@@tonberry2670 Something something 99% of gamblers quit right before they hit it big.

@gummiwormy5083 Exactly. Even without 2 Hands Are Better Than One, and heck even Dual Wield existing, bows fall off. The good ones late game are just too heavy to even wield in the first place. And the. 2 Hands Are Better Than One is just the final nail in the coffin. You're telling me I can only fit bows that are already outclassed, AND the weapons that outclass them now can get double stats, while bows get nothing? It's a good thing most jobs don't use bows as their highest proficiency. Haha And thank you so much!!! I'm glad you enjoyed it!!! I wanted to try and be informative while also being brief, and I hope I managed to strike a decent balance between the two. I tend to easily get caught in rambles and have to try to reign myself in.

I only mentioned the Freelancer thing in the beginning because I figured people would point out that it's strong with Late Bloomer, so I didn't even think to mention Creature Comforts

@@rathalosdescieux8627 I banned level 12 Beastmaster. I just forgot to mention it

Sorry if there was any confusion. Last time I did a tier list video I was told it was too long, which was a valid criticism. So I tried to talk about everything as fast as I could. But I get Beastmaster and Freelancer to level 11 and don't allow them to even get their specialty 2. So if I main Beastmaster, it's with level 11

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x no problems ^^

@@naskino3983 Thank you, friendo!!!! 😌

@stefan-xaverscherrer7648 My heart skipped a beat when I saw water element pop up twice. Granted, I could have re recorded if it went wrong, but I was really hoping he wouldn't counter me. He had two chances and I dodged a major bullet. Haha.

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x True.^^

@gummiwormy5083 I'm glad to see Gambler love. I want to see what I can do with the job throughout the game. So if I can manage to get more success from Gambler with future fights, I'll be happy to keep showing it off I'm intrigued, though. What do you do with sub Swordmaster on Gambler?

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x oh nothing fancy just using Gambler with Multitask and night shift and 2 specialty to just become a non stop attack machine with solid stance but that extra increase to chance makes it super fun to just spam bosses with, especially if they were weak to bows

@gummiwormy5083 That's fair. Born Lucky plus Lunar Powered and Night Shift is ALOT of luck for Multitask. And I love Swordmaster with Multitask so much.

@naskino3983 I try to anyway!!!! When I try to make Gambler work, though, there's going to be alot of luck involved. Haha

@gummiwormy5083 Thank you!! I really love this strat, and found it to be very fun. Not only can White Mage do huge damage(granted, with buffs), his Meteor does pitiful damage to Shieldmaster with all of the res from special chaining. That and special chaining is just fun

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x oh yeah special chaining is really fun. I definitely need to get better at it lol

@gummiwormy5083 Buffs and debuffs really help alot. With the proper setup, there's alot of fun stuff you can make work!!! But yeah, Swordmaster is really good with the right build. You can get up to 16 hits in one turn by braving out, if multitask procs every time. It turns about an average of 2.5k damage per hit(at least here) into 40k total per turn. To put that into perspective, the damage cap is 9,999. So the most you can deal in a turn, if only using single hit attacks, is close to 40k. Which is pretty much on par with this. I'll probably do more Solid Stance stuff in the future because I really like it. And with Oracle available, I can also deal even more damage with it.

@naskino3983 That's awesome!!!! I'm always happy to see more people doing it, too. This is a very niche game, and level 1 even more so. But the combat is so incredible and really thought out well for low level. And, true. The only hard rule for lv 1 is, well, being lv 1. Otherwise, it's all what people make of it. I have a personal rule of no level 12 Freelancer or Beastmaster because they raise your stats so high that I may as well be doing a normal run. And that's no fun to me. But getting stronger equipment early is fair game for me because you still need to pick your equipment carefully with the weight limit being a thing. Plus, I love the fun of going out of your way to get them. I absolutely love just how many different strategies you can use to beat the game. It's one of the reasons I started making videos. I love being able to show the different ways I find to win. That, and I also hope I can be helpful to anyone who is struggling. I want to spread the love of this game to as many people as I can

Oh, I also have a rule of no level 13-15 job skills until they are supposed to be available in game. Because those skills are far too powerful for most of the game. Haha. I also only use jobs as they are acquired in a normal playthrough

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x wow that's great, I totally agree with you for the 1st part I also banned beastmaster and freelancer lvl 12 ! And just like you I keep the equipment because it's fair. I'm curently watching all your videos to see what strats I missed lol Personally I allowed myself to use lvl 15 jobs and start the game with all jobs (sounds pretty braindead and unbalanced especially at the beginning, and it is but I just don't use "broken" strats, it's a feeling that progresses through the game. It gets hard at the end, that's when I must theorycraft and use everything I can. I might do a 3rd run with jobs locked later tho). My rules are : - Freelancer's and beastmaster's skill 2 are banned - Not allowed to go beyond weight limit - Not allowed to equip/unequip stuffs during battles - Everyone must wear the 0xp gain ring (idk the name in english) - Not allowed to use items in battle (ether, potions etc, and yes that makes salve maker almost unusable) - invincible strats banned (all strats where the ennemy cannot play) - hellblade's skill that allows you to reach 99 999dmg is banned I think that's it ? I'd love to discuss more about it on discord if you're down :)

​@@GloriaNeuMusa10xoh and i don't use the special abilities either

@naskino3983 Sure thing. I don't always message people first, but I will always reply whenever I get the time. My Discord username is glorianeumusa10x as you may have been able to guess. My display name on it is Roselia Gloria(my first and middle name). My pfp is Judith Lanster, if you know what the Trails series is. Haha.

@gummiwormy5083 Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm glad my videos have been helpful. Have fun messing around with some new stuff on your future playthroughs!!!

That actually means so much to me. Thank you so much for the kind words 🥹

It really is!!! I love how synergistic they are.

I actually made a video where I used a Vanguard with Icebrand. Admittedly I had a different party than you, but the idea is similar. Use Vanguard with Icebrand to kill. I'm a very DPS oriented kind of gal. So if I can find a strat to kill the boss as fast as possible, I will go for it. And I lab strats for hours until I get results. Which is what happened with this video. Haha. Black Mage took a lot of labbing to figure out a way to make it work against Folie. It was so worth it, though, and very satisfying to pull off

That's clever! I didn't even think of that. I love seeing the different ways people deal with fights. There are so many different ways to approach fights in this game, so seeing some variety is awesome. It's one of the many reasons I make these videos. I love trying out as many strategies as possible

Poison does work on it, but if you want to do the fight as soon as reaching Wiswald, you'll run into the issue of no Counter Savvy to avoid the counter to Black Mage skills. So you'll have to get extremely lucky to both poison and not get KOd by the counter. That being said, I really liked the idea you presented, so I decided to be a mad person and test out my own variation of your idea. Keep in mind that all I did was test it. I didn't actually do the whole fight. It wasn't the most consistent thing ever, but I used one White Mage with 3 Gamblers. My passives were Spearhead, Attack Item Amp, MP Saver, Unshakeable Will, and Bloody Minded. I threw Bomb Fragments at the Forklings with everyone to kill them. It took 13 of them to kill, so I used the Bomb Fragment 3 times and Bold Gambit once with my Gamblers. I managed to get Bold Gambit off and give 3 BP to everyone before Treant could kill us. Which was obviously a gamble, because if it didn't work out perfectly like that there was no chance. But I only need to rely on it at the start, so it was worth it. Now, the fun part is you don't need to worry about Phoenix downs most of the time, even with Gambler. Because I went all in on the luck factor and used Life or Death. As long as you smart about it, one KO isn't the end. The Phoenix Downs are for if you are in a situation where dying would actually lose the fight. With only Treant left, all I had to do was Life or Death, Raise, Work Your Magic(Or Hurts so bad with the Throwing Axe), and Bold Gambit a bunch while throwing Zeus's Wrath, Dark Drops, and Throwing Axes. If I ran out of MP I could use Gambler special to recover it for everyone. Now, admittedly, I dipped in the middle of the fight because it was taking too long. But in theory, it should work. I don't think I'll go back to beat and record it because it won't make for an interesting video and will be WAAAAAY too long even if I manage to beat it like that. But with all 3 weaknesses accounted for in 99 of each item and 1137 damage per hit, it is possible to deal the damage in only attack items. Not accounting for the turns taken to revive, restore BP, restore MP, and buff, AND not accounting for its own healing with casting Stonega on itself, that's a whole 249 turns of throwing items. You just need to make sure that if someone dies to not waste the items with them. Bold Gambit helps make it more realistic to get at least one person to throw at least 4 attack items while still staying in the positive to revive. That being said, in order to get Dark Drops, you need to steal them from Fungoo in the Wiswald overworld. So that's even more time. Or you could use the same main jobs, sub Black Mage, and just wait for poison to connect, then wait out the posion ticks. Anyway, it's always interesting and fun getting your perspectives because it's different from my DPS mindset. I like seeing how other people decide to beat fights.

Thank you. That means alot! I completely agree that Unshakable Will is a game changer. Especially when there is a weight limit, which actually ends up mattering alot at low level, having to deal with all of the status effects Unshakable Will covers without it would be a nightmare. And yeah, White Mage's specialty 2 makes it so any healing spells can be used on all of your allies, which is incredible and sets it apart from the other healers. Both of White Mage's specialties really help keep it relevant the entire game, even at low level where you need to use buffs to get a good restorative power.

Berserker is probably my second favorite physical job, but I do still love Monk alot and I of course want to use a bunch of different fun strats. I agree that I love Hyper Bracers and Monk for this portion of the game as well. And I love how Bare Knuckle Brawler has some pretty great use for a decent portion of the game, partially because of early Hyper Bracers. Oh yeah. My favorite thing is looking at chest or quest rewards to see if I can get anything early to utilize a job in a way you typically wouldn't because of the shop not selling it yet(or at all). I've been making my own google docs listing all of the chests and quests I want to make sure I do to get early access to certain equipment.

Thank you! That means alot.

I'm guessing you meant Lunar Powered. And yeah, Lunar Powered giving luck should help the odds, to my knowledge. I unfortunately don't know HOW much more consistent the extra luck makes Steal Courage, but it's not a bad option to try for if you don't want to go all in on the restorative power.

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x I meant using both lunar powered and night shift together at night. I believe the chance of steal courage actually working is 50% at base, then 60% with either solar or lunar powered active, and then 80% with both lunar powered and night shift active.

Oh shit, I actually didn't know it got that high with both. That's worth looking into later. I didn't have Gambler at the time I did that fight, but I got Gambler immediately after. So I will have to start using both together and see how I like it.

Yeah, I'm glad you suggested doing the rare monsters. It's going to be fun recording uploading all of the fights. I still love doing different strats for the main bosses, so I have both types of videos still coming. But doing the rare monsters is a nice change of pace

Of course!!! Thanks for watching! I'm always very glad to know that my videos help people!

Yeah, the BP cost is unfortunate. But thankfully anyone doing low level should be able to max their jobs no problem with NG+. It's really nice Sky Slicer works out so well because I love elemental based attacks

@@GloriaNeuMusa10x iirc, if you're already hitting Castor's dagger weakness, you don't actually deal more damage for also hitting his wind weakness

@thanderhop I also believe that is how it works, but the plan from the start was to use Sky Slicer and needed Thief to do so. Haha. I only used Daggers for the proficiency in this instance, and Stab and Grab is incredible for a dagger at this point in the game. Plus, I actually like how cheap Sky Slicer's MP cost is for how good of damage it deals. I don't think it would have ended up mattering in this fight, but I usually prefer a low MP cost to Godspeed's huge MP cost if I can get away with it.

I actually already have a couple of videos already out, but since I have a pre-recorded one ready to go that I like more than my previous strats, I can upload it when I get home later today. Hopefully it will help you out!

Yeah. I love how magic interacts with sleep. It's very fun to take advantage of!

True Grit is actually just as busted as I would hope the best job in the game would be. Haha

I actually am probably going to do another playthrough soon and probably test out different strats. I'll absolutely do all the rare monsters though. It should be fun. I agree that alot of those strats you mentioned make the game alot easier, and I actually kind of want to do some challenges without Shieldmaster to mix things up, but I typically find those alot more fun and satisfying than just using Freelancer or Beastmaster stat buffs. Because at that point, it completely defeats the purpose of low level for me. I think Vanguard is the prefect balance of giving stat increases but not having it be overboard. I constantly try to think about how I'd approach the hall of tribulations fights in a more "normal" way like I do with the main story bosses(excluding Nights Nexus). But yeah, I have also come to the conclusion that they aren't meant to be fought normally. I think considering it's a testing ground for all the absurdly broken skills jobs give you at levels 13-15, I don't mind it that much. After all, basically every job gets cracked skills lv 13-15, so there needs to be something to use those skills on. But yeah, even the one I came up with a strat for that requires a bit more effort was OP. I don't think the fights were made for anything less. Can you do it? Maybe. Will I try some day? Maybe? But it may not be as fun doing them the normal way

How did I think about that for Night's Nexus but not for this fight??? Thanks for letting me know because an extra accessory slot is a massive deal and could net me so much more damage with Minis Strike. I'll have to check and see if I still have my save at this fight and re record