"SOMIC FWONTIEW FINAW HOWIZON TOO HAWD" :(

[@LobotomyTC]

I keep forgetting that the new cannons can't just be spindashed through, but I still haven't learned. Damn, why are people watching this, it's a mediocre run.

[@coooooooooooooooorn]

I didn't know half of the Sonic fandom worked for IGN

[@Tr4yst3r]

Literally. Even funnier, they ASKED for a harder game.

[@Amsel_616]

​@@Tr4yst3rKishimoto woke up one day and said "These assholes don't know what's coming to them"

[@julianx2rl]

They put a 6 frame parry with* a delay in a game that has delayed inputs! (The switch version at least) I don't think that the complaints are unjustified.

[@High.devontion]

@@julianx2rlskill issue

[@ethanwayne6973]

​@@High.devontionImagine calling terrible hardware a skill issue (I'm a switch user lol)

[@Quionol]

"Next time you die, give your younger brother the controller." Me:

[@LobotomyTC]

My sister was better than me at Hey You, Pikachu! and I still don't even know how to reconcile that.

[@iiokrammii693]

@@LobotomyTC How would you even compete in that 💀

[@LobotomyTC]

@@iiokrammii693 Her voice was picked up by the mic better than mine

[@CC-ks6nm]

Maybe it's a but unfair on other difficulties, but as someone who only played on hard difficulty, this update was AMAZING (Master King trial is basically Agent 3 all over again)

[@LobotomyTC]

My biggest problem with the update is that it gave you a very nice new parry window, but the game's enemies (and by that I mean MOTHERFUCKING WYVERN) do such a horrible job of telegraphing their attacks. I don't focus on the silly spider sense thing, I focus on the animations. If it wasn't a color that the sky sometimes is, it'd be useful.

[@CC-ks6nm]

@@LobotomyTC The thing with Wyvern is that he has two wildly different rythms, the first claw is very slow and the second one is too fast xDDD but I think the telegraphing is fine, what I need is some shining sparks instead of the spider sense, because there's too much information happening at the same time. What I do to get better the timing is moving with the analog stick. It's not very logical, but flying towards the attack allows me to analyze better when to parry, instead of just waiting anxiously.

[@CC-ks6nm]

@@LobotomyTC However, I do have to complain about having to play the level previous the titan fight. I mean, I'm ok with climbing up Giganto and Knight, but the chase sequence of Wyvern takes toooo loooong

[@Handepsilon]

@@LobotomyTC I watched a video tip from someone else about beating that one trial and just now I realized the (motherfucking) Wyvern actually swipes with his claws and not his tail. The second claw swipe still looked off though

[@TheLalchi]

I've found the tower pretty fun to do too tbh. Master trial and the snake trial was really the parts that truly annoyed me. And I guess the mini bosses have a lot of hp, but at least they don't die in three hit now and they are optionnal.

[@Banded_]

Some challenges are annoying as well

[@0ME96]

FINALLY someone I can agree with on this, the difficulty is great, and this is the best Sonic gameplay ever released!

[@Hynotama]

The game just isn’t polished enough to justify some of the challenges. The new difficulty isn’t “great”, it’s just unreasonable and I hope Sega stops listening to basement dwellers. And keep in mind that I’m saying this as someone who did better than OP, climbing the tower on my first attempt. Then again, it’s not the platforming that was the problem.

[@LobotomyTC]

@@Hynotama Hey, I'll agree with the lack of polish thing. I see no problem with a 5-frame parry window on Hard mode if the FUCKING TREES WOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY. The game, even with an infinitely long parry time, has no real sensation that you're being attacked by the shit on the screen, during boss fights, like the Wyvern. That boss battle was already sort of meh, but this update really showed off how bad it actually is. Good spectacle, but it needs to play less like House of the Dead but you're Goku and we're 3000 feet in the air. Once I figured out how to beat The End, I don't think I'm ever going to have a problem doing the fight again. It's such a non-obvious trick to get to the weak point, but it works every time.

[@Hynotama]

@@LobotomyTC another instance where the game didn’t work properly was the snake trial. You’re supposed to do the stomp to inflict more damage, but not only does the game do nothing to teach you how combat works, what does the most damage and so on, but often times, when I would home in on those flower blade things, the game wouldn’t give me enough altitude for a stomp.

[@heyjoeway]

towers were honestly pretty fucking dope, haven't seen a platforming challenge in a 3d sonic game with actual risk in a looong time. fuck the trials tho and fuck not being able to use the other chars outside of another story

[@superbodoque7860]

Trials were dope too, snake trial is easy once you know what to do and Master's trial? Ok no lie that one is insanely hard... in theory cuz I first trieded it 💀

[@Hynotama]

@@superbodoque7860even when you know what to do in the snake trial, the game simply doesn’t work as intended.

[@superbodoque7860]

@@Hynotama well I can only speak for myself and I didn't really find any issue while I played, in terms of difficulty only tower 4 gave me some trouble and the final boss I was able to figure out what to do in my first attempt

[@LobotomyTC]

I liked the character gameplay the most out of anything. I want to see a LOT more of that. Amy was great.

[@thewackywarden]

The towers weren't even that bad for me (apart from some breakable objects not respawning). My only trouble was that damn Perfect Parry boss trial. But these towers? I love these. I really wish the Jukebox worked in this update. I was really hoping to maybe have NEW unlockable songs, not to lose the feature wholesale. I guarantee this tower would be a blast with some rockin' music. I'd love to platform up this tower as Amy with her Heroes theme playing.

[@chrishd659]

only up devs got quiet after that

[@LobotomyTC]

I like that they went that route with it. Only Up is WAY more frustrating than this, though.

[@_hyva_]

The only issue with the new Towers difficulty is the non-respawning homing attack items, and even that isn’t a big deal if you make proper use of the spindash. These sections made me actively use my brain in a Sonic game, which was a breath of fresh air given that I haven’t felt this way since the boost games started. They weren’t that hard at all, they were a fair and fun challenge that were made to test the skills you learn from your playthrough. Yeah, hard mode is hard. So what? Play on easy if you think it’s tough.

[@LobotomyTC]

I tightrope walked it when I found they didn't respawn. Gotta go, uh, slow and careful.

[@Hynotama]

You got hit in that climb… TWICE. I didn’t even get hit on my first attempt. And I still say that they went overboard with the difficulty. I’ve been playing Sonic games since I was in kindergarten, starting with the original genesis games, on original hardware and I never stopped. And I still found this update to be frustrating. The game simply isn’t polished enough to warrant the frustration. Oh and when people mention that it’s annoying, it’s not the platforming they’re talking about.

[@-__-4919]

Sonic Fans when you get hurt once or twice (no one is perfect): Its too hard 😭 Bro get your childhood experience and get the hell out of here dude, you look like Dragon Ball Z Nostalgic Fans crying about Dragon Ball Super being worse than Dragon Ball Z 💀(And before you say "what does that has to do with it?", its a example, I saw a lot of people saying the same thing without getting that is a example what im saying).

[@Hynotama]

@@-__-4919 it’s almost like you realised how your moaning about dragon ball was pointless and had nothing to do with what I said, but then you just doubled down on it, not realising that I wasn’t comparing frontiers with any older games.

[@LobotomyTC]

Who gives a shit if I got hit in the run? I'm not doing speedrunning autism here, I'm recording little snippets of casual gameplay and throwing them on youtube with silly titles. You have officially taken this more seriously than I ever did, congratulations, Sonicest Hedgehog in the whole wide world! Hippity flippity doo, Zap to the Extreme, kiddo!

[@Hynotama]

@@LobotomyTC that’s not the point. My point was that this wasn’t my “babies’ first sonic game”.

[@LobotomyTC]

@@Hynotama Your point is about as useful as tits on a brick to me, bud.

[@dojangofficial1050]

I feel like the only stupid thing in this update has to be Master King koco’s trial, everything else is incredible, except for the other trials of course, but those were pretty simple and forgettable, so they aren’t really a negative.

[@champ6959]

even that I think is fine, the only part I hated was te Wyvern fight. The attacks are inconsistent and there's a lot of waiting

[@dojangofficial1050]

@@champ6959 No do not push it, that trial was awful, attacks are poorly telegraphed, like for example when giganto does his spinning attack how the heck do you expect me to find the perfect time to parry that? Or when Wyvern surrounds you and is about to attack, literally the only way I got past that ever was by spamming parry and praying, and I think Knight’s fight is fine for the most part, but by then there is so much nonsense that happened that you’ll most likely run out of rings before you kill him, also doesn’t really help that the parry is like 1 millisecond long.

[@LobotomyTC]

It fucked me up too. I don't like everything about the update, but I like most of it, and that's all I can really ask for from Sonic Team. They gave it an honest to god try, reused some unused assets, and created a true challenge mode. The one update alone is much longer than all of Forces was. They didn't have to release anything, this could have been another god damned MGSV moment, but it wasn't, and frankly that's better than most of the 2023 gaming landscape.

[@Raikumoproductions3437]

@@LobotomyTC Not to mention it's all for free, what more could we ask for from Sonic Team.

[@PhaxtolgiaLegacy]

Skill issue, but I agree anyway. The parry system wasn't designed to be timed and it rears it's ugly face in the Master King trials.

[@winterdragon2004]

Oh please, this tower was a cake walk. It was the stupid grind rail and fan tower that was infuriating to deal with.

[@LobotomyTC]

Oh but I loved the fan part.

[@WGY_Games]

Your point doesn't stand since A- You've already beaten this tower which means you already know what to do and what's coming B- This is the easiest tower C- You are using the spindash to skip certain sections which is an ability that not everyone has unlocked

[@LobotomyTC]

A- What's your point? B- It's also the most fun tower. C- Get good loser.

[@Handepsilon]

Nah, the easiest tower has to be the wall climb one.

[@2ndspringtube708]

Your point doesn’t stand since A-everybody beaten it and I also did and it’s great B-not really ‘there isn’t much difference between the towers difficulty other then maybe the cyloop section which wasn’t much C-once you enter the another story you automatically unlock the spin dash whether you unlocked before or not ‘and even so you don’t really need the spin dash you can change the jump decceleration and you’re fine

[@WGY_Games]

@@LobotomyTC My point is, you already know what to do! You have it memorized which means the idea that the DLC is too hard still stands because this isn't your first time trying it. The difficulty of the DLC on these on towers comes from the fact you don't know what's coming and any mistake has the chance to take you straight to the bottom and forces you to start over. Not everyone (such as myself) has the precious time necessary to waste hours of my life. Beating an unnecessarily hard DLC to a god damn kids' game. Which makes me wonder... How the hell are kids meant to do this!?

[@WGY_Games]

@@2ndspringtube708 Nowhere in the DLC does it tell you, that you now have the spindash unlocked. I didn't know that so I doubt the casual player would. (Unless I missed something which I might have since I had very little time to play the DLC and had to rush my way through it.)

[@spindash64]

It’s a really big spike compared to base game. No wind up before the pitch

[@LobotomyTC]

Which would have been completely fine if it weren't for that meddling perfect parry. The game simply wasn't built for it, even if there was always a timed parry in development. None of the bosses do a good job of showing you when the attack is parriable(?), because there's never actually a physical connection between the player model and the attack. It's 80% cutscenes, like a SEGA CD FMV game. That kind of needs to stop if this is the direction they're headed. You can script a lot in a boss fight, but you also need it to be more dynamic than this.

[@notaprogamer2782]

Honestly it kinda pisses me off that people are dogging on something we have been striving for in a sonic game.

[@snakey888]

We have?

[@joe_mama__]

​@@snakey888yes.

[@snakey888]

@@joe_mama__ Perhaps a particular clique of people.

[@joe_mama__]

@@snakey888 people who play Sonic games?

[@snakey888]

@@joe_mama__ Let me specify, a particular clique among those who play Sonic games. Lets be honest, Sonic was never known or loved for its difficulty. The best Sonic games are consistently easier than contemporary games or other platformers.

[@MMDAQ]

Need a video showing all your settings for Sonic. I've been waiting to buy frontiers once all DLC was out so it'd be nice to know what to set the settings to off the bat and just play.

[@LobotomyTC]

I can tell you right off the bat to set your ground deceleration to 8, and air acceleration to 0. The other characters don't seem to behave quite the same way to the ground deceleration setting, but there is a mod/HMM code for that. The rest of the control settings are a matter of preference, but I went for the tightest and twitchiest scheme I could find.

[@2ndspringtube708]

Man I really love these towers

[@EndrrNobody]

Whatever mods you got I want

[@LobotomyTC]

Island Tweaker, Improved Ambient Lighting, Subsurface Scattering Fix, Misc. Visual Fixes, Graphics Enhancement, PRM Rings, Cyber Ghost Removed Playable Edition, Trailer LUTs, Reimagined Platforms, Free Fall Code, Boost Blur Fix, Tracker's Physics (Not used in this video IIRC, but it's one of my favorites.), Sonic Frontiers DevToos, Lower Camera, Fallen Fleet, Sonic Model Edit, Alternate Jump Ball + Trail, Playable Amy, Tails and Knuckles, Character Normalizer. I have way more codes enabled than I do mods, but if you want those, I can tell you what I have enabled as well. I'll update the description with this.

[@EndrrNobody]

Damn bro i dont even play the game no more😭

[@cafequente8252]

That's some crazy precision with spin dash and stomp. I always get screwed by the camera angle, but I guess you're a natural at this

[@edrick2001]

The only tower i had problems with and raged at was the first one. All the other towers weren't too bad to deal with.

[@Z333_0]

I legit didn’t expect this at all lol

[@Reaga_artz]

Ok. *Eggmanland jumpscare*

[@LobotomyTC]

What if I told you that all of the difficulty from Eggmanland was down to framerate? I mean, other than it being a 45 minute gauntlet on your first playthrough.

[@moosesues8887]

Bro was flying dear lorda

[@hgmd3284]

everyone in this entire video and comment section is both right and wrong. its not that difficult, but not everybody has the same skill level, you dont need to insult them.

[@LobotomyTC]

Nah, I'll insult em, but it's just to tease.

[@Oreocakesters123]

I don’t get it though if it’s too difficult for the people complaining why not just turn down the difficulty ? It genuinely makes it 100x easier. Like I feel like these towers weren’t that hard at all and if others think it was it’s fine but just turn it to easy mode lol.

[@2ndspringtube708]

Heard of an invention called….changing difficulty?you REALLY don’t have to play it on hard if it’s too much

[@dennmenn99]

⁠@@Oreocakesters123I hardly had issues with the platforming but I don’t think changing it to easy mode is going to make the platforming any easier lol. However where i disagree completely is that if you have to change difficulty for a GAME MECHANIC (perfect parry) to work properly on the wyvern. It’s bad game design.

[@dennmenn99]

“Just switch to easy lol” Is not a good excuse for adding a mechanic to a game that wasn’t made for said mechanic in the first place. Just saying. I still love the game though.

[@vjthehandsome5659]

You know I'm not even mad at the difficulty spike. I'm glad we got it. The only problem I have is with the master king koco trial. I would be done with it by now if I didnt have it on extreme mode.

[@vincent207]

Wait, how do you do the spinning all over the place in the air? I don’t recall that ability.

[@LobotomyTC]

The Spindash was released in Update 2. You have to S-Rank all of the Island Challenges that were also added. The spindash is an absolute godsend, and that and the deceleration in air and on land sliders bumped this 7/10 game up a full point for me. Turn those deceleration sliders to 0 in air and 8/100 on the ground, and it's basically the perfect mixture between Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Adventure 1. I have another video demonstrating how wonderful this move is.

[@goldenninja9053]

At first, it might feel a bit too hard, but it's all just trial and error, so it'll get better with time. People sure do love to complain way too much.

[@snomwommy9713]

yo lobo, do you have a video or anything to show off what your inputs for speed and everything is? because it looks gorgeous. I love it.

[@LobotomyTC]

I guess I don't read comments that often. They've patched the game again, so my input settings here wouldn't be the same as they are in 1.41, but I basically turned the air deceleration to 0, and turned the ground deceleration to like somewhere between 2-8, but that's the value they changed in 1.41. Suffice it to say, it's tuned so that sonic takes 1.5-2 steps before stopping if you flick the stick in a direction from a stop. Tried to make it as similar to Sonic Generations as possible. Tracker's Physics is also a good mod to pick up on GameBanana.

[@cobiguy]

literally no one was complaining about this tower though. also most people are complaining about the difficulty spike and not the difficulty itself

[@LobotomyTC]

As far as I'm concerned, this is DLC. Sonic Unleashed DLC was also a nutkicker. I don't want the game to be nice to me after I've already beaten it. I want an entire game made out of Cyberspace 1-2 S-Rank Challenges.

[@gekko3592]

I think the only problems that i had with this update were the knuckles delayed flight, the unexistencial training mode for the perfect parry and no checkpoints on the towers. Honestly, the last koco challenge wouldn't be so tedious if you started with supersonic and having checkpoints in the next titan, then you would say: "Oh, ok! Let's practice the parry" and it would be fair, ¿ya know?, they give you the chance to practice the perfect parry with every titan and it would be a hard, but fair challenge.

[@LobotomyTC]

It looks like the training mode should have been the first 3 towers, but that isn't how it panned out. I think you should have started The Final Horizon with the Perfect Parry, so there was time to get used to it. I would rather the Hard Mode of the game just start you off with the Perfect Parry from the day it was released. I don't know why they did that.

[@gekko3592]

@@LobotomyTC The famous "When didn't have time" or just don't trusting they players xd

[@gekko3592]

I swear to God that mentality of "oh no, our players aren't really players, so let's build the way for them" gets tiring. Sonic team, I know you always wanted to make your games more accesible to the public, but man.... There's no need to add like 10000000000 dash pads, create easy mode for people who don't know how to play a f**king game and a hard mode FOR MORE HARDCORE PLAYERS! That's why I love Sonic unleashed, it's not to complicated to understand but its not a easy game either, it has its challenge the more you make "progress", something that is logic.

[@LobotomyTC]

@@gekko3592 I think they just need to trust the players with the fact that people know what sonic the hedgehog games are and what to expect from them, so there's no reason to baby the player with the dash panels. I think some of their use is just down to making Sonic's movement work, but when you remove them from stages, they still play fine.

[@michawhite7613]

This isn't the tower everyone's complaining about

[@LobotomyTC]

Nobody should be complaining about ANY of the platforming.

[@michawhite7613]

@@LobotomyTC Ok, well you didn't make that case. You made the case for the fifth tower not being hard. That'd be like if I said Dark Souls was hard and you tried to disprove it by playing Life is Strange.

[@Blackan]

Praise this dude Praise this dood nao!

[@Trollfox64]

If being honest, I found the challenges it offered to be quite fun, we asked for a much harder, less hand holding experience, and we got it.

[@zwataketa]

The towers could have used checkpoint pulleys like Rhea's, but otherwise the level design is fine. It's only introducing the Perfect Parry at the end of the game which is actual a true negative, since the window is so tight and the attacks don't match up with the animations on timing sometimes. It's a forced nerf of a mechanic that doesn't function like that at any other point in the game, and even begins to intrude on how the new form feels.

[@LobotomyTC]

The Perfect Parry was a stupid choice to introduce at the end of the game like that. I was already used to it due to some of the combat mods, but I'm sure that threw most people off.

[@Onaterdem]

@@LobotomyTC Yeah, like, "You're now Super Sonic 2! Your parry is upgraded to the Perfect Parry which can turn attacks around!" meanwhile you can't use your normal parry anymore so it's not a buff, it's a direct nerf

[@Kwabs55]

you literally picked THE easiest tower out of all of them :(

[@5Chr5ome5]

fr lmao bro picks the easiest tower then says other people have a skill issue, i did this tower first try on hard mode, this isnt one of the towers ppl r complaining abt

[@abra_escaped]

First one was the hardest to me, would've been a lot easier without speed lv99 because those jumps clearly didn't intend for you to have power boost

[@LobotomyTC]

I didn't really pick, I just did one. It is an easy tower, and that's the point of the video. You can cheese the shit out of the other three too, if you want to capitalize on jank, which you should. Is this video biased representation? Yes, but it's my channel and I don't have to care about integrity.

[@lilgal9346]

I never had trouble with frontiers but the fps drops on my machine during the Wyvern boss fight in final horizon made perfect parrying almost close to impossible, I only got through it by pure luck.

[@Raikumoproductions3437]

I Honestly understand the Wyvern complaint, but on everything else, that's the point of a game, to get the hang of how it's different play style works out, and once you do, boy it feels really good. Not to mention when you get it right it feels like you never did it wrong 😂

[@rafaeltrindadelau]

Pretty good. NOW DO THE SECOND TOWER. All jokes aside, only the first two towers and the fifth challenge are extremely difficult IMO. Everything else was fine.

[@LobotomyTC]

You can cheese a lot of them though. I am in love with the skinny platforms and box puzzles they threw in. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I think they're charming. Almost like little Sonic 06 hub world missions you don't have to wait until the heat death of the universe to load in.

[@turboqueer666]

It IS hard but I'm not complaining. You're right. You need to use the full extent of Sonic's capabilities and fully understand what he is able to pull off. It's not "left to right" as people have complained about for years. If you've played Sonic Adventure 1 or 2 then this should be cakewalk. Again, it is in fact very difficult. Definitely a serious challenge on hard mode but that's why it's so good. Great video!

[@DragonOfTheNorth7799]

I love difficulty. This update was amazing in every corner! The game is now my favorite of all time🥳🎉

[@AnimationDude_]

"TOO EASY, BAD GAME" *Adds Difficulty* "TOO HARD, BAD GAME" Critics find any way to hate on something as long as it has Sonic in it

[@fiestafool658]

Someone posts and moans about the difficulty spike everyday in the Sonic frontiers Reddit

[@sonicfighter64]

This right here is a perfect example of why some people need too git gud cause I swear sonic fans do nothing but complain

[@derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut]

That tower is too fucking tall

[@pokefanmelody]

and like, legit... if you dont want the difficulty, theres... difficulty settings for a reason? it adds so many homing targets that 90% of the work is holding forward and spamming a, and the other 10% is occasionally turning the camera to face the next homing target

[@elbasado481]

Literally just get good

[@sonicsonicthehedgehog3164]

Is your sonic jump a mod or is it like an upgrade for completing smth in the game

[@LobotomyTC]

Alternate Jump Ball on gamebanana

[@TylerJ_2008]

woah, how do you get the graphics like that?

[@LobotomyTC]

Trailer LUTs on Gamebanana. It changes the tone map to something much closer to what the pre-release version of the game had. I also downsample at 5120x2880, turn off FSR and Antialiasing, use forced lighting codes, like removing the shadow limit, so shadows can properly stretch, the code for disabling low poly distance models, and maybe one or two other things. Most of it is that LookUp Table mod though.

[@hipersonicrace]

All my problems have been the fact that im just dog shit

[@LobotomyTC]

I understand.

[@sourlab]

Some ppl arecway too angry over the difficulty you asked for it some are kinda dumb but i just said it yall asked for this

[@Jeatkid]

Why did you add the RE5 filter?

[@LobotomyTC]

It's (close to) the original tone mapping for the game. Beta Lighting and Trailer LUTs on GameBanana. Also it looks better.

[@no-cm5yq]

I really wanna try the trials, but i hate the knuckles and tails.... they dont play that well to me

[@ninjacat4088]

Are you using mods? It looks like you have sonic movie boost without full rings

[@LobotomyTC]

It's the Alternate Jump Ball mod.

[@Natezilla_2]

You do know that the power boost becomes permanent when speed is at max level, right?

[@DJAYEXISTS]

I wasnt really hoping to see rhea towers make a return cuz they were always awful and there are some flaws with this update but all in all playable characters solo anyway

[@Onaterdem]

Wasn't this like the easiest tower lol

[@g10viwho70]

All of them are lol

[@g10viwho70]

Whit all the freedom moment and controls give you tho

[@Onaterdem]

@@g10viwho70 #2 was the worst by far

[@Handepsilon]

​@@Onaterdemi had no problem with #2. It's the 4th one for me

[@cobiguy]

@@g10viwho70that’s just wrong bro

[@Amsel_616]

What mods do you hace on?

[@LobotomyTC]

Trailer LUTs and the Alternate Spin Ball mod. I also have the hitstop code enabled, as well as most of the graphics enhancement ones.

[@ariellarose9410]

I see you have failed to include the tower trials, specifically the titan battles. Please show us noobs how it's done, if you would be so kind.

[@LobotomyTC]

I do be kinda wanting to record some nice 5k footage of those bosses. Maybe I will, but if you think I'm going to do flawless runs you're out of your fuckin mind lmao.

[@ariellarose9410]

@@LobotomyTC oh no I don't think you will, I just thought since it was the main problem with the difficulty changes. Even on easy mode it's a pain

[@MrSuperSonic1108]

2 words. skill issue

[@mepzerok]

Meanwhile you play through the easiest tower in the game

[@LobotomyTC]

I just hit record when I was next to a tower. This isn't even a good run, it was a first re-attempt.

[@serpiefairorg]

Finally, someone says it! They’re not hard! Most of the people just do not know patience or feel like they constantly have to go fast.

[@Hynotama]

You mean like the series conditioned us to do since Sonic 3?

[@break-beat-sonic]

​@@HynotamaAh yes, because the only thing you do in all Sonic games is press forward

[@KirbyThePuffball]

I like how the title text is in UwU with a bunch of W's everywhere, In fact, the UwU text is a mod which replaces some of the text to have W's in them making it UwU text.

[@LobotomyTC]

I can't tell if this was written by a bot or not lmao.

[@KirbyThePuffball]

It's not

[@SHSLRuby]

Mod list?

[@LobotomyTC]

late to this, but here you go: Island Tweaker, Improved Ambient Lighting, Subsurface Scattering Fix, Misc. Visual Fixes, Graphics Enhancement, PRM Rings, Cyber Ghost Removed Playable Edition, Trailer LUTs, Reimagined Platforms, Free Fall Code, Boost Blur Fix, Tracker's Physics (Not used in this video IIRC, but it's one of my favorites.), Sonic Frontiers DevToos, Lower Camera, Fallen Fleet, Sonic Model Edit, Alternate Jump Ball + Trail, Playable Amy, Tails and Knuckles, Character Normalizer. I have way more codes enabled than I do mods, but if you want those, I can tell you what I have enabled as well.

[@SHSLRuby]

@LobotomyTC Please do, thank you! And no worries on being late

[@Ardun_]

Goes to the easiest tower

[@LobotomyTC]

They're all easy.

[@Tropelulu]

Its not hard, its just cant work normal

[@LobotomyTC]

This is normal. Taking your time is abnormal.

[@abra_escaped]

The first tower relied on a lot of boost launches that were seemingly designed around the non power boost speed, which made it a lot harder. The other towers are pretty fine in terms of difficulty. For the trials themselves the first two were super difficult and then the other two are incredibly easy. Haven't done the fifth one yet (edit: wow that's unfair, spent a couple hours attempting it and didn't do it even on easy). Bosses just feel like they have too much hp even with max attack stat. Other than those points I'm having a lot of fun with the update! Also wow the game looks so much better here than on xbox one

[@break-beat-sonic]

For al the comments, Get Good

[@shahmindrrathanabal]

Ik ppl be stoobid frfr

[@LobotomyTC]

frfr ong actually bussin I give it a skibidi/10

[@soobymsn1260]

What is with this breaking bad color grading

[@LobotomyTC]

What the game was intended to look like. Beta Lighting and Trailer LUTs on GameBanana. Beta Lighting is what it says it is, the original lighting from the games files, re-enabled. Trailer LUTs is a close approximation of the tone mapping from the games trailers and pre-announcement demos.

[@KevX36]

OK, the difficulty is ether UNFAIR. evidence: unless you do one combo fast without messing up, you WILL fail the snake trial on easy. Or a joke like the following 2 trials. Also, the first tower is harder. Don't act like you're good by doing the easiest tower. You may be better than me, but platforming isn't most of the hard parts it's the trials so show that if you want to make a point.

[@LobotomyTC]

Nah, I'm just gonna keep unapologetically unfairly showcasing all the stuff I like and mock people for complaining about the shitty parts for two reasons. 1. Sonic Twitter is full of 50 IQ vegetables who are attacking my husband Morio Kishimoto by bombing his LinkedIn and I want those people seething, coping, malding, and toasterbathing every single day. 2. there is no 2 For real, this is not serious at all, don't be mad on the internet, unless you're Sonic Twitter.

[@KevX36]

@@LobotomyTC yeah you've got a point. Think I was just blinded by my rage at the snake trial. Have a good day

[@Sryloth]

i mean this update is just other way for sega to show off the middle finger to those who are not playing this game 24/7

[@-__-4919]

More like a middle finger to those who literally asked for the game to be harder.

[@LobotomyTC]

Back in my day, this is what video games were always like. Difficult, sometimes even unfair. I like it, it's got panache. Nintendo should try it one day.

[@break-beat-sonic]

So, Sega said "Git Gud casual"

[@jordanjones3850]

Congrats on beating the easiest tower that no one failed on😂

[@LobotomyTC]

Congrats on the original comment! I'll go ahead and throw it on the pile with the rest. Thank you for reading the room!

[@jordanjones3850]

@@LobotomyTC seems I struck a nerve... sorry but what did u expect when u made a title like that and then chose that of all towers🤣

[@LobotomyTC]

@@jordanjones3850 It's the most fun one.

[@NominalDingus]

Sorry most of us know where oxygen comes from

[@-__-4919]

You don't need to reject your IRL social life to get better in a platform game 💀

[@LobotomyTC]

Oxygen comes from gosh, obviously. He made everything. Now go and worship church or D's gonna send you to H.

[@LobotomyTC]

@@-__-4919 Yeah dawg they're literally the easiest video games.

[@Eevee860]

It's not that it's too hard, it's that it's garbage unfair design, harder games are fine, I love games like hollow knight and mega man, but in those games if you mess up it's your fault, not the game's fault like in the final horizon

[@LobotomyTC]

It's only the boss rush and final boss. The rest of the game is git gud. 99% of the platforming is your fault.

[@Eevee860]

@@LobotomyTC The platforming with sonic is trash, you can't lower your speed for platforming designed not to use the max ring/max level speed boost, and they require you use the broken spindash that controls horribly, also the cyberspace levels, especially the one based on white forrest, suck, that one in particular drops the platforms before you can even land on them and really exemplifies the big problem with just copy pasting non-boost level design to a boost game, the honey highway one is almost just as bad, all the sonic sections in the dlc are garbage and unfair and no amount of "get good" changes how objectively bad the design is, the snake trial literally requires you abuse a flaw in the combat system

[@LobotomyTC]

@@Eevee860Hey, you're entitled to your opinion, but I disagree with most of them (save for one really important one, which is cyberspace). As far as I can tell, the new Cyberspace stages don't even have the same physics model that the base game used. You're right, though, in cyberspace, specifically, your midair control is fucking dumb. It would be *okay* if that's how the whole game played, because it would at least be consistent. But that lack of consistency is the problem. Super disagree with your spindash take. That being said, I had absolutely 0 problems with any cyberspace stage in the update. Once you're used to it, it's fine. Those levels aren't perfect, a lot of them aren't even good, but if you can't beat them, well, git gud skill issue etc. They really aren't that hard, even if a handful are frustrating. The Open Zone Physics are 10/10 though and you can't change my mind on that. EDIT: Decided to be less rude. I need to catch myself when I'm a dick for no reason.

[@IdiotMayCry]

And when I thought Kirby and the forgotten land was hard around the end of the game on Wild Mode 💀

[@samarius_art_and_games]

Just because there's some fun skips doesn't mean the game isn't unfairly difficult.

[@pufflord_gamesonicsoloesyo2365]

🤣

[@Tr4yst3r]

Smells like copium

[@Xenoforce456]

Only thing unfair was the boss rush. Everything else is a matter of skill.

[@samarius_art_and_games]

@@Tr4yst3r I'll have you know that I did most of the challenges without parrying. While the tower climbs were only annoying, the actual trials, especially two and five, were unfairly difficult. It would have been one thing if the base games difficulty were curved up to prepare us for this kind of challenge, but it wasn't. It expected is to do all of this in a sudden burst of difficulty instead of finding ways to acclimate the player beforehand. While I did enjoy this DLC, even I understand why everyone is saying this is harder than it should be.

[@elray1331]

I love how, instead of arguing about the dubious level design of the towers, they prefer to cross out everyone who complains about having skill issue

[@Rusty_Spy]

platforming is still mid