True, I do sometimes use it to organize in that manner in various games. Other times I'm just looking for areas below market access, but this is arguably just making it take more time. I think It's because I'm still remembering the older UI layouts we had back in 1.0 and 1.1, or it could be muscle memory after playing for several thousand hours.

Right? They don't need that much compared to everyone else! Though this is why I strongly emphasize employing peasants into non-peasant jobs to grow your economy, as just by changing jobs their goods demand will increase notably.

Indeed, it’ll be a wonderful day when that arrives.

Sounds painful!

@@NEF-Official you could remove the overpopulation debuff!

True! I had gone Multiculturalism to reduce any radicalism or secessionist problems, but cultural exclusion would've worked better overall since fully accepted pops don't assimilate.

I think it did crash at least once on me, but surprisingly it held steady and only saw drops on performance as time went on. It could be due to the PC I have tbh.

These are all good tips! Although I do have a few reasons for doing what I did: 1) Minting is capped by the game in vanilla, at a certain GDP threshold in the hundreds of millions you stop gaining more minting. 2) I purposefully wasn’t using diesel pumps or electric saws at this point since I still had their respective resources to exploit and make jobs out of. Essentially I was prioritizing job creation over actually resolving resource prices! 3) This is true! Although the idea with fig orchards was to make more sugar for more groceries on top of making the necessary grain. Although the price of sugar collapsed in the end unexpectedly, and sooner or later I’d likely have to remove fig orchards if my game continued for long enough. 4) I do love state traits! Such as the iron bonus in Perm for example or the bonus to the sulfur mines of Sicily. Parts of India and China enjoy agriculture bonuses, etc. Despite all this, thank you for your suggestions! I do like getting ideas on how people play differently from me and also on explaining what I did in my game, especially in this case since I don’t record the entire length of it.

Weirdly, yes. Although the overpopulation mechanic was kicking in, which means pop growth would fall behind the global IRL one at some point.

It’s a weird one, but I had to wipe out the TU’s power somehow to prevent solidarity from activating. Not to mention we banned religion and have old age pension, but also outlawed dissent.

Indeed, but the taxes were a necessary requirement and the green budget a sacrifice to ensure high pop growth!

Indeed it is, but this isn’t the first time I’ve tried to do something relatively insane in a game with pops!

Technically the population does grow in HOI4, which would make it relatively possible with enough patience. Although I don’t recall if vanilla HOI4 has any positive modifiers for pop growth beyond its base level.

@NEF-Official Italy has a 2% bonus via focus tree, that is all I know of though

Oh? Interesting! I don’t have all the DLC for HOI4, but it could be fun to glance over the focus trees and see what they have.

Thank you! I do want to make the population number even higher, but the speed is getting pretty low and I’m not certain it’s gonna get any better. But I’ve done this kind of endurance before with Frostpunk 2 in order to cram a million people into the (allegedly) last city on Earth. ^^

Possibly! You’d certainly have trouble running it on a laptop even with low settings, but I’m sure some of the performance issues by this point may be the game engine as well. Not sure.

Truly? Some of the info I’ve found suggested this, others suggested not. Still, good to hear! Though we’d eventually fall behind IRL numbers as the overpopulation mechanic kicked in more if I continued.

Hm, are you sure? Records I’ve read up on, though they could be wrong, say that the population in 1962 was an estimated 3.12 billion. Approximately 4 billion people were reached near the early months of 1973, though I think I would’ve missed this time goal anyway due to growing overpopulation in the game. My information could be wrong though, and either way my pop growth was going to inevitably decrease as overpopulation kicked in! Regardless, I think this is the highest population anyone, with enough stubbornness, has reached in Victoria 3 atm.

Pretty decent I’d say, with an SSD, a Ryzen 7 multi-core CPU, 32 GB of RAM with DDR5, and a 4070 GPU. Granted the GPU sometimes doesn’t even have its fans spinning, and thus I highly doubt graphics are being a performance issue.

@@NEF-Official ddr5 is really good for games like this, theoretically it's preventing crashes and errors that would otherwise exist with the game running on ddr4. I wonder if that would be the case had you tried this same thing using ddr4, or even ddr3. Maybe if pdx allowed this game to use more ram then those of us with a lot of GB wouldn't have such bad performance in the lategame. From what I understand, the reason why is mainly ram and cpu related, but not your own hardware but how pdx designed the game to use it.

That could be rather fun! Though imagine it would bring unique challenges when done in 1836, due to citizenship laws and presumably a lack of incorporated states. You’d probably want to do it as one of the European countries like Britain or France for the sake of tech. At least you wouldn’t have to worry about war or trade!

The true tall gameplay, where it’s both wide and tall at the same time! The game engine doesn’t like it though.

Glad you like the save, and I really should grab a few screenshots then and share them on the community page! I believe city size is largely decided by urban center size, and some are fairly big thanks to the “mega-projects” the private IP insisted on doing. No problem on the spelling/statement correction either! If anything, I insist on viewers pointing out when I mispronounce words! Sometimes the only thing I have to go off of if my own interpretation and it sticks for years until someone corrects me, like with Oligarchy! Thank you for pointing it out! ^^

This is true! I could’ve played Austria instead and gotten the extra 2.5/5% birth rate bonus from the Devout, but I was willing to play the long game and didn’t think about the penalty of overpopulation. Though based on game performance by the 1960s, it was going to be the game engine that began giving up before the PC did.

The Frostpunk 2 post with 1 million people crammed into the (allegedly) last city on earth? Indeed I am!

Right? It can be quite the fun game, and the fact I’ve lost 3k hours (or more) to it really tells you how much I love Victoria 3.

@@NEF-Officiali am still in Vic 2

Right? Though I wish I had gotten it even higher, because I know I can, you can see the game is getting rather slow and that makes it harder to continue!

Indeed it is, whether that's making ridiculously high numbers with stacked modifiers or pushing the game engine to the point of poor/low performance on a good PC.

Thank you for the kind words! Though that’s likely not true, as there are very incredible KZbinrs out there.

Indeed, though it absolutely took some time!

You first need to build the dense housing block in housing districts, then you need to run a shelter deficit for some time before you get an event offering to add the crate design modifier. These will provide +8 shelter per dense housing block, but a later event will cause them to generate tension if you choose to keep the crate design. To note, dense housing blocks are a Merit building specifically.

@ I can’t thank you enough for this! I love this game so much I want to do what you’re doing here.

@ Happy to help! Hope you have fun with it! ^^

Currently I’m working on a video in the background unrelated to Let’s Plays, but it’s on hold as I move into a new house. In fact the last week has been packing, moving, and unpacking! However, for the next Let’s Play series It’ll very likely come down to a new vote with some of the suggestions I’ve already been given. I’m aiming to give those their own unique goals during the vote too, to give people more information to work with this time. Some ideas include Brazil, Qing, Egypt, and a small African country like the Lake Victoria ones or Sokoto.

Ah, I haven’t done a long Qing game (off-camera that is) in awhile. Same with Brazil, I ran an AAR or two for it on the official Victoria Discord server. Both would be interesting new runs, and I can see a good Brazil game going the way of attracting lots of migrants later on. Qing may be obvious, as it’s vast in population with plenty of expansion opportunities for resources. They’re enjoyable!

I’ve done some Qing games before over the course of many Victoria 3 versions! It can be quite fun, though the first two decades is largely a game of catchup with technology and bureaucracy while avoiding a debt trap due to high interest rates. But it’s enjoyable.

I noticed that update! From my early testing the Stimulants still worked globally, but now there’s an event for them when you build too many. Haven’t done a full 1 million pop run for 1.2 due to other games and IRL stuff, but it’s still fun!

Indeed! I’ve played Egypt in past versions of the game, and in 1.8 we could probably utilize a good deal of the systems to really bully the Ottomans early on. I’ll take it under consideration and probably formulate a new poll with descriptions and run goals!

Glad you enjoyed the run, and past ones! As for Spain, it could be quite fun with the direct expansion restriction to curtail direct player power. One question, would the exception be that we could directly control all the European states in the Iberian Peninsula? Presumably colonial territory would also be made up of subjects, or directly conquered and reformed into Subjects! I’ve done some Spanish games before and have an idea of how I’d go about doing them, but I’m always happy to build up a run idea with goals and restrictions/limits.