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@illiniwood
@illiniwood 6 күн бұрын
I was considering the M12 2505-22 4-in-1, so I mad a trip into a Home Depot. I'm so glad I did! I kinda have small hands, and when I held it I felt like I was holding a Coke can. It was terribly uncomfortable, even in the middle finger trigger hold position. The hammer drill/driver and impact driver weren't so bad, but even with them, the feeling of holding a Coke can was still slightly there. Just to let everyone know, for good or for bad, the 2505-22 most definitely has a thicker grip handle than its drill/driver impact driver cousins.
@Woodwerks
@Woodwerks 7 күн бұрын
Definitely a bummer. Was about to pull the trigger on one until I saw this.
@k0olhandluk312
@k0olhandluk312 12 күн бұрын
You shouldn t have to do a thing for what you are asking...but I'm going to dremel the slots larger to fit my dive belt
@Bolfiik
@Bolfiik 24 күн бұрын
I do have Intersect and the sheath is so much better imo. However the handle isnt glued well to the tang, so everytime you squeeze it, it opens tiny bit ://
@thebordernow
@thebordernow Ай бұрын
At 1:40, 0.4 lbs or 4 ozs since weight was mentioned in decimal pounds a few seconds before that?
@pecman347
@pecman347 Ай бұрын
Use a typical fisherman's belt or wading belt. That will fit.
@cortezaz
@cortezaz Ай бұрын
Is made for big man hands. I like it. If you got small hands then yeah, by all means get a dewalt. That’s what I got my wife for her crafts👍
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 Ай бұрын
Good one! 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
@NorthwoodsSolutions
@NorthwoodsSolutions Ай бұрын
Not too happy with mine, The magnacut is nice, but I feel the blade should have been thicker so it could be used for emergency prying. The sheath is a total joke, the biggest issue being that the release button is far too easy to activate if caught accidentally. Only a matter of time before I lose the knife into water when the release catch gets caught up on my pfd.
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Do they actually field test these things with people or do they sit in their tower and look down upon us while wiping their nose with our money.
@jettschenker
@jettschenker Ай бұрын
I don't know the 12-volt extreme cordless tools, but what I would really love is for DeWalt to make a 12-volt extreme version of the 850 20 volt impact driver. It would be even smaller and lighter and get in the tighter places than the 850 and I would love to own one for working around the house and in my profession which is aviation maintenance
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 Ай бұрын
They do make a 12volt impact driver. I just checked Lowe’s and they are on sale. The screwdriver with 2 batteries and a charger is $99 down from $130 and the same kit with the impact driver is $130 down from $150.
@TobinGeorgeWashington
@TobinGeorgeWashington Ай бұрын
Yeh...agree w/you man. So much design in the knife.. but no design thoughts in the sheath. That sucks. Will wait and see what aftermarket kydex shops can do for us.
@xlilnetx
@xlilnetx 2 ай бұрын
How many oz does it weight ?
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 2 ай бұрын
It’s says 0.1lbs on their website which is kinda dumb. I know this, I stopped carrying it and bought the No 20k mini bolt action pen and like it much more than this one. For me it became too heavy when writing for a while.
@xlilnetx
@xlilnetx 2 ай бұрын
@@kennethkuhlman8864 oh ok thanks man it’s like 1.6 oz converted. That is kinda heavy. Do you know if the top of the pen where the pocket clip connects is metal too or plastic?
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 2 ай бұрын
@@xlilnetxyea that cap is plastic. It’s good quality though.
@xlilnetx
@xlilnetx 2 ай бұрын
@@kennethkuhlman8864 oh ok thank you, I think ima try one of the zebra expandz the are all metal I think thanks dude
@stephanwilliot2324
@stephanwilliot2324 2 ай бұрын
Have you looked at the Adira from their Water Series?
@williamweiss1987
@williamweiss1987 2 ай бұрын
Pretty petty on how to use a pliers. I don't seem to have a problem with the arc.
@Jason-mb7gk
@Jason-mb7gk 3 ай бұрын
Leave it to Benchmade. Send it back. You shouldn’t have to rig it.
@teaguewagner6513
@teaguewagner6513 3 ай бұрын
It is not made to carry.
@GnatGoSplat
@GnatGoSplat 3 ай бұрын
Was all set to get M12 tools, but started finding enough reddit posts and KZbinrs saying the M12 grip is too fat, unergonomic, and uncomfortable. That made me decide I have to make a trip to HD and check it out for myself. Unfortunately, really hard to judge as they have painful security clamps and chains around them. From what I could tell, the M18 line, Dewalt, and Makita, are definitely more comfortable as I could feel the bulge of the handle press against the pinky side of the palm. How long do you use the tools before you really start to feel the lack of ergonomics? You kept them though, the weight savings outweighs the comfort? I just don't know how much I should care about comfort if I just use them for weekend projects.
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 3 ай бұрын
So my opinion on the grip is that it really doesnt matter in the long run. I just dont prefer the feel of the M12, not only the diameter but also the feel of having the base of the grip being the battery, its just not as solid feeling. So if I had to do it all over again I would probably buy the Gen4 M18 Fuel hammer drill and impact driver because they are super powerful, then I would get a smaller light duty tool like the Dewalt 12V screwdriver(its what I reach for almost every time around the house for day to day stuff) or maybe their 5-in-1 12V tool that has the different heads, but I have never used it. But if you dont have the 5-in-1 tool you can make due with the Milwaukee Shockwave Right Angle Adapter (48-32-2390) and a 12in long bit extender(48-32-4512). The bit extender lets you get screws that are close to a wall by bringing the tool farther away and it lets the angle get reduced. The power of M18 Fuel tools is just crazy compared to the M12 so you'll never have to ask yourself if you can get the job done. And the new Gen 4 M18 Fuel impact driver has excellent modulation compared the the older Gen 3 which suffered in that department. But they are a lot more money that M12. Its a hard decision though.
@vangriekenc
@vangriekenc 3 ай бұрын
Great points.
@Dunc2222
@Dunc2222 3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for this review. It caused me today to compare both the M12 Fuel (Gen 3) combo kit and the M18 Compact Brushless (model 3692-22CT) kit before deciding on one. Prior to seeing your review, I was leaning toward the M12 Fuel. But upon trying both, I came to the same conclusion you did on the ergonomics, and have just decided to keep the M18 Compact and return the M12 Fuel. The Compact simply felt better in the hand, with a more relaxed grip and more control. It's not just the lack of support above the grip that you point out, but also the thicker grip on the M12 - and I have large hands. The Compact tools are slightly heavier on the scale, but in the hand they almost feel lighter because the ergonomics are just better. And both the drill and impact driver are shorter and narrower on the Compact, so there's no real size advantage for the M12. And the M18 is more powerful. I also checked the variable speed triggers - important for woodworkers - and they have comparable levels of control. I'll miss the triple LED on the M12 Fuel impact driver, but otherwise I just liked the M18 Compact more.
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Glad I could help!
@Dunc2222
@Dunc2222 3 ай бұрын
Very thoughtful discussion. Would be interesting to hear your current views on those ergonomics, a year or so later now.
@deltafunction0
@deltafunction0 3 ай бұрын
I can't help but feel like this wouldn't work for me for a devoted dive knife. I'd want a blunt tip, a dual-sided blade (one fully serrated one plain), and a tank tapper. This as none of that, and it appears not to come with straps. As a knife for any other water use, sure.
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 3 ай бұрын
For sure. I was hoping to use it on deck. Def not in water. We use Spyderco Atlantic salts for that.
@EthanBlakeProductions
@EthanBlakeProductions 3 ай бұрын
Even I could tell that the sheath wasn’t going to work from the photos they released. I can’t believe no one at Benchmade caught these issues before it was released to the public.
@seagray5727
@seagray5727 3 ай бұрын
I still use the original H2O. It's done many hundreds of rescues! I'm really hoping the new version with magnacut will fit the bill as well
@joesabet2001
@joesabet2001 3 ай бұрын
dude, use two hands - issue solved
@hellyabird
@hellyabird 3 ай бұрын
Agree it is far from best option. It is a temporary way to get it on a TekLok. Yeah miss the H2O Sheath and that metal clip worked great with 4way mounts on PDF vest, belts, and molle
@willywinket
@willywinket 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us. I want to get one but I was dubious about the sheath. Lately Benchmade has been falling down big time on factory sheaths. I just about always buy a Armatus Carry sheath for any Benchmade fixed blade, if one is available. If Armatus has a sheath I may buy the Undercurrent knife…
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 3 ай бұрын
I just made a new video that’s going up now. A user sent some pics of the setup
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 3 ай бұрын
Ok. Up now.
@mistersmith3986
@mistersmith3986 3 ай бұрын
I bought my Surge used at a flee market for $20.00. Thus Surge just kicked Arc's A$$.
@aephspore3341
@aephspore3341 3 ай бұрын
Also prybar and scissors are waaaaaaay wayyy more convenient to use on Surge, not to mention t shank where i put longer teeth saw for cutting wood, but yes they are different tools in the end
@hellyabird
@hellyabird 3 ай бұрын
THe TekLok mount is temporary I plan on permmantly mounting this knife to my PFD vest on left shoulder so for that the holes and slots work perfectly
@MaineFishnHuntGuy
@MaineFishnHuntGuy 3 ай бұрын
Have you checked out Walker Knife Co? They're local to me in Maine and make knives specifically for a PFD. I'm surprised Benchmade dropped the ball so hard on this sheath, seems like a great knife otherwise.
@hellyabird
@hellyabird 3 ай бұрын
I put it on a TekLok using one of slots and first hole under slot used TekLot mounting hardware and rubber washers that comes with them to create correct spacing. I have three screw into TekLok
@hellyabird
@hellyabird 3 ай бұрын
@@kennethkuhlman8864 Yes I can do that. I do agree that BM kinda missed the mark on the sheath the holes could have been thought out better and they could offer some adapter like you said that plugs into those slots.
@WithOneInTheChamber
@WithOneInTheChamber 3 ай бұрын
@hellyabird can you also send me a picture of that. I’m having similar issue
@seagray5727
@seagray5727 3 ай бұрын
I zip-tie my H2O sheath right to the gear. The spine/jimping lock on the original sheath has been an amazing feature and survived literally hundreds of jumps and dives and rough seas.
@seagray5727
@seagray5727 3 ай бұрын
I talked to the owner of ulticlip last year and petitioned him to start making the clips in stainless.... fingers crossed they start doing that soon
@Jahoosapheth
@Jahoosapheth 3 ай бұрын
Lol thanks for the video. I dont know why i couldnt figure out how to get to the refill. I think i was trying to unscrew the wrong section. Very stupid problem to have but you saved the day 😅
@rainypath96
@rainypath96 4 ай бұрын
My new drill does this. Might be normal but can’t find a definitive answer
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 4 ай бұрын
I think it’s normal for it. I returned this one and the new one did it as well.
@rainypath96
@rainypath96 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethkuhlman8864 kinda crazy since my harbor freight bauer drill chuck feels way better than the milwaukee...
@TimothyBell-gj4mx
@TimothyBell-gj4mx 4 ай бұрын
I just started using the M12 generation 3 drill driver. I use my middle to finger to pull the trigger and index finger to guide or steer the tool. Milwaukee may have intended middle finger trigger pull like the installation driver. I an aircraft mechanic and the majority of drill applications are for removing and installing fasteners using the clutch.
@Yalhoymohk
@Yalhoymohk 3 ай бұрын
Could you explain the clutch on this drill please? That's exactly what I am looking for. How does it handle little screws? Is it sensitive or does it overdo them? Thanks.
@seansouders4936
@seansouders4936 5 ай бұрын
i can appreciate a good conversation on ergonomics well done
@sparx2391
@sparx2391 5 ай бұрын
Bosch 12v impact and drill are really comfortable to hold and very compact and a 3 ah battery lasts a couple of days.
@g8beast679
@g8beast679 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely right. I've got a Bosch FlexiClick and even the Bosch 12v tools have battery in the handle but they are comfortable. Notice that in Bosch, the single cell is at the back while 2 in the front under the trigger. While in Milwaukee, the single is under the trigger and 2 at the back, thus making it uncomfortable. The fat grip and battery removal, are the only reason keeping me with Dewalt 12v.
@nrcgio3680
@nrcgio3680 7 ай бұрын
What kind of pouch is that?
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 7 ай бұрын
It’s not a pouch. They are 5.11 pants with a pocket.
@Thd_jss
@Thd_jss 7 ай бұрын
I have this problem too, unfortunately I couldn't find a convincing reason for it
@jlejlet697
@jlejlet697 7 ай бұрын
Tell me, how did you solve this problem?
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 7 ай бұрын
I returned and got a new one but the issue was still there.
@ICanDoItMyself
@ICanDoItMyself 7 ай бұрын
Most videos show how fast and how powerful the drill is. The first video that shows the lowest speed! Thank you! I want for delicate uses, so the slow speed is important. My 20v Atomic has a minimum speed that is faster than I want. I think this'll work!
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 7 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@wayward-saint
@wayward-saint 7 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, the Bosch 12v drivers feel much better because the batteries face the other way.
@flhandster4395
@flhandster4395 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Is the ink cartridge tip a fine or medium size? Where is the best place to buy the pens and refills? Thanks.
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 7 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s medium. The only pen I’ve used of theirs that fine is the plastic pen like this one but it’s doesn’t write very well. And Amazon carries their pens and refills after a bit of being released.
@andyhedges5705
@andyhedges5705 7 ай бұрын
Interesting review
@ImagineSomeCoolNameHere
@ImagineSomeCoolNameHere 8 ай бұрын
I'm fully invested into Milwaukee too and I appreciate the honest review, been thinking about getting this Dewalt DCF601as well. Great review going over all the important facts. Keep posting brother!
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man! I just got something to help with video so I’m probably going to post more now.
@Martinruizthemerchant
@Martinruizthemerchant 9 ай бұрын
I have to agree I love this tool I bought the Impact 12v but I am returning it after using this because i don't need the Impact since i have the 20v one that does more
@pvmelite4230
@pvmelite4230 9 ай бұрын
The cap to replace the cartridge is stuck in mine
@TrueNomadSkies
@TrueNomadSkies 10 ай бұрын
I like the handle shape of the gen 3 a lot better than the gen 2. It's almost like they're smoothing out the backs to be like their pre-fuel era tools which is a little detail I can appreciate.
@John-gw3kd
@John-gw3kd 10 ай бұрын
Eh, I would take the clicking over the previous generation any day. I have the 2504-20. About half the time I tighten it around a bit, the whole thing pops loose in the direction I'm turning. Freaks me out every time. I love Milwaukee, but that drill is easily the most hated tool I've ever owned.
@jrhodes3216
@jrhodes3216 10 ай бұрын
There are some very talented one-handed maneuvers going on here! 🌟
@kennethkuhlman8864
@kennethkuhlman8864 10 ай бұрын
😏 I need a phone holder. Lol
@TOTTISFF
@TOTTISFF 11 ай бұрын
Got mine today, same issue, did the same test, It was made in Mexico, what about yours?
@cfarmer1833
@cfarmer1833 11 ай бұрын
Ok so today I noticed something with my clutch… when i was loosening the clutch it wasn’t turning loosely but clicking like a ratchet rather than just spinning open like normal.. m12 3rd gen.. any thoughts ?
@g8beast679
@g8beast679 11 ай бұрын
Great Review. Just watched your video after purchasing the Gen 3 kit. And the 1st thing i noticed and did not appreciate was the curve in the back. The grip is not steady and i kept hitting the forward reverse switch.