Clear Contradictions in the Bible, and there are hundreds more. The Bible is filled with lies, contradictions, scientific errors, and pornography!!! Here's a short list of contradictions. 1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel? God did (2 Samuel 24: 1) Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1) 2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel? Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 3. How many fighting men were found in Judah? Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9) Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5) 4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine? Seven (2 Samuel 24:13) Three (I Chronicles 21:12) 5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem? Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26) Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2) 6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9) 7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem? Three months (2 Kings 24:8) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9) 8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8) Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11) 9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before defeating the Philistines or after? After (2 Samuel 5 and 6) Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14) 10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the Ark? Two (Genesis 6:19, 20) Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two pairs went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9) 11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he capture? One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4) Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4) 12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26) Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25) 13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die? Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8) Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1) 14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the temple? Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2) Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16) 15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths? Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26) Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5) 16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how many were the children of Pahrath-Moab? Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6) Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11) 17. How many were the children of Zattu? Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8) Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13) 18. How many were the children of Azgad? One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12) Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17) 19. How many were the children of Adin? Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15) Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20) 20. How many were the children of Hashum? Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19) Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22) 21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai? Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28) One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32) 22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The totals obtained from each book is as follows: 29,818 (Ezra) 31,089 (Nehemiah) 23. How many singers accompanied the assembly? Two hundred (Ezra 2:65) Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67) 24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother? Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2) Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27) 25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem? Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40) No (Joshua 15:63) 26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary? Jacob (Matthew 1:16) Hell (Luke 3:23) 27. Jesus descended from which son of David? Solomon (Matthew 1:6) Nathan(Luke3:31) 28. Who was the father of Shealtiel? Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12) Neri (Luke 3:27) 29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ? Abiud (Matthew 1: 13) Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway. 30. Who was the father of Uzziah? Joram (Matthew 1:8) Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1) 31. Who was the father of Jechoniah? Josiah (Matthew 1:11) Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16) 32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until Christ? Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17) But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see Matthew 1: 12-16) 33. Who was the father of Shelah? Cainan (Luke 3:35-36) Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12) 34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come? Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13) No (John 1:19-21) 35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne? Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32) No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30) 36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals? One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt to Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it. Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and the colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon. 37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ? By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17) His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41) 38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew? By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22) On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided to go to Galilee (John 1:43) 39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead? Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died. No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the point of death. 40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey? Yes (Mark 6:8) No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3) 41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist? Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16) No (Luke 9:9) 42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism? Yes (Matthew 3:13-14) No (John 1:32,33) 43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism? Yes (John 1:32, 33) No (Matthew 11:2) 44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness? If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1) Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John 8:14) 45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day? Yes (Matthew 21:12) No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was very late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17) 46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at once? Yes. (Matthew 21:19) No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20) 47. Did Judas kiss Jesus? Yes (Matthew 26:48-50) No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John 18:3-12) 48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial? The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times (John 13:38) Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark 14:30) . When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed. 49. Did Jesus bear his own cross? Yes (John 19:17) No (Matthew 27:31-32) 50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn? Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38) No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud voice, said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)

No. But ALL Christians are irrational when it comes to their core beliefs.

20 minutes in and all that has been said, on repeat, is "well if there is or isn't logic it presupposes god!" without any explanation as to why exactly that is. It's also of note this kind of language you hear from so called "apologists" about having "bullseyes" upon which they can "attack their atheism." It's pretty transparent that there is a childish emotional difficulty with wrestling with Descartes' demon and having to "win" against ambivalence; a childish frustration with that fact that knowledge can be defined in a way so that humans cannot be absolutely certain of anything. No normal person goes about their life thinking in the terms of the convoluted, circular, and unsubstantiated "philosophy" of Van Til. The fact that there is a niche sect of Christians who pretend to understand it out of desperation to "own" the atheists who they really couldn't care less about converting speaks volumes to their mental fragility and pettiness.

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Looks like I missed this, but I have a question. What Bible verse do you find to be the most challenging or upsetting, and what are some of your thoughts about that verse? Assuming that you find at least one Bible verse concerning, that is. I've got plenty of issues of my own with the book, as an atheist, but im always curious what believers find to be the most troubling about it from their perspective, if anything.

The atheist's views are the same as mine. No "believer" in God truly is a believer. They pretend to believe in the off chance that it's real and that they can fool God into believing that they bought it

That was a fake caller if I ever heard one. An atheist wouldn't talk like that. That was a well orchestrated call designed to trap the caller. Call ins on The Line or the Atheist Experience are 100x (real) more difficult for the Christian and generally last longer and in the process the Christian learns how difficult it is to prove God through an open dialogue. The intrinsic value of trying to debate with an atheist is logic and reason.

I reckon that for most Christians, there will always be another group which calls itself "Christian" but which they deny are Christian. Given this, those so called "Christians" will likewise see themselves as the true Christians and these finger pointers as fake Christians. Since the beginning of the faith, Christianity has been and continues to be notorious for this. So you are all fake Christians according to some other Christians, somewhere, at some time.

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1. We don't have reasonable evidence of any gods. Look up any argument for god, and alongside the argument you'll find a description of exactly why it's illogical (often these errors are called "fallacies"; just a fancy name for a logic error). 2. If you disagree, feel free to be the first theist on Earth to present *strong, logical evidence of a god.* 3. So the entire idea appears to be a falsehood that spreads by appealing to people in various ways (confirmation bias, illogical arguments, appealing to emotions in the form of our fear of death, etc). 4. Now I think most theists genuinely believe in it. So in that respect they aren't "fake". They really do think it's true. I suspect many of the higher religious leaders understand it's wrong, because if you engage the idea long enough you learn those mistakes (mentioned in point 1) and realize _there's nothing left._ There isn't a single _good_ argument for a god's existence. So these leaders (who again probably aren't _all_ religious leaders) sometimes leave their position, but often stay. Why? Sometimes because they just commit to making money off converting people. But other times because they _would_ leave the religion but they're heavily invested in this particular career and don't know what else they might do (so they keep at it). 5. So it's only "fake" in the sense that the idea *fails to appear true.* We don't have evidence of a god. Some people say a god exists, and one of the most common arguments for a god existing doesn't even conclude with a god (cosmological arguments often conclude with "the universe has a cause"; a cause; not a god.)

20 years as an atheist, and it's fake, and everyone is pretending is his main argument. Wow, he didn't grow much from his non-belief. Very sad.

How do you work out if there is no evidence for God? Easy religion is clearly a human invention. We can see Mormonism, Seventh Day Adventism, Scientology and the Heavenly Kingdom being invented in real time. So people invent Gods and religion which are false. Is there anything about Christianity which seems divine? In this lets not look at what people say but conduct. Can it be said that Christians have a series of objective morals? Slavery was seen as fine in the seventh century and then for another thousand years. Then Christians decided it was not fine. How about persecuting Jews? Jews were made second class citizens in Christian society, precluded from owning property and driven out of counties. Now this is seen as Now this is clearly seen as bad. How about the Bible? is the section which says that rebellious male children should be killed without trial seen as okay? No country believes that is a good law. How about executing young girls who have sexual experience? No Christian country wants to do that anymore. So Christianity is free of moral insight with a holy book which has sections which are seen as barbaric by Christians. Clearly Christianity is a man made religion

Interesting conversation. 🧐 Good work brother.

You're forcing him to take your presuppositions by admitting there is such a thing as being born again, lol. The problem with just focusing on winning an argument with cheap playground tactics is, it lacks depth of compassion and graciousness in attempting to reach the lost.

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It's very odd to bring up all this "born again" and "born from above" jargon and then run a no-true-Scotsman fallacy to accuse an ex-Christian or never having been a "real" Christian in the first place! Joel doesn't seem to grasp that the ability to *revise* one's beliefs is actually okay - that way we can update our satnavs to correspond with the actual roads, rather than petulantly insist that the actual roads *must be wrong* if they don't correspond with our outdated map which *must be right* ! I mean, you _can_ sit in a river preaching that you're _really_ on the highway because "the map says so", but the only people who'll take you seriously will be the other river-folk with water flooding into their cars. If you want to pretend _to each other_ that you're NOT getting wet and you're _really_ on a road because the map *must be right* , then ... whatever ... but expecting anyone looking at you from dry land to think the same shows a spectacularly myopic view! "If they leave us, they were never really of us" is just virtue-signalling to the other people in the river and telling them that they're not _REALLY_ getting wet, and their outdated map that led them into the water is just fine! 🤣