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@graememcdonald1547
@graememcdonald1547 27 күн бұрын
Just found this. It's great. Such a fantastic demo and explanation.👍👍🥁I notice the right hand never seems to pass horizontal. Much like the way Buddy rich often used to do.
@diegooliveraa
@diegooliveraa 3 ай бұрын
This makes me understand the difference between the system and the push-pull techniques. Both techniques have a very similar foundation but there are very particular actions in the push-pull that includes the breakdown of the first phalange of the thumb in the matched grip. Do you agree with this perception?
@diegooliveraa
@diegooliveraa 3 ай бұрын
great lesson !! thank you for sharing
@Jefferson1969-u4s
@Jefferson1969-u4s 4 ай бұрын
Yeah! Fantastic effort! 👏👏👏
@diegooliveraa
@diegooliveraa 4 ай бұрын
great!! thank you for this lesson , really help me in great deal
@johnbelfiglio562
@johnbelfiglio562 4 ай бұрын
Wow. Wish I had the opportunity to study with Freddy. Recently had to take a hiatus from the drum due to a serious back injury. Haven’t played in a few years and want to take the opportunity to “retrain” my muscles to get rid of all the bad habits I’ve developed over 40 years of playing. Any chance you do lessons?
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 3 ай бұрын
: Unfortunately, I am not in a position to give lessons at this time. I live in Akron Ohio and have not the facility to teach online but when I do, I will notify you immediately if you’re still interested.
@WorldDrummerStef
@WorldDrummerStef 4 ай бұрын
Hi Neal, Thanks for posting this Gruberism. Great job!
@halla6323
@halla6323 5 ай бұрын
Very nice, thanks for the video! What kind of drum pads are those?
@raymondmorford4514
@raymondmorford4514 6 ай бұрын
Freddie Kruger
@karrierosencrance2004
@karrierosencrance2004 6 ай бұрын
Can I find a video where Freddy is playing.
@jimthompson7144
@jimthompson7144 7 ай бұрын
I only studied with Freddie for about 6 months way back in 1968-69. I recall sitting in Freddie's entry way doing some this same warm- up with a yonger kid named John Hernandez (aka Johnny Vatos) while Freddie was giving a lesson to the late, great Jihn Guerin.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 6 ай бұрын
I remember being around Freddie in his house, taking lessons during those days with John Hernandez, and Mike Baird, and others. Hunt sales were studying with Freddie at the same time, and he was always around at the house with us. Freddy’s house that is!
@adityatyagi4009
@adityatyagi4009 7 ай бұрын
This is some seriously brilliant stuff. Thanks for sharing with us!
@VincentBuonora
@VincentBuonora 9 ай бұрын
Super demo…thanks will practice ❤
@hngodesign
@hngodesign 10 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for sharing this priceless information. Your technique is superb!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your positive comment much luck to you and your drumming career. Hope you can do better than I did.
@shonuffgroove
@shonuffgroove Жыл бұрын
Hello, can you post again the transcript please ?
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got to make a correction considering a statement I make here when I’m demonstrating the eighth note, triplets isolated, (around two minutes and 27 seconds in)….I say: “the fingers will be closed on one and three and open on two and four”! Actually, if you start with the fingers open on one, the opposite will be true!… The fingers should be open on 1&3…. In other words The hand should be open on one and three subsequently, the fingers should be closed. The hand should be closed and assuming the left hand traditional grip on two and four (2&4)!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
SHUT OFF THE FUCK’N METRONOME DUDE!….THANK YOU!!! Jeez!
@DrumTipTuesday
@DrumTipTuesday Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see drummers keeping this technique alive and kicking. The "Ups and Downs" the Moeller and the Gruber approach, gotta keep them all alive
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Drum tipped Tuesday. Thank you so much. You are so right! It’s up to people like us to keep the masters “ legacy” alive!
@kurikokaleidoscope
@kurikokaleidoscope Жыл бұрын
New subscriber from Japan
@peterkahlenborn8163
@peterkahlenborn8163 Жыл бұрын
Watching this, the thought comes up »I love drummers«😇 How many similar looking rooms may there be around the world, where drummers invest hours and hours, love and dedication to understand the nature of movement, rhythm and swing - knowing that even after years of practice and experimentation, they are ultimately only ever getting closer to the real secret, without the slightest chance of ever fully fathoming it. It touches me to feel this never-ending, honest and still childlike enthusiasm for such a great thing as drumming. Thank you Sir!
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 Жыл бұрын
Could Freddy play this solo?
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
No! Freddy would play “HIS” solos! Why would he wanna copy this?! Actually, anything I can do I can do because I studied Freddie’s approach for so long. Weather t be good or bad for better or worse?
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 Жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna beat a dead horse but has ANYONE ever seen Freddy demonstrate his hands?
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
yeah! I have! And so did all of his other students! Hope that answers your question!
@williamperri3437
@williamperri3437 9 ай бұрын
How were his Chops?
@tristandsaldana
@tristandsaldana Жыл бұрын
I remember Carl Tassi (another student of Freddie's) teaching me this. Thank you, Neal, for your clear and thorough demonstration.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
I love Carl, he is good friend of mine say hello to him for me Willia, when you see him him
@pjdahmen
@pjdahmen Жыл бұрын
Nice one
@enricocavasino3642
@enricocavasino3642 Жыл бұрын
Nice to have a clear explanation of the motion on Traditional technique. Thanks very much and God bless you😇
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
And God bless you too Enrico. Good luck with your drumming I hope this helps!😊
@enricocavasino3642
@enricocavasino3642 Жыл бұрын
WOW YEAH . 4 SURE
@HadEnough745
@HadEnough745 Жыл бұрын
Obviously a fan of Morello. Similar left hand technique and silver sparkle kit.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
I really like and admire Joe’s playing most definitely
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 6 ай бұрын
I was a fan of all those guys I looked up to them immensely Buddy Rich, Louis, Bellson, Joe Morello, Roy, Burns, Alvin, Stroller! And you know what I still do! Thank you for your right on observation! Drum on baby
@superatech
@superatech 2 жыл бұрын
Neal, you need to slow many of these exercises down before you do them at speed.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
You are correct I will try to watch that next time
@bobgosselin4402
@bobgosselin4402 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear some of Freddie's playing. I heard a jim Chapin interview and he said he was great
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 6 ай бұрын
There are absolutely no audio or video recordings of Freddie actually playing drums. It’s very weird.
@briangettman1289
@briangettman1289 2 жыл бұрын
My teacher was also a student of Gruber. I learned the same system. When you’re trying to play with ease, finesse and without pain, this system is very effective!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! who is your teacher perhaps I know him? Yes it is A very effective technique and so versatile it could be used in so many applications i and settings!
@superatech
@superatech 2 жыл бұрын
Whew, I was right back in the practice room with my teacher! Thank you.
@johnmercurio8529
@johnmercurio8529 2 жыл бұрын
Amen and God bless!! The apostle Neil has spoken!! This is one of those things that I never really mastered but I did know it and understand it from many years ago. I am going to revisit the system by Freddie Gruber as you have shown us. I'm really going to work at it and see if maybe this time I can Master it!! Thank you so very much Neil. I promise I'll let you know in a few weeks how it's working out. Until then, everybody keep your chops up!! 🥁🙃
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John good luck to you I love your positive outlook success in all you do!
@johnmercurio8529
@johnmercurio8529 2 жыл бұрын
@@nealsausen4651 thank you my friend. I happen to be in Florida and we're still not out of this storm. A lot of damage and flooding. Looks like a war zone. But the good news is we're all safe. Including the drummies!! Stay safe stay healthy and stay blessed. Hopefully we'll stay in touch 🙏🥁
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnmercurio8529 : Will do John and you as well stay good down there and keep swinging!🥁
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Uh….do you think you could shut off the metronome while you’re talking explaining! Thank you!
@claesblomquist3510
@claesblomquist3510 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much mr Sausen. Great demonstration of the system and some really great playing. Always wanted to learn this.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you claes I’m glad the video helps you good luck with it and all your endeavors again thank you!
@claesblomquist3510
@claesblomquist3510 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Neal for posting this. It's exactly what I've been looking for. Looking forward to future videos.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Proper title for this exercise should be: “ BOUNCE 1 / BOUNCE 1 2”!
@johncollin1
@johncollin1 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks Neal. Did you do any foot pedal videos ?
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
That’s in the works JOHN but I don’t know exactly when I’ll do a video in Freddys for technique in the meantime I think Steve Smith has a video on KZbin where he kind of touches on that!
@Ranger1216
@Ranger1216 2 жыл бұрын
So listenable with great ideas….I wonder if students should learn first playing brushes on the set;….thanks
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words! Actually you’re right people should learn to play everything with brushes that they would do with sticks in fact you should take a book like the buddy rich book or any good book on snare drum rudiments and practice them with brushes as well as sticks staying on the tips of the wires not the flat of the brush For jazz brushes, there are plenty of good books and videos out there that teach Brush playing as aplied to jazz Drumming
@johncollin1
@johncollin1 2 жыл бұрын
So great, thank you Neil
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
John I’m so glad you enjoy this video and I hope it helps in some small way at least!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John I’m glad you enjoyed it I hope it can help you even if in some small way!
@GuiSausen
@GuiSausen 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice!!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 Жыл бұрын
Hey, we have the same last name and this is not a common last name! What is the history of your family?
@silentwitness4843
@silentwitness4843 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing! You are truly amazing!!! And to think you spoke to me in here !!!! Wow!!!!! What's your day job????? Cuz I bet you're a musician !!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you silent witness for your kind words actually today nowadays I have no day job the pandemic put An end to that! Teaching is going to have to be the way to go for me as well as a lot of other people who used to work a lot playing that is! I don’t know win real playing gigs will return if ever very sad but thank you and good luck in your endeavors
@shvetes
@shvetes 2 жыл бұрын
Also I wanted to ask you, did Freddie ever work out of the book 4-Way Coordination by Marvin Dahlgren and Elliot Fine (1963) ? Thanks
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I did go through the four way coordination book The Dahlgren/ Fine book with Freddie Much later in my studies with him excellent book! We went through that book after we did the Jim Chapin Book and the Nick Ceroli book! In the four-way book FRED would teach jazz out of that book he would teach Latin out of that book he would show me how to utilize that book to do 12/8 Afro Cubano rhythms, very versatile book. I highly recommend that book for any serious student of the drum set!
@shvetes
@shvetes 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Thank you!!!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@shvetes ; You’re so welcome!
@shvetes
@shvetes 2 жыл бұрын
Hi again Neil. I noticed in one of the books I worked out of with Freddie back in ‘84 that he wrote down your name and phone number from the time so that you could help me get a copy of the “rock book”. And you did back then! Thanks again 38 years later!! Also I think Freddie and I visited your house back then one time. I remember a drum kit on a platform about 5 inches high in a room right near the front door. Anyway happy new year.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I’m just now reading your comment I’m glad I was able to help you procure that rock book and that’s a hard one to track down since it wasn’t issued from a major publisher it was a homemade job I’m sure and I think it was not in print very long! I’m glad you were able to get that book and work out Of it with Freddy! I’m curious how far did you get in the book with FRED? Freddy sure turned That book into An encyclopedia didn’t He?! I love the way he applied his techniques and concepts to those simple patterns yes that might’ve been my house you visited with Freddy I don’t think my drum set was on a platform though that usually stood on just the rug and the room was the front room front bedroom facing west what is your name I’m sure I’ll remember you if I can get your name?! Anyway thanks for remembering tha! those were great Days, the early 80s studying with Freddy weren’t they?! What a fertile time of studying that was!
@shvetes
@shvetes 2 жыл бұрын
@Neal Sausen Hi Neal! My name is Dean Mostrom. Yes! I remember that the room with the drums had west-facing windows! You know, unfortunately I was only with Freddie for about six months all together. So I only scratched the surface of what he was trying to teach me. I don’t remember working out of the rock book. Mostly I worked out of Bass Drum Control, and the Buddy Rich book, with Freddie. Yes, that was a great time, in the early 80s. I first met Freddie at a place in Studio City called Mulberry Street, where Buddy played a trio gig with Roger Kellaway on piano. I soon after went to his house near Gelsons supermarket on Reseda Blvd. for my first lesson. It was inspiration from that point on! Thanks again Neal for everything!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
@@shvetes : Hello Dean, thanks for your message yes I remember Mulberry Street it was off of Ventura Boulevard and Laurel Canyon I think it was on Ventura Place ( The B R Gig was in the early 80s I think like around 1982 if I’m not mistaken) you know I remember that Buddy Rich gig it was UN-announced I think you had to be invited or know about it or something and no one told me about it I was so pissed when I heard about it a few days later my other friend Les De Merle was at that gig (some friend right?!) he only told me about it like five days later lol was that the one where Roger had to tell Buddy to “ dial it back” a little bit because he was too let’s just say “ A little too enthusiastic/High energy”? Lol! In fact les Did a gig at Mulberry Street with his own group a small group around the same time and he borrowed my drum set for the gig his drum set was on the road with Harry James or something and he needed a drum set for this one nighter so he borrowed my drums for the Mulberry Street gig! Those are some great times though wish I could go back there again! Yes of course the Colin Bailey book And the Buddy book two Staples of Freddie’s teaching! Tell me though, did you go through the Roy Burns/Lew Malin Finger control book with him?! That and the rhythmic patterns Book Were / Are the core books as I recall!!! yeah Mulberry Street well that brings back some Great memories Well, stay in touch Dean are you still in the San Fernando Valley I’m in Akron Ohio right now but I’d like to get back to LA sometime stay in touch take care! Neal
@shvetes
@shvetes 2 жыл бұрын
@Neal Sausen Yes, you’re talking about that same Mulberry Street Club on Ventura Place where I saw Buddy with Roger Kellaway and Chuck Berghofer! Wow! I saw Nick Ceroli and Freddie in the audience! Actually Neal, Freddie didn’t ask me to get the Burnes/Malin book, but he did have me get the Cusatis Rhythmic Patterns book. I remember Freddie showing me how the hands and arms are positioned over the drums when going from drum to drum. Fascinating stuff! I still have that Cusatis book in great condition! I live with my mom now in Napa Valley. It’s just us two in our apartment. But I grew up in the SFV …. graduated from Van Nuys Junior High and Van Nuys High. I’m a driving instructor now, helping teens get their drivers license 😊 Thanks for telling me about the great memories, Neal! If you ever come to Napa, let me know!
@TheKoderius
@TheKoderius 2 жыл бұрын
The best explanation on YT by far! Many thanks!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Ranger1216
@Ranger1216 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of Joe M. In this solo as well.
@Ranger1216
@Ranger1216 2 жыл бұрын
Great left hand and great ideas! Thanks
@Ranger1216
@Ranger1216 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, so relaxed….and enjoyable to watch and practice!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
: Thank you Vincent I appreciate the Encouraging words!
@Ranger1216
@Ranger1216 2 жыл бұрын
;great visual helping finger push pull. Thanks…..
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
FIANCHETTO
@Vansud
@Vansud 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful lessons Neal. Is it possible for to add closeup lights/cameras so everyone can see your hands work even more clearly?!
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your vote of confidence Greg unfortunately due to financial restrictions this is really a fly by wire production if you even want to call it that it’s just done with a cell phone and we were In a music school practice room Someday When I Iget some financial backing I get more financially stable myself I will do a better production job Kudos to my close friend Mike Dubin who did the videoing of this lesson if you want to call it that
@unclerhombus
@unclerhombus 2 жыл бұрын
Quite impressive, I must say. Nice playing.
@nealsausen4651
@nealsausen4651 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jason! I appreciate that coming from you!👍🏻