Be sure to keep an eye on the project, as well! xash3d-FWGS_dc by maximqad on GitHub. Still very early on, but he's making a ton of progress, very fast!
Congrats on beating the easiest tower that no one failed on😂
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the original comment! I'll go ahead and throw it on the pile with the rest. Thank you for reading the room!
@jordanjones3850 Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC seems I struck a nerve... sorry but what did u expect when u made a title like that and then chose that of all towers🤣
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
@@jordanjones3850 It's the most fun one.
@fiestafool658 Жыл бұрын
Someone posts and moans about the difficulty spike everyday in the Sonic frontiers Reddit
@snomwommy9713 Жыл бұрын
yo lobo, do you have a video or anything to show off what your inputs for speed and everything is? because it looks gorgeous. I love it.
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
I guess I don't read comments that often. They've patched the game again, so my input settings here wouldn't be the same as they are in 1.41, but I basically turned the air deceleration to 0, and turned the ground deceleration to like somewhere between 2-8, but that's the value they changed in 1.41. Suffice it to say, it's tuned so that sonic takes 1.5-2 steps before stopping if you flick the stick in a direction from a stop. Tried to make it as similar to Sonic Generations as possible. Tracker's Physics is also a good mod to pick up on GameBanana.
@sonicsonicthehedgehog3164 Жыл бұрын
Is your sonic jump a mod or is it like an upgrade for completing smth in the game
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
Alternate Jump Ball on gamebanana
@Raikumoproductions3437 Жыл бұрын
I Honestly understand the Wyvern complaint, but on everything else, that's the point of a game, to get the hang of how it's different play style works out, and once you do, boy it feels really good. Not to mention when you get it right it feels like you never did it wrong 😂
@edrick2001 Жыл бұрын
The only tower i had problems with and raged at was the first one. All the other towers weren't too bad to deal with.
@moosesues8887 Жыл бұрын
Bro was flying dear lorda
@AnimationDude_ Жыл бұрын
"TOO EASY, BAD GAME" *Adds Difficulty* "TOO HARD, BAD GAME" Critics find any way to hate on something as long as it has Sonic in it
@sonicfighter64 Жыл бұрын
This right here is a perfect example of why some people need too git gud cause I swear sonic fans do nothing but complain
@Reaga_artz Жыл бұрын
Ok. *Eggmanland jumpscare*
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
What if I told you that all of the difficulty from Eggmanland was down to framerate? I mean, other than it being a 45 minute gauntlet on your first playthrough.
@_hyva_ Жыл бұрын
The only issue with the new Towers difficulty is the non-respawning homing attack items, and even that isn’t a big deal if you make proper use of the spindash. These sections made me actively use my brain in a Sonic game, which was a breath of fresh air given that I haven’t felt this way since the boost games started. They weren’t that hard at all, they were a fair and fun challenge that were made to test the skills you learn from your playthrough. Yeah, hard mode is hard. So what? Play on easy if you think it’s tough.
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
I tightrope walked it when I found they didn't respawn. Gotta go, uh, slow and careful.
@TheLalchi Жыл бұрын
I've found the tower pretty fun to do too tbh. Master trial and the snake trial was really the parts that truly annoyed me. And I guess the mini bosses have a lot of hp, but at least they don't die in three hit now and they are optionnal.
@Banded_ Жыл бұрын
Some challenges are annoying as well
@gekko3592 Жыл бұрын
I think the only problems that i had with this update were the knuckles delayed flight, the unexistencial training mode for the perfect parry and no checkpoints on the towers. Honestly, the last koco challenge wouldn't be so tedious if you started with supersonic and having checkpoints in the next titan, then you would say: "Oh, ok! Let's practice the parry" and it would be fair, ¿ya know?, they give you the chance to practice the perfect parry with every titan and it would be a hard, but fair challenge.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
It looks like the training mode should have been the first 3 towers, but that isn't how it panned out. I think you should have started The Final Horizon with the Perfect Parry, so there was time to get used to it. I would rather the Hard Mode of the game just start you off with the Perfect Parry from the day it was released. I don't know why they did that.
@gekko3592 Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC The famous "When didn't have time" or just don't trusting they players xd
@gekko3592 Жыл бұрын
I swear to God that mentality of "oh no, our players aren't really players, so let's build the way for them" gets tiring. Sonic team, I know you always wanted to make your games more accesible to the public, but man.... There's no need to add like 10000000000 dash pads, create easy mode for people who don't know how to play a f**king game and a hard mode FOR MORE HARDCORE PLAYERS! That's why I love Sonic unleashed, it's not to complicated to understand but its not a easy game either, it has its challenge the more you make "progress", something that is logic.
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
@@gekko3592 I think they just need to trust the players with the fact that people know what sonic the hedgehog games are and what to expect from them, so there's no reason to baby the player with the dash panels. I think some of their use is just down to making Sonic's movement work, but when you remove them from stages, they still play fine.
@acheron3627 Жыл бұрын
Those jungle vibes for real be hitting hard sometimes.
@Ardun_ Жыл бұрын
Goes to the easiest tower
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
They're all easy.
@thewackywarden Жыл бұрын
The towers weren't even that bad for me (apart from some breakable objects not respawning). My only trouble was that damn Perfect Parry boss trial. But these towers? I love these. I really wish the Jukebox worked in this update. I was really hoping to maybe have NEW unlockable songs, not to lose the feature wholesale. I guarantee this tower would be a blast with some rockin' music. I'd love to platform up this tower as Amy with her Heroes theme playing.
@2ndspringtube708 Жыл бұрын
Man I really love these towers
@michawhite7613 Жыл бұрын
This isn't the tower everyone's complaining about
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
Nobody should be complaining about ANY of the platforming.
@michawhite7613 Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC Ok, well you didn't make that case. You made the case for the fifth tower not being hard. That'd be like if I said Dark Souls was hard and you tried to disprove it by playing Life is Strange.
@MrSuperSonic1108 Жыл бұрын
2 words. skill issue
@KirbyThePuffball Жыл бұрын
I like how the title text is in UwU with a bunch of W's everywhere, In fact, the UwU text is a mod which replaces some of the text to have W's in them making it UwU text.
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
I can't tell if this was written by a bot or not lmao.
@KirbyThePuffball5 ай бұрын
It's not
@lilgal9346 Жыл бұрын
I never had trouble with frontiers but the fps drops on my machine during the Wyvern boss fight in final horizon made perfect parrying almost close to impossible, I only got through it by pure luck.
@shahmindrrathanabal Жыл бұрын
Ik ppl be stoobid frfr
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
frfr ong actually bussin I give it a skibidi/10
@goldenninja9053 Жыл бұрын
At first, it might feel a bit too hard, but it's all just trial and error, so it'll get better with time. People sure do love to complain way too much.
@break-beat-sonic Жыл бұрын
For al the comments, Get Good
@DragonOfTheNorth7799 Жыл бұрын
I love difficulty. This update was amazing in every corner! The game is now my favorite of all time🥳🎉
@turboqueer666 Жыл бұрын
It IS hard but I'm not complaining. You're right. You need to use the full extent of Sonic's capabilities and fully understand what he is able to pull off. It's not "left to right" as people have complained about for years. If you've played Sonic Adventure 1 or 2 then this should be cakewalk. Again, it is in fact very difficult. Definitely a serious challenge on hard mode but that's why it's so good. Great video!
@Trollfox64 Жыл бұрын
If being honest, I found the challenges it offered to be quite fun, we asked for a much harder, less hand holding experience, and we got it.
@SHSLRuby Жыл бұрын
Mod list?
@LobotomyTC5 ай бұрын
late to this, but here you go: Island Tweaker, Improved Ambient Lighting, Subsurface Scattering Fix, Misc. Visual Fixes, Graphics Enhancement, PRM Rings, Cyber Ghost Removed Playable Edition, Trailer LUTs, Reimagined Platforms, Free Fall Code, Boost Blur Fix, Tracker's Physics (Not used in this video IIRC, but it's one of my favorites.), Sonic Frontiers DevToos, Lower Camera, Fallen Fleet, Sonic Model Edit, Alternate Jump Ball + Trail, Playable Amy, Tails and Knuckles, Character Normalizer. I have way more codes enabled than I do mods, but if you want those, I can tell you what I have enabled as well.
@SHSLRuby5 ай бұрын
@LobotomyTC Please do, thank you! And no worries on being late
@ninjacat4088 Жыл бұрын
Are you using mods? It looks like you have sonic movie boost without full rings
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
It's the Alternate Jump Ball mod.
@Natezilla_2 Жыл бұрын
You do know that the power boost becomes permanent when speed is at max level, right?
@vjthehandsome5659 Жыл бұрын
You know I'm not even mad at the difficulty spike. I'm glad we got it. The only problem I have is with the master king koco trial. I would be done with it by now if I didnt have it on extreme mode.
@MMDAQ Жыл бұрын
Need a video showing all your settings for Sonic. I've been waiting to buy frontiers once all DLC was out so it'd be nice to know what to set the settings to off the bat and just play.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
I can tell you right off the bat to set your ground deceleration to 8, and air acceleration to 0. The other characters don't seem to behave quite the same way to the ground deceleration setting, but there is a mod/HMM code for that. The rest of the control settings are a matter of preference, but I went for the tightest and twitchiest scheme I could find.
@sourlab Жыл бұрын
Some ppl arecway too angry over the difficulty you asked for it some are kinda dumb but i just said it yall asked for this
@danthiel8623 Жыл бұрын
That works?
@cafequente8252 Жыл бұрын
That's some crazy precision with spin dash and stomp. I always get screwed by the camera angle, but I guess you're a natural at this
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting that the new cannons can't just be spindashed through, but I still haven't learned. Damn, why are people watching this, it's a mediocre run.
@vincent207 Жыл бұрын
Wait, how do you do the spinning all over the place in the air? I don’t recall that ability.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
The Spindash was released in Update 2. You have to S-Rank all of the Island Challenges that were also added. The spindash is an absolute godsend, and that and the deceleration in air and on land sliders bumped this 7/10 game up a full point for me. Turn those deceleration sliders to 0 in air and 8/100 on the ground, and it's basically the perfect mixture between Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Adventure 1. I have another video demonstrating how wonderful this move is.
@zenny3544 Жыл бұрын
If you complain about the difficulty, then you're a pussy
@rafaeltrindadelau Жыл бұрын
Pretty good. NOW DO THE SECOND TOWER. All jokes aside, only the first two towers and the fifth challenge are extremely difficult IMO. Everything else was fine.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
You can cheese a lot of them though. I am in love with the skinny platforms and box puzzles they threw in. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I think they're charming. Almost like little Sonic 06 hub world missions you don't have to wait until the heat death of the universe to load in.
@spindash64 Жыл бұрын
It’s a really big spike compared to base game. No wind up before the pitch
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
Which would have been completely fine if it weren't for that meddling perfect parry. The game simply wasn't built for it, even if there was always a timed parry in development. None of the bosses do a good job of showing you when the attack is parriable(?), because there's never actually a physical connection between the player model and the attack. It's 80% cutscenes, like a SEGA CD FMV game. That kind of needs to stop if this is the direction they're headed. You can script a lot in a boss fight, but you also need it to be more dynamic than this.
@DJAYEXISTS Жыл бұрын
I wasnt really hoping to see rhea towers make a return cuz they were always awful and there are some flaws with this update but all in all playable characters solo anyway
@WGY_Games Жыл бұрын
Your point doesn't stand since A- You've already beaten this tower which means you already know what to do and what's coming B- This is the easiest tower C- You are using the spindash to skip certain sections which is an ability that not everyone has unlocked
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
A- What's your point? B- It's also the most fun tower. C- Get good loser.
@Handepsilon Жыл бұрын
Nah, the easiest tower has to be the wall climb one.
@2ndspringtube708 Жыл бұрын
Your point doesn’t stand since A-everybody beaten it and I also did and it’s great B-not really ‘there isn’t much difference between the towers difficulty other then maybe the cyloop section which wasn’t much C-once you enter the another story you automatically unlock the spin dash whether you unlocked before or not ‘and even so you don’t really need the spin dash you can change the jump decceleration and you’re fine
@WGY_Games Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC My point is, you already know what to do! You have it memorized which means the idea that the DLC is too hard still stands because this isn't your first time trying it. The difficulty of the DLC on these on towers comes from the fact you don't know what's coming and any mistake has the chance to take you straight to the bottom and forces you to start over. Not everyone (such as myself) has the precious time necessary to waste hours of my life. Beating an unnecessarily hard DLC to a god damn kids' game. Which makes me wonder... How the hell are kids meant to do this!?
@WGY_Games Жыл бұрын
@@2ndspringtube708 Nowhere in the DLC does it tell you, that you now have the spindash unlocked. I didn't know that so I doubt the casual player would. (Unless I missed something which I might have since I had very little time to play the DLC and had to rush my way through it.)
@Tropelulu Жыл бұрын
Its not hard, its just cant work normal
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
This is normal. Taking your time is abnormal.
@zwataketa Жыл бұрын
The towers could have used checkpoint pulleys like Rhea's, but otherwise the level design is fine. It's only introducing the Perfect Parry at the end of the game which is actual a true negative, since the window is so tight and the attacks don't match up with the animations on timing sometimes. It's a forced nerf of a mechanic that doesn't function like that at any other point in the game, and even begins to intrude on how the new form feels.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
The Perfect Parry was a stupid choice to introduce at the end of the game like that. I was already used to it due to some of the combat mods, but I'm sure that threw most people off.
@Onaterdem Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC Yeah, like, "You're now Super Sonic 2! Your parry is upgraded to the Perfect Parry which can turn attacks around!" meanwhile you can't use your normal parry anymore so it's not a buff, it's a direct nerf
@Eevee860 Жыл бұрын
It's not that it's too hard, it's that it's garbage unfair design, harder games are fine, I love games like hollow knight and mega man, but in those games if you mess up it's your fault, not the game's fault like in the final horizon
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
It's only the boss rush and final boss. The rest of the game is git gud. 99% of the platforming is your fault.
@Eevee860 Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC The platforming with sonic is trash, you can't lower your speed for platforming designed not to use the max ring/max level speed boost, and they require you use the broken spindash that controls horribly, also the cyberspace levels, especially the one based on white forrest, suck, that one in particular drops the platforms before you can even land on them and really exemplifies the big problem with just copy pasting non-boost level design to a boost game, the honey highway one is almost just as bad, all the sonic sections in the dlc are garbage and unfair and no amount of "get good" changes how objectively bad the design is, the snake trial literally requires you abuse a flaw in the combat system
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
@@Eevee860Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with most of them (save for one really important one, which is cyberspace). As far as I can tell, the new Cyberspace stages don't even have the same physics model that the base game used. You're right, though, in cyberspace, specifically, your midair control is fucking dumb. It would be *okay* if that's how the whole game played, because it would at least be consistent. But that lack of consistency is the problem. Super disagree with your spindash take. That being said, I had absolutely 0 problems with any cyberspace stage in the update. Once you're used to it, it's fine. Those levels aren't perfect, a lot of them aren't even good, but if you can't beat them, well, git gud skill issue etc. They really aren't that hard, even if a handful are frustrating. The Open Zone Physics are 10/10 though and you can't change my mind on that. EDIT: Decided to be less rude. I need to catch myself when I'm a dick for no reason.
@KevX36 Жыл бұрын
OK, the difficulty is ether UNFAIR. evidence: unless you do one combo fast without messing up, you WILL fail the snake trial on easy. Or a joke like the following 2 trials. Also, the first tower is harder. Don't act like you're good by doing the easiest tower. You may be better than me, but platforming isn't most of the hard parts it's the trials so show that if you want to make a point.
@LobotomyTC Жыл бұрын
Nah, I'm just gonna keep unapologetically unfairly showcasing all the stuff I like and mock people for complaining about the shitty parts for two reasons. 1. Sonic Twitter is full of 50 IQ vegetables who are attacking my husband Morio Kishimoto by bombing his LinkedIn and I want those people seething, coping, malding, and toasterbathing every single day. 2. there is no 2 For real, this is not serious at all, don't be mad on the internet, unless you're Sonic Twitter.
@KevX36 Жыл бұрын
@@LobotomyTC yeah you've got a point. Think I was just blinded by my rage at the snake trial. Have a good day