Great information as always. I'll see you this Friday

The opening comment is hilarious because shooting so far away the front sight covers the target (the black of the bullseye) is exactly what I've been taught, to make matters worse, we did it one-handed, slow fire, 5 in 20 seconds and 5 in 10 seconds. When I shot the qualifications for action shooting I aimed at the "A", not the A zone, the "A" letter. Sure I should work on speed but keeping high accuracy standards is what gives me confidence in a firearm and myself.

Outstanding! Old Dragons,don't get old with out adapting, and learning

Having read your book and been an early adopter of slide mounted dots because of you I wasn’t planning on watching this video. But then I thought it might be useful information for a friend of mine new to dots. I’m glad I watched it. Useful information and made me laugh too. Bless you sir.

So we have been working on redots for transition, so we purchased slides for our Glock 44 practice guns. Been taking a while and plently of rounds and practice draws.

This has been a known issue with optics mounts for years. Seems some people forget or are not taught past issues.

🇺🇸 See you Friday, Gabe.

I’ve carried both a DA/SA and a striker … I shoot both equally well , but there’s no denying DA/SA offer certain advantages but they also require more trigger time to fully master both equally

when I got my G48 cut for an optic, my gunsmith explained to me the screw issue. thanks for figuring this out for us all

But doesn’t that go against the idea that you shouldn’t be focusing on the dot? Should be focusing a spot on the target not the dot itself and we’ve been seeing a lot push the occluded dot to hammer this in.

Love the shirt. The chair is against the wall

Well said!

I learned something today. Thank you!

I've been saying the same damn thing for years!! I told my wife it was cheaper to buy trigger kits!! Yuup

Nice insightful presentation. Many good valid points discussed. I have carried a PPK for years in 32 acp. For defensive purposes, I don't feel under gunned in the least by it. Extremely easy to consistently keep rounds on target with it. The recoil is a little more than a 22. I've opted to use 73 grain fmj S&B ammo.

How can we get a copy of circle of stealth?

I felt the same way. CZ should have cut this off at the pass, and Chris should have suspected any add-on, especially anything he added to the slide. Adding something to the slide is not likely to improve reliability. FREEDOM GORILLA recommended their short screws when I bought my green dot for the P09 c. Obviously there are folks out there who are aware of the issue. In the meantime folks are looking at the gun expecting mayhem. One reviewer experienced repeated lockbacks because he kept hitting the slide release on recoil. He concluded that the gun was flawed. Anyway, My P09 with the 8 or 9mm M4 screws securing my optic, runs reliably all day long. In my brief experience, it's a great shooting, accurate poly DA/SA that is optics ready....all for about $500. Of course, I might have gotten the only good one ever made. :)

Thanks for this! I’ll take a look at it.

And by the way...I now have a second Nocturne...a P-09F. Not as big as some might think. About same size as my SP-01. And yes...added a Holosun. Will probably get a second P-09C because I can. And if CZ's little birds are spying on KZbin...a P-09S and a P-09XS (Subcompact and Extra-Subcompact in 9mm and 380 respectively). Waving the Randall Model 14 magic wand..do it CZ...do it CZ...do it CZ...you know you want to.....

Honest Outlaw loves Cz. Thanks for the knowledge.

First guy to make sense of what's going on with this new pistol. All the other want to be Delta Force sheep on KZbin who take money from Glock and Springfield and many others, all fail to address the problem. No one had any problem with this who hasn't put an optic on it. Outlaw dude must have not got his residual check from CZ or it bounced!!

Sig gave me the same treatment on a P220 I was carrying, the frame cracked… kind of told me all I needed to know about Sig.

I watched his video right after he posted it. Inhad the same thought as most other on that the screw was hitting the extractor. Sadly he still hasnt come out with an update.

Gabe,hate to ask.I have a csa vz58.Well eveytime I remove magazine no matter round count ,a bullet is unseated .Not sure if this is normal? Ty Mike

I believe Honest Outlaw used the screws that came with his red dot, rather than the screws that came with the gun.

Have a few of the dvds good shit

Beretta makes a kit that makes it a decock only, same as a sig 226. Give them a look

Thank You! I was thinking about losing my down payment and canceling my layaway of a Nocturne. I LOVE my P-07 and have wanted it cut for a dot, and the Nocturne seemed the way to go. Then the video you spoke of scared me. Now I think I'll give it a chance. New sub. RockOn.StayFree.

Your point on moral obligations got my subscription. So sick of “operators” and even some cops who say you should stay out of it. I’m glad to see someone with a sense of right and wrong.

Aloha Gabe! I have been following you from the beginning brother. You have ALWAYS been at the forefront of changes from: "Getting off the X", red dots, AKs, long-range pistol marksman ship, and now the return to SA/DA. I have always hated striker fired pistols because of the danger in re-holstering, especially when carrying concealed (i.e. not a hard-sided duty holster). Glad to see this pistol from CZ - and praying for Sig-Sauer to come out with a SA/DA pistol with optics without a proprietary optic footprint for their shitty Romeo sights.

Honest Outlaw's a CZ Guy! Was disappointed to see'im take sucha "lazy" approach to the issue. He hasn't, as yet, to my knowledge, addressed his "Chicken Little" vid, and apologized, publicly, to CZ, for what was, largely, a user-induced issue. (Like u said! CZ should'a idiot-proofed tha process abit better...)

Tritium is a radioactive material and not allowed by most European countries, hence the phosphorescent sights. First thing I change on my Czech CZs.

An optic ready polymer SADA was on my wish list. I will buy this slide for my P07 when they come available. Now we need the same features in a Shield plus, hellcat, p365 sized polymer double stack. Why Walther hasn't created a polymer double stack ppk is beyond me.

CZ European website lists the CZ P-09 C Nocturne SR with a threaded 115mm barrel. 1/2” × 28 UNEF - 3A

Great content! I subbed.

Thanks for putting this together. The issue you're describing is exactly what was wrong with my Springfield Prodigy. I just got it back from Springfield Armory. I grabbed the wrong screw on the left side which caused issues with the extractor. They removed the screw tuned the extractor and now it runs without any issues.

Finally someone is using the term "transfer" instead of transition!!!!

To the point with no bull shit. Keep up the great fight brother.

Honest outlaw I trust to not shill more than any other influencer. He is talented. He just gives his opinion. He points stuff out on various platforms and his wife gives her take since she shoots from a totally different perspective and with smaller hands. The optic screws being too long has caused issues in many guns.

Everything is a training issue when it comes to safety. The first heavy trigger pull on a DA/SA is going to be a wild shot every time unless cops put in the time with DA/SA guns. Two trigger pulls can mastered. But if you exhibit safe gun handling with a glock what is the point of going to a DA first shot, mastering the transition on a new platform when you have already spent decades mastering a striker firing pistol. I doubt too many departments will go that direction. They have had alloy 226’s and 229’s to choose from for years. Now with short reset triggers. The went to Glock. Including tier one military units, sof units, All the 3 letter agencies and secret service. They are never going back. We as individuals might. For the reasons you stated.

Thanks from France. I’m looking for my first pistol these days and the P09 Nocture was on the top position on my list. But videos about malfunctions scared me. No gun carry here, but i don’t want to spend my time dealing with malfunctions during my futur stand trainings. I’m happy to have the explaination from your video. Maybe i’ll have it in a couple of months 🙏🏻

I've put 600 rounds through my P-09c with 100% reliability, and it has disappointed me to see the "malfunction" videos for this pistol (like Outlaw's) not even begin to try and figure out why the problems are occurring.

Has CZ acknowledged this screw issue?

The P-09C Nocturne is a fantastic pistol. I have 2500 plus rds through it. I’ve put the CGW trigger in it and have done a couple things like remove rear irons and shave down front to lesson cowitness using the notches on EPS Carry instead. Anyhow, I love the pistol. I did have to swap out the decocker for the safety. I experienced an uncommon issue that some w the old P-07 experience were the left side decocker pops out just a tiny little bit rendering pistol inoperable. This happened like 7 times w my carry ammo while dumping mags. No big deal. I carry the Shadow 2 Compact half cocked safety off, so I could carry less besides, theirs is a fix, but I didn’t feel like even going through the paces. Like said it’s not very common I guess. I learned about it through a Google search and saw something on Reddit where Cajun Gun Works had a fix for it. This is absolutely no BS. I love this pistol and love sa sa/da. I am not a fan of Glock or strike fired guns much at all so yeah. It’s cool CZ gives you the safety along with the postil, so it was there, and took like 30 seconds to change. Cool video. God Bless

I have a P-07 milled for a Holosun 507 by Vulcan Machine Werks. They were adamant that the optic had to be milled far back on the slide with the screws are behind the firing pin retainer pin. With that cut the screws didn't interfere with any of the internal parts, and the rear iron sight was placed forward of the optic. I'm planning on purchasing the P-09 Nocturne, and I'll probably shave down the right side screw a nose hair to ensure reliability.

I can’t wait! I have a safe full of DA/SA Sigs

Very enlightening about optic screw lengths. One more thing to take into account when installing a red dot.

Shadow 2 compact with widened safety. That's my jam.

Good video thanks!

Have the P-09C and running iron sights now with no issues in first 300 rounds. Good to know about the screws if I decide to run an optic. Thanks.