That should be absolutely fine

There's a person in my discord server who built a rupture team that supports the new Sinclair, and while it starts out a little slow, by the time you're activating Sinclair's conditionals, the targets will have so much count that it won't matter. And this Sinclair is actually really good at just dealing damage in general. It's a great ID to just throw into a team if you're not worried about building a status setup.

No

@@kaskozhuk4158 YOU DID!!!!

The reason I never mention Solos in these videos is because I do not analyze IDs based on their capacity to solo, since solo is not a way in which the game is intended to be played (more power to you if you do though) And this video is analyzing the strength of the new ID, not some arbitrary situation in which I have to compare it to other Rupture IDs who are being boosted by Talisman

To be fair, Lantern Don is absolutely busted for being a 00 ID

I'm literally the Burn guy, I make the rules

@@kaskozhuk4158 false prophet.

Ye people just say it bad. He a good dmg dealer. He may not be the best damaging sinclair (N corp). He is 100% more consistent than him. There also no risk until it reach 30 stack. (Which you still can use him up to 50 stack for me) He alone can make any boss have insane rupture count as long as it do not hit the condition. What make it special is that he do both of them. Rupture Count and a dps. Also in super good in wave battle.

To clarify, while he does inflict a lot of count, the conditionals he has for it make it so that that count infliction is basically worthless, as he will destroy any potency you stacked. You need 15 Trunk to start going positive as him, and by time you reach that, your team should really already be at 15/3 conditional, meaning by then Sinclair will just drain the stack, giving worthless (compared to rupture count lost) Defense Level Down in return. And his coin arrangements, alongside the fact that the 15/3 conditional is On Use means that despite having seemingly good-looking count applications on Skill 1 and Skill 2, they'll never be useful for actually maintaining an existing stack - at 3 count or above, they'll just drain it, and at 2 or 1... they'll also drain it, because count infliction is on a second coin on both of those skills, and count is inflicted after its taken, meaning that neither skill 1 nor skill 2 can actually make up for rupture drain, they just reset it. And his skill 3 only becomes positive when you hit 30 courier trunk, by which point you just want him gone asap, before he just self-destructs or corrodes. His kit looks like it has a good amount of count, but between conditionals and coin arrangements, pretty much the only time he's at all useful is if you lost your rupture stack mid-fight and need to start building it up from scratch. Which is something you, as a rupture team, never want to happen at all in the first place.

Trust, Pmoon will release a sinclair monkey tree ego (thunderbranch abno) that will stop rupture consumption at the threshold for skills that rupture. (Coping)

That actually would be a lot better

I can see it being good with multiple tanks boss. Making one boss stack with 20 Rupture Count and other 4 can just focus on other boss. It also good with 2-3 wave fight. With boss at the end kinda like Ricardo. I say it quite good.

wholeheartedly agree

That's actually an interesting way to do it that I hadn't considered!

You can only do that and half their death timers once per fight per sinner, so they’ll still be losing well over 1/3 of their hp every turn after the first swaps

@@weferin To be fair, by the point they have to swap a second time, the fight is either over or you've basically lost. That's like 15 to 20 turns probably more

​@@weferin through it's true, you need 4 turns, to get from 0 to 15 trunks and 5 turns to get to the 30 trunks. If we assume, that ids can suffer a little bit it gives us (4 + (5 + 1)*2) * 2 = 32 turns. If i'm correct, it's quiet enought for any existing encounter right now.

I dare to say, he is the worst rupture ID in entire game (i even account such ID like G Corp Gregor or Dead Rabbits Mersault)

Ah, that's actually a good clarification

I wouldn't call it a stretch. Talismans is just stupidly strong, and shouldn't be the standard for other rupture IDs. This is still the most count positive ID in the game as long as you're not just really dumb and don't pay attention to the count when using skills.

​@@tipherethscrub982 He's the most count positive ID in the game... Between turns 4 and 7... If the count and potency isn't above 15/3, and he dies after this

Not weak, its just that it has the same problem any 000 sinclair ID will have, that being being compared to N sinclair, at that point it matters less how good it is and moreso how compares to another previously existing ID. Devyat Sinclair is being compared to talisman sinclair in this case, strong? Maybe, more than talisman? Now there is the problem that people have, as they give priority tp this question rather than the previous one.

@LeafGreen250 Trust me, I get it. I play talisman sinclair on-field more than most people, I know all his weird quirks and his synergies and all the ways to get to 5 talismans that people dont frequently use. And he's very strong! But Limbus is not a game that demands the strongest at all times. Something being stronger does not mean Devyat lacks a place. Devyat Sinclair is a much more comfortable ID to use than both Talismans and NCorp (who have learning curves of varying degrees depending on the player) and requires significantly less factors to be used effectively than talisman's passive (which can easily become frustrating with bad rng changing who it targets from lost clashes and such, leading to more retries than might be necessary) The insane, absurd standards that people completely arbitrarily impose on IDs is incredibly frustrating and speaks more on their overreliance on being told what the best option is because of being unable to use anything else, which is also ironic considering this is one of the most "ID completionist" communities I've ever been in where people feel the need to own every ID in the game. He's not as strong as either of those, but this is not a game that ever demanded that strength. 30 turns railway and 99 turns railway has no difference other than useless, empty pride.

@Real_Sp00ks So in other words he takes the mininal amount of you paying attention.

That is a very viable way of doing it, but since other units also gain the damage bonus (even if only half of it) and tend to do more damage overall, it's actually more consistent to have non-W Corp units first due to their higher natural damage output. Plus, IDs like the MultiCracks spend Charge on far more skills, meaning there's a lot less of an opportunity cost for them, even if they only get half the damage bonuse.

​@@kaskozhuk4158 That makes sense. Thanks.

Update: I did in fact fall asleep to this

the word "extensive" should clue you in as to the length of the video

@@kaskozhuk4158 Fair! :D