Tried that mouse and was very disappointed returned to my old one I wouldn't say everyone will hate it but it is not worth it at all imo

the stick part is so funny

Could you link the software for both mice I bought the one on Amazon confused on if I download the m5 pro or the regular m5 software

Keycaps?

what mice do we have with this shape?

Your the only person after numerous days of searching I was able to find that has small hands like me I got around 17.78 -18cm x 9.5-10cm I believe I measured correctly cuz everyone I see only who says they got 18cm -10cm or 18x9 or so they look way bigger than mine but everytime I keep measuring I get 18cm long sometimes 17.78 but usually 18cm. Do you know if this will work for me if I hate the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 and GPX size and shape and hate the high jump on the back but love the Zowie EC3 flat hump on the back and Finalmouse ULX Small Hump and ZA13-DW hump but find the Zowie EC3-CW too small for me? I got around 17.78 x 18cm x 9.5-10cm hands and for reference the Finalmouse ULX small fits perfectly in my hands perfect size but I kind of like ergo more than ambi and seeing that the hump slopes down more gradually like a waterfall and not longer like a rainbow on the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex looks a lot smaller or at least shorter than the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 since your palm will rest higher the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 Dex since it slopes down more gradually like a waterfall and your hand will be much higher up on it making your fingers reach the end of the mouse more since it’s hump is lower than on the Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2. Same thing happens when I use the EC3-CW it feels shorter in length than it actually is cuz of how low and how gradually the hump slopes down like a waterfall compared to higher profile humps which make mice feel longer.

its just a right handed verion if u use left hand get normal superlight

Im not going to lie why dont u try and review the ligitech g705

Gotta ask! What’s your hand size?

My EC3 is broken and I love the shape, I just can't justify that money for a wired mouse. I might buy this.

Yo, do you know some alternative (glide) to the enigma/tesseract ?

Looking forward to the full review.

Might be a mouse to pick up someday(wish it came in white) But i got pretty much same hand size as you. I currently use the WLmouse BeastX Mini, and i love it, but sometimes i feel like it is just sliiiightly to small for my liking. Before that i used the Glorious Model O- that one was just slightly to big😄 So by the dimension of the Vancer x Arbiter Akitsu, it seems to be right in the middle perfect😁

dont buy this dont buy that , all crap.

Hi should i get this or normal bungee does all of them feel the same ?

Good comparison. I'm wondering if I should get a ruin or another speedv2 but in mid. I'm after less texture on skates and more air hockey like glide, I can adjust to the slowdown. What do you think bro?

I would still go for the Keychron M4 if I had to pick a only fingertip mouse but add some struth pads on the sides to improve grip. I've been maining the M4 and felt very happy once the adjusting period ended.

Thanks for the comparison! I have the Ruin rn but think I'll pick up a Speed v2 mid, since I found the Ruin a bit too soft while using donut skates

Hey, I was thinking if getting the thorn because it’s widely known to be very good all round, but now I’m considering getting the paro. Which one in your opinion feels more comfortable in the hand? Or how do you feel about the ergo curves compared to the thorn? Also do you know why there are so little reviews on this mouse?

I have razer strider which one should you recommend at me ruin or the v2 coz the strider is a bit irritating on my skin

do you feel any grinding clicks ? or big wobble on left and right click?

very good! like❤

my atlantis mini pro was having scroll wheel issues and they agreed to send a replacement, but they actually ended up sending the paro instead for some reason, tbh though I'm liking it!

86g is not that heavy. This is my main now because of the shape. For 79$ this has better latency, and internals than some of the 100$ mouse.

Hi i have pulsar x2v2 mini i like the shape playing fingertip but i find alittle wide in grip width does the sora v2 narower or wider in the grip width ?

Who tf needs 8k polling rate most pros 1k or 2k def not worth the money get u a light weight mouse with good clicks and good coating and has a really good sensor for $100

Nice review. How would you say it compares to the Neptune pro?

i think it's very telling when a partnered creator is telling you to throw out your 'proprietary blend' and transparently letting us know that it's had no effect on them whatsoever lol ~600mg for a dozen ingredients just doesn't sound right. A proper effective serving of GABA, Bacopa and Phosphatidylserine alone is way more than 600 mg. I'm all for more supplements on their market for consumers to choose from but can we at least release supplements with proper dosing?

starry black color can use 4k/8k with 4k/8k dongle? test for me pls

thanks for the honest dive into the different vitamins and supplements inside this product, your passion about nutrition reminds me of another content creator fracno who used to review gaming energy powders/drinks and did deep dives into the things inside them

What if you eat buttholes? Is that bad?

glass is more interesting

Please i need an advice man, i'm a relaxed claw grip player with small hands. i had a Logitech G203 for years and i loved it, do you think is better the Mini or Medium version of the X2 for me?

I kinda wish they release a thorn mini. the thorn was the best fitting for me next to xlitev3 mini, and due to my hand anatomy the left curve which u mentioned in 3:00 for example kill almost all ergos for me. I am now on like the 7th mouse being the xtrfy m64 which is ok but my thumb is still getting a bit of discomfort. Still on my list are Lamzu Maya & Paro Waizowl ogm pro2 Pulsar x3 mini Though I am not much interested in ambi mice anymore (the gpx kinda works but is too heavy and sometimes just weird) should I give the Maya a try ? I am a claw palm grip user btw. Prefering ergos right slope but due to thumb issues the curve on the left sucks. Previous Kone Air Pro user currently using gpx from my bro. thanks in advance and nice video.

Just for context on the sizing stuff what size are your hands?

are those stock?

I ended up buying two. I stuck them across a broom and use them for bench press now. Thank you for telling me how heavy it is.

You should Definitely talk to a doctor about weakness problems because a mouse this light can't possibly be giving you issues. My old Razer Atheris is the weight of 2 double A batteries, you know how heavy that is? And it wasn't this current tech where I could pop in this nifty coin and play on a mat charger. I've played THOUSANDS of hours of games on the Atheris and now that It's Finally (after about 6 years mind you) trying to kick the bucket, I decided to get a mouse to go with my G613 Keyboard (about the same age as my mouse so it's winning the age factor). Here's the cons to the G309 that you should ACTUALLY be talking about. The Coin in it isn't universal, so you can't buy a charger dock of any random kind to use, you must use the powerplay mat. Can you buy Chinese knock off Qi coins to do that, Totally but you'll never see a 100% charge. Other companies smartly uses a Qi Coin which means you could literally by those Wireless qi phone circles with the light up magic circle to bedazzle your desk with and have a purpose for it that isn't your phone.... unlike the G coin. The other Con to this system is if you buy into the Powerplay the Mat needs to be on for the mouse to charge which means either you don't care about the Mat constantly blinking blue at you but in a usb port that will never turn off, or you never turn off your computer. "But you play AND charge at the same time! So it doesn't matter!" Right, cool, but some of us don't have the foresight that when they travel they REALLY should bring that Double A. Potentially a Con depending on preference. To me this is a pro. The mouse left and right buttons are sensitive and can be clicked anywhere on that surface allowing for ANY hand preferred position. Fingers flat, the Claw- you name it you can do it. The actual Pros? You can put in a double A battery and override the coin system. Yeah it sucks if you didn't bring the double A battery, but it's nice to have the ability to. Or for whatever reason you accidentally played OFF your play mat and now your mouse is out of juice but you're in the middle of Raid and a dead mouse is NOT acceptable- then having the battery feature becomes a perk to remaining wireless. Remember, I was on the Razer Atheris for a long ass time without a cord to plug into to charge. That concept? foreign to me. I was batteries or bust, no coin no nada. So the other Pro? Yeah it sucks that it isn't a Qi Coin but it ain't a broke idea, that's for sure. It'd be smart of Logitech to sell Qi coins separately that work with their mouse voltage but that'd be genuinely wishful thinking from a company who can't ship stock from their own website in a timely manner, much less not have you run in circles with customer support trying to figure out why they can't honor their own 2-3 day express shipping; and is the same company that recently fucked up how G hub functions making many members cry for a roll back to a more stable version but Let's not get too far ahead as those things don't have TOO too much weight in anything. Another Pro? Omg, NO RUBBER and the anti slip stickers are OPTIONAL. First thing to get disgusting and is a bitch to clean is ALWAYS the rubber and either your cleaning supply will make it sticky forever or your cleaning supply ATE the rubber- no in-between, leaving the mouse an unsanitary skin collecting biohazard, where an all plastic shell?? Man a dream come true. I look forward to cleaning this mouse which is a WEIRD thing to look forward to. How about this Pro, This mouse has THREE ways it can connect. Wireless, Dongle, Or PowerPlay mat- Yes the Powerplay mat has the ability to pair to the mouse and frees up a usb slot FOR the mat itself. Someone was using their head when it came to USB management. And as standard to all Wireless mouse regardless of company, yes the dongle can be stored in the mouse. So while you're smacking your forehead for now needing to run to the CVS for a pack of Double As, at least you're not completely up shits creek and forced to rely on bluetooth for your mouse if you REALLY don't want to. But no seriously, go get a doctor to look at arm weakness. It's not normal to fatigue after that much time with a SUPER light mouse.

How's the glide of either skates in speed fabric pada?

lol wtf are you on bro im using original G502 at 121 grams no fatigue issues what so ever. G309 is a brick? what a joke. do you have muscle dystrophy or something?

Nice review. Also we are so similar in how we feel about mice that it's uncanny. Small things like a mouse being a tad light weight causing movement to feel a bit disconnected, being able to express those feelings and putting them into words. It's like really mesmerizing. Also yeah it's confusing how this mouse didn't get more reviews. As a huge model d- fan (which btw was the one EC3 took inspiration from, people like to think EC3 was first) this one looks absolutely amazing shape-wise and of course with the reduced weight and specs. I just purchased mine and waiting for it to arrive.

Honestly I don't think fatigue is as big of a deal as people say it is with fingertip. Heck I was wielding a G402 with fingertip grip not too long ago

I love the feel, weight, shape, and coating of the Thorn but those optical switches feel horrible to me.

Nice review. Do you think a person that loves the G502 shape will like the Paro for relaxed claw grip? (I don't like palm grip, Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed wasn't good for my grip style)

refresh in october how is the coating u think it will yellow fast?

Thanks for the review, I also want this mouse as a alt from my Lamzu Thorn, also I would recommend that you have the Thorn so you can compare with other ergo in the future, the shape of it is pretty unique because of the high back hump.

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I think lamzu has just been too far behind on their releases and other than the paro everything else is just a refresh. The Atlantis mini for example, why didn’t they reduce the weight and why sell only pink. Oh and still no 8k dongles. They started hot but have been missing the mark lately. I own the maya and the Atlantis mini. Why would I purchase the refresh? Great review though!

Great mousepad. What the name though ?

How its compared to pulsar xlite v2 or v3 mini in terms of shape ?