Yes to delete a ortho4xp just delete the tile folder you made.

@@DrishalMAC2 thanks

I keep all regions active :)

I got some issues with just one airport for some reason

I posted the log onto your discord 😊

Ok I will take a look :)

It depends really. Personally I still use ortho4xp tiles for areas I fly to often just because the quality is generally higher. Ortho4xp is still useful especially for when airports come with a custom mesh file and so you can use the provided patch to implement that custom mesh into ortho4xp tiles. That being said, if autoortho is working well for you then you can just use that on its own :)

To me it doesn't make any sense to use ortho4xp. You can always increase your autoortho cache. The tiles will stay in your cache until it gets full and I'm assuming when it gets full it will start deleting the oldest used tiles to make room for the needed ones. If you go to your home folder you'll see a directory called .autoortho-data and inside you'll see the cache folder inside you'll see all the jpegs that were needed when you flew.

It's really personal preference. I personally still use ortho4xp for areas I fly to regularly as its higher quality and no reliance on an Internet connection. It also means I can use custom mesh patch files for airports with a custom mesh.

What is your base fps without lossless scaling? As I mentioned in the video you need at the very minimum 25 - 30 for this to really work well

Yes absolutely! Msfs2020 does look amazing and definitely better than X-Plane, but sometimes X-Plane can really look amazing. Paired with a great flight model and system simulation it's really amazing :)

Hello, I believe at the moment openSAM might be broken with the latest X-Plane upside as i have also been having issues. Further testing is required but for now I would wait a little bit. OpenSAM normally gets updated relatively quickly. If the issues are not caused by open sam I will let you know how I fixed it :)

Aha thanks a lot! EGNX is my local :)

Did you at any point have the lossless scaling app open in the foreground. Make sure that once lossless scaling is running you don't click on it and bring it to the foreground otherwise your recording will just have lossless scaling. The correct procedure is to open lossless scaling and minimise it. Then re-enable the game capture in OBS. Now you can hit the keybind to start lossless scaling on msfs and then you can hit record. If you continue to have issues let me know. :)

@@DrishalMAC2 Great, thanks!!

Can you send me a screenshot of the livery folder on discord? I can provide support there :)

Yes

@@DrishalMAC2 thanks its working amazing in my sim!!!!

Amazing!

Can you send me a screenshot of this via discord?

@@DrishalMAC2 Sure a thing I think I just sended you the friend request im chingocaravanex.

Hey, any chance you can send it again? I have not received anything :)

@@DrishalMAC2 Mhh strange.

@@DrishalMAC2 Can you send me one? my user is chingocaravanex

Yes this is normal, the EOX servers are down. Just ignore the error and use the bing map override and you should be good :)

Yes I agree. I will say the airliner flight model is slightly nice but landing is still extremely floaty on all of them. The GA flight model was atrocious though as I showed. I do hope it gets Improved but for now I cannot recommend upgrading at all. Even dismissing the flight model, a lot of the satellite imagery and autogen is the same it seems, a large airport like LTFM still is not in the sim so obviously their database is still the same as 2020. And the graphics improvements are nice but very minimal, not worth an upgrade fee at all. Let's see how it progresses though...

@@DrishalMAC2 how would you compare the airliner flight model to say something like the zibo toliss or FF777?

Definitely worse than those. In the air it's not too bad but landing is just incredibly floaty. That being said I have only tried default aircraft so maybe some of the payware ones will be better once they take full advantage of the new system.

@ will be interesting to see. I just feel like this is a bit of a cash grab from microsoft.

Yes I sort of feel the same. I don't think we needed a new simulator. Msfs2020 was in a good state and not outdated at all. We only just got some nice addons like the fbw a380 and pmdg777.

Fantastic! I am glad you enjoy it :)

55 knots is for short field. 65 knots is approach speed. I fly this aircraft irl, trust me it was too floaty :)

Yes, I'm sure it will improve but let's see...

Yep. This is the problem with everything being server based. Hopefully it gets better

@@DrishalMAC2 Does it even still allow manual cache for the ortho data to be able to have ortho offline

I think it does, but until i try the sim properly I cannot tell :)

@@DrishalMAC2 I ended up asking for a refund , I might buy it again on sale further down but the live service aspect of it is really concerning I do not want an internet outage to kill my game completely.

Yes I am definitely concerned about the cloud streaming aspect. I seriously hope this gets sorted quickly. I think making so much of this sim server based was a mistake.

Hey, could you send me a screenshot of the issue on discord?

Any chance you could send me a screenshot either via discord or email so I can better understand the issue?

​@@DrishalMAC2Nevermind I actually figured it out, just a misunderstanding, but thanks!

Ah glad you got it sorted :)

It very much depends on your system and preferences. If you have plenty of storage space and have the time then ortho4xp will provide better quality imagery. However I'd you are low on storage space and have a decent interest connection then autoortho will work very well too. You can use both together which is what I do. I generate regular ortho4xp tiles for areas with airports and where I fly regularly. Then use autoortho for everything imbetween :)

autoortho will take ages to unzip the scenery you have to download. To give an idea australia is the smallest size download it will take more than 5 hours to unzip but in the end it will give access to orthos everywere in the globe where ortho4xp will fill your drive before you download the whole globe.

Bare in mind this time varies. It only took 1 hour for me for aus. That being said it can take longer but as you day you then have orthos for the whole area. :)

@@DrishalMAC2 You a better pc than me, I'm on i5 with 24Ram and 4GB nvidia but it also depends on the write speed of your USB drive.

Yes that is very true :) I was using a nvme m.2 which is quite fast

Hey, we will always continue to improve things , we welcome feedback , The soundpack is only $11 and offers 4 engine types so it's great value But we will improve it over time once we can gather more samples

@ I wanted to support and just bought the A330 sound pack and have to retract any negativity I portrayed in previous comment. Love the quality and immersion. Keep working and recording sounds. Get some jet roar on the flybys and they will be perfect. Thank you for the good work.

Glad you are enjoying it :) all your feedback was passed on to Mango, including this comment :)

Absolutely! A great livery!

How severe are the artifacts? I get some around the windows too but they are quite minor for me and I can ignore them. I presume you are using X2 mode?

@@DrishalMAC2 Quite severe. Yes X2

How stable is your fps?

@@DrishalMAC2 Its also stable with only minor jumps. I really dont know what to do.

What are your pc specs?

Yes the install is quite complex however it is completely different now. Personally I have moved back to AutoOrtho and that's what I am recommending at the moment :)

@@DrishalMAC2thanks for the honest answer. AutoOrtho installation is even more complex. I simply want to fly in the sim and not become a computer freak who is moving files in directories. Hope Laminar Research will become more active again and face the competition with MS. Cheers!

I see what you mean. Unfortunately I do not think we will get ortho streaming natively in XP12 due to licensing. MSFS is lucky to have access to Bing maps for this. If you ever need help installing AutoOrtho then I am more than happy to :)

Nope, mesh should always be right at the bottom :)

@@DrishalMAC2 Thank you again - airport mesh included should be at the bottom ?

Yes included airport mesh should be at the bottom :)

@@DrishalMAC2 much obliged, sir.

Yes the Rotate MD-11 is available for XP11 too :)

@DrishalMAC2 thanks and finally is it expensive add on ? Like toliss ? İs it worth ?

It's a great addon! I really recommend it :) I believe it is slightly cheaper than the Toliss products

What's not helpful about the video? I'm always open to feedback but so far it seems like it's been very helpful to lots of people. As I said, would be open to feedback

Haha that's most likely not me, I don't even know what ERLC is :)

@@DrishalMAC2 oh ok erlc is a Roblox rp game

Since making this video I have revertes back to autoortho due to getting better quality and performance. Maybe I can help fix the issue you have with autoortho?

Just so I understand, you want to use lossless scaling on the video captured at 25 fps to make it approximately 60fps and then recapture the new 60fps footage in obs?

@ exactly! I have a capture card that records 25fps and I can i use with apps like obs to capture it. But I am confused about where and how to use Lossless. Should I use it in the obs itself? Orr any suggestions?

This method will not work. Lossless scaling should he applied to the game or simulator you are playing. But if your capture card is only 25fps then it won't be picked up. My recommendation is to use lossless scaling as normal for the game or simulator then use OBS to record the footage rather than a capture card. :)

Hello, this is still technically the passenger version, just using a cargo livery. The actual cargo version is not out yet :)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean?

@DrishalMAC2 so I want the water from xPlane and it is photo scenery water that is being shown not the default xplane water

Ah ok I see. I think this is an issue with map enhancement. I have moved to autoortho as I get much better results. It may be worth switching :)

Yep that seems to work now. When I originally made this video that didn't work. Glad nvidia changed it :)

I am sorry, I am not familiar with the install for mac, although I presume it is quite similar.

Ok thats fine, ill figure it out. Thanks!

3d grass is part of the custom scenery. Many payware and some freeware sceneries will have 3d grass :)

No worries :) enjoy!

Not within the AO app no. You might be able to do this via an external app though?

I'm not sure what you mean?