here 🙌🏻💪🏻

although i have a very different outlook on the map i still appreciate the depth of your guide, keep up the good work

Really nice and in depth video. For Future videos where input type and order matters it would be neat if you could record your keyboard and mouse button inputs too. :)

I'm not a harbor main, but i hate this map, and i just want to have fun, i wont make the same mistake that i made in icebox and breeze playing viper. If Astra IS not good enough i have to adapt but feling confident. Thanks for the guide so useful, i Hope.

Duelist changes and introduction of Abyss made me quit playing Val, it's much better only watching

Thanks So helpful guid

13th potential harbor player

I'm just leaving a comment, nothing more :P

I didn't know about the right click lol

Must pick agent for Abyss imo. Won’t see pros that don’t run him

3rd of 12 harbor players waiting for this

NOmrod is gonna love this

2nd harbor player waiting for this.

1 of 12 harbor player here lol

I think a team like 100t will use either brim or Astra since its cryo on second smokes usually and he doesn’t omen

a lot of these tips are weird. Especially "the best" viper wall on mid is useless. You cant scale with it at all, even throught the door and wasting the wall only to destroy the doors seems stupid