put Bennett on this team instead of Kuki it would be so much stronger

Hey man, i’m back just to say i cleared with Dehya team like yours 🫡

Tks man for dehya 🤔 i’m still looking for a decent team with Dehya

Ah, while I did made up my mind to skip Chino because of the wretched Bond life reliance, this team has made me reconsider

Wrong rotation bro. Keep in mind that using her burst removes the BoL. it should be E SKILL > set up other character > CA > normal attack, use burst if needed to heal. hope this helps you

Great video !

I also used Dehya, top side in a burgeon Curry team! Worked really well! 🤩

whats with the video quality? cant see anything

W clear, was boutta go through it with my yoimiya team then i realized i needed to plunge :O

tl;dr - She's lackluster and a bad (NOT useless) character with still inherently bad with BIG kit design flaws, but she has definitely improved. She's a subpar and flawed Support (nothing wrong with being flawed) with clear weaknesses but is VERY cheap to build similar to Gorou. Her skill damage is so awful that Golden Troupe is non-viable on her. Her Pyro application on Skill works for Burgeon (not GREAT at it) and her Burst is too fast for Burgeon. An off-field character can still be a main DPS or at least a significant contributor to team damage. She's actually pretty neat in co-op IMO. A character's (lack of) strength doesn't mean they're unusable, it just means you could get better mileage spending your resources on someone else instead. She has improved, but she's still by far one of the worst characters in terms of meta. Again, play whoever you want. I've spent a lot of time messing around with Dehya and there are points that I can understand and some that I agree with to an extent, and she has definitely improved since her release but she's still pretty lackluster and underwhelming, even with the improvements characters have brought. And in a game with a vast cast and more to come, it isn't unreasonable for a character to be deemed good or bad. I can clear Abyss 36* with Aloy, does that make Aloy a great character? Another player can't beat Abyss with Alhaitham, does that make Alhaitham bad? Character strength can be carried (or brought down) by investment, so play whoever you want. You like Dehya? Awesome! But liking a character and 36* Abyss doesn't make them a good character in an instant. I actually somewhat like her as a support even though I still have so much issues with her skill alone. I absolutely agree that she is a support first and treating her as a dps first is just setting yourself up for disappointment. In terms of synergy, at least on paper, she does pair decently with characters that rely on not being interrupted (Charged-Shot characters, Neuvilette, Yoimiya, etc.) and unlike shielders she has potentially unlimited stagger resist during the duration of her A1 passive. What's iffy about her supporting capabilities is that what she offers is inconsistent and can be quite uncomfortable. Unlimited Poise disappears after A1 is gone and that has a cooldown that basically prevents abusing Sac Greatsword. And you'd have to ensure that your team doesn't move out of the safety circle, has enough health/healing to just facetank everything, and also ensure that the circle is placed down in an area where there won't be much hassle/need to relocate. Of course if you use Dehya with these factors in mind, then the payoff can be well worth it (I used Dehya to tank the Hydro Tulpa in Abyss and leveling Furina as her E doesn't self-inflict Pyro and the Tulpa doesn't move around too much apart from when it repositions itself and she has worked in my experimental off-stream Abyss clears.) And Dehya reducing the damage the team takes has direct anti-synergy with Furina, the one who should've played the role of the Hydro Archon who would definitely save Dehya. Dehya is better underwater than she is with other party members. Honestly, I think Dehya is BEST USED in Co-op as a pure HP% support, as her energy issues are somewhat alleviated there and her skill doesn't have any self-app that could backfire on teammates and having no Burst isn't an issue since other characters are doing the damage anyway. I heavily disagree with using Golden Troupe (if I misheard you and you said DON'T use Golden Troupe, my fault), even more so as a Support set since if you're building her with support stats in mind, her skill is going to do hilariously little damage that you're better off with 4-pc Tenacity (a set she quite easily procs), Instructor or 4-pc Deepwood in Dendro-heavy teams instead. Heck grab 4-pc Noblesse and just insta swap-out of her burst if you don't have access to Tenacity. A character being off-field =/= a main DPS is not true, at the very least they can still play a BIG role in the team's damage output. Looking purely at damage, Xiangling, Xingqiu, Fischl, Beidou, Venti, etc. can all offer an insane amount of damage and in some cases become the main DPS themselves. In Childe national teams, Childe himself isn't doing a massive amount of damage, he's enabling Xiangling to do absolutely ridiculous amounts of damage, and I believe it's the same case if you swap him out with Ayato instead. The Talent values and elemental applications do matter in determining whether a character's damage is bad or not and, as much as I hate saying this, Dehya's E values are quite lackluster, especially at C0. Imagine if Venti's Burst only swirled a total of four times, or if Yae's E did the same amount of damage as Xinyan's E's ticks. Dehya's E procs quite slowly and doesn't even hit hard, making its best use in Burgeon-based teams (where you could 100% just use Thoma instead). Her Burst has been complained about so much that I don't think I need to delve into it as I assume you know this as well, but her Burst undeniably carries a large amount of her own personal damage. If you play DPS Dehya, there's a good chance you're running Emblem or a Burst-set instead of Golden Troupe or something. Just be careful not to get Frozen (and no, not jumping does NOT help. Just getting Frozen alone can already cancel your Burst.) If you're playing Burgeon (unironically the team I'd say she has the best chance of doing the most damage in without factoring others party members), then sure sucks that her application is slower than it needs to be and using her Burst makes her apply Pyro too fast instead. If you're playing Mono Pyro, then I'd say she's a pretty neat option honestly though again her damage will definitely lag behind others. Tier lists and meta talk shouldn't be treated as "If you use low-tier, you're dumb because they're unusable lol" at all. I force Eula into EVERY SINGLE ABYSS even versus the worms, Dorito and PMA. Why? Because I like Eula. Because I've invested a LOT into her. She's not the best character in the game and frankly other DPS do a better job at dishing out damage than her, but I still clear the Abyss with her. Doesn't make her SSS+ Top Tier in general, but she's who I adore. Putting her with Shenhe, Raiden and Zhongli might make other players pull their hair out seeing those three not being used in better teams, but it's my account and I play the way I want. But would I recommend a player to build their Eula before, say, their Neuvilette, Xiangling, or Kazuha? Absolutely not. I wouldn't recommend people to build their Dehya first either. At the end of the day, it's a single-player heavy game. Play with who you want, clear what you want however you want, but do not treat critical feedback as some offense, lie, or a sign saying that they're useless. Everyone has their uses even if somewhat outdated. Dehya has flaws and there are things about her kit that I absolutely HATE, but she's not useless. Aloy is an absolute meme of a character, but she can still be used in quickswaps and a quick cryo generator (and if nothing else, meat hunter.)

you can run the same team with a thoma dps and still get the same result dehya is bad at both defense and offense. if i want a defensive option in my hyperbloom team with that c3 furina i would just get noelle. she would have more fanfare resulting to more dps, and noelle is a fking free 4 star man this video is pure cope.

Long story short for everyone : Dehya was bad, now is ok. Not because she got better, but because Furina was released. Ty for listening

I really want to have access to his secret copium stash. Still playing her in every party where other characters can compensate for her... ahem, underwhelming performance😅

Rise up Dehya mains! She is underrated as heck. She's okay at C0 and good at C1.

i hope i will get c2 dehya in next pity and next next pity. Otherwise c0 dehya is unplayable. Really love the character but damage multiplier is too low.

Super excited for natlan I definitely caught the cultural influence from those names Also that was a fire voice over ngl

I've checked out the comments from your last video: You've handled conversations really well against those trying to refute your findings (one of them tried to plaster the Copious antic on me too). The hard-working dedication you have done for Dehya in your showcases is something I gratefully appreciate. I personally love using her with Barbara and Kaeya Melt/Vape teams, and currently working on timing Cloud Retainer and Beidou's kit with her for the sake of fun. Oh and I observed we have opposite preferences; I hate using Kuki but I'm interested in Mona😂

I wish i could see how many dislikes this has, the ratio is probably wild.

I did a quick look at the comments and as usual a lot of people come off as very out of touch as to where Dehya falls in the overall meta especially since they seem very pre-release framed and not in the context of some Fontaine characters that synergize with her defensive properties or Furina that gives her more team archetype availability if you do play her as a DPS -- and I see her Burst DPS build as something similar to Noelle where you are trading carry damage for a durable on fielder and driving off field damage (this is how I used her post-Furina although I have been distracted by plunge teams lately). I think, whether or not you believe she was intended to be or not, her being standard character is exactly where her measure of a character is: Not as good as limited options often times (much like other standard characters) but not useless either and can still fill useful roles in teams. She does want to be on teams with healers but she also gives extra padding if your healer is either Shinobu or Bennett (both characters that do not have the opportunity cost of being healers due to how much damage they provide) or even in some extreme cases your only healer is Neuvillette.

I build my dehya in unique way that I use for exploring and it's called immortal build it's basically cannot die in dragonspine nor against any enemies or even bosses that don't one shot you (I test it with chicken dendro boss 😅 forgot the boss name) and I enjoy it. BTW I use the bell for dehya and it's best f2p weapon for her. She gave hp scaling and also it give you shield, what the hell more you want.

as someone who really likes her design and story , i have to say , yes she does what no one does , but she's not good at it , for whatever reason , kekhoyo hyped her for months , then disappointed everyone ..

Damn, a couple people here in the comments are treating you saying "Dehya is good" like a personal attack to themselves. Regardless of people who don't know what they're talking about, I agree with this video and your opinion. Dehya has found a few good places among astonishing teams. I find her status as one of the few defensive pyro units a great one, not for what her baseline damage is, but from what her defensive capabilities offer. Also, one of my favorite things to do with Dehya is use her as a shield-breaker against Abyss Heralds. ICD of course takes place (one chip per three hits, and one final chip from her Incineration Drive). People are quick to dismiss her because they've never investigated the hidden details of ICD, Elemental Gauge Theory, and Poise. I wish people did. And then they'd know why I find her fascinating. She is deeply involved in hoyo's hidden mechanics without many people realizing it. Hell, it's also what people seem to forget about Eula. She has her own IR that makes her pretty unstoppable. But I guess when you have a shield bot like Zhongli, you tend to forget about how to actually play a game.

at the end of the day you can make any support in the game 4* or 5* still deal more dmg than her

She is okay, but her weapon is one of my favorite weapon in genshin.

Dehya is NOT a good character. Theorycrafters have been doomposting her before and after her release and Dehya mains also agree. The only good thing about her banner is her signature weapon which works better on other characters. You pretty much need cracked units like Kazuha, Bennet, (Mona), Furina, and others to make her just as good as other B or C-tier Main DPS. The only thing she excels at is exploring hazardous areas and Fontaine's underwater sections. Besides that, she's really bad.

First off you said that she is a sub-dps depending on how much dmg you think a sub-dps should do which doesn't really make sense. Shouldn't there be a parameter of what counts as sub-dps rather then anyone's individual opinion? Secondly you mentioned that dehya is unique which is mostly false. The only new thing she does do is absorb dmg the on-field char would have taken onto herself. The other 2 things she does that can be considered support are interruption resist and follow-up dmg. You know who else gives those two things, xingqui, beidou, thoma and even xinyan depending on cons. Even the one unique thing she has isn't that great because unlike an actual shielder or healer you can't get away with having just dehya if you can't avoid taking dmg in abyss. So you will end up bringing a healer/shielder anyways to keep the party alive. Also notice how some of the chars who also do the 2 things dehya does are much better received because of the simple fact that they actually do sub-dps dmg and in other cases like xinyan, are not well received because they don't really excel at anything they do to be worth investing over other chars. Just because you can get by fine with a char and enjoy them doesn't mean they can't also be a terribly designed char. You showed in the video that you understand that she's not the best char and she can't do dmg like hu tao etc, but why can't you accept that she's easily top 5 worst chars in the game if not the worst.

Im just salty she one of the few characters i invested in her weapon even though all she needs is c2 to fulfill her role

I really hate that stupid worm.

Dehya is not a support, she is nothing. She's not a good sup, not a good dps. The fact that you play her and somehow make her wackily "work" don't make her good. I'm a main Dehya since day 1, I have her C1R1 and I love playing her, but I'm not deluded, she is indeed the worst 5* in the game and even worst that most of the 4*. Accept the reality man, why do you have to pretend she's good ? Can't you enjoy bad things ? There's only one team to my knowledge where Dehya is good, it's as an E bot with Neuvillette.

My xiangling dehya monopyro is great My dehya doing 34k c0

dehya furina bennett and mona helped me 36 star the abyss for the first time! she's so good idk why people hates her. her design is defo the best!

Bluntly adding "Dehya was Never at all Bad", a phrase that would be framed as copious blasphemy. I make it no secret that I hold a negative view towards certain types of genshin players that, even waay before the Flame-Mane debut, pretended to be All-knowing of the game that they would go around doom-posting of how bad the character is without fundamentally learning the exact mechanics (attack spammers...) then repeat the cycle despite proven wrong. Now with Dehya, I would say Hoyo is 40% at fault for taking an extremely long time to release her as a playable Allogene, that allowed audiences to imagine huuge expectations of her being a Meta DPS despite several hints in the story of her being a Support. As u can imagine, this opened doors for spiteful blasting while making sure their pride was intact. The disregard for her strengths were unbelievable despite how easy and fun she is to understand. I personally have Dehya at C0 yet she is one of my best units ever due to sheer versatility of her kit alone (one of a very few times I praise Hoyo) because it actually depends on the players' skill instead of DMG spamming. The 'complaints' I have heard are just common flaws that I easily overcame (albeit I solely wish we were given more agency during the Burst). The only character I am willing to agree with the community that is objectively bad so far is Hydro Traveler. Oh and right now the best weapon the Melusine Card-board Sword... Weapon banner is a huge jerk to me😓

Those dehya artifacts are insane!

Dehya is incredible and unique in its mechanics. Her defense method has no analogues, except for another Honka Star Rail game, but not about that. Her imposition of pyro status is rare and you can play with it, because you don't always need frequent pyro on the opponent. Her only problems are the unfortunate 9 seconds of protection, which weakens her role as a support. This causes some discomfort and the presence of C2 only increases its duration, but not protection, because it lasts 9 seconds with a basic skill state of 12. If you like a character, then you can't argue with a person, but for those who got it by accident, the benefit will be minimal, on a par with other standard characters except tignari, and trying to squeeze damage out of it if you're not a fan of it is simply pointless, because the same resources and efforts can be invested in, for example, itto. As a result, the character is a wonderful defender and unique and useful in mechanics, but she feels like the character from whom convenience and a distinctive feature have been taken away and because of this she is very specific and replaceable

i mean its not a great clear time but also you can do better by grouping the mechs. go behind them at the start and theyll perfectly group themselves. if you manage to stop them in place, you can save a lot of time on this clear

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dehya furina showcase

I 36 starred Abyss with Dehya as main DPS with Furina, Baizhu, and Bennet. Granted my Furina is top 1% of C6 R5 Furinas, my Baizhu is C2 R1, and my Bennet is C6 for infusions for more burgeon. Still was fun as hell seeing how this is my first time using Dehya since i just got her

shout out to getting dehya and candace in a team together. i haven't been able to find one yet that i like with them both in it.

You should try Navia (im currently using hunters set, haven't tried with her main set yet), Dehya, furina, baizhu. I call it the cherry bomb comp. Typical dehya furina burgeon team but navia fills the time while dehyas burst is down (sometimes i don't even use dehya burst lol). Dehya and furina give navia enough bullets and its so defensive you don't need to worry about dying. Ive been using an EM sands on Dehya recently, mostly because it has great crit rate/dmg and substats ER stats.

Needed for her

Is bennet c6

Is your Navia's E lvl 10?

Like just for Dehya! Shes not good but still love her and seeing people like you make her work! Cant believe you jave Candace too! Going to have to steal that team idea lol

Always nice to see Dehya!

Her E cooldown is too long 🥹

Me having fun with navia, furina, dehya, bennet definitely what i could imagine of how a quickswap team is.

That’s actually a really good VO! Keep it up bro

Thanks for the info, it was really interesting, but a hp sand will work too?