Pretty easy to figure out how hard a material is with a material tester
@MichaelWalker-de8nf8 сағат бұрын
Shameless...
@hockeymack18 сағат бұрын
They're named OK for a reason it seems...🤣
@marcmartens4831Күн бұрын
Down to 17degrees, must be a thin grind on that knife dude.
@turksheadbushcraftsurvival8717Күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. This knife/ company is a grail for me. I saw this and I immediately purchased 2 one of each style. I will never be able to afford the actual knife. This option for me is excellent
@kaaaaa8691Күн бұрын
If ur holding the lock bar it will always bounce out. What makes you think it would behave in any other way?
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
It bounces out even when not holding it. Detent is just a little too weak. Very different than their OK81.
@AszszAszszYjinКүн бұрын
I'm using the C148 Ambitious Lightweight (spyderco ambitious clone) and BM Mini 533-3 S90V (benchmade mini bugout clone) from them. I dont know if spyderco was treat heated properly, the edge was burnt during sharpening or the steel is not CPMS35VN, because it refuses to hold an edge. I also had to sand down the edges on that knife blade (not the cutting edge). Their mini bugout with carbonfiber scales is holding up much better. Fair for the 25$ knife I would say. I guess opinel and mora are still in another league with the quality of their knives but lack design that can be operated with one hand.
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
All of their non-OK branded clone knives (anything with Spyderco or Benchmade's logos on them) are made with relatively inexpensive and unknown steel. None of those are really the steel that it says on the blade (no chance of having S35VN). Only the OK-branded knives have a chance at having the real steel indicated on the blade. And even some of these may be "suspect". But yeah, my CF bugoout replica seems to hold up better than many others too. 🤷♂️
@aarondelaney8029Күн бұрын
I paid alittle over 100.00, this is one nice knife, I will probably get the darker 10in version.
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
They're pretty surprising. I wouldn't carry it. But pretty cool for the collection! 👍
@itechhenКүн бұрын
Knives that are not knives... makes not perfect sense
@vemund772 күн бұрын
Can't think of a more blatant copy of spyderco.
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
Except maybe the ones that actually have the Spyderco logo on them. 🤷♂️
@artemsmolyar21082 күн бұрын
Where can I get that skiff bearings bro? What is the dimensions?
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
Google Skiff Workshop & you'll find them. I also have links on my website at bladesonabudget.com. (I can't put other links in here.) The bearings for the OK81 and OK223 are 5mm x 1/16.
@artemsmolyar210818 сағат бұрын
@@BladesOnABudget Thank you
@artemsmolyar21082 күн бұрын
Where can I get that skiff bearings bro? What is the dimensions?
@jameswhoever37302 күн бұрын
Don't just go to live place like blade hq bcs they don't always have every version of a knife.
@alexandregraulle6072 күн бұрын
I think that was perfect with the first tuch. No need more ..! You should keep it like that ..! ^^
@alexandregraulle6072 күн бұрын
I think it can't be M390 steel ..! It's to expensive. ^^
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
😂
@OnlyGamingClips2 күн бұрын
My fav budget knife is still the aluminum scaled crossbar lock Vosteed Raccoon. That's a rad budget knife.
@BladesOnABudget18 сағат бұрын
I agree. The Raccoon is a very popular knife for good reason! 👍
@rshear6183 күн бұрын
“Tribute” is a funny way of saying cheap and lazy clone
@davidv74033 күн бұрын
Good honest review. I like it. Do you own a genuine Para 3? You will immediately love it if you get one. They are 100% worth every dime. I prefer the LW version of it.
@BladesOnABudget2 күн бұрын
Not yet. Several replicas - including a LW. But I keep hearing from a bunch of people that the real Para 3s have the same bounce out problem as the replicas. That makes me a little nervous.
@MikeyD87163 күн бұрын
I just checked mine again. Mine does not bounce out at all even if I hold down the lock bar. Maybe because I tightened and used blue loctite.
@BladesOnABudget2 күн бұрын
Well damn. I am hearing from others that there's a lot of variability in the quality of these. Someone else said they have 3 of these and they're all different too. Just lousy quality control. I guess that's what you get when you play in this game. But mine does seem to stick shut better when I let off the lock tab right away. Still not great. But better. 👍
@MikeyD87163 күн бұрын
Also don’t cut all the way down to the guard when making access to the lock bar. You want to leave it up about 1mm maybe a little more. If you go too low the blade will show. The G10 versions are even worse.
@BladesOnABudget2 күн бұрын
Good tip. I didn't cut this 223 all the way down. But I did cut back the 81 all the way. You can see the tip of the finger choil when closed. But not really an issue for me. Still a very good tip! 👍
@Aa-ron223 күн бұрын
Gotta love your honest reviews
@BladesOnABudget2 күн бұрын
Hey Aaron! Thanks man! :-)
@MikeyD87163 күн бұрын
I have this knife… I love this knife. Mine is great. If you let go of the lock while it’s closing it won’t bounce. The steel is also pretty good. I’ve used mine a lot and it has a pretty good Heat treatment.
@BladesOnABudget2 күн бұрын
Glad to hear that! And yes, you're right about letting the lock tab go early. That helps. Thanks!
@dogonmountain64453 күн бұрын
Looking forward to seeing a cut test. Looks like a lot of knife for the money for those who like to tinker.
@iodip56343 күн бұрын
Have you tried using one of those small ballpoint burrs to slightly enlarge the detent hole? If the problem is the detent ball not engaging well enough with the hole that could help, but if the problem is the detent ball, it’s a little bit more of a complicated process to replace the detent ball
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Yeah, good call. I can see its not dropping down into the hole like the OK81 does. I tried a little bit with the files, but don't want to create a "ramp" around the hold that could make the detent even softer. I might see about drilling the hole slightly larger. That should be fun. 🤬
@MatthewHartsuch3 күн бұрын
Just ordered a 535 and titanium 81. I've had an OK-81 in the past and really loved it, but the grinds were very uneven. I think I'm most worried about a burnt edge, because I had a buddy with the M390 version that had the edge roll/chip really easy and he thought it was a bad heat treat, but I think it's more likely a burnt edge.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Yep. Both the OK81 & OK223 have really uneven grinds. They're both headed for the sharpener to get reprofiled to 18 degrees. But I do still love the overall quality of the OK81. Please give me an update when you get the Ti 81. I'm really curious about that & would love to know what you think. 👍
@W3OY-RAY3 күн бұрын
I watched this video a month or so ago and it just popped up again while I was just letting videos play… This video is one that helped push me over the ledge to get a real Sage 5 for myself. I now have the S30V and Rex 121 models. I never really thought about “replicas” as tester knives but it’s pretty much the same thing I did with the real ones. I got the cheaper S30V to try out before getting the Rex. You helped sell me some Spydercos by reviewing a Temu special. Facts.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
😂 Just doing my public duty to sell more Spydercos! 😂 Looking forward to seeing that Rex121 review on your channel!
@W3OY-RAY3 күн бұрын
Nicely done. Great to see that your objectivity remained. I get quite a lot of stuff from lock pick manufacturers and always keeping perspective is important. Bravo. Just a heads up… those super thin washers… I’ve seen them in other companies knives as well to help centering and stuff. They use them like shims. I’ve even found them in a CJRB Ekko. It’s almost like some knives pass QC… then some that fail, they MAKE pass QC by tinkering with them.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Thanks Ray. Others have said that the washers may go in between the blade & bearings to provide a smooth surface for the bearings. That makes some sense as the bearings "pockets" in the blade are really rough. So maybe there. I'm trying it. Definitely NOT the best QC over there. But I DO love the OK81 a lot still. Way better in many ways. I'm an amateur lock sport guy too. Although nowhere near as good as you! I've enjoyed those videos! 👍
@N2EWSRadio3 күн бұрын
I have 3 of their OK-223 knives, two OK-81s and 5 of their Spyderco counterfeits. I like them all. But they ARE weird. They're all different from each other when it comes to where the washers go, how well the detent works, whether or not lock access is open, etc. They're unpredictably different even comparing what are supposed to be two identical models. So buying from OK is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. I will say this, though, out of all the OK branded knives and OK sourced counterfeits, the most common issue I have with them is that they have sharpened a nice bevel on one side and put almost no sharpened bevel on the other. Sometimes the difference is minor, sometimes dramatic like what you showed. But it's common enough that I re-profile every knife I get from them, day one, 17 degrees each side. I only have the Precision Adjust Elite, not the professional, but it works well enough for that.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
😂 My "Forrest Gump" knives! And yes, my OK81 is unevenly ground on both sides too! (although the overall quality of the OK81 is still really good). Both are getting a new 18 degree edge ASAP!
@williamsipe11513 күн бұрын
Could you replace the two thin washers with a single washer of equivalent thickness? Also, my finger frequently gets stuck in the square hole. That never happens with my spydercos.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Others have suggested that those thin washers go between the blade & bearings. They may be right as that "pocket" in the blade where the bearings fit is very "unfinished" & rough looking. So I'm trying them there for now. That kind of makes more sense. They don't need to be thick - just need to provide a smooth surface for the bearings. 🤷♂️
@Pony5950Сағат бұрын
Those thin washers are called shims usually used to remove excess space or play within a mechanism.
@1ohmwrecker3 күн бұрын
Yeah my yojimbo 2 needed the lock bar area cut out too. Idk why they don't? 🤷♂️
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Yojimbo? Was it an OK branded version? (haven't seen those yet) Or Spyderco branded? That's pretty surprising (and disappointing).
@1ohmwrecker2 күн бұрын
@BladesOnABudget yeah it's spyderco branded. It turned out to be one of my favorite knives tho!
@wayneanderson9913 күн бұрын
If OK-Knives is smart they will take your review into consideration and make the necessary changes to turn their knife into what it could be. By the way the blade bounce you experience with the para style knife is no different than the originals. I have several para 2's and they all have the same issue, it's just part of the original design.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Well I guess that's good to know. Except I'd really love to find one that doesn't bounce. It's a close to perfect size & ergos for a great EDC. But the bouncing is just too much for me. 🤬
@wayneanderson9913 күн бұрын
@@BladesOnABudget You could probably fine tune your knife with fitted washers so you could set the tension for your desired action. With the compression lock it's all about the timing of the lock bar release and blade drop speed so the detent ball can engage at just the right moment into the blade. Slightly more depth to the detent whole in the blade might help also. The blade bounce is just more problematic to solve with the compression lock design. Good luck!
@kerrydiecast14843 күн бұрын
Tried to orderd a knife from ok,but would never let my payment go tru.tried more than once.
@deinhorn23 күн бұрын
I had the same problem a few weeks ago, use the “Steady Pay” option and you should be good to go… it’s just below the regular credit card payment selection.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
They must be having some issues. Several others have said the same thing in the last day or so. Too bad for them! They're missing out on sales. 🤷♂️
@Digital_Kyle19 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what is going on with their payment gateway. I haven't been able to get it to work for Texas since a week before Christmas. As soon as I enter my state and zip the payment area in checkout says it failed. I emailed the company in china and they offered to do a bunch of really hacky stuff, which frankly I thought might be a scam, so I passed. They really need an American distributor with an American payment gateway. I have no idea how others are getting orders through unless they are using that steady pay feature.
@dinner_workingsly3 күн бұрын
I’ve got the real Spyderco drunken, decided to buy the clone after having the authentic….i know backwards. But the clone is pretty decent. The milling is great. The action is a lot more drop shut on the fake. The blade finish and obviously steel quality is far better in the real one. Pocket clip on both kinda suck, but the clone clip far worse. The clone feels lighter in the hand as well.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! And congrats on owning a true "grail" knife! 👍
@krazykat643 күн бұрын
Great review. You just earned yourself a subscriber. Agree about the clip. Replacing it with that $13 titanium clip (at the time of this writing) takes it from great to darn near perfect.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Thanks man! 👍
@D2G103 күн бұрын
That cross is not handmade. CNC machine can easily do this using proper vector files.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
👍 Thanks. I figured they couldn't be hand finished at this price. Still pretty amazing though.
@Digital_Kyle4 күн бұрын
I wish I could order one, but their payment gateway is down.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I've heard from a few people that have had issues with cards getting declined too. Seems like. they'd want to get that fixed. 🤷♂️
@Digital_Kyle3 күн бұрын
@@BladesOnABudget yeah for me I can’t even get that far. As soon as I enter my state and country, the payment area says the payment failed. I didn’t even get that far to input any info. This indicates to me they have some issues with how the payment gateway is configured with the site.
@HunterGraham-m2j4 күн бұрын
This guys full of shit these are as good as American made😢
@michaelwaldeck70814 күн бұрын
So I can tell you that most of the knock off knives, even though they may feel good and look good, the steel is generally 410 or 420 equivalent and if you are really lucky you might get it up to 55hrc or 440a steel (8crmov13). You really have to move into known Chinese brands, Harnds, PF, Kizer etc to have any chance of getting the advertised steel. Everyone else advertises what they think they will get away with and that’s why the same knife from different sellers will have different steel types. Eafengrow has outstanding value for money but their steel is only a mediocre performer. For example my dc53 knife will baton through pine ok but it will be glinting at you in the light and decent dc53 would not do that.
@ThreeFortySeven4 күн бұрын
It’s AMAZING! But don’t buy it.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
😂 🤷♂️
@SteelAddicted4 күн бұрын
I do not recommend anyone spine wack there knives I’ll go over y it’s not a smart idea and especially on this knife in particular. The lock bar insert is screwed directly into the titanium which will cause it to strip from the vibrations of spine wracking the knife over and over. Causing the lock bar insert to not seat properly which cause any number of problems. I hope this was a one off and not a wide spread issue. I hate u had a bad experience with the knife.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Well, it is a replica. So I don't exactly have the highest expectations for it. But yeah, its disappointing. But you better believe I'm still carrying it! I just won't be stabbing it into anything hard that might cause the lock to fail. It still feels awesome in the hand & has a very sharp blade. Cuts Amazon packages beautifully! 😂 And thanks for the "no spine whacking" tip!
@SteelAddicted3 күн бұрын
@ they do come with a crazy good edge on them and it goes through thicker material way better than I ever imagined given the blade stock and short flat grind height.
@jdisdetermined4 күн бұрын
I'd be very embarrassed if a budget Chinese clone was in *any* way superior to my $600 knife that I've had a decade to refine and improve. Not having an overtravel stop and steel lockbar insert at that price in 2025 is pretty lame.
@russ_simz4 күн бұрын
American Blade Works knives don't bounce when you close them. Also, they almost feel like there is rubber on the stop pin when you close them hard. You mentioned the 'Mcnees' in this vid almost feels like rubber with no bounce out on the stop pin. I don't know what causes that feeling or sound when you close certain knives, but I knew what you were talking about from your description and honestly I wouldn't know how else to explain it either. I'm sure there will be people who will correct this description. Great channel, I love to see you check out some of these clones, it's crazy how some of these companies can sell these knives for so cheap. It wouldn't surprise me if the company that makes the really good clones also does OEM work for designers or is a sister company of a very reputable Chinese knife maker. 🤔🤫🫣
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Thanks man! I've heard those rumors too! 🤔
@Skwish69524 күн бұрын
I passed on this because I thought it was only the 3-in. Now that I know there's a three and a half I'm have to buy this one too.😅
@spicydragon38814 күн бұрын
Even a half inch makes a difference. Sorry, had to say it. Lol
@Ragnarok207703 күн бұрын
Don't buy the fake. It isn't helpful for the knife community at all
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
that's what she said! 😂 😂
@Skwish69523 күн бұрын
@BladesOnABudget kinda walked into that one didn't I? 😂😂
@RandyFasnacht4 күн бұрын
I have the original on my wish list for this year. I think you convinced me to save up for that knife!
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
If you can buy a real one, I don't think you'll be disappointed at all. I say go for it! 👍
@wayneanderson9914 күн бұрын
That looks like a nice knife. The lock bar issue should be easy to resolve. If your looking for a nice non-clone knife to review in the future take a look at the RAT 1.5 in MagnaCut , it can be purchased for less than $90 currently. I have one and it is very nice! I'm not fond of liner lock knives but I made an exception for this one because of it's size and steel selection.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the tip! Didn't even know that existed. I'm checking it out! 👍
@mrmouse-ol9pw5 күн бұрын
Is that crooked river a clone?
@jdisdetermined4 күн бұрын
Yes. Almost anything USA made shown on this channel will be a clone.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Now why in the world would you think that I would have a clone of a benchmade knife! I think I'm offended! 😂
@WAFFENAMT15 күн бұрын
Personally I will never have the kind of money to buy a $500 or $600, etc. dollar pocketknife, I have never had any luck winning the lotto, so these Asian replicas have given me a chance to get some fantasy knives I would have never had otherwise...
@W3OY-RAY4 күн бұрын
Amen, brother. My wife bought me my first $250 knife because she knew I’d never buy it myself. Rex 121 in my pocket lets me know she loves me more than I deserve.
@BladesOnABudget3 күн бұрын
Rex121? Sweet! That's a good wife! Video review coming soon?
@W3OY-RAY3 күн бұрын
@ sure is… I want to use it for a couple weeks just to see how it goes. Love it so far. It’s not shaving sharp to pop hairs but when you cut something, it cuts clean and easy like it is. Toothy is an understatement of the edge.