You know your stuff!! 👍👏

@@deputyVH There's genuinely so many electric skateboard models names, honestly it gets confusing after a while! (Even the reviewers are starting to trip over themselves) Check out my Facebook page 'Esk8 News' for recent stories and adjacent news, been doing that for a few years now as a constructive hobby, plus to silence the people that say ''Nothing is new in Esk8, it's all the same.'' People are not paying attention enough, plus social media algorithms can be unreliable at best! Sometimes it's a slow news week, although it's cool following progress on new things like electric inline skates and escooter legalisation.

Having kingpin trucks helped with steering, albeit only on the front. Unfortunately the stock fixed wheel brackets cause wheelbite with larger wheels, so I'm undecided whether to cut them off or just use smaller wheels. I'm used to 70mm skateboard wheels, so smaller ones aren't ideal on bumps... stock ones are 54mm but having kingpin trucks means I can fit 58-65mm ones. Wish these motors were stronger for larger hills and had a wheel lock function, plus front toe stopper too. The rear toe stopper is way too high off the ground, needs ground biting clearance closer to inline skates... Also, the extended front wheelbase from this mod made it impossible to fall forwards due to leverage, feels a bit like ski's. I'm thinking velcro straps might feel more stable too, compared with stretchy silicone ones.

@@esk8jaimes The original design was portable, so it was limited to small wheels, perhaps sacrificing some of the passability. Your model's wheelbase is longer, and it stands to reason that the ankle supports should be moved forward as well to keep the center of gravity right under the footboards, which would be more like skis. Not sure what that feels like, haha. The newest velcro straps are available on our website and have been improved after listening to a lot of user feedback.

Still waiting for these!

Yeah, two different years! 2021 and 22' Will being doing a 2023 livestream recap soon too.

@@esk8jaimes ohhhhh thanks

@@esk8jaimes cool idea

​​@@esk8jaimeslooking forward to seeing the 2023 version. Has felt like an interesting year

Thank you, hopefully this tip stops other people from rounding threads on their electronics screws/bolts!

Thank you!

That's amazing! Are you sure it's this one and not a newer ESC though? This particular ESC is 3-4yrs old... I'm using a generic OLED Hobbywing remote too, so that 5x button press feature might be specifically for WowGo's own remote?

Struggling to find any reference videos about their automatic motor calibration, did find this informative one about their unique remote and motor pole pair settings though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnzEemiMobqSrqcsi=2jB_xGCShYL7J7Xx

@@esk8jaimes DKwan may have done it in a WowGo Knight video a while back, recently there are Meepo Envy and Meepo Flow videos. I cant remember the titles. Meepo Flow Hub reset or somethin. Works with hub or belt drive, some call it self-learning. Been a feature since WowGo Knight came out, a Lycaon video also discussed it.

@@esk8jaimes If the ESC came out any time after the WowGo Knight then it has this feature, cant remember what year that came out but it's a while back now. Lycaon I think the model called Swift came out around the same time or soon after and also had the self learnin. Might be a different activation process on later ESCs. Worth watchin very early WowGo Knight and Lycaon Swift videos, DKwan, Scott Davies videos usually include info about that stuff

@@eBoard3R the WowGo Knight and Lycaon Swift are two years old according to KZbin, but the WowGo 3 predates it by four. Spent an hour trying find videos with that smart learning function, no luck

Usually, it's just a case of removing the retaining hub cap bolts. However, older electric skateboard hub motors were single-use designs and their wheel sleeves couldn't be easily swapped off... for instance, with older Meepo hub motors people had to physically saw off and peel the wheel PU material, just so they could fit larger 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts. (The only option that fits older hub motors) As for taking apart the hub motor to clean it with fine sandpaper and WD40 Contact Cleaner (specifically used for electronics and hub motors) there's usually extra retaining bolts around the hub motor, strong magnets hold it together so pull it hard to separate the hub motor shell from its inner magnets!

If you have the same hub motors as these in my video, then the best advice is to use metal penetrant oil spray, hopefully that will make it easier to push off the motor. Those inner metal wheel sleeve splines can be very difficult; I tried building a wooden jig to hold my hub motor in place and had to push it out of the wheel sleeve using a soft hammer...

I did use bullet to XT30 connector adapters from Meepo to use those older hub motors (single-use, none replaceable 90mm wheel sleeves) My first electric skateboard *Yuneec Ego-2) used I think 5 or 6 pin round plugs on its motors. With charging port connectors, they either plug into the ESC or directly into the small secondary cable on a battery pack.

JST? Not heard that mentioned before

@@esk8jaimes Meepo use JST to connect charging port to a battery, Ownboard used to aswell but a female one, everyone else was using male. Most brands switched to XT30 as it can handle charging faster. JST is 5a max I think. So more basic boards still use JST and the more premium ones XT30 for faster charging etc

Good points. To be honest there's so many variants of Hobbywing ESC's that it's hard to be clear with this stuff. The remote itself doesn't change any of your stock ESC or battery specs as far as I'm aware.

@@esk8jaimes the throttle curve of a 10S remote may not corrolate with that of a 12S board but I'm curious to try it out once I get a new board, risky though 😂

Thank you! Just bear in mind you'll need 2-3 1/2" riser blocks if there's any steep hills on your pump track. Short boards with a 20-22" wheelbase work best.

@@esk8jaimes though there may have been a little riser or two in there. 😉

@@CraigTaylorYT can't be too careful with a deck this wide and 105mm donut wheels. Only get wheelbite when doing sharp turns.

No mud thrown onto my shoes/trousers.

@@esk8jaimesahhhh i see . Good

To guard against mud.

@@CarrotsNotCake more so asking how well that works for em

Same here, tried everything possible and not I avoid this type of hub motor at all costs. Hub cap bolts wise, most tend to be stuck with blue loctight. I use these screw extractor kits for rounded bolt heads on hub motor caps www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403248783018?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=BGG137--QhS&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=Cyce-EXgQ-e&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=FB_MSG

The button itself is sealed, so spray the WD40 (or specialised contact cleaner if you have it) on the button, then press a few times to unstick it.

Its the flattened wet leaves on the ground this time of year. So much dirt and moisture to be released from them, even if you go through a tiny patch, plus the chance of slipping.

Thank you, glad you appreciate it!

@@thelaziestluke exactly, this is why I use a 40v cordless electric leaf blower on paths near me. The one from Swift is great as its nozzle can be separated and fits into my backpack.

@@esk8jaimes haha that would be nice lol

@@esk8jaimes can you do my commuting route too 😂

No, sadly... Originally the hire scheme were meant to end in March this year, but were extended to November. A lot of people keep saying 2023 looks more likely. His comment about January would match up as the Gov would want to get past Xmas before legalising E-scooters I reckon. (I expect it to be the 15mph ones, with larger motor limits)

Aha, I do like to keep it eccentric, yeah! Well currently this board and its deck has cracked down the middle after letting someone over the 120kg limit stand on my board... Tried an equally strange repair but want to ride over 50miles before I can confirm it works!

I'm pretty good, got myself a new board, first time in two years. Yecoo MTS with 105mm donut wheels and 7ah battery. Loving the gradual takeoff torque, makes sense for short boards.

@@esk8jaimes very nice. Been considering a shortboard for some time now just so that I can take it with me on flights. It's a shame that Lycaon fell through the cracks as of late. They were really good couple years ago. I went and got me an ownboard zeus pro.

@@syluxv2398 tell me about it, really frustrating and damaging their brand. Their hobbywing upgrade kit was awesome for older GR models, seemed to be compatible with Teamgee H20/T models too. I'm currently CONVINCED that the ESC used in a Wowgo 3 is compatible with both. Their later 2021 GR uses an extra yellow XT plug on their battery and charging socket goes to this, rather than a HAL connector into the ESC.

@@esk8jaimes as a joke, i was thinking of getting spare ownboard parts for the zeus pro and turning a GR into a sleeper

I bought my replacement sleeves with the five tooth metal core from AEboard, did buy replacement hub motors from Lycaon but instead they sent me new hub motors that are compatible with Meepo and WowGo's knock-off 105mm donut wheels.

Honestly, I really do love their standard hybrid street ones. (Their newer AT/deeper tread patterns look great) but I'm way behind on making more KZbin videos. 70a wears fast as you'd expect but definitely less slipping on wet paths than Cloudwheels. I have a theory I definitely want to test, about using the hairspray motorcycle grip approach to make the stock TeamGee wheel sleeves stick more and not round off on their inner motor spline grooves.

@@esk8jaimes yes, these are probably to heavy & will cause way too much extra street contact friction, as well as insulating heat buildup in my backfire g2 hub motors. Probably best to try something else. I wonder if I can use anything other than hairspray grip, I don’t have hairspray.

I wouldn't say they're that heavy? They are now smaller at 112mm compared to larger 120mm Cloudwheel donuts (which is pretty much the only option for those Teamgee hub motors, other than 103mm rubber wheels from Teamgee) Hub motors are designed to get warm, they can handle it. Used them for months and it didn't once cause my board to give an overheating warning on remote display.

@@esk8jaimes my g2 wheels are 80mm! That’s a huge size and weight increase, for the tiny 36v 10s2p 216Wh battery & 300w motors. I think I need more powerful hub motors, I have many long steep hills, & the G2 motors already started to get too hot, when only testing a tiny fraction of the steepest hills here, granted it was summer. Who makes the best hill climbing hub motors?

@@masaakisakai6546 well when it comes to getting replacement motors for an older model, your main concern should be the motor connections; the older ones usually have three bullet connectors per motor. Once you've confirmed that it helps to narrow down your options. Best hub motor-wise, most do 24mph or 28mph if you've a larger battery/more recent ESC, but hobbywing ones with the replaceable wheel bearings are popular, as older hub motors are genuinely single use. I think Teamgee use 80mm hub motors on their H20 Mini model, might be worth asking if they're compatible?

So with standard 90mm hub motor wheel sleeves, they're all pretty much the same durometer rating/hardness. There is this guy that makes slip-over custom 70a wheel sleeves for standard wheel sizes. (like 90x60mm wheels) www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1039200827/kaneda-street-biters?click_key=1bbe35bc00ddd81bc81a15177e94ff95ded16e85%3A1039200827&click_sum=1f381ccc&ref=shop_home_active_1&crt=1

based on this old advert, seems like the 2017 Backfire G2 uses the same hub motors that TeamGee currently use. You can get larger 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts for this too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6XaXmeFpsqDsM0

Not really, the deck holes are quite snug with the bolts, no wood splintering. Surprisingly, four months later and the metal handle still hasn't snapped. I put some extra thick foam underneath the truck gasket too to stop any metal vibration sounds when going over large bumps or sustained road vibration. (doesn't perfectly fit the curve of a kicktail...)

Congratulations! Do tell us if you get sent one with revised hub motors; these can fit mid-sized 105mm Meepo/WowGo Donut wheels!

cheers.

Yeah, it's a strange one as even longboard bushings were too tall for the kingpin bolt on these... Seems like all bushing listings online lack height specs/measurements. Sadly, Riptide are really difficult when it comes to clarifying the exact bushing height sizes on their website; was asking for weeks!

@@esk8jaimes there's info buried in Riptide's site, can be hard to find. If memory serves, their standard barrels are 15mm high, street is 12.7mm, short street is 10.7mm. Can't remember their Cone heights. Yeah we defo need more brands to be clear about height at the very least. Venom standard tend to be around 15mm high. Tall is 20mm or 17mm, I forget lol.

@@eBoard3R Thank you for that info, very useful to know!

thank you!

At the time, they cost me £91 to the UK, arrived in nine days to the UK from Meepo. Speed-wise, maybe you'll get a 2mph faster top speed with the slightly larger wheels, more noticeable with larger 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts. (Less torque/hill climbing speed with these as a result) Not sure if Meepo are raising the price soon. Wowgo also sell a version in matt black. www.meepoboard.com/collections/motors/products/meepo-105mm-donut-wheel-set

@@esk8jaimes thanks mate, have there been any noticeable difference in the range because of the larger wheel and the softer material?

Previously, the only real wheel option for Verreal's F1 motors was the larger 120mm Cloudwheel donut, although they appear to be selling a new type of hub motor similar to Wowgo and Meepo, hard to confirm as the Verreal website product photos and options are always outdated... (despite feedback too, which is frustrating) So yeah, range-wise I'm so damn happy to have a mid-sized wheel option at last. However, I can't currently test this system as I've just commissioned a custom deck to my specs/weight deck flex needs (was on a previous video, Saltrock longboard) Should be getting this custom deck in a week or two, so happy about it, as I've had this one for twelve years.

@@esk8jaimes sounds sick mate, is it an electric or a normal longboard?

@@willhall1954 It was a 40x9'' longboard with kicktail, very surfboard-style with wood veneer and pinstripes. In hindsight, not really the best of wood, but what did I know when buying a complete for £60 at 16yrs old! #Memories

Agreed!

It really is!

Absolutely!

Not sure how long it would take for this metal to snap, does bend slightly around the deck edge when used. Maybe doubling up on the underneath bracket would help?

@@esk8jaimes must be something similar but more durable

Cheers, appreciate it. Not tested when out riding yet, too much extended sunlight from summer, but I'm keen to see the throw distance compared to generic torches that use 18650 batteries. It seems like the generic ones have a stronger spotlight light compared to these, (at least in the short distance sense) might be down to their fisheye bowl lens in comparison to the flat lens on these SL-1000's.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely understand why people choose belt-drive for softer wheels and gear ratios, but this wheel removal process is beyond silly. Hell, even Meepo Board are discontinuing these types of hub motors with the metal sleeve core and now offer a 105mm Donut wheel upgrade kit for existing riders!

Correct, they've sent you TeamGee H20/older Lycaon GR ones. (saw your post on facebook) Email them back, they'll send replacement correct ones. Did it to me too; sent Cloudwheel Donuts for the older Verreal F1 motors.

Do I need to have the new hub motors on my F1 for these to fit, or are there other options for the older hub motor?

@@Baldoora there's two options for the Verreal F1 on the 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts website listing. - www.icloudwheel.com/collections/donut/products/cloudwheel-donut-120mm-hub-motor-sleeve-urban-all-terrain-off-road-electric-skateboard-wheels

@@Baldoora Alternatively, you can try these slip-over 110mm 70a wheel sleeves from Marlon Loves Wheels? They slip over existing stock street wheels. - www.etsy.com/uk/shop/MarlonLovesWheels

Absolutely! They've been on my two electric skateboards for months. (Verreal F1, Lycaon GR) Unfortunately, with older hubs motors you can only fit the larger 120mm Cloudwheel Donuts; leads to reduced braking distances/less hill climbing torque/battery range loss as your motors are working harder. Significantly softer on road vibration and tactile flagstones though, but main downside is they're very slippery in wet riding conditions, and not at all for off-road