Jesus, Empire & the Cost of Justice
10:28
12 сағат бұрын
Oversharing: Question and Response
10:01
14 сағат бұрын
Intimacy and Risk
19:54
16 сағат бұрын
Attention Can Change the Story
21:48
14 күн бұрын
What Does Aionios Really mean?
9:35
14 күн бұрын
Intention & (Artificial) Intelligence
24:53
And few will find it...
3:54
Ай бұрын
Advent Pregnancies
25:01
Ай бұрын
Judgement: Question and Response
8:49
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@Riff_Rebel
@Riff_Rebel Күн бұрын
An SG guitar for worship!? Love it I was crazy enough to use a Flying V guitar for worship because of the whammy bar and that week we needed one 😂
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Күн бұрын
Classic 58 Korina V 👌
@cashed-out2192
@cashed-out2192 5 күн бұрын
He was created to defeat Michael and his angels in heaven. He was created by Lucifer. When that failed, dragon, Satan, and his angels all fell from heaven. Never to return again. Where did the dragon go, if Satan fell to the earth, along with his angels? The dragon wounded up in China. Where the dragon is revered. The dragon is still Satan's power. Satan wants his dragon back and has plans for his return. That is why he hates China and wants to see China in a war for the return of his powerful dragon. Satan, as you know has been in prison for a 'thousand' years. Powerless. Without the red dragon, that is now in China's possession.
@tetelestaitv237
@tetelestaitv237 6 күн бұрын
Amen and glory
@ccone4991
@ccone4991 7 күн бұрын
It is amazing to se a pastor tell a bold face lie..
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 7 күн бұрын
🤷‍♂️
@Mordechai_Tennenbaum
@Mordechai_Tennenbaum 7 күн бұрын
Praised be The Scapegoat of all human scapegoating follies, Laudetur Jesus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria!
@nicolasgarcia9199
@nicolasgarcia9199 8 күн бұрын
Came from "Paul and homosexuality" short video, and to be honest it sounds horribly wrong until I came to see this video. Now I can see where you are coming from and why you think this way. I appreciate you for finishing with "take this with grain of salt and it's my opinion". Paul had said this too where it is of HIS OPINION like "better be celibate than marry". Sincerely, I don't think God supports gay lifestyle, because it wasn't His original intended design, that's why it's a sin. Same can be said for fornicators, also not of God's intended design. Sex is to be a gift after marriage, and a cherry on top, procreation. Experience what its like to be father just like He is our Father, becoming a husband just like He is to the church. ALL of us came from ancestors nearly 6,000 years ago, if one of our ancestors decided to become gay and did not procreate, thousands year of generations would never have existed. All those relationships that God could have with are lost. He is God of Living. The biggest question, are gay people who believe in Christ and struggle with their lifestyle until they die saved? I would assume yes. What about gay people who embrace gay lifestyle and believe in Christ, I don't know the answer to that. It is like serving two masters.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 7 күн бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate the comment. One thought, though, you said if one of our ancestors decided not to procreate, thousands of generations would be lost. That’s true, but then, that’s also precisely the advice that Paul gave us. It’s better to remain single than to marry and procreate.i think there is more nuance to these conversations than we may realize at first reading.
@nicolasgarcia9199
@nicolasgarcia9199 7 күн бұрын
@commonschurch Paul said this was of his opinion... like you said this was your opinion.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely. I’m not claiming to speak for God. It’s just that the argument from procreation doesn’t hold up well when compared to Paul’s teachings on sexuality. Procreation is certainly part of God‘s design for humanity. Without it, we wouldn’t be here. And I think you could even say it’s a normative part of human sexuality. But to make it a necessity for a healthy marriage is untenable.
@nicolasgarcia9199
@nicolasgarcia9199 7 күн бұрын
@commonschurch I am going to be honest with you. I know many gay people are incredibly thoughtful and friendly, but very small percentage of them believe in God. Most of them have wild lifestyle. I think its difficult for them to let go of wild lifestyle. That's why I think promoting their lifestyle is dangerous. One gay told me how straight party and gay party are different. He said guys in straight party could hold long conversations while gay party, everybody had a short span of attention. I assume because of sexuality involved. Just sharing, not making stereotype remarks.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 7 күн бұрын
I can’t speak to your friend’s observations but even in those cases I would counsel against the licentiousness that can be prevalent in both gay and heterosexual communities and encourage a more healthy attitude toward sex and partnership.
@nicolasgarcia9199
@nicolasgarcia9199 8 күн бұрын
I think 1 Cor also said don't be deceived, drunkards, fornicators, homosexuals, etc will not inherit God's Kingdom. Respectfully, don't you think it's predatory to encourage children to be injected with hormone changers and go through transitions? God made them to be who they are, and they decide (or were influenced) that they didn't like who they are and want to be of a different gender. An implication that God must have made a mistake.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 8 күн бұрын
I think you’re conflating sexual orientation with gender identity. Even though they are often held together those are really two separate conversations.
@nicolasgarcia9199
@nicolasgarcia9199 8 күн бұрын
@commonschurch Not a separate conversation. It is gay lifestyle going further changing his own body. Changing hormones, removing body parts, and adding body parts. Harming own body to satisfy flesh desires. People have right to do that because of free will, but to say that it's not sinful lifestyle is bold.
@BlakeReed18
@BlakeReed18 9 күн бұрын
Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 are all to the Jews, and describing the 7 year Great Tribulation. Jesus told the Jews that he would not return until they asked/begged for him. Matthew 23:39 - “for I say to you (the Jews), you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’ ” You cannot mix the church/gentiles with the Jews/Israel. The church will be raptured before the great tribulation, and there's no precursor, it is imminent. The earth is 6,000 years old and about to go into the 1,000 year blessing, this timeline mirrors God spending 6 days on creation and resting on the 7th. We are at the end of the church age and approaching the fullness of the gentiles for the rapture to take place. The part in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 referring to, look up your redemption draws near, is the second coming at the end of the tribulation. The tribulation will complete 2 things: 1. It is to prove to the Jews that Jesus was and is the messiah, and for them to believe in Him. Zachariah 12:10 2. For Jesus to enact the title deed to Earth taking possession of the earth back from Satan. Remember when Jesus was in the desert for 40 days and the devil offered him the kingdoms of the Earth, Jesus didn't say those aren't yours to offer, because satan DOES have possession of the earth (Ephesians 6:12). Matthew 4:8-9 - Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” The scroll with 7 seals in Revelation, is the same little book from Daniel that he was told to seal up until 'The End' (Daniel 12:4 - 'But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase.'), that scroll/little book/title deed to Earth is what Jesus received when he was crucified and rose from the dead. It is what He is waiting to enact at the end of the church age, and the fullness of the gentiles, and Jesus will use it in the great tribulation to take possession of the world back. Here is the verse where Jesus takes possession of the earth back from the devil in the Tribulation... Revelation 11:15 - Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
@elmerfudd2402
@elmerfudd2402 9 күн бұрын
"Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins." Hebrews 9:22 "For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." 2 Cor. 5:21
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 9 күн бұрын
If you keep reading in Hebrews, you’ll find out that the blood of bulls and goats was never actually able to take away sins. The whole point of that section is comparing the sacrificial system, with the actually saving work of Christ. Jesus was not just another death in a long list of blood sacrifices he was something altogether new and divine.
@elmerfudd2402
@elmerfudd2402 9 күн бұрын
Interesting, none of these assertions are defended with scripture.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 9 күн бұрын
That’s because this particular section of the talk was primarily dealing with the historical development of the theological position of penal substitutionary atonement. A theory that was developed long after the Bible.
@elmerfudd2402
@elmerfudd2402 6 күн бұрын
Just visited your "church's" website and found out that you also ignore scripture on the matter of God's design and commands regarding human sexuality. Please, for your own benefit, repent and believe the true, biblical gospel.
@amandasmith8824
@amandasmith8824 10 күн бұрын
Amen. thank God for honesty and transparency. The bible gives so much, and the answers our hard questions
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 14 күн бұрын
14:30 Good gref, what would happen f every letter dsappeared, t would be dffcult to wrte anythng ...
@patrickwagner2978
@patrickwagner2978 15 күн бұрын
“Our problem is not - are our desires satisfied or not? Our problem is - how do we know what to desire?” [Slavoj Zizek]
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 15 күн бұрын
Zizek is a big fan of Girard :)
@patrickwagner2978
@patrickwagner2978 15 күн бұрын
@@commonschurch What C S Lewis also found so compelling was "the true myth: namely, the notion that a story can be both factual or historical or otherwise real and maintain its imaginative value as a story. Lewis and Girard seem to have led quite parallel educational lives?
@jejjej8173
@jejjej8173 17 күн бұрын
Unbelievable that people still buy into this BS in 2024, but I guess philosophy, anthropology, history and physics are too hard for the average person to even attempt to understand. Btw the Bible explicitly says that women shouldn’t talk in church lol
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 17 күн бұрын
I wonder if the study of philosophy might help us to understand how religious texts are received and the meaning negotiated by communities.
@DGK284
@DGK284 18 күн бұрын
I want to believe your interpretation, but I'm nagged by the fact that the scholars of the various Bible translation committees (NASB, NIV, ESV, etc) chose the word "eternal." Why is that? As someone who doesn't know Greek, I'm reluctant to accept that the many translations that have been through the fire of informed peer review are just wrong. Surely these translators understand the nuances of context and are doing their best to choose the closest English match. Some universalists prefer "age enduring" in this context, but I wonder if this is driven more by desire than sound textual considerations.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 18 күн бұрын
All translations are expressions of theology. The universalist and the infernalist ones alike.
@DGK284
@DGK284 18 күн бұрын
@@commonschurch Thanks for the response. I don't think that we can sweep away the weight of consistency in the major translations by claiming uniform bias among so many scholars. I would have to know much more about the members of the many translation committees before I would say that their motivations were distorting the accuracy of their translations. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were not "infernalists." Let me stress that my heart is for universal reconciliation, but it's hard to say that the NT offers overwhelming support for it. I would like to see the confident universalist discuss this among a panel of textual critics who spend their careers among ancient manuscripts.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 17 күн бұрын
I'm not suggesting anything malicious. I'm saying there is no such thing as a translation uninfluenced by theology. In that, I'm granting that my interpretive work (both pastoral and academic) is influenced by my larger theological understanding of the teachings of Jesus as well. But as an example, every major bible translation is committed to consistency within the biblical text. That's a theological commitment that will compel/force certain translation choices to minimize contradictory impressions. Also, every major biblical translation is copyrighted. Which means it has been financed with an eye toward sales and sales largely depend on fidelity to certain theological commitments. Hence why the EVS was able to raise the sales ranks so quickly. Another angle might be to see how early church fathers and readers understood the texts. Particularly the Greek fathers who were reading the original texts and not the later Latin translations. Universalism: The Prevailing Doctrine of the Christian Church During Its First Five Hundred Years, with Authorities and Extracts, John Wesley Hanson. Pantianos Classics, 1899. Is one good resource.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 17 күн бұрын
"It's hard to say that the NT offers overwhelming support for" universalism. I think you're absolutely right. Some verses seem to suggest universalism, others torment, and others annihilation. If we're honest, the Bible, Hebrew and NT Scriptures, present a varied approach to death and judgment, and we have to trust in the answer that seems best to represent the heart of God revealed in Jesus.
@DGK284
@DGK284 17 күн бұрын
@@commonschurch Thanks for your thoughtful replies. Your top down approach (i.e., Jesus's teachings and life guiding interpretation) seems similar to Robin Parry's. I'm currently revisiting the arguments for and against universalism. I don't expect to move from my current position as a hopeful universalist (I cannot rule out that some, in their freedom, will reject Life), but I would love to be convinced it's true.
@chrisg27
@chrisg27 18 күн бұрын
I listened to all of this and you give an interesting interpretation however respectfully I think this is a contortion of scripture. Aionios can also mean everlasting - that is without end. Especially when reading other scriptures alongside Matthew 24:46 - it is clear some will be tormented forever. Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:41) The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (Revelation 20:10) And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:15) And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt. (Daniel 12:2)
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 18 күн бұрын
Aionios can mean everlasting. But you jumped from Matthew to Revelation to find the meaning when Jesus is directly responding to the disciples question about the Aion where it clearly means age. That seems like a stronger connection to me. That said I did write a book on Revelation called Upside Down Apocalypse if you’re interested :)
@chrisg27
@chrisg27 14 күн бұрын
@@commonschurch All scripture is connected and has the same divine author. We interpret scripture by other scripture. There are multiple witnesses (not only revelation) that confirm some people will be in everlasting torment.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 13 күн бұрын
When we talk about using scripture to interpret scripture, that doesn’t mean that we jump from one passage to another book to find the intent behind a single word. We still read within the context of what is being written. That said, even if you do believe in everlasting torment, that doesn’t necessarily mean this passage is speaking about that.
@johnirish989
@johnirish989 18 күн бұрын
No. You are way too nice. I prefer the to me obvious translation of Aion to be Eon. Words such as eternity eternal everlasting forever and ever do not exist in a properly translated Scripture. The five eons. HUGE difference HUGE truth. Since the flood we have been in the third what Paul called the most wicked eon. Two GOOD eons remain: the 1000 years and the new heavens and earth, after which our Lord abolishes death and everyone is vivified: given life beyond death. God is love and has no fellowship with eternal punishment. The latter demonic doctrine is Satan having fellowship with bible translators. The evil on Islam can't hold a candle to this doctrine.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 18 күн бұрын
Ha “too nice” I’ll take it :) Thanks for watching.
@ahannan9
@ahannan9 18 күн бұрын
Matters who is in your space. Problem isn’t that people are alone. It’s that people only want to associate with people they agree with. Shout over people they disagree with and refuse to look further than the room they’ve pigeonholed themselves in.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 18 күн бұрын
💯 it’s just I think we are much more likely to get a range of perspectives off-line than we are exclusively online.
@ahannan9
@ahannan9 18 күн бұрын
@ I agree. People tend to search for only stuff that validates what they are just wondering about and don’t truly delve into it from multiple sides
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 18 күн бұрын
Part of the problem is that it's not just what we search out, the algorithms are often only showing us what we already agree with 🤨
@elizabethmorton4904
@elizabethmorton4904 19 күн бұрын
You do such great theology, Jeremy! Thank you for pointing out the use of "kolasin"'; it sure makes a big difference. I really like to think of "punishment" as the fire of God's love. God wants us to be completely one with him, but that requires a huge transformation in us, and transformation is painful, as anyone who has undertaken deep therapy will know.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 19 күн бұрын
That's precisely why I prefer discipline or pruning here. Punishment could be rehabilitative but usually we think of it as retributive which is unhelpful.
@DavidNugent-j3b
@DavidNugent-j3b 19 күн бұрын
Irenaeus, Origin, Gregory of Nyssa in fact all of the Cappadocian Fathers would agree with you that it is correctly translated “age” … but they spoke Greek as their native tongue so it was easy for them!
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 19 күн бұрын
When I looked through the Bible for evidence that any writer believed there would be infinite punishment, mk 9.48 (from is 66) and rev 4.11 don't cut it, they're too open to interpretation. It was only mt 25.46. But when I looked up the original Greek and saw aionios, my immediate reaction was, "hold on a minute ..." Even kolasis threw me at first because its used in modern Greek to mean heII. But when I looked it up in a koine dictionary, it basically said "1 pruning 2 chastisement". What the heII!? How come Bible translations are so misleading, not only here but in lots of places? It's really disappointing.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 19 күн бұрын
I think the problem lies in translators, trying to express what they think the passage means and using language that is as unambiguous (to their interpretation) as possible. I don’t think it’s malicious, but I do think it is paternalistic. I would prefer to see translators leave ambiguity in the English, where there is ambiguity in the Greek/Hebrew. As I mentioned in the video, I also think it’s important that there’s consistency within close proximity. Age and eternity are both valid translations for aionios but bouncing between them within one passage means English readers miss out on the connections the writer was obviously trying to make.
@elizabethmorton4904
@elizabethmorton4904 19 күн бұрын
Centuries and centuries of really bad theology, is the answer! Even the best biblical scholars fall prey to it. Also, in creating a new translation for the wide span of the Christian church, they really do pay attention to existing understandings - it doesn't pay them to get too far ahead of those they are leading, because if they do, their translation will be rejected by the people they are trying to reach. There may be a considerable gap between what one of the editorial team personally believes the very best translation is, within his or her own theology, and what he/she thinks is best for the purpose of the final result. Anyway, that's my two cents - I may well be wrong!
@elizabethmorton4904
@elizabethmorton4904 19 күн бұрын
Also, "eternal punishment" isn't wrong - again, it all has to do with semantic range.
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 19 күн бұрын
@@elizabethmorton4904 It's wrong in that "kolasis" usually referred to temporary punishment with a goal in mind, which excludes "aionios" meaning of infinite duration, a second stretch, resulting in an illogical interpretation. It's an unlikely and problematic translation.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 19 күн бұрын
“Eternal” doesn’t necessarily mean ongoing though. It can be aionios like an age in that it has an eternal effect or memory. ie. an eternal destruction could be a final destruction that one cannot return from but it cannot mean an ongoing, never-ending destruction that never actually destroys. That is generally not how we use eternal in English though, so it does have its problems.
@tonecards7995
@tonecards7995 20 күн бұрын
She does not know or even sound like she knows what she is talking about - Kamala’s sister?
@j.a4982
@j.a4982 21 күн бұрын
Can i ask what kind a priest are you please. Do you Actually follow the bible or are you into fairytale and following the world 🌎
@warrioroftheword
@warrioroftheword 21 күн бұрын
The 16:9-10 is authentic and is not a "later tag." 99.8% of the manuscripts contain Mark 16:9-20 Only three don't: Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus and 12 century GA 304 The evidence from the church fathers favors Mark 16:9-20 and is even earlier than the oldest manuscript evidence. The earliest clear evidence for Mark 16:9-20 as part of the Gospel of Mark is in Chapter XLV First Apology of Justin Martyr (c. 160). In a passage in which Justin treats Psalm 110 as a Messianic prophecy, he states that Psalm 110:2 was fulfilled when Jesus' disciples, going forth from Jerusalem, preached everywhere. His wording is remarkably similar to the wording of Mk. 16:20 and is consistent with Justin's use of a Synoptics-Harmony in which Mark 16:20 was blended with Lk. 24:53. Justin's student Tatian (c. 172), incorporated almost all of Mark 16:9-20 into his Diatessaron, a blended narrative consisting of material from all four canonical Gospels. Irenaeus wrote book two of "Against Heresies", when Eleutherius was bishop of Rome (174-189)-at least a century before Vaticanus was produced. There Irenaeus wrote, “Also, towards the conclusion of his Gospel, Mark says, ‘So then, after the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sits on the right hand of God” (3.10.5). Irenaeus’s copy of Mark obviously included Mark 16:9-20, since he is quoting here from Mark 16:19. Bruce Metzger considered this passage to be canonical... "There seems to be good reason, therefore, to conclude that, though external and internal evidence is conclusive against the authenticity of the last twelve verses as coming from the same pen as the rest of the Gospel, the passage ought to be accepted as part of the canonical text of Mark” (Bruce Metzger, “The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origin, Development, and Significance” (p. 270). In Sinaiticus, four replacement pages contain Mark 14:54-16:8 and Luke 1:1-56 which are not written by the scribe of the surrounding pages. It was probably made by the manuscript’s supervisor and proofreader (known as a diorthōtēs). Although initially this copyist wrote at a rate of 635 letters per column, in Luke he drastically compressed his lettering at the rate of 690 letters per column. But near the end of Mark, he did the opposite: he expanded his lettering in the first column of the third page. Without taking this step, after accidentally omitting most of Mark 16:1, the diorthōtēs would have reached the end of v. 8 in this column, leaving the next column blank. But, not wanting to do so, he not only expanded his lettering, but also made the decorative design after 16:8 uniquely emphatic. Short version: It appears that 9-20 was removed from Sinaiticus.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 21 күн бұрын
It's actually ℵ (Sinaiticus; 4th c.) B (Vaticanus; 4th c.) 304 (12th c.) syrs (Syriac Sinaiticus; 4th c.) and copsa (Sahidic = southern Egypt; 4th-5th c.) that end at 16:8 itk (Bobbiensis) Matthew, Mark; ca. 400) has a slghtly longer ending A C D Δ Θ ƒ13 33 Maj all have the traditional longer ending. W has an even longer ending. Or as Comfort says, “The textual evidence for the first reading (stopping at verse 8) is the best. This reading is attested to by ℵ and B (the two earliest extant manuscripts that preserve this portion of Mark) and some early versions (Syriac, Coptic, Armenian, Georgian). Of the church fathers, Clement, Origen, Cyprian, and Cyril of Jerusalem show no knowledge of any verses beyond 16:8. Eusebius said that the accurate copies of Mark ended with verse 8, adding that 16:9-20 were missing from almost all manuscripts (Quaest. Mar. 1 [PG 22:937]). The pericope is also absent from the Eusebian canons. Jerome affirmed the same by saying that almost all the Greek codices did not have 16:9-20.” Philip W. Comfort, New Testament Text and Translation Commentary, (Wheaton: Tyndale House Publishers, 2008), 159. That said, we can't know with a lot of certainty exactly which textual tradition is the oldest, and most Christian traditions include the longer ending as part of the canonical text, even if it was added later. Which is basically what Metzger (and everyone else) is arguing.
@cinnamondan4984
@cinnamondan4984 22 күн бұрын
I doubt we definitively know whether the authors of the epistles were referring to men or both men and women in most instances. I think the NRSVue could have at least left in the footnotes the understanding that the Greek reads as “brothers.” Same with the bit that has been interpreted as condemning people having homosexual relations. Does Paul condemn tops and bottoms…a very literal reading seems to imply that. The idea that he just did not condone homosexuality because he did not know of mutually loving relations between people of the same gender seems like a stretch but I’ve heard this a lot.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 22 күн бұрын
We don't definitely know for sure, and that's why we have to choose what is most likely, given everything we do know about the context and language used.
@cinnamondan4984
@cinnamondan4984 22 күн бұрын
@ We do. But we also need to make other reasonable interpretations available in the footnotes and not just with renderings like “meaning uncertain” as is done in the infamous quote people use to condemn homosexuality.
@DavidNugent-j3b
@DavidNugent-j3b 22 күн бұрын
Irenaeus, Origin, Gregory of Nyssa and many others would completely agree with you brother … preach and teach that truth! The idea of ECT would have the Sermon on the Mount in complete disagreement with the Olivet Discourse …. Jesus would be contradicting himself and that cannot be true. The Father “is perfect” and we are to imitate his perfection because he forgives his enemies not because he tortures them.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 22 күн бұрын
Amen 🙏
@epairoyahushua4314
@epairoyahushua4314 23 күн бұрын
Cut your hair. God bless you 🙌
@blogginglogos8204
@blogginglogos8204 23 күн бұрын
You started off saying atonement is all it is. Then later you said it is an incomplete description.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 23 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I completely understand your comment but I think you are referring to what the word atonement means ie. "at one ment" versus our understanding or theories of what the atonement entails. That is, the word has a very simple meaning but the theory of atonement is quite complex. Does that help?
@elizabethmorton4904
@elizabethmorton4904 24 күн бұрын
Excellent, Jeremy! I needed just this. I wasn't quite grasping how the Giradian view of the atonement comes together, and this helps a lot. Very interesting the gap between the LXX's reading of Isa. 53:10 and the Masoretic. Shows the degree to which the texts were in flux at this time. Makes quite the difference!
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 23 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DanJan09
@DanJan09 26 күн бұрын
Thank you, I think that was the most clear explanation I heard and I think I finally understand the core Idea behind the New Perspective. Now it's time to look into the details :)
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 25 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kathyguinto4585
@kathyguinto4585 26 күн бұрын
What are you Lady,a Misandrist?.You think that all Men are bad?.Well let Me tell you something,that cuts both ways sweetheart!.You clearly hate us men,and we hate you women right back!John M Guinto
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 25 күн бұрын
lol why would you assume someone hates all men becuase they are critical of the bad actions of one man?
@vijaydave8808
@vijaydave8808 26 күн бұрын
The Essence Christ is essentially vegetarian
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 26 күн бұрын
I don't know about that but I'm a vegetarian 🌱
@vijaydave8808
@vijaydave8808 26 күн бұрын
Every one must know that two fishes are symbolic of two destructive planets and five loaves are symbolic of five creative planets .What you hear in private herald it from house tops
@jollyco-op3036
@jollyco-op3036 26 күн бұрын
The argument you are fighting aside, there are things God cannot do. God cannot sin, it is outside his nature. God’s nature does “limit” him in ways, but it is no outside external force that does so, that would be considered greater than God.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 26 күн бұрын
Agreed. Sometimes short clips aren't able to give the entire context. This clip is about limitations on God ability forgive unless certain preconditions are met.
@jollyco-op3036
@jollyco-op3036 25 күн бұрын
@ Thanks for the clarification!
@robertblair2035
@robertblair2035 Ай бұрын
Emmanuel God with us Jesus king of Kings and Lord of Lords He is the way the truth and the life
@TongphoEcha
@TongphoEcha Ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤
@davebolig1989
@davebolig1989 Ай бұрын
I agree. But. He makes it sound kinda accidental. I think this concept is very deliberate. It keeps folks guilty and giving money instead of sheding blood for salvation
@commonschurch
@commonschurch 28 күн бұрын
Gonna be honest, I’m not sure anyone should ever feel guilty for Adam’s sin 🤷‍♂️ Also, I don’t think you meant this but just for clarity, nobody should be shedding any blood for salvation 🤨
@xtusvincit5230
@xtusvincit5230 Ай бұрын
The stole is the sign of a priest. This is stolen authority by a guy who is desperate to appear cool
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Authority should only ever be earned in love. It shouldn’t come with titles or with clothing. Grace and peace.
@KarenKlein-k9t
@KarenKlein-k9t Ай бұрын
not when eve was created differently n each
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Wouldn’t that be one of those contrasts we are talking about?
@yohanesliong4818
@yohanesliong4818 Ай бұрын
Amazing. Thank you
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Lisa_Papez
@Lisa_Papez Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas Commons!!! 🕯
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
And to you as well 🎄
@gustavohawke
@gustavohawke Ай бұрын
I clicked thinking he was gonna talk about the game lol
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
I’m gonna have to try this game I guess 🤷‍♂️
@lanabowers5332
@lanabowers5332 Ай бұрын
Here is the pesher of Rev. 11: 15. At noon on Tuesday, June 23, 44 AD, the trumpet was blown for the last septennium of the Annas jubilee. In the Cathedral at Ephesus, Matthew, speaking for Agrippa the Younger, said, "The western Herodian party in the Diaspora has been founded, under Agrippa the Younger. The associated Christian party under Jesus has been founded at the same time. Agrippa the Younger is head of celibate communities and will have the title of Agrippa II". ///Here is the pesher of Rev. 12: 1-.5. (1)-- At midnight beginning Friday, March 19, 6AD, Joseph the David crown prince & acolyte, stood on the platform in the Qumran vestry, & Mary, taking the place of Elizabeth as initiator of Gentiles, was vested by the 12 year old John the Baptist, whose father Zechariah had just been killed. Elizabeth was with the excluded at the north of the vestry, in mourning. Mary wore an ascetic's headband and a circlet with the emblem of Joseph. (2)-- Mary went to the space at the north of the vestry, where Gentiles as outsiders were taught. She preached to prepare them for membership. She enacted their entry to membership as 'birth'. (3)-- Joazar Boethos the high priest came to the platform. He took the chair as Pharisee High Priest of the nationalist triarchy, one who gave initiation to proselytes. He kept the uncircumcised down at Grade 10. On his headband was the emblem of a Pharisee who gave only non-celibate initiations. (4)-- He then took the uncircumcised Gentile admitted by Joseph down to the Queen's House, forbidding him to come closer to the Qumran buildings. He laicised Joseph. As Mary, at 3 am, began the ceremony at which the 12 year old Jesus was to be separated from his mother, the Pharisee stood in the place of the levite, & after the 1st part of the ceremony declared that Jesus was illegitimate. (5)-- But at the same hourJoazar ceased to be high priest, Jesus became the legitimate heir, and was hailed as the potential Messiah. Joseph was permitted to return to Qumran, where he was to be head of the Herodian school for Gentiles under Egyptian discipline. At 4 am Jesus came under monastic rules, & was taken up to Qumran to be presented to Ananus the Elder, the new Saduccee high priest. He was taken into the vestry to stand before the platform. /// I will now claify some terminology. 'WOMAN'-- A woman who was or was acting in the position of Chief Woman in the community. In Rev. 12: 1, it was Mary acting in the position of her superior Elizabeth the wife of Zechariah who had just been killed. 'MOON'-- A person, the female partner of 'the Sun'. As the Sun was the high priest Michael, his wife Elizabeth, the Chief Woman, who acted as 'Mother' to Gentiles, was the Moon. When Mary was 'clothed with the sun', she was being vested by John the Baptist. When the moon was under her feet', she was replacing Elizabeth as Chief Woman. 'MOURNING'-- A short term Nazarite vow, taken by married persons, male & female, in which they separated from society. The 'crown of 12 stars'-- In verse 1, Mary wore 'a crown of Star 12', Joseph. He, as the David, was called 'Star 12' when taking part in monthly prayers. 'LABOR'-- The ascetic discipline of a Saduccee. 'GIVE BIRTH'-- To give first initiation ro a 12 year old boy, or full initiation to a man at the age of 23. 'DRAGON'-- Pseudonym for Pharisee High Priests. Joazar Boethos in 6 AD was in a nationalist triarchy of Dragon (Priest), Calf (Prophet) and Beast (King). 'RED'-- A non-monastic priest officiating in the west only. In verse 3, it was Joazar Boethos. Red was the color for Autumn, equal to 6pm, & the west, the season for the main orthodox Jewish festivals. 'HEAD'-- A headband worn around the upper forehead on an ascetic, containing the letters showing the grade. 7 heads or 'Head 7' was a headband with the letter for 7 worn by a priest or Scribe of the circumcision party who initiated proselytes to Grade 7. 'HORN'-- 'Horn 10' (10 horns) meant the man who kept uncircumcised Gentiles down at Grade 10. In verse 3, it was Joazar Boethos. 'TAIL'-- The colored banner indicating the season used by the visiting priest. 'THIRD'-- The first of 3 divisions, those of fee paying Gentiles, who advanced to initiation, paying a denarious in 3 installments. 'THROWING DOWN'-- The outer hall ofthe Qumran monastery, to which excluded members were 'thrown down'.
@elizabethmorton4904
@elizabethmorton4904 Ай бұрын
Jeremy, I hung out at Commons Church some 8 or 9 years ago, and I remember you talking about Girard back then. For decades I've resisted hearing what Girard had to say because I heard him proposing yet another grand theory that would supposedly explain the whole of human culture, and when I get a whiff of that I just stop listening. Serendipity has brought me back to his ideas, and it looks like his theology is just what I've always wanted! This is a big thing for me - I've got a lot of work to do! Thank you for this video series, it's a great place for me to start learning. And Merry Christmas to you! A theology that actually works is a wonderful Christmas present for me! Elizabeth Morton
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
It's so good to hear from you. Merry Christmas :) One of the criticisms of Girard has always been that he is too ambitious and his theories too modern in their attempts to systematize everything. It's a valid critique. But I've always like his response, “Theories are expendable. They should be criticized. When people tell me my work is too systematic, I say, 'I make it as systematic as possible for you to be able to prove it wrong.’”
@JeffPryor
@JeffPryor Ай бұрын
SE LAH ARES is The DRagon CADMUS THE GREAT
@jladybugaboo
@jladybugaboo Ай бұрын
God bless all those who have been praying for him
@palavraespiritoepoder6233
@palavraespiritoepoder6233 Ай бұрын
Here is something that God CANNOT DO: "That by two immutable things, in which IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO LIE, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us" Hebrews 6:18
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Is that verse saying that some rule or higher power prevents God from lying or that God will not lie because God is good? There is a difference between saying God “cannot” do something because it is against God’s character and God cannot do something because God is prevented from doing it.
@palavraespiritoepoder6233
@palavraespiritoepoder6233 Ай бұрын
My response is to the quote: “as soon as you say - God cannot - it doesn’t matters what comes after that; you have now created a new, larger, more powerful god, that seats above God and gives rules to God in witch God haves to follow”. There are things that God HAVE TO DO, and things that he CANNOT DO, not because someone is forcing Him, but because He will not operate outside his nature and character. But that doesn’t nullify the fact that God have or cannot do things. Or, in others words, He is obligated to do, or not to do what is against His nature. So if someone says: “God cannot receive you as sons if He doesn’t deal with the Death that came through sin.” The person is not creating a new God, he is stating the fact of how God would act in order to be truthful to His nature.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Fair enough. But if someone was to say “God cannot receive you as sons if He doesn’t deal with the Death that came through sin by enacting a blood sacrifice ritual" that doesn't have anything to do with God's character, it's about a specific formula God "must" use to forgive. PSA creates rules God must follow.
@palavraespiritoepoder6233
@palavraespiritoepoder6233 Ай бұрын
@@commonschurch That would be true if this statement wasn’t correct in light of the nature of God (I’m not advocating that it is)… but then for someone to say that you are creating a new God by simply stating this could only be true if we know what is true about Gods nature. So the conversation need to be about the nature of God, then to see if the affirmation is correct or not, not simply stating that no one can say what God can ou cannot do, or else that would imply automatically that you are creating a new god.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Can you really argue that requiring a particular blood sacrifice to enable forgiveness is in God's nature 🤷‍♂️ I'm not even sure proponents of PSA would make the leap. They usually just want to avoid saying that God "wants" blood sacrifices, although some will grant that.
@HisMiraclesHappening
@HisMiraclesHappening Ай бұрын
Can you explain? It may not be the “point” But the Bible does say God will create a New Heaven and a New Earth, Right? Can you expound?
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
The image is about a “renewed” heaven and earth not a “replaced” heaven and earth. When all that destroys is gone it will be a “new” earth 🌎
@ReinisInkens
@ReinisInkens Ай бұрын
Nice overview. There's certainly something interesting about process thought, God as experiencing reality with us is a different, but provocative way to see divinity. I kind of like it. I think where process theology, as relayed in this video, lost me was when it introduced the moving away from God as Father. We then have an issue of making divinity an intellectual endeavor. Moving towards a less anthropomorphic description of God makes it much harder to relate to God, sort of defeating the purpose.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Great point! I think you're absolutely right, and I think this is why anthropomorphization has been such an important part of our concepts of God. I also think most process theologians would agree with you in that "God as Father" has utility, as long as we acknowldge that it is not purely representative of God.
@Jaiti1000
@Jaiti1000 Ай бұрын
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@leclerchannaburg6129
@leclerchannaburg6129 Ай бұрын
I'm on another planet, but does God exist on my planet? I always wondered.
@commonschurch
@commonschurch Ай бұрын
Most theologians would probably say yes. Some religious believe in localized deities but most hold to a creator God, who created existence.